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thomowen20

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India is a shithole and Indians are disgusting trolls. There are way too many of the bastards. I always figured if they wanted to seriously reduce the world population, the nasty little bastards in India would be a great place to start biological warfare. Then hit China and Africa!
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you´re from saudi arabia? a native?

this is africa, too, you know that? and the way woman are treated there? that woman there are sentenced to death when they get raped because they are blamed for it?

if you are from saudi arabia and an arab, i think you should shut up.
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Ummm, Saudi Arabia is in western Asia, not Africa. Look it up.
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I had a place in the country and an apartment in beijing. Beijing was extrememly crowded and people pay no attention to anyone around them they just go about their bussiness bumping into you. Traffic is messed up, they still havent got it figured out in that regard. Other than that I thought in was beautiful. I spent weekends out of the city (I couldnt take the overcrowdedness). There was a few farms nearby and the people there were pretty freindly and the scenery was amazing.
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that sounds nice! best of "both worlds".

for example, Delhi is a hot, dirty, dusty, oercrowded big city - but has its beautiful spots, too.

if you leave the city, the countryside is just astonishing and wonderful. the villages tourists stop by are like mini-Delhi, dirty and overcrowded, but if you don´t visit the usual hotspots, it´s just plain simple nice - even if it´s dirty as those people are poor.
scenery is breathtaking, and all people i met were nice, friendly and polite - genuinly.

i did visit only hongkong and the surrounding area more than 10 years ago, so i can´t really say anything on "china"; but if i compare hongkong and delhi or denpasar (indonesia), the difference is:
chinese don´t get in contact, they leave you alone - but if you get in contact,they get in "business-mode" and are forcing you, without being genuine friendly. this is different in delhi and denpasar for example.
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India is a shithole and Indians are disgusting trolls. There are way too many of the bastards. I always figured if they wanted to seriously reduce the world population, the nasty little bastards in India would be a great place to start biological warfare. Then hit China and Africa!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32613646


you´re from saudi arabia? a native?

this is africa, too, you know that? and the way woman are treated there? that woman there are sentenced to death when they get raped because they are blamed for it?

if you are from saudi arabia and an arab, i think you should shut up.
 Quoting: phoenixe



Ummm, Saudi Arabia is in western Asia, not Africa. Look it up.
 Quoting: thomowen20


of course you are right on the geographical thing, but saudi arabia is more like "egypt" (which is africa) than "india", including the language spoken, don´t you agree?
they have the "arab mindset" and religion, not the asian one..

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India is a hard, horrible but also very nice Place to travel,
i really hate to say it but imo. India, Woman, alone + Backpacking
is stupid and when they celebrate Holi even dangerous!

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Arrrrrrggghh, India- truly incredible!
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as blonde, caucasian woman who has travelled alone on her own both asia, africa (and some other countries), i never experienced those problems.

of course, as a foreigner you pay the tourist price for nearly everything, but it is not that extremely much more.
eg if a indian pays 50cent for a riksha ride, i had to pay approximately 2 USD.
but you have to bargain, as this is part of the culture one is visiting !
westeners are not used to that and later complain about being tricked. stupid westeners who don´t read at least a bit of information about the country they are visiting.

never ever have i been threatened while abroad - in no way.
i never had to be afraid someone might harm me in any way. not in africa, not in india.

i would even say i felt safer and "better looked after that no harm comes my way" when travelling those countries than living in my hometown in germany - because people in those countries look after "their" tourists, as they need nothing less than bad publicity as many of them depend on the money the tourists spend there!
(i was exactly told that by a Kenyan guy whom i talked to when visiting this beautiful country.
I was there, while ministry of foreign affairs warned about civil war there due to the election fraud some years ago - and our newspaper BILD had the headlines "2 Germans beheaded with machete" which was absolutely nothing but fearmongering and Kenya had to deal with a decline of 90% visitors due to all this stupid nonreal stuff)


but i did meet some other stupid tourists who run around all "oh those poor people", not knowing a word like "hello, thank you, good bye" in the language of the country they are visiting and throw their money around / show their wealth. some pay the price they are told without even thinking, so i can´t blame anyone who makes a months salary by selling to just one stupid whitey.

eg one austrian girl i met while traveling SOA, she got her handbag robbed (that´s what she told me) on her way home from partying, drinking, drugusing - so i don´t blame anyone than herself.
maybe she even lost it due to her condition.
this girl was that stupid, that she lost her passport while crossing the border from cambodia to thailand (while she had to go peepee), got angry and even yelled at the cambodian who found it and brought it right to her. she completely was impolite and "lost her face", because she couldn´t even speak english properly and blamed this guy for stealing it! (i was with her and her friend the whole day, no way the cambodian did it! she is just not able to look after herself).
btw, this girl had complete new&high end travelbag and stuff.

