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India no place for foreign women

 
pinkpixiexx

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01/21/2013 07:01 AM

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I went to India many years ago and absolutely fell in love with the place and the people. I long to go back again soon...hf
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01/21/2013 07:02 AM
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$89 USD to get to the hotel. Wow. I've heard some crap like that in Thailand too (minus the rape threats). If you're white, they'll charge you double for everything, site you for laws you didn't break, etc. Bribes are the order of the day. You'd better be traveling with locals. I have no interest in foreign travel.
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That's a shame. While I won't argue that India has lots of problems, it's still a fascinating place to visit. And Thailand, to cite your other example, is really a great place to spend time -- safe and pretty developed and still very, very cheap.

Yes, it's quite common for the locals to try to overcharge white tourists many places in the world, but that shit is blown WAY out of proportion. You travel enough and you learn how to negotiate and how to prevent against being taken advantage of. And in most lesser-developed countries, getting taken advantage of means you end up paying $2 instead of $1.50 for a meal, things like that. In Thailand, for example, I got good meals, even in Bangkok, for less than $2.

Traveling outside your home country is one of the most rewarding, mind-expanding endeavors you can undertake. The things you're exposed to, the people you meet, the challenges you have to overcome, these things push your boundaries and guarantee your personal growth. There's nothing I recommend more highly.
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I agree 100%.

I've noticed that most Americans don't visit other countries. The racist mentality in general might have something to do with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32679658


Yes, a surprisingly small percentage of Americans travel outside the U.S. It's impossible to explain how powerful the propaganda machine is there, and how terrified of the world it makes you when you grow up being inundated with that kind of propaganda. Excepting a few other developed countries, like maybe England and France, the average American truly believes that the rest of the world is a fantastically dangerous, disgusting shithole, best avoided. I meet VERY few Americans when I'm in Asia, Africa, or South America. Luckily, the Americans I do meet in those places are very different from the norm -- far more enlightened and forward-thinking. I almost invariably like them.
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01/21/2013 07:04 AM
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You must be Pakistani.
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All your neighbours hate you including china
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We dont give a damn or not scared.
Maybe they hate us because of our growing markets.
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As austerity bites down in europe and north america , where are your exports going too be sold ? Don't see a booming business in tech support for countries like somalia .

Dying a slow strangulation death and you don't even see it )
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What are you on!

Indian Companies are making the best of the time in Technology,Consulting,I.T.

Add on:Jaguar and Land Rover is already owned by Indian company.
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01/21/2013 07:10 AM
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"The cabbie charged me Rs 4,800. When I told him I couldn't pay so much, he talked about the recent gang rape in Delhi and insinuated that I might meet the same fate. I was numb with fear," she told TOI.

[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com]

wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32584297


The coolies shit in the street and masturbate round every corner in that dungheap!
They LOVE the foreign girls, but by love I mean they'd love to rape them.
Never been to a country with a hornier male populace...Yuck!!!
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01/21/2013 07:25 AM
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$89 USD to get to the hotel. Wow. I've heard some crap like that in Thailand too (minus the rape threats). If you're white, they'll charge you double for everything, site you for laws you didn't break, etc. Bribes are the order of the day. You'd better be traveling with locals. I have no interest in foreign travel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27921992


That's a shame. While I won't argue that India has lots of problems, it's still a fascinating place to visit. And Thailand, to cite your other example, is really a great place to spend time -- safe and pretty developed and still very, very cheap.

Yes, it's quite common for the locals to try to overcharge white tourists many places in the world, but that shit is blown WAY out of proportion. You travel enough and you learn how to negotiate and how to prevent against being taken advantage of. And in most lesser-developed countries, getting taken advantage of means you end up paying $2 instead of $1.50 for a meal, things like that. In Thailand, for example, I got good meals, even in Bangkok, for less than $2.

