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Since there's no way to enforce it, what's the real idea behind the gun ban?
Let's put ourselves in their shoes. The average citizen isn't worth anything unless they don't accept government aid.

If they take in government aid they become just a number. However, if said person doesn't rely on the government and only gives the government his/her taxes and "be done with it" then that's the person the government is likely fearful of. He has no longing attachment or requirement to help said government. Like the Army, how they pay you little and put a lot of rules and restrictions on any additional income you may receive while you are in.

So, we got millions of americans who are poor or low income. The normal people/category of people likely to cause a ruckus. Yet we are talking about gun control here.

Is the government about to do some sort of legislation that removes the government aid to these people?

Is the government about to do something to these people?

Is the government about to forget about these people?

I believe so.
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Our free will is nearly begotten.
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Let's put ourselves in their shoes. The average citizen isn't worth anything unless they don't accept government aid.

If they take in government aid they become just a number. However, if said person doesn't rely on the government and only gives the government his/her taxes and "be done with it" then that's the person the government is likely fearful of. He has no longing attachment or requirement to help said government. Like the Army, how they pay you little and put a lot of rules and restrictions on any additional income you may receive while you are in.

So, we got millions of americans who are poor or low income. The normal people/category of people likely to cause a ruckus. Yet we are talking about gun control here.

Is the government about to do some sort of legislation that removes the government aid to these people?

Is the government about to do something to these people?

Is the government about to forget about these people?

I believe so.
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So there are these rallies going on,How much you want to bet, a government placed cell will start a shooting during one or a few of these rallies to make it seem like they are actually trully crazy and to ban all guns?
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Let's put ourselves in their shoes. The average citizen isn't worth anything unless they don't accept government aid.

If they take in government aid they become just a number. However, if said person doesn't rely on the government and only gives the government his/her taxes and "be done with it" then that's the person the government is likely fearful of. He has no longing attachment or requirement to help said government. Like the Army, how they pay you little and put a lot of rules and restrictions on any additional income you may receive while you are in.

So, we got millions of americans who are poor or low income. The normal people/category of people likely to cause a ruckus. Yet we are talking about gun control here.

Is the government about to do some sort of legislation that removes the government aid to these people?

Is the government about to do something to these people?

Is the government about to forget about these people?

I believe so.
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So there are these rallies going on,How much you want to bet, a government placed cell will start a shooting during one or a few of these rallies to make it seem like they are actually trully crazy and to ban all guns?
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Nah, it'd have to be something a lot more massive. Maybe after these rallies pick up some heat. A lot more followers. It'd have to be a one shot deal. It's alot easier for them to keep everyone's morality meter in check with just "1 or 2" things being done.

Last Edited by Natures Wrath on 01/19/2013 06:08 PM
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Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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Let's put ourselves in their shoes. The average citizen isn't worth anything unless they don't accept government aid.

If they take in government aid they become just a number. However, if said person doesn't rely on the government and only gives the government his/her taxes and "be done with it" then that's the person the government is likely fearful of. He has no longing attachment or requirement to help said government. Like the Army, how they pay you little and put a lot of rules and restrictions on any additional income you may receive while you are in.

So, we got millions of americans who are poor or low income. The normal people/category of people likely to cause a ruckus. Yet we are talking about gun control here.

Is the government about to do some sort of legislation that removes the government aid to these people?

Is the government about to do something to these people?

Is the government about to forget about these people?

I believe so.
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There's a number of possibilities; (pick one or more or none of them)

An economic collapse is coming, and social unrest or outright chaos along with it when the government aid checks stop. The elite will need time to get to their bunkers
LIKELIHOOD: OBVIOUS but timing uncertain

Hillary & Obama have worked a deal to give China vast tax-payer owned lands, many with oil deposits when the US defaults on its debt in a few months. China has already told the US to get the guns because they know what the US people will do to them when they try to claim the land. He has to attempt a gun grab to appease the Chinese until he can go hide somewhere.
LIKELIHOOD: SPECULATIVE but a number of indications of truth (he IS giving them the oil wells and China DID tell him to disarm us and Hillary is just a sneaky little bitch))

Right after being reselected Obama told the US delegation to vote YES on the UN Arms Treaty that he had lied about by promising it would not affect gun owners' 2nd Amendment rights. It does, and will go in to effect late this spring. Hence the rushed attempt to grab the guns before the UN sends their troops in, as provided for in the treaty.
LIKELIHOOD: ALL TRUE but may be other factors behind ban at this particular time

