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Message Subject shadow demon/sleep paralysis?
Poster Handle Chris Hansen
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if u dont have fear u dont see the shadow men and demons. if u are not scared u will see nothing or happy dreams in front of you like butterflies unicorns and... Jesus and Angels... people think its real tho sadly. people usually have fear because they wake up and suddenly they cant move a muscle

and the darkness is associated with ghosts, so when u are dreaming that makes u see shadow men
 Quoting: Chris Hansen

Ok I don't think you understand the significance of this being a WORLDWIDE phenomenon? Have you had the chance to travel yet?
I have lived in 25 different countries with many distinctly different cultures. People from certain countries have no exposure to any images that would be reflected as hat man or the old hag. Yet people see it.
Its fine to explain it away as Christians either seeing angels or demons, but what about atheist cultures that experience it? Or pagan or buddhist cultures? I don't think its a as simple as 'people see demons when they're scared and angels when they're not'. Because peoples descriptions of the demons and angels would differ greatly.

Also the majority of people i talk to have some kind of idea about how a demon or the devil would look. Gargoyles and goatees and pitch forks and shit. Nothing about a shadow in a london fog jacket and fedora.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32549987

trust me it is just a dream, if u concentrate u can change the shadow man into something else. some people also see the girl from the ring. no one knows why most people see a shadow man and/or demons. they are just associated with fear by default i guess.

i have had 1 OBE and a couple lucid dreams, all by using sleep paralysis
 Quoting: Chris Hansen

If it's just dreams then you didnt actually have an out of body experience right? You just dreamt that you did but you imagined it? I'm just going by your logic here...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32549987

No, think of it as a tunnel. the tunnel has 2 exits, when in sleep paralysis u are in the tunnel, u have 2 exits to choose, one leads to a full lucid dream (inside your head) the other takes you out of your body literally (outside your head)

also when u are dreaming/lucid dreaming u are actually using your astral body, which allows u to change your lucid dream into an astral projection/obe
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