Traveling outside your home country is one of the most rewarding, mind-expanding endeavors you can undertake. The things you're exposed to, the people you meet, the challenges you have to overcome, these things push your boundaries and guarantee your personal growth. There's nothing I recommend more highly.
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I agree 100%.

I've noticed that most Americans don't visit other countries. The racist mentality in general might have something to do with it.
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Er cause we can see kitchy touristy shit without leaving america.

Get overcharged by inbred , scumeating monkeys right here.

Also on average americans get two not six weeks vacation.

Plus its expensive for most budgets these days .

The Touch Someone's Ass cock maggots have made flying anywhere a degrading unpleasant experience. So fuck that I will not fly unless there is ordnance under the wings these days ).

Mostly its about money , travel hassles and amount of vacay time. So yes it would be nice to be within driving distance of 10 or more other countries/cultures. On the plus side we don't have to teach our women to say three wet holes no waiting soldier boys in 6 languages as a survival technique ).
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01/21/2013 07:27 AM
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india is a shithole
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01/21/2013 07:45 AM
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india is a shithole
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And your beloved country is a giant prison.
Manimugdha S Sharma
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01/21/2013 07:59 AM
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Ma'am phoenixe,

I am 100% the real author of the piece. The Japanese woman who was overcharged is my friend. The idea for this article struck me when she narrated her horror story to me. I will have to admit that even though I was aware of foreigner harassment in my country, I never looked at it like a journalist.

I thank you for the appreciation, even though I know I should have done it long ago.

I would still appreciate if you have a bad or interesting experience to share for a follow-up article I will be doing in a week's time.

Thank you very much.

Warm regards from the Indian capital

Mani
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01/21/2013 08:10 AM
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If you can't attract a mate, you deserve to die.
Survival of the (consentual) fittest.
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01/21/2013 01:19 PM
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If you can't attract a mate, you deserve to die.
Survival of the (consentual) fittest.
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iamwith
phoenixe

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01/21/2013 06:07 PM
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Easy to pick up diseases like malaria in 3rd world countries.
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hey girl, are you single? you're so damn pretty! hf
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in fact, i am. but you´re nearly on the other side of the world :/ where in CAN are you?
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01/21/2013 06:09 PM
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I'd go if I had the chance. I've always wanted to see the Taj Mahal among others things in India.
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it is in fact beautiful, but overcrowded with tourists. at 6am in the morning it is ok. but if you ever have the chance, go much earlier and bring enough time to enjoy the atmosphere, it is way special.. the park and the other memorials there are just beautiful, too.
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01/21/2013 06:16 PM
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master martial arts, learn parkour, learn survival methods, learn strategy. no problems here.
phoenixe

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01/21/2013 06:25 PM
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Ma'am phoenixe,

I am 100% the real author of the piece. The Japanese woman who was overcharged is my friend. The idea for this article struck me when she narrated her horror story to me. I will have to admit that even though I was aware of foreigner harassment in my country, I never looked at it like a journalist.

I thank you for the appreciation, even though I know I should have done it long ago.

I would still appreciate if you have a bad or interesting experience to share for a follow-up article I will be doing in a week's time.

Thank you very much.

Warm regards from the Indian capital

Mani
 Quoting: Manimugdha S Sharma 3894468


Dear Mani,

I am sorry (well, no, I am NOT SORRY!), but I don´t have any real bad experiences to tell about India.

I don´t understand why you´re writing negative things about your country, i really don´t.

I think you maybe do harm which can´t be undone easily(like those false stories our newspapers wrote about what happened in Kenya) and i can´t and will not participate in this.

Besides that, i have nothing interesting to tell at all - but i am full of nice, beautiful but personal anecdotes from my stay there. I saw the the notsobeautiful side, too, but it can´t keep up with the nice things, if you may understand.

India for me is one of the most contrastive countries, you can´t compare it to any other.
As some other users here wrote "a shithole" - and I like to add: the most beautiful a shithole can ever be.