Obama has an undeniable global-Marxist background and Putin told him to get the guns so the United States can finished being transformed into the Commie one world government. He feels the time has been made right to give it another try, even if it results in rebellion in which case the Russians/Chinese/UN troops with 2 billion rounds of ammo will be turned loose on the American population.
LIKELIHOOD: HIGH

The shit is about to hit the fan for Obama and he'd rather not be tried for treason and this is a scare tactic to make people back off.
LIKELIHOOD: WE CAN ONLY HOPE

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reducing the statistic that america has twenty times the firearm casualties per capita than anywhere else in the industrialised world?


they have been showing queues of americans lining up around the block for hours in their holidays to turn in their guns , and the laws haven't even come in yet.

polls show , for the first time, a majority of americans in favour of gun control.


it is up to the citizens to remove unwanted weapons from the public arena,
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1: economy collapse, when $50 suddenly isn't enough for a loaf of bread
2: natural disaster, when communication is down there will be no control
most likely 3: one world government, pave a friendly environment to welcome our new islamic and african neighbors
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Hey Aussie....Why don't you go and suck off a well hung Abbo aND PISS OFF....
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Fags and nitwits getting to vent.
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when the people find out what they have done .. they want to save themselves from the angry mob
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I was only posting honest ideas and theories in my OP. No harm or thoughts were intended.
My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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Re: Since there's no way to enforce it, what's the real idea behind the gun ban?
reducing the statistic that america has twenty times the firearm casualties per capita than anywhere else in the industrialised world?


they have been showing queues of americans lining up around the block for hours in their holidays to turn in their guns , and the laws haven't even come in yet.

polls show , for the first time, a majority of americans in favour of gun control.


it is up to the citizens to remove unwanted weapons from the public arena,
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Even if true, yours is a false statistic. Of course a nation will millions of guns and gun liberty will have higher firearm casualties than the hordes of Socialist nations where firearm ownership is banned. Many of those nations have dictators or oligarchies too, so shall we strive to be more like them?

The lines you saw were of people waiting to get into gun shows to buy more guns.

Only Marxist-stream Media-skewed polls show what you are claiming.

I like however the poll that shows that the U.S. National Rifle Association is more favorable than President B.O.

It would be a sad day indeed if the majority of Amerikans decided to throw away their U.S. Constitution, which is what you are advocating there Aussie.

Oh, by the way, if you haven't discovered it yet, gun-control is really about rights usurpations, and doesn't stop with guns. You as an Australian subject can't even own a sling-shot now, haha, because your Nanny State gov't thinks you will either shoot your eye out with it, or will overthrow your Socialist Plutocracy with it, lol.

So who would even want such human rights violations that you have been brainwashed to accept and love?

No thanks, Aussie.
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reducing the statistic that america has twenty times the firearm casualties per capita than anywhere else in the industrialised world?


they have been showing queues of americans lining up around the block for hours in their holidays to turn in their guns , and the laws haven't even come in yet.

polls show , for the first time, a majority of americans in favour of gun control.


it is up to the citizens to remove unwanted weapons from the public arena,
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Or...they are seeing it as a way to make income. They get cash vouchers when they turn their guns in.

Times are tough.

Last Edited by Natures Wrath on 01/19/2013 08:03 PM
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Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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It's probably not as sinister or well planned as all that. People look at things like school shootings and want to stop them. Instead of trying to find the people at risk for such things, the tangible idea of the gun is targeted for removal.

The idea of taking the weapons is an old one and, despite what you might have heard, works. More or less. That's in the historical record.

There is also a tendency for people to take guns from those they fear. Tyrants and bullies fear those that have the means to fight back...

There doesn't have to be a deeper meaning however. It doesn't even have to be 100% effective. If 80% of the weapons are turned in over a ten year time span, the rest of the weapons will be harder to get as far as the criminals are concerned. It isn't an instant fix, but it will happen, as no new ones go on the market.

Or at least that;s the most likely thinking behind the attempt.

Now as far as results go? It adds a whole new host of charges to keep people in prison. Plus, some people will have to give up their weapons even though they don't really want to, and since many of them are naturally afraid or angry individuals, that;s all to the good, right?
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People look at things like school shootings and want to stop them. Instead of trying to find the people at risk for such things, the tangible idea of the gun is targeted for removal.

There doesn't have to be a deeper meaning however. It doesn't even have to be 100% effective. If 80% of the weapons are turned in over a ten year time span, the rest of the weapons will be harder to get as far as the criminals are concerned. It isn't an instant fix, but it will happen, as no new ones go on the market.
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Surely they know their own guns wouldn't be used in a school shooting....