i won´t blame anyone in any country trying to make his share when having to deal with those kind of foreigners.
those tourists who don´t show respect to the people of the country they are visiting or are just plain stupid - i am not sorry if they get pulled over the table.
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bsflagbsflagbsflag
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That place has lots of problems.
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Sadly, that is true.
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India is a shithole and Indians are disgusting trolls. There are way too many of the bastards. I always figured if they wanted to seriously reduce the world population, the nasty little bastards in India would be a great place to start biological warfare. Then hit China and Africa!
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You must be Pakistani.
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"The cabbie charged me Rs 4,800. When I told him I couldn't pay so much, he talked about the recent gang rape in Delhi and insinuated that I might meet the same fate. I was numb with fear," she told TOI.

[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com]

wtf
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when you go to hell, you meet demons.It is common sense.
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India is a shithole and Indians are disgusting trolls. There are way too many of the bastards. I always figured if they wanted to seriously reduce the world population, the nasty little bastards in India would be a great place to start biological warfare. Then hit China and Africa!
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You must be Pakistani.
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All your neighbours hate you including china

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India is a shithole and Indians are disgusting trolls. There are way too many of the bastards. I always figured if they wanted to seriously reduce the world population, the nasty little bastards in India would be a great place to start biological warfare. Then hit China and Africa!
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You must be Pakistani.
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All your neighbours hate you including china
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We dont give a damn or not scared.
Maybe they hate us because of our growing markets.
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Hello people! It seems quite a storm is raging here and my newspaper article seems to be the trigger. I would like to thank you for reading it and reacting to it; but it looks like some of you are quite prejudiced towards us, Indians. You are entitled to your views, but apart from the German lady, others seem to be fighting with ill-formed opinions. Now, I don't want to kick up another storm here, but if you have anything substantial to add to the foreigner harassment story, kindly drop me an email. My ID is manimugdha.sharma@timesgroup.com
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Maybe it is because of the shit, piss, and class ridden stratified society.
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as blonde, caucasian woman who has travelled alone on her own both asia, africa (and some other countries), i never experienced those problems.

of course, as a foreigner you pay the tourist price for nearly everything, but it is not that extremely much more.
eg if a indian pays 50cent for a riksha ride, i had to pay approximately 2 USD.
but you have to bargain, as this is part of the culture one is visiting !
westeners are not used to that and later complain about being tricked. stupid westeners who don´t read at least a bit of information about the country they are visiting.

never ever have i been threatened while abroad - in no way.
i never had to be afraid someone might harm me in any way. not in africa, not in india.

i would even say i felt safer and "better looked after that no harm comes my way" when travelling those countries than living in my hometown in germany - because people in those countries look after "their" tourists, as they need nothing less than bad publicity as many of them depend on the money the tourists spend there!
(i was exactly told that by a Kenyan guy whom i talked to when visiting this beautiful country.
I was there, while ministry of foreign affairs warned about civil war there due to the election fraud some years ago - and our newspaper BILD had the headlines "2 Germans beheaded with machete" which was absolutely nothing but fearmongering and Kenya had to deal with a decline of 90% visitors due to all this stupid nonreal stuff)


but i did meet some other stupid tourists who run around all "oh those poor people", not knowing a word like "hello, thank you, good bye" in the language of the country they are visiting and throw their money around / show their wealth. some pay the price they are told without even thinking, so i can´t blame anyone who makes a months salary by selling to just one stupid whitey.

eg one austrian girl i met while traveling SOA, she got her handbag robbed (that´s what she told me) on her way home from partying, drinking, drugusing - so i don´t blame anyone than herself.
maybe she even lost it due to her condition.
this girl was that stupid, that she lost her passport while crossing the border from cambodia to thailand (while she had to go peepee), got angry and even yelled at the cambodian who found it and brought it right to her. she completely was impolite and "lost her face", because she couldn´t even speak english properly and blamed this guy for stealing it! (i was with her and her friend the whole day, no way the cambodian did it! she is just not able to look after herself).
btw, this girl had complete new&high end travelbag and stuff.

i won´t blame anyone in any country trying to make his share when having to deal with those kind of foreigners.
those tourists who don´t show respect to the people of the country they are visiting or are just plain stupid - i am not sorry if they get pulled over the table.
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clappa

You can come here anytime lady and you will be treated just fine!!
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Maybe it is because of the shit, piss, and class ridden stratified society.
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Yup, they should be more like you people and commit genocide on the darker natives of their land.