Some of my friends who have been there, too, hate India, so I suppose:
you either fall in love with her instantly, or the total opposite. there is nothing in between.

I would be glad if you would change your mind or let others write about the beautiful things in India, maybe your articles about the bad things and someone else writing about the god ones, so it is equal in the end?

warm regards back,
Phoe

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01/21/2013 06:26 PM
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as blonde, caucasian woman who has travelled alone on her own both asia, africa (and some other countries), i never experienced those problems.

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That is because you are fucking ugly. Just look at your avatar and you will realize this.
phoenixe

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01/21/2013 06:29 PM
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as blonde, caucasian woman who has travelled alone on her own both asia, africa (and some other countries), i never experienced those problems.

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That is because you are fucking ugly. Just look at your avatar and you will realize this.
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so at least it helps me having great vacations abroad ;)
hf
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01/21/2013 06:36 PM

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India is a shithole and Indians are disgusting trolls. There are way too many of the bastards. I always figured if they wanted to seriously reduce the world population, the nasty little bastards in India would be a great place to start biological warfare. Then hit China and Africa!
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And you think the way men treat women in your country is any better?
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
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Manimugdha S Sharma
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01/22/2013 04:05 AM
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Dear Phoe,

You have strong principles. I like that. I respect your decision; however, please do not think that I am bent on demeaning my country. I don't do that. Never. But the government and the society as a whole needs to be shown the mirror at times. They need to know what they are doing wrong and where they are going wrong. Any system, culture or civilization that does not learn to adapt or introspect is doomed. Please do not misjudge my intentions.

I take great pride in the fact that some of my articles in the past had forced the government to stand up and take notice. You might be aware of the attacks on the Benghazi War Cemetery, which was condemned by the prime ministers of UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. There were many Indian graves in that cemetery, too, which nobody talked about. Our govt kept mum over the issue even though 2.5 million Indian soldiers fought in WWII for the British Empire, my maternal grandfather being one of them.

Acting on a hunch that Indian graves, too, may have been destroyed, I found out the names of Indian soldiers buried there and details of their families. My article forced the Government of India to send a team to Benghazi. They found that 9 Indian graves had been destroyed by the vandals. Our government took it up with the NTC Govt of Libya, and Libya officially apologized to India. The Indian govt, unfortunately, didn't even know that we pay for the upkeep of that cemetery. Do you think I did a nasty thing?

Then there were certain anomalies in the passport issuing system. People were being harassed with demands for documents and more documents. I did a series of articles on that and the External Affairs Ministry announced reforms immediately. Today, although there are issues, but it is still easier to get a passport in India.

Good things about the country are reported quite often, but even other countries should write good about us. How will that happen if foreign tourists are cheated and harassed? A lot needs to change. A lot. And if journalists keep quiet and write only about the good things, the bad things will lie unnoticed and fester.

There are many things that I want to say, but I guess this is not the right place for that. Feel free to drop me a line or two about what changes you would like to see the next time you come to India; or, what you think the government and the police need to do to make foreigners feel safe. You know such feedback is very important. My email ID is manimugdha.sharma@timesgroup.com

But yes, if you still feel you shouldn't participate in such an exercise, I will respect your decision.

Thank you.

Warm regards,

Mani
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as blonde, caucasian woman who has travelled alone on her own both asia, africa (and some other countries), i never experienced those problems.

of course, as a foreigner you pay the tourist price for nearly everything, but it is not that extremely much more.
eg if a indian pays 50cent for a riksha ride, i had to pay approximately 2 USD.
but you have to bargain, as this is part of the culture one is visiting !
westeners are not used to that and later complain about being tricked. stupid westeners who don´t read at least a bit of information about the country they are visiting.

never ever have i been threatened while abroad - in no way.
i never had to be afraid someone might harm me in any way. not in africa, not in india.