Last Edited by Natures Wrath on 01/19/2013 08:04 PM
My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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It's probably not as sinister or well planned as all that. People look at things like school shootings and want to stop them. Instead of trying to find the people at risk for such things, the tangible idea of the gun is targeted for removal.

The idea of taking the weapons is an old one and, despite what you might have heard, works. More or less. That's in the historical record.

There is also a tendency for people to take guns from those they fear. Tyrants and bullies fear those that have the means to fight back...

There doesn't have to be a deeper meaning however. It doesn't even have to be 100% effective. If 80% of the weapons are turned in over a ten year time span, the rest of the weapons will be harder to get as far as the criminals are concerned. It isn't an instant fix, but it will happen, as no new ones go on the market.

Or at least that;s the most likely thinking behind the attempt.

Now as far as results go? It adds a whole new host of charges to keep people in prison. Plus, some people will have to give up their weapons even though they don't really want to, and since many of them are naturally afraid or angry individuals, that;s all to the good, right?
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But history shows that the U.K. has more violent crime than any EU nation, and it's had serious gun control for over a decade now.

And when the IRA were blowing things up with b0mbs and M0lotov Cocktails, those items were already banned. But it did not stop the violence.

The U.K. has become so violent a place over the years that the Bobbies have had to arm themselves. And some are carrying around sub-machine guns theses days, despite their strict gun-control laws.

The best gift a nation can give criminals is to disarm their victims.
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There's a number of possibilities; (pick one or more or none of them)

An economic collapse is coming, and social unrest or outright chaos along with it when the government aid checks stop. The elite will need time to get to their bunkers
LIKELIHOOD: OBVIOUS but timing uncertain

Hillary & Obama have worked a deal to give China vast tax-payer owned lands, many with oil deposits when the US defaults on its debt in a few months. China has already told the US to get the guns because they know what the US people will do to them when they try to claim the land. He has to attempt a gun grab to appease the Chinese until he can go hide somewhere.
LIKELIHOOD: SPECULATIVE but a number of indications of truth (he IS giving them the oil wells and China DID tell him to disarm us and Hillary is just a sneaky little bitch))

Right after being reselected Obama told the US delegation to vote YES on the UN Arms Treaty that he had lied about by promising it would not affect gun owners' 2nd Amendment rights. It does, and will go in to effect late this spring. Hence the rushed attempt to grab the guns before the UN sends their troops in, as provided for in the treaty.
LIKELIHOOD: ALL TRUE but may be other factors behind ban at this particular time

Obama has an undeniable global-Marxist background and Putin told him to get the guns so the United States can finished being transformed into the Commie one world government. He feels the time has been made right to give it another try, even if it results in rebellion in which case the Russians/Chinese/UN troops with 2 billion rounds of ammo will be turned loose on the American population.
LIKELIHOOD: HIGH

The shit is about to hit the fan for Obama and he'd rather not be tried for treason and this is a scare tactic to make people back off.
LIKELIHOOD: WE CAN ONLY HOPE
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


Hey Ralph, Good job on your analysis. I think you are on the mark. What we may see is a collapse in the bond market meaning US Treasury bills. When that happens, the US debt becomes unserviceable and interest rates go to the moon. The people who are dependent on the government for their daily subsistence will be cut off and rioting will ensue

That is why agencies like Social Security have been ordering ammo.

It's not a pretty picture so to be forewarned and get prepared is the best plan.
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Sure a good way to recruit snitches.

You know TRAITORS and the like..
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reducing the statistic that america has twenty times the firearm casualties per capita than anywhere else in the industrialised world?


they have been showing queues of americans lining up around the block for hours in their holidays to turn in their guns , and the laws haven't even come in yet.

polls show , for the first time, a majority of americans in favour of gun control.


it is up to the citizens to remove unwanted weapons from the public arena,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32603590


When you subtract the number of inner city negro-committed gun-related crimes in the US, our remaining gun-related crime rate is equal to that of Belgium.

Why aren't you posting to Belgians about their unacceptable crime statistics?
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Let's put ourselves in their shoes. The average citizen isn't worth anything unless they don't accept government aid.

If they take in government aid they become just a number. However, if said person doesn't rely on the government and only gives the government his/her taxes and "be done with it" then that's the person the government is likely fearful of. He has no longing attachment or requirement to help said government. Like the Army, how they pay you little and put a lot of rules and restrictions on any additional income you may receive while you are in.

So, we got millions of americans who are poor or low income. The normal people/category of people likely to cause a ruckus. Yet we are talking about gun control here.

Is the government about to do some sort of legislation that removes the government aid to these people?

