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...hello in there...just a thought I had that's been circulating inside my head....I've tried to consolidate my thoughts so that they are listed in something of a line progression. Point here, point there...and move on.

....Sandy Hook Elementary goes into lock down mode each school day at 09:30 am. The doors are locked so those wishing to enter the school must be buzzed in by somebody inside that can view the visitors on their recently installed video surveillance system.

...the phone call we have on record to 911 is time stamped at 09:30 am.

So I am confused because....

1.) There are accounts of police officers breaking the glass of the school door entrance in order to gain access to the building. Makes sense if the school was in its daily lockdown protocol.

2.) Or...Lanza gained entrance into the school bulding by shooting his way through the doors. This is what they've been asserting for awhile now.

....But 911 received a phone call at 09:30 am informing them of shots being fired inside the school....shots at this point have been going on for at least 15-30 seconds so wouldn't that imply that Lanza had actually made it into the school -before- the 09:30 am lockdown?....does anybody see the time frame as kinda weird there?

...hope everybody is doing well....take care.hiding

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Yes he (we dont know if it was Adam) was let in
he was wearing Preists clothing
so was let in.

their is news of this and it was the intital story
but changed as time went on
as disinfo and cover up kicked in

This thread and the other link to another thread, concentrates on real provable facts of the crime and other events at st rose a nearby school.
rather than specualting if people are actors
which even if they are doesnt answer what happened at sandy hook school and who did it.
Thread: Breaking News: Sandy Hook Evidence of at least 3 NUN Shooters
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But 911 received a phone call at 09:30 am informing them of shots being fired inside the school....shots at this point have been going on for at least 15-30 seconds so wouldn't that imply that ????? had actually made it into the school -before- the 09:30 am lockdown?....does anybody see the time frame as kinda weird there?

Great observing of actual EVIDENCE.
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five star thread and deserves a pin
it uncovers evidence in the official time line that supports the witness statements that the shooter was indeed let inside
before the 9.30 deadline

why?
as other witness statements say
he was thought to be a Preist and so was let in, even if before 9.30 am
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there is a lot of people who are trying to dismiss these real sandy hook investigations
while supporting the useless videos conspiracies calling the people actors

this kind of real evidence is being shunned
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But 911 received a phone call at 09:30 am informing them of shots being fired inside the school....shots at this point have been going on for at least 15-30 seconds so wouldn't that imply that ????? had actually made it into the school -before- the 09:30 am lockdown?....does anybody see the time frame as kinda weird there?

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Except for the fact of supposedly the first parent on the scene who was bringing her child something he forgot noticed the broken glass of the doorway? It was on video somewhere on GLP?
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In truth, the shooting would of been going on for at least 5 to ten mins before anyone had the presence of mind to call 911.. in the new interview from fox news's on the record, sharon burton says the shooting went on for 20 - 25 mins.. so this new interview blows the whole 'he shot through the door' theory out the window..

see it here..



Thread: On The Record Interview with Sharon Burton Sandy Hook Teacher Survivor blows timeline out of the water
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....Anderson Cooper used an assistant professor far out of this league...can't blame him...was a little comical watching him dish out shit to somebody that will never be on level playing ground. But why not just argue the simple time references they've given us of 09:30 am?....they told the public 09:30 am...okay...so then Lanza was in the building BEFORE lockdown.hiding

....Anderson Cooper had a buffet of choices at his disposal that he was able to utilize during his ranting segment. He was afforded the luxury of identity....and the politics of identity...Cooper gave the public a name and a face when he used the assistant professor from Florida, creating his foundations at rebuffing the conspiracists. He argued the weak points, the flawed points that we have already been able to discern. Sorting through these pieces, we are assigning more rational doubts to the bits of this reality that are more credible.

...Anderson Cooper directed his paradigm platform using those weak links to begin their slant to discredit those that are simply wanting to know -the simple truth-. People died....there's a good chance of that...but the true course of events & how they unfolded and developed before the stage that is MSM...that's where it all gets tangled...and they blame us for responding with endless questions because they had holes from the very genesis of this event.

....I hope everybody is having a pleasant day...yes indeed.

....strand

five star thread and deserves a pin
it uncovers evidence in the official time line that supports the witness statements that the shooter was indeed let inside
before the 9.30 deadline

why?
as other witness statements say
he was thought to be a Preist and so was let in, even if before 9.30 am
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I kept going over in my head....0930 am school goes in lockdown....0930 am first 911 call about the shooting...and something didn't add up and I couldn't explain it & I felt silly when I saw the times...it was there open and free to see...Lanza was in the school BEFORE 09:30 am....may not reveal the WHOLE scheme...but it reassures you in the pit of your stomach that this doubt we feel is valid. Makes me feel a little more rational....

...but if I had it all...

strand

But 911 received a phone call at 09:30 am informing them of shots being fired inside the school....shots at this point have been going on for at least 15-30 seconds so wouldn't that imply that ????? had actually made it into the school -before- the 09:30 am lockdown?....does anybody see the time frame as kinda weird there?

Great observing of actual EVIDENCE.
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Add to this a reporter's tweet (and accompanying photo) indicating that the Lanza house (or, at the very least, that immediate area) was already blocked off by the police at least as early as 9:36 am.

Though they allegedly didn't enter the house until after 2pm???
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In truth, the shooting would of been going on for at least 5 to ten mins before anyone had the presence of mind to call 911.. in the new interview from fox news's on the record, sharon burton says the shooting went on for 20 - 25 mins.. so this new interview blows the whole 'he shot through the door' theory out the window..

see it here..



