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On The Record Interview with Sharon Burton Sandy Hook Teacher Survivor blows timeline out of the water

 
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Me, I always wait about 15 or 20 minutes to dial 9-11 when I hear multiple gunshots fired inside a school.

Don't you?
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Can someone please capture this.. real player wont download it from this source and I cant find it on faux news..

Sharon Burton says the shooting went on for 20 -25 mins.. this means the shooter MUST of got inside before 9.30am locking of doors..

Official statement from State Police says first 911 call came in at 9.30am... so shooter must of entered the building around 9.15 at least..

Is this why they never showed the door?

Is this why so many things are wrong with this story.. this video wont last long...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31744715


She also said someone "tried the door." Wonder who that was...

Does 911 normally put callers "on hold"? I've never ever heard of that before. Why didn't anyone pull the fire alarm...just to get the neighbourhood, fire station, etc. to realize that something was wrong at the school.


Also odd the janitor has never been heard from. MSM usually LOVES hailing the heroes in stories like this. I also don't buy that he would have made sure all of the doors were locked and then just stand in the hallway???? He would have made sure the doors were locked, and then gone into the last classroom he checked. I have to call BS on this janitor aspect of the story.
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What if he thought it was just a drill and ignored it. One kid in an interview says they were doing a drill.

I was in a office building fire once, and I actually had to really convince my officemates to leave because we were too used to false alarms.
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A shooting drill? Are they not told of these in advance? No alarm was going off so what would make him think it was a drill? Do they normally have gunshots, crying and screaming over the intercoms during drills? I have no idea because I've never witnessed one, and we don't have those kinds of drills here...as far as I know. I've done lockdown drills, but they've never involved any of that.
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Maybe they were doing a shooting drill of some sort...because there is an interview where a kid says they were having a drill (like this was normal). I also read a recent article about a highschool somewhere a bunch of stundents were really freaked out by gunmen opening "fire" (It ends up being blanks or something) and stuff, only to find out "it was a drill" (they weren't told about it beforehand)...so I don't know what kind of drills people are doing these days, that's why I'm wondering.
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If the janitor locked the door from the outside how did the teacher open it. We need more facts but sounds like another hole to work with.
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Supposedly all the teachers except one had keys to their own classrooms.
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That's what's been reported. The only one who did not have keys was Rousseau, the permanent new substitute...so new in fact, didn't she start teaching there just that day? I could be wrong on that...
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She also said someone "tried the door." Wonder who that was...

Does 911 normally put callers "on hold"? I've never ever heard of that before. Why didn't anyone pull the fire alarm...just to get the neighbourhood, fire station, etc. to realize that something was wrong at the school.


Also odd the janitor has never been heard from. MSM usually LOVES hailing the heroes in stories like this. I also don't buy that he would have made sure all of the doors were locked and then just stand in the hallway???? He would have made sure the doors were locked, and then gone into the last classroom he checked. I have to call BS on this janitor aspect of the story.
 Quoting: Zuzu's Petals


What if he thought it was just a drill and ignored it. One kid in an interview says they were doing a drill.

I was in a office building fire once, and I actually had to really convince my officemates to leave because we were too used to false alarms.
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A shooting drill? Are they not told of these in advance? No alarm was going off so what would make him think it was a drill? Do they normally have gunshots, crying and screaming over the intercoms during drills? I have no idea because I've never witnessed one, and we don't have those kinds of drills here...as far as I know. I've done lockdown drills, but they've never involved any of that.
 Quoting: Zuzu's Petals


Maybe they were doing a shooting drill of some sort...because there is an interview where a kid says they were having a drill (like this was normal). I also read a recent article about a highschool somewhere a bunch of stundents were really freaked out by gunmen opening "fire" (It ends up being blanks or something) and stuff, only to find out "it was a drill" (they weren't told about it beforehand)...so I don't know what kind of drills people are doing these days, that's why I'm wondering.
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Wow. Glad drills haven't come to that here. Who knows at this point, anything's possible, and a lot of what they've reported...isn't. imo
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Is it just me, or does this woman actually seem to portray real emotion? This must be the only genuine looking interview I've seen so far.
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That is exactly how I felt. She is trying to keep it together for the interview, but the emotion spills over nonetheless...