Is the government about to do something to these people?

Is the government about to forget about these people?

I believe so.
 Quoting: CE Aero


So there are these rallies going on,How much you want to bet, a government placed cell will start a shooting during one or a few of these rallies to make it seem like they are actually trully crazy and to ban all guns?
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How about those accidental discharges at several different gun shows ive been reading about? Its all probably idiot coincidence but makes u wonder ya know? kinda makes me hesitant to go (aside from having to wait the long lines and real possiblity of no ammo).
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There's a number of possibilities; (pick one or more or none of them)

An economic collapse is coming, and social unrest or outright chaos along with it when the government aid checks stop. The elite will need time to get to their bunkers
LIKELIHOOD: OBVIOUS but timing uncertain

Hillary & Obama have worked a deal to give China vast tax-payer owned lands, many with oil deposits when the US defaults on its debt in a few months. China has already told the US to get the guns because they know what the US people will do to them when they try to claim the land. He has to attempt a gun grab to appease the Chinese until he can go hide somewhere.
LIKELIHOOD: SPECULATIVE but a number of indications of truth (he IS giving them the oil wells and China DID tell him to disarm us and Hillary is just a sneaky little bitch))

Right after being reselected Obama told the US delegation to vote YES on the UN Arms Treaty that he had lied about by promising it would not affect gun owners' 2nd Amendment rights. It does, and will go in to effect late this spring. Hence the rushed attempt to grab the guns before the UN sends their troops in, as provided for in the treaty.
LIKELIHOOD: ALL TRUE but may be other factors behind ban at this particular time

Obama has an undeniable global-Marxist background and Putin told him to get the guns so the United States can finished being transformed into the Commie one world government. He feels the time has been made right to give it another try, even if it results in rebellion in which case the Russians/Chinese/UN troops with 2 billion rounds of ammo will be turned loose on the American population.
LIKELIHOOD: HIGH

The shit is about to hit the fan for Obama and he'd rather not be tried for treason and this is a scare tactic to make people back off.
LIKELIHOOD: WE CAN ONLY HOPE
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


Hey Ralph, Good job on your analysis. I think you are on the mark. What we may see is a collapse in the bond market meaning US Treasury bills. When that happens, the US debt becomes unserviceable and interest rates go to the moon. The people who are dependent on the government for their daily subsistence will be cut off and rioting will ensue

That is why agencies like Social Security have been ordering ammo.

It's not a pretty picture so to be forewarned and get prepared is the best plan.
 Quoting: Nikola Tesla


Not entirely on or off the mark. Who who what would be the "Social Security" that needs guns and ammo? The individual offices? Few and far between.
My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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LOL. Maybe they only have little control, but what do you think the endless media campaign is for? The government don't need to enforce it, they just get people to turn against people. How many mindless sheeple will resort to violence against non-violent gun owners because they've been brainwashed to think all gun owners are insane and shooter crazy? Eventually gun owners will be so demonized that they barely have to do a thing.

YES. PARANOID MUCH?
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There's a number of possibilities; (pick one or more or none of them)

An economic collapse is coming, and social unrest or outright chaos along with it when the government aid checks stop. The elite will need time to get to their bunkers
LIKELIHOOD: OBVIOUS but timing uncertain

Hillary & Obama have worked a deal to give China vast tax-payer owned lands, many with oil deposits when the US defaults on its debt in a few months. China has already told the US to get the guns because they know what the US people will do to them when they try to claim the land. He has to attempt a gun grab to appease the Chinese until he can go hide somewhere.
LIKELIHOOD: SPECULATIVE but a number of indications of truth (he IS giving them the oil wells and China DID tell him to disarm us and Hillary is just a sneaky little bitch))

Right after being reselected Obama told the US delegation to vote YES on the UN Arms Treaty that he had lied about by promising it would not affect gun owners' 2nd Amendment rights. It does, and will go in to effect late this spring. Hence the rushed attempt to grab the guns before the UN sends their troops in, as provided for in the treaty.
LIKELIHOOD: ALL TRUE but may be other factors behind ban at this particular time

Obama has an undeniable global-Marxist background and Putin told him to get the guns so the United States can finished being transformed into the Commie one world government. He feels the time has been made right to give it another try, even if it results in rebellion in which case the Russians/Chinese/UN troops with 2 billion rounds of ammo will be turned loose on the American population.
LIKELIHOOD: HIGH

The shit is about to hit the fan for Obama and he'd rather not be tried for treason and this is a scare tactic to make people back off.
LIKELIHOOD: WE CAN ONLY HOPE
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^^ this ^^ it is logical.
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Let's put ourselves in their shoes. The average citizen isn't worth anything unless they don't accept government aid.