Your people have 45,000 USD to their name per annum.

If I reduced your society to < 2,000 ... you'd be the worst animals on the planet.

You're civilized ... so long as you're rich.

Pull the plug ... and we'll see your true nature.
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Julia Roberts LOVES India. She even became a Hindu devotee. It was during the filming of Eat, Pray, Love that she experience a life changing religious decision.

After dipping in the Ganges River she decided to make India a second home in order to be close.
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clappa

You can come here anytime lady and you will be treated just fine!!


:) i´m already planning on that - just have to improve my spanish skills a bit before !
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Hello people! It seems quite a storm is raging here and my newspaper article seems to be the trigger. I would like to thank you for reading it and reacting to it; but it looks like some of you are quite prejudiced towards us, Indians. You are entitled to your views, but apart from the German lady, others seem to be fighting with ill-formed opinions. Now, I don't want to kick up another storm here, but if you have anything substantial to add to the foreigner harassment story, kindly drop me an email. My ID is manimugdha.sharma@timesgroup.com
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..if you´re actually the real writer of the article, your offer to clear some of this intercultural mess up is much appreciated :)
thank you!
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"The cabbie charged me Rs 4,800. When I told him I couldn't pay so much, he talked about the recent gang rape in Delhi and insinuated that I might meet the same fate. I was numb with fear," she told TOI.

[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com]

wtf
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I guess you could say the same about taking your kids to the US given the shootings. Everything in perspective.
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Maybe it is because of the shit, piss, and class ridden stratified society.
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How those murdered Aboriginals doing?
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probably some screwed up women out there who would get a rush out of being sex hunted and knowingly go to India for this.
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you´ve been to india and china?
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I worked in china for several years. Never been to India nor do I ever plan too.
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ok, but did you visit "real" china or did you just stay in shanghai or another big, modern, growing city?

china is a "shithole", too, as every country is who makes it from 3rd world to nearly 1st world in just some years ;)
overpopulation and many poor people from the countryside moving in the cities, with all what comes along with that.
(slums, destroying the environment, drugs, crime..)
all the same everywhere.
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I had a place in the country and an apartment in beijing. Beijing was extrememly crowded and people pay no attention to anyone around them they just go about their bussiness bumping into you. Traffic is messed up, they still havent got it figured out in that regard. Other than that I thought in was beautiful. I spent weekends out of the city (I couldnt take the overcrowdedness). There was a few farms nearby and the people there were pretty freindly and the scenery was amazing.
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Right
You are better off chainsmoking 3 packs a day then breathing that shitty air in beijing.
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India is a shithole and Indians are disgusting trolls. There are way too many of the bastards. I always figured if they wanted to seriously reduce the world population, the nasty little bastards in India would be a great place to start biological warfare. Then hit China and Africa!
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You must be Pakistani.
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All your neighbours hate you including china
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We dont give a damn or not scared.
Maybe they hate us because of our growing markets.
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As austerity bites down in europe and north america , where are your exports going too be sold ? Don't see a booming business in tech support for countries like somalia .

Dying a slow strangulation death and you don't even see it )
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and they kick up an inernational stink and call us racist when a few got bashed over

here.
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thisssssssssss!!!!!!!!
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I've been to India a few times, and have my own stories.. but the one I wish to share is in regards to what my friend told me.

She was travelling around in India with this little Japanese girl she met. This dacoit appeared with a knife, demanding the Japanese girl's camera. She instead, handed the camera to my friend, then executed a few nifty kung fu moves - landing the dacoit onto the ground.

The two then casually walked off, with all the locals having witnessed the whole affair.
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$89 USD to get to the hotel. Wow. I've heard some crap like that in Thailand too (minus the rape threats). If you're white, they'll charge you double for everything, site you for laws you didn't break, etc. Bribes are the order of the day. You'd better be traveling with locals. I have no interest in foreign travel.
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That's a shame. While I won't argue that India has lots of problems, it's still a fascinating place to visit. And Thailand, to cite your other example, is really a great place to spend time -- safe and pretty developed and still very, very cheap.

Yes, it's quite common for the locals to try to overcharge white tourists many places in the world, but that shit is blown WAY out of proportion. You travel enough and you learn how to negotiate and how to prevent against being taken advantage of. And in most lesser-developed countries, getting taken advantage of means you end up paying $2 instead of $1.50 for a meal, things like that. In Thailand, for example, I got good meals, even in Bangkok, for less than $2.