For instance, in the Clackamas shooting (and this was a little sad)...the mall Santa was being interviewed and was really freaked out but quickly realized he had to get back into character (as "Santa Claus") -- realizing that kids could be watching the show and wanted to be reassuring as "Santa". That was real emotion because it was emotionally complex emotion and on the spot. No actor could pull it off.
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I think the official story was mostly true on the Oregon shooting, but the part they kinda covered up was that an armed citizen stepped up and stopped it. It was pretty obvious that's what happened, before it was officially reported. You could just tell because there were only 2 victims in a mall with 10k people in it.
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if the teachers had a key to all the locks, why did the custodian have to lock them in a room when the teachers have a key to do that and why did the woman say someone jiggled the door and moments later the teacher opened it, not unlocked it.

why did this supervisor teacher not know or have a key to rush everyone to safety behind a locked door classroom. instead the janitor did that and stood guard outside the door,

i know i would be out a there if i heard guns going off
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Omg...the way she described this it MUST have beenhandguns
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Is anybody else starting to think this "custodian" is a fed plant in the school, or is it just me?
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Among other serious anomalies in the "custodians" past, the guy was a serious sexual deviant, according to the dark websites and facebook sites that he frequented and "liked". Likely a pedophile too. They don't want people being reminded of his name too often, they might start digging.
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Someone had the theory that the janitor was in on it. He was the one that turned off the lights at one point and let two of the real shooters in the back door.
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Is anybody else starting to think this "custodian" is a fed plant in the school, or is it just me?
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He did lock them in the rooms. Very brave indeed. There is something very strange about this entire event. But i am so fatigued by these events I have not put the effort in to really study it like I did for 911.

Even if your sure that it is a conspiracy and can logically prove it, no one wants to listen. You end up making yourself "persona non gratis" where ever you go. I did it with 911 and the evidence there is overwhelming. Anyone with the ability to be honest with themselves, are of average IQ and wants to know the truth can. THE PROBLEM IS PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN DENIAL ESPECIALLY NOW WHEN LIFE IS VERY FRIGHTENING IN GENERAL, LIKE IT IS NOW.

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sheeple love to be lied to. it feels better than the truth they are sheeples.
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5 years from now, most of the witnesses and actors will have mysteriously died.
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I guess if all the people are locked in their rooms but the 2 selected classes then that cuts down on interference and witnesses to what was happening.
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Dumbasses on here would call their own brothers and sisters actors after they discuss a fight they had with their siblings the next day
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It was the handywork of one F. LeDeaux of Petite St Pierre, France. She and her team of certain stateless individuals mastermind and execute intricate plans to create chaos. They do this not to any strategic end, but just for the pleasure of reading the bullshit like this thread and the complete fools who will buy any conspiracy theory!
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That's what's been reported. The only one who did not have keys was Rousseau, the permanent new substitute...so new in fact, didn't she start teaching there just that day? I could be wrong on that...
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Odd that a substitute would not be given keys to the classroom. Back when I was a substitute teacher, you;d go to the office, get the keys and the lesson plan(s), and away you go. Simple as could be.

Even odder is that Rousseau, the ONE person who doesn't have keys to her room, is also the ONE person whose car is miraculously shot up in the parking lot.

A little too odd, me thinks.
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At 2:18 in the video, there is a person that looks like a reporter leaning against the police car. looks a lot like Lauren Rousseau's step father who works for a local paper.There is also pics on line of this as well.

was never mentioned he was on the scene.
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Is it just me, or does this woman actually seem to portray real emotion? This must be the only genuine looking interview I've seen so far.
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That is exactly how I felt. She is trying to keep it together for the interview, but the emotion spills over nonetheless...

For instance, in the Clackamas shooting (and this was a little sad)...the mall Santa was being interviewed and was really freaked out but quickly realized he had to get back into character (as "Santa Claus") -- realizing that kids could be watching the show and wanted to be reassuring as "Santa". That was real emotion because it was emotionally complex emotion and on the spot. No actor could pull it off.
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I think the official story was mostly true on the Oregon shooting, but the part they kinda covered up was that an armed citizen stepped up and stopped it. It was pretty obvious that's what happened, before it was officially reported. You could just tell because there were only 2 victims in a mall with 10k people in it.
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Yes...you are right. I also think something terrible happened because the shooter's friends all thought he was a nice guy. And in the mall he went around saying "I am the shooter", as if someone programmed him. I have a bad feeling he was drugged, on bad pharmaceutical medication or manipulated.
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Wow. I just have a bad feeling people are being silenced in Sandy Hook. Told to be quiet or something.

I wonder, because here you have the school janitor who seems to actually be a real hero in all this -- getting teachers in classrooms and being in the hallway despite gunfire...really putting himself on the line in case others need his help. Whereas the media has made the "big hero" out to be Gene Rosen, who frankly, doesn't have enough sense to call the police either when he hears what he thinks is a hunter by the school or when children who witnessed a shooting arrive on his doorstep. Why the distraction away from the school?
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You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment on it.
However, it is good to note that once upon a time the janitor had a comment on his facebook by someone who said.
"Wow, Kevin, it's a good thing you were on vacation that day". More or less. Kevin Anzellotti and his wife are
both into drama. One year he played Oz as a Gigantic floating head. His wife makes costumes.
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Wow. I just have a bad feeling people are being silenced in Sandy Hook. Told to be quiet or something.