i would even say i felt safer and "better looked after that no harm comes my way" when travelling those countries than living in my hometown in germany - because people in those countries look after "their" tourists, as they need nothing less than bad publicity as many of them depend on the money the tourists spend there!
(i was exactly told that by a Kenyan guy whom i talked to when visiting this beautiful country.
I was there, while ministry of foreign affairs warned about civil war there due to the election fraud some years ago - and our newspaper BILD had the headlines "2 Germans beheaded with machete" which was absolutely nothing but fearmongering and Kenya had to deal with a decline of 90% visitors due to all this stupid nonreal stuff)


but i did meet some other stupid tourists who run around all "oh those poor people", not knowing a word like "hello, thank you, good bye" in the language of the country they are visiting and throw their money around / show their wealth. some pay the price they are told without even thinking, so i can´t blame anyone who makes a months salary by selling to just one stupid whitey.

eg one austrian girl i met while traveling SOA, she got her handbag robbed (that´s what she told me) on her way home from partying, drinking, drugusing - so i don´t blame anyone than herself.
maybe she even lost it due to her condition.
this girl was that stupid, that she lost her passport while crossing the border from cambodia to thailand (while she had to go peepee), got angry and even yelled at the cambodian who found it and brought it right to her. she completely was impolite and "lost her face", because she couldn´t even speak english properly and blamed this guy for stealing it! (i was with her and her friend the whole day, no way the cambodian did it! she is just not able to look after herself).
btw, this girl had complete new&high end travelbag and stuff.

i won´t blame anyone in any country trying to make his share when having to deal with those kind of foreigners.
those tourists who don´t show respect to the people of the country they are visiting or are just plain stupid - i am not sorry if they get pulled over the table.
 Quoting: phoenixe


Err... no! Better watch yourself girl.

Of course there are decent people everywhere. There are a lot of fucked up ones too. To some extend it'll depend on your luck who you meet.

It's good to be respectful of course, but be cautious too.
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Indian is no place for women, period. I think they should all immigrate and leave the men behind or all get sterile so they cant be forced into having more.
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01/22/2013 06:38 AM
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or just don't travel to countries that treat westerners and women badly.... white westerners used to have beautiful countries..
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All your neighbours hate you including china
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We dont give a damn or not scared.
Maybe they hate us because of our growing markets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12560904


As austerity bites down in europe and north america , where are your exports going too be sold ? Don't see a booming business in tech support for countries like somalia .

Dying a slow strangulation death and you don't even see it )
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12056996


What are you on!

Indian Companies are making the best of the time in Technology,Consulting,I.T.

Add on:Jaguar and Land Rover is already owned by Indian company.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32715565


More typical nationalistic type of nonsense from an Indian man.

Why are indians so racist against other countries and cultures? It's like the very concept of multiculturalism is totally alien to indians. Most indians have a very backwards mentality, like they are still living in the stone ages.

India will never evolve and become a part of the global economy. 90 percent of people there are uneducated stupid barbarians. Indian will never advance because the majority of the people there are like stupid animals.
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Indian is no place for women, period. I think they should all immigrate and leave the men behind or all get sterile so they cant be forced into having more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13250526


Yes, indian MEN are the most low class disgusting PIGS on the planet. I spent a few years in India, so I know what I am talking about.

Indian men are the most disgusting pigs I have ever seen before. They have no respect for anyone. They'll rape their own sisters and mothers.

Indian men are barbarian animals. The world would be a much better place if they would just be killed off.
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We dont give a damn or not scared.
Maybe they hate us because of our growing markets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12560904


As austerity bites down in europe and north america , where are your exports going too be sold ? Don't see a booming business in tech support for countries like somalia .

Dying a slow strangulation death and you don't even see it )
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12056996


What are you on!

Indian Companies are making the best of the time in Technology,Consulting,I.T.

Add on:Jaguar and Land Rover is already owned by Indian company.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32715565


More typical nationalistic type of nonsense from an Indian man.