Thread: On The Record Interview with Sharon Burton Sandy Hook Teacher Survivor blows timeline out of the water
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5-10 minutes is a looooooong time to be getting shot at/ hearing shots fired and NOT calling 911........ I don't buy that for a second.
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In truth, the shooting would of been going on for at least 5 to ten mins before anyone had the presence of mind to call 911.. in the new interview from fox news's on the record, sharon burton says the shooting went on for 20 - 25 mins.. so this new interview blows the whole 'he shot through the door' theory out the window..

see it here..



Thread: On The Record Interview with Sharon Burton Sandy Hook Teacher Survivor blows timeline out of the water
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this video is the only video of an interview where the person is telling the truth.

the only one so far!

the rest are actors!
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I kept going over in my head....0930 am school goes in lockdown....0930 am first 911 call about the shooting...and something didn't add up and I couldn't explain it & I felt silly when I saw the times...it was there open and free to see...Lanza was in the school BEFORE 09:30 am....may not reveal the WHOLE scheme...but it reassures you in the pit of your stomach that this doubt we feel is valid. Makes me feel a little more rational....[/quote


One report says he was dressed as a priest and was let in because of that. There aren't many 20 year old priests. Even fewer priests walk around carrying guns and hundreds of rounds of ammuntion.

Other reports say he was wearing a mask. I haven't heard if it was a ski mask, a Richard Nixon mask, or what, but I doubt it was a priest mask. I can't imagine anyone wandering freely into a school wearing a mask, especially if he's completely loaded up with guns and ammo.

But yet it would appear he did NOT shoot out the glass to gain entry (according to the initial report and one later witness), which would indicate that he walked in without interference, and there's no way in hell someone armed to the teeth would blend in and go unnoticed. So, if he was in the building before 9:30, then the hardware was either already inside (put there earlier), OR he had to gain early entry to let other people in (presumably those with the guns). But then that destroys the lone nut theory, so he blasted out the glass (even if the next person to mention the door someow overlooked the broken glass and giant gaping hole).

Also, the first rendition of the story is that he was found with 2 handguns...with the rifle in the car. Then it was 4 guns...then it was 'an undisclosed number of weapons' whose final locations were not revealed. It seems they estimated the largest number of guns 1 guy could technically carry and they went with that.
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In truth, the shooting would of been going on for at least 5 to ten mins before anyone had the presence of mind to call 911.. in the new interview from fox news's on the record, sharon burton says the shooting went on for 20 - 25 mins.. so this new interview blows the whole 'he shot through the door' theory out the window..

see it here..



Thread: On The Record Interview with Sharon Burton Sandy Hook Teacher Survivor blows timeline out of the water
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5-10 minutes is a looooooong time to be getting shot at/ hearing shots fired and NOT calling 911........ I don't buy that for a second.
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You fail to realise that there was commotion first at the office.. The principal and school shrink went running out to see what was happening ... this would of taken a few mins ... people do not react immediately... they panic, then they get their wits about them... and lets not forget, that the person who called, would of had to realise there was a shooting, then HIDE .. you are not going to stand or sit at your desk and call 911 in full view of the shooter.. so commotion.. yelling, screaming, shooting, "oh fuck whats that".. pop pop pop.. "oh fuck gun fire.. hide!".. find a hiding place.. "oh fuck more shooting".. "where the fuck is my phone.." hands shaking.. "FUCK"... dial 911...

Yeah... 5 mins easy... 10 at max.. shooting went on for 20 to 25 mins... shooting was ceased inside by 9.43 i believe.. so entry to school at a minimum by my reckoning 9.15 - 9.20am...

Just logic..
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I kept going over in my head....0930 am school goes in lockdown....0930 am first 911 call about the shooting...and something didn't add up and I couldn't explain it & I felt silly when I saw the times...it was there open and free to see...Lanza was in the school BEFORE 09:30 am....may not reveal the WHOLE scheme...but it reassures you in the pit of your stomach that this doubt we feel is valid. Makes me feel a little more rational....

...but if I had it all...

strand

But 911 received a phone call at 09:30 am informing them of shots being fired inside the school....shots at this point have been going on for at least 15-30 seconds so wouldn't that imply that ????? had actually made it into the school -before- the 09:30 am lockdown?....does anybody see the time frame as kinda weird there?

Great observing of actual EVIDENCE.
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 Quoting: everydayking


Most of your elementary schools have teachers at the front doors greeting parents with children and ones getting off the bus. So would this imply that someone that did this came in the school with a child as a parent???? I am sure all other doors would of been locked and everyone would of still been entering through the front. IDK Just sayin'
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In truth, the shooting would of been going on for at least 5 to ten mins before anyone had the presence of mind to call 911.. in the new interview from fox news's on the record, sharon burton says the shooting went on for 20 - 25 mins.. so this new interview blows the whole 'he shot through the door' theory out the window..

see it here..



Thread: On The Record Interview with Sharon Burton Sandy Hook Teacher Survivor blows timeline out of the water
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this video is the only video of an interview where the person is telling the truth.

the only one so far!

the rest are actors!
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IDK if she is telling the truth or not but more believable than the others. Except the one video with the mother that took her son something he left at home. She tells of the black hatchback all doors open black sweatshirts strewn around it. From a photo you can at least see for sure 2 black sweatshirts by the car. She says the school was eerily silent. Then she heard gunfire and ran towards safety. There was never a mention in her video of every seeing police cars at the school. ???
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Don't forget Gene Rosen (as much as he may be a liar) was saying a BUS DRIVER was