If they take in government aid they become just a number. However, if said person doesn't rely on the government and only gives the government his/her taxes and "be done with it" then that's the person the government is likely fearful of. He has no longing attachment or requirement to help said government. Like the Army, how they pay you little and put a lot of rules and restrictions on any additional income you may receive while you are in.

So, we got millions of americans who are poor or low income. The normal people/category of people likely to cause a ruckus. Yet we are talking about gun control here.

Is the government about to do some sort of legislation that removes the government aid to these people?

Is the government about to do something to these people?

Is the government about to forget about these people?

I believe so.
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There is a term for these types of people who rely on the Government for literally everything they have. I did not create the term but have seen it used in print many times. "Useless Eaters".
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Re: Since there's no way to enforce it, what's the real idea behind the gun ban?
They know we wont let them have our guns.

Look at all the misdemeanors that have been bumped up to felonies over the last couple of years.
Ever wonder why?
Its a simple answer.
Either you plea bargain and take a misdemeanor ... meaning you PAY their communist fine's .. court costs ect.
That generates LOTS of money to like their pockets with.


They are not going to "take" our guns away. They are going to make it a felony to own or posses one.
Once your a felon, you lose ALL your rights.
Not to mention the fact you will likely go to prison.
The prison system generates BIG money.

They dont want your guns... they want your freedoms.

This would turn every law abiding, hard working citizen a dangerous FELON if get caught with a gun.
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Re: Since there's no way to enforce it, what's the real idea behind the gun ban?
There's a number of possibilities; (pick one or more or none of them)

An economic collapse is coming, and social unrest or outright chaos along with it when the government aid checks stop. The elite will need time to get to their bunkers
LIKELIHOOD: OBVIOUS but timing uncertain

Hillary & Obama have worked a deal to give China vast tax-payer owned lands, many with oil deposits when the US defaults on its debt in a few months. China has already told the US to get the guns because they know what the US people will do to them when they try to claim the land. He has to attempt a gun grab to appease the Chinese until he can go hide somewhere.
LIKELIHOOD: SPECULATIVE but a number of indications of truth (he IS giving them the oil wells and China DID tell him to disarm us and Hillary is just a sneaky little bitch))

Right after being reselected Obama told the US delegation to vote YES on the UN Arms Treaty that he had lied about by promising it would not affect gun owners' 2nd Amendment rights. It does, and will go in to effect late this spring. Hence the rushed attempt to grab the guns before the UN sends their troops in, as provided for in the treaty.
LIKELIHOOD: ALL TRUE but may be other factors behind ban at this particular time

Obama has an undeniable global-Marxist background and Putin told him to get the guns so the United States can finished being transformed into the Commie one world government. He feels the time has been made right to give it another try, even if it results in rebellion in which case the Russians/Chinese/UN troops with 2 billion rounds of ammo will be turned loose on the American population.
LIKELIHOOD: HIGH

The shit is about to hit the fan for Obama and he'd rather not be tried for treason and this is a scare tactic to make people back off.
LIKELIHOOD: WE CAN ONLY HOPE
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So, in other words, the only thing standing betwen TPTB and the full implementation of the NWO is the American gun owner? That's what I've been saying for some time now.
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Re: Since there's no way to enforce it, what's the real idea behind the gun ban?
People look at things like school shootings and want to stop them. Instead of trying to find the people at risk for such things, the tangible idea of the gun is targeted for removal.

There doesn't have to be a deeper meaning however. It doesn't even have to be 100% effective. If 80% of the weapons are turned in over a ten year time span, the rest of the weapons will be harder to get as far as the criminals are concerned. It isn't an instant fix, but it will happen, as no new ones go on the market.
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Surely they know their own guns wouldn't be used in a school shooting....
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Naturally. what they don't know is that your weapons won't be used in something like that. You know that you're a trustworthy and sensible person, but to many people that don't own guns, those that do often come off as belligerent and insane.

Look at the responses here for instance.

When the topic comes up, the response is often a call for violence or something of that nature. not a write in campaign, or putting about, in a peaceful manner, the reasons why guns should not be outlawed.

Such reactions likely make the thoughts that those that want guns aren't always reliable or good people even stronger.
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Re: Since there's no way to enforce it, what's the real idea behind the gun ban?
This is the best explaination I have found....

can someone please embed this?

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This is the best explaination I have found....

can someone please embed this?

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My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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This is the best explaination I have found....

can someone please embed this?

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Ty sir....hope you like it.

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