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Message Subject Prometheus2: VATICAN'S secret is NOT "Why did the Pope Resign?" They were standing on it as they elected the new Pope!
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Michael, in the post above this stated:

To me, it sounds like something that the Vatican itself would want people to believe.


Because such a finding is utterly harmless to Christian theology.

It makes NO difference whatsoever one way or the other whether the Orion Nebula is conscious. (Of course it is conscious; the metaphysical duality being the original flaw: the entire physical reality is conscious, but not with the consciousness of the "self" or the 'thinker'.)

I may not be understanding your argument, here, maybe
you can explain it to me like I'm a 4 year old. I don't
agree at all!... It's a total game changer!
 Quoting: SilentlyKnowing

What I am saying is that to say that the Orion Nebula is conscious is a fundamentally trivial statement; especially when you do not define in any way what you mean by the word "conscious".

Do you mean the consciousness of the "self", or of the 'thinker'. Or do you mean another kind of consciousness?

This is not merely a trivial matter.

People need to know what is being discussed.

In the same way, the moon is conscious, Jupiter is conscious, etc. etc.

As to whether such an assertion would threaten the Vatican; I must admit that I am completely flabbergasted by such a suggestion.

What does a conscious Orion Nebula have to do with the doctrine of "vicarious atonement" or the doctrine of a physical raising of a dead body from the grave?

And, even if there could be a 20 point argument explaining the relationship to such doctrines, how many people are going to go to the trouble of pursuing such an argument?

It is orders of magnitude simpler to say that, if you want to read the words of Jesus himself, read the Thanksgiving Hymns of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Yet almost no one will go to the trouble of doing that.

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