I wonder, because here you have the school janitor who seems to actually be a real hero in all this -- getting teachers in classrooms and being in the hallway despite gunfire...really putting himself on the line in case others need his help. Whereas the media has made the "big hero" out to be Gene Rosen, who frankly, doesn't have enough sense to call the police either when he hears what he thinks is a hunter by the school or when children who witnessed a shooting arrive on his doorstep. Why the distraction away from the school?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31862440


You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment on it.
However, it is good to note that once upon a time the janitor had a comment on his facebook by someone who said.
"Wow, Kevin, it's a good thing you were on vacation that day". More or less. Kevin Anzellotti and his wife are
both into drama. One year he played Oz as a Gigantic floating head. His wife makes costumes.
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(...it's hard to convey a sense of subtle sarcasm over the internet...and I'm sort of an idiot when it comes to the art of the emoticon.)

but...

Oh, my! How interesting. So many people with an interest in the theater in that community!
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Very interesting interview because she gives something away that I am already aware of from my child's school. The school classroom doors lock from the OUTSIDE ONLY. Someone would have to lock the door from the outside of the class, like a custodian. This points out a serious flaw in the other story about Ms. Rousseau whom, they reported, didn't have a key.....tragically. Ms. Rousseau could have only used the key to lock the door from outside, which would have put her in the hallway.
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gee I wonder who has the largest active psychological warfare operations program on the planet. the "actors" in the sandy give em the hook drama are some mighty ugly cusses physically and spiritually, with chops that are only slightly less embarrassing than a dog licking its balls in front of your mom

so yea it was u.s. military personnel putting on the show that day in newtown. pig/Military.
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gee I wonder who has the largest active psychological warfare operations program on the planet. the "actors" in the sandy give em the hook drama are some mighty ugly cusses physically and spiritually, with chops that are only slightly less embarrassing than a dog licking its balls in front of your mom

so yea it was u.s. military personnel putting on the show that day in newtown. pig/Military.
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If the janitor locked the door from the outside how did the teacher open it. We need more facts but sounds like another hole to work with.
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exactly. she also said the custodian was outside the door and they were yelling at him as he identified himself.

So he locked them in, a teacher from inside unlocked the door who we are told had no key cause the custodian had the only key, someone jiggled the door but had no key to unlock it and the woman shook her head no to her trainer or supervisor not to open the door.

LISTEN TO THIS BS
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I am so confused because others have now said he wasn't there that day.
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That's what's been reported. The only one who did not have keys was Rousseau, the permanent new substitute...so new in fact, didn't she start teaching there just that day? I could be wrong on that...
 Quoting: Zuzu's Petals


Odd that a substitute would not be given keys to the classroom. Back when I was a substitute teacher, you;d go to the office, get the keys and the lesson plan(s), and away you go. Simple as could be.

Even odder is that Rousseau, the ONE person who doesn't have keys to her room, is also the ONE person whose car is miraculously shot up in the parking lot.

A little too odd, me thinks.
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I also find it odd that they sent Rousseau's car back to Canada. Is it not evidence?
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One thing that's always puzzled me is Lanza (allegedly) banging on the one classroom door and saying "Let me in, let me in!" As someone else pointed out, if he had already shot his way into the school, why not just shoot his way through this door...

Well, if you subscribe to the multiple-shooters and Lanza being the patsy theory, what if he was taken to the school (as some other thread suggested) thinking he was taking part in a drill, then realized it was a "live" event... Could it be possible Lanza saw what was happening and was begging to be let into a classroom because once he realized what was really going down, he was in fear for his own life?

I know that's really reaching, but so far not one iota of the whole incident makes any sense whatsoever, and the above doesn't sound any more far-fetched than some of the other scenarios I've read... Comments?
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That's what's been reported. The only one who did not have keys was Rousseau, the permanent new substitute...so new in fact, didn't she start teaching there just that day? I could be wrong on that...
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Odd that a substitute would not be given keys to the classroom. Back when I was a substitute teacher, you;d go to the office, get the keys and the lesson plan(s), and away you go. Simple as could be.

Even odder is that Rousseau, the ONE person who doesn't have keys to her room, is also the ONE person whose car is miraculously shot up in the parking lot.

A little too odd, me thinks.
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I used to sub occasionally in East TN, and yes, subs were given the keys to the door, the teacher's desk and any locked supply cabinets in the classroom when you checked in upon arrival at the school.

Also, people have asked about doors being locked from the outside- in my experience, the doors could be locked from the inside without a key. I know of no school system where the classroom doors could only be unlocked from the outside- such a mechanism would violate fire/safety code. I think the janitor was only making sure the classroom doors were locked, and wouldn't have been able to literally lock the room to where someone inside couldn't unlock it...
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