Traveling outside your home country is one of the most rewarding, mind-expanding endeavors you can undertake. The things you're exposed to, the people you meet, the challenges you have to overcome, these things push your boundaries and guarantee your personal growth. There's nothing I recommend more highly.
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My sister visited India twice and she has been harrassed several times, but she's good at defending herself. ;)

I know Jakarta as if I lived there my whole life. Yes, they try to charge more on everything, but not with this dude. I learned the basics of Indonesian, good enough to let them understand they don't have to play games with me.

The best trick in Asia - when you're a man and tall - is to shout as loud as you can and show an angry face. They don't understand that, they feel very unconfortable when you do that.

My ex-gf warned me for non-registered taxis in Jakarta. One day, I took a cab and I couldn't see a registration number, once I was inside. I knew I was in trouble. First he was asking me if I was American or English, then he was driving in the wrong direction. I told him to stop the car, but he didn't want to. He asked for $50. I showed him the middle finger. And then I started to shout in my local dialect. He stopped the car in the middle of a busy road. That was a good idea. I was very close to attack him physically and I would have punched the hell out of him.
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$89 USD to get to the hotel. Wow. I've heard some crap like that in Thailand too (minus the rape threats). If you're white, they'll charge you double for everything, site you for laws you didn't break, etc. Bribes are the order of the day. You'd better be traveling with locals. I have no interest in foreign travel.
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That's a shame. While I won't argue that India has lots of problems, it's still a fascinating place to visit. And Thailand, to cite your other example, is really a great place to spend time -- safe and pretty developed and still very, very cheap.

Yes, it's quite common for the locals to try to overcharge white tourists many places in the world, but that shit is blown WAY out of proportion. You travel enough and you learn how to negotiate and how to prevent against being taken advantage of. And in most lesser-developed countries, getting taken advantage of means you end up paying $2 instead of $1.50 for a meal, things like that. In Thailand, for example, I got good meals, even in Bangkok, for less than $2.

Traveling outside your home country is one of the most rewarding, mind-expanding endeavors you can undertake. The things you're exposed to, the people you meet, the challenges you have to overcome, these things push your boundaries and guarantee your personal growth. There's nothing I recommend more highly.
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I agree 100%.

I've noticed that most Americans don't visit other countries. The racist mentality in general might have something to do with it.
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Easy to pick up diseases like malaria in 3rd world countries.
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yes. and picking up deadly animals in AUS is easy, too.
once again: use common sense.

more info on malaria, as fearmongering about this is common, too:
- 90% of all malaria cases happen in Africa, south of the Sahara desert.
- according to WHO statistics, 216 million(billion for the US) cases were reported
- only 655.000 people died from it.
- the ones who died where mostly small african children in the outer parts of the country where they lack of medical treatment.

so.. the chance of picking up malaria when travelling, having a moskito net, wearing long clothes and applying insect repellent are not that big.
and even if you get stung - you (should bring along) have an anti-malaria treatment as standby in the case it happens.
as every malaria is cureable, no problem with malaria _for us tourists_.

(did you know, most africans die from malaria because they are so poor they can´t pay the 1 USD to buy a moskito net?)
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hey girl, are you single? you're so damn pretty! hf
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I'd go if I had the chance. I've always wanted to see the Taj Mahal among others things in India.
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My sister visited India twice and she has been harrassed several times, but she's good at defending herself. ;)

I know Jakarta as if I lived there my whole life. Yes, they try to charge more on everything, but not with this dude. I learned the basics of Indonesian, good enough to let them understand they don't have to play games with me.

The best trick in Asia - when you're a man and tall - is to shout as loud as you can and show an angry face. They don't understand that, they feel very unconfortable when you do that.

My ex-gf warned me for non-registered taxis in Jakarta. One day, I took a cab and I couldn't see a registration number, once I was inside. I knew I was in trouble. First he was asking me if I was American or English, then he was driving in the wrong direction. I told him to stop the car, but he didn't want to. He asked for $50. I showed him the middle finger. And then I started to shout in my local dialect. He stopped the car in the middle of a busy road. That was a good idea. I was very close to attack him physically and I would have punched the hell out of him.
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Yeah, when some cabbie tries to pull a stunt, it's usually all bluster, almost never a big deal. Even girls I know who have traveled alone just raise their voices and get angry and that's the end of it; the cabbie doesn't actually want trouble, he just wants to find those foreigners who are timid and won't stand up for themselves.

But I've honestly had those things happen very rarely. Usually they just try to overcharge you, get you to pay more than the locals would. And once you've lived somewhere long enough where you can speak the language, they're even more reluctant to pull anything.

Still always a good idea to keep your wits about you, but the idea that the world is this big, dangerous, scary place reveals itself to be a pretty ridiculous idea, once you're out traveling around.

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