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GOVERNMENT SAYS VIOLATING FAITH 'NO BURDEN'

 
Indysmindy

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01/19/2013 02:07 PM

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Argues religious exemptions don't apply to abortion pill mandate


Attorneys for the Obama administration have explained to a federal appeals court that ordering company owners to violate their faith by paying for abortion pills does not amount to a significant “burden” at all.

The opinion comes from Stuart R. Delery, John F. Walsh, Beth C. Brinkmann, Mark B. Stern and Alisa B. Klein, all of whom are attorneys listed on the arguments submitted to the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in a case brought by the Newland family and their company, Hercules Industries, against Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, the pro-abortion former governor of Kansas.

A district judge ordered that the new abortifacient mandate in Obamacare, which requires employers to pay for abortifacients for employees, not be applied against Hercules pending the resolution of the dispute, which also has been raised in dozens of other court cases.

At issue is the Obamacare promotion of abortion services, such as the morning-after pill. Obamacare demands that employers provide that coverage to workers, regardless of the religious beliefs of company owners.

While business owners argue the government cannot simply order them to violate their faith, the government says it can.


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“The contraceptive-coverage requirement does not impose a substantial burden on any exercise of religious by Hercules Industries or the Newlands,” the government attorneys told the appeals court.

“It is common ground that a religious organization can engage in the exercise of religion, and other federal statutes grant religious organizations the prerogative to discriminate on the basis of religion in the terms and conditions of employment. But Hercules Industries is not a religious organization. It is a for-profit employer that manufactures HVAC equipment.

“Thus, Hercules Industries’ plan must afford the company’s employees and their family members the employee benefits required by law,” the attorneys said.

But what about companies where the owners have established and run their company based on their own biblical beliefs?

Too bad, the federal attorneys said.

“The personal religious beliefs of the corporation’s officers and controlling shareholders, the Newlands, cannot provide a basis for the Hercules Industries plan,” they wrote.

The federal attorneys explained that the Obamacare mandate does not require the Newlands to do anything, but rather requires their corporation to act.

“They do not have to use or buy contraceptives for themselves or anyone else,” the attorneys said.

But their corporation does, they explain.
**The first step to salvation is to realize that we are all sinners:
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Indysmindy (OP)

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01/19/2013 02:12 PM

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Interesting how Obama once said he was a Christian. He is truly evil.

What upsets m the most is how is Islamic religion is exempt from Obamacare and Christian religion isn't?
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Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Indysmindy (OP)

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01/19/2013 02:13 PM

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I'm so sick and tired of Obama!

Last Edited by Indysmindy on 01/19/2013 02:16 PM
**The first step to salvation is to realize that we are all sinners:
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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Laws almost always create unanticipated consequences. This is certainly likely to be the case when politicians bend over backwards to accommodate the currents of political correctness.

ObamaCare uses the Social Security language of the Internal Revenue Code to determine who is eligible for “religious conscience” objection to the insurance mandate. Specifically, the law provides exemptions for adherents of “recognized religious sects” that are “conscientiously opposed” to accepting benefits from any insurance, public or private.

As a consequence of this provision, Muslims may claim a religious exemption that is denied Christians and Jews. Since Islam believes insurance is haraam (forbidden) and likens insurance to gambling, the religion is excluded from requirements, mandates, or penalties set forth in the bill. Others who fall into this category are the Amish, American Indians, and Christian Scientists. Although the U.S. Constitution grants all Americans equal protection of the law, some Americans are more equal than others.




This is freakin terrible!!!!!!
**The first step to salvation is to realize that we are all sinners:
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Anti Vortex

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01/19/2013 02:16 PM

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Maybe the companies can just offer childcare, raises for family size, and extended maternity leave instead? The main reason working women abort is because they can't afford another kid or don't think they can take off time from work to raise it without their work suffering. Not sure government should be involved in this one...the companies just need to get off their arses and truly SUPPORT the women and baby making so that the abortion pills are not needed.
Indysmindy (OP)

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01/19/2013 02:20 PM

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Maybe the companies can just offer childcare, raises for family size, and extended maternity leave instead? The main reason working women abort is because they can't afford another kid or don't think they can take off time from work to raise it without their work suffering. Not sure government should be involved in this one...the companies just need to get off their arses and truly SUPPORT the women and baby making so that the abortion pills are not needed.
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You know, the thing is if a person works at a company that has Christain values, that person accepting that job is accepting their values (or they can go elsewhere to work).

Yes, that would be great to support childcare and extended maternity leave that will support the working woman. The thing is... they are forcing this on company's that are trying to keep their beliefs and values.

Last Edited by Indysmindy on 01/19/2013 02:25 PM
**The first step to salvation is to realize that we are all sinners:
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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01/19/2013 02:31 PM

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**The first step to salvation is to realize that we are all sinners:
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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**The first step to salvation is to realize that we are all sinners:
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Indysmindy (OP)

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01/20/2013 02:15 AM

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Hola????? No comments?
**The first step to salvation is to realize that we are all sinners:
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

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