Why are indians so racist against other countries and cultures? It's like the very concept of multiculturalism is totally alien to indians. Most indians have a very backwards mentality, like they are still living in the stone ages.

India will never evolve and become a part of the global economy. 90 percent of people there are uneducated stupid barbarians. Indian will never advance because the majority of the people there are like stupid animals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25422886


Moron,i dont know your nationality and have no intention of bashing Cambodia.

I was replying to the point, if you do not have any counter argument....plz

stfu
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Indian is no place for women, period. I think they should all immigrate and leave the men behind or all get sterile so they cant be forced into having more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13250526


Yes, indian MEN are the most low class disgusting PIGS on the planet. I spent a few years in India, so I know what I am talking about.

Indian men are the most disgusting pigs I have ever seen before. They have no respect for anyone. They'll rape their own sisters and mothers.

Indian men are barbarian animals. The world would be a much better place if they would just be killed off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25422886


Prove your nationality and i can show hundred's of your barbarian brothers raping mother and sister's.

Stop posting under Cambodia flag and get a life.
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As austerity bites down in europe and north america , where are your exports going too be sold ? Don't see a booming business in tech support for countries like somalia .

Dying a slow strangulation death and you don't even see it )
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12056996


What are you on!

Indian Companies are making the best of the time in Technology,Consulting,I.T.

Add on:Jaguar and Land Rover is already owned by Indian company.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32715565


More typical nationalistic type of nonsense from an Indian man.

Why are indians so racist against other countries and cultures? It's like the very concept of multiculturalism is totally alien to indians. Most indians have a very backwards mentality, like they are still living in the stone ages.

India will never evolve and become a part of the global economy. 90 percent of people there are uneducated stupid barbarians. Indian will never advance because the majority of the people there are like stupid animals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25422886


Moron,i dont know your nationality and have no intention of bashing Cambodia.

I was replying to the point, if you do not have any counter argument....plz

stfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32798591


LOL! Expose your typical indian male arrogance. You indian men can never admit your mistakes, yuo are such ignorant arrogant dumb bastards.

What's the matter? Is the truth bitter? Indian men ARE the most low class type of men on earth. There was a poll done a while back, where women from different countries were asked what nationality of husbands they would want the most, and what they would want the least.

The results? 95 percent of women answers that American MEN are the world's bset husbands.

And 90 percent answered that INDIAN MEN are the world's WORST husbands.

LOL, you disgusting pig indian men have a really bad reputation worldwide.

Indian men are like animals. They are not even human.
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01/22/2013 08:12 AM
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India ranked as the NUMBER 1 worst place on earth for women.

THat is, women in India are treated WORSE than women even in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, or Iraq.

You Indian men TRULY ARE DISGUSTING PIGS who treat women like CRAP, and the FACTS prove it.

No where else on earth are violent rapes so common as in India.

You indian men treat women like garbage, this is what low class garbage you Indian men are.

You indian men should all be shot dead. The world would be a far better place without you.
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or just don't travel to countries that treat westerners and women badly.... white westerners used to have beautiful countries..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32795586


Yes our western countries used to be so beautiful and nice, before all these disgusting low class pigs from the 3rd world like India and Pakistan started immigrating.

Is that not proof that Indian men are low class animals?

BEFORE indian men started coming to western countries, the countries were all clean and nice. Now AFTER the mass immigration of Indians to the West, the western countries are dirty, covered in trash, and stink just like India.

Why don't you SCUMBAG INDIAN MEN go back to India, where you belong, and stop polluting our beautiful western countries???
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01/22/2013 08:43 AM
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Its not only india, if anywhere in earth is crowded and there is lots of poverty, you should not be there.

Its a basic rule, if you are not smart enough to udnerstand the basics of life, you`d be killed or some other nasty things could happen to you...

Life is beautiful in Sweden, Norway, Canada, go these places, not india, china and some other problematic places if you love your life and care about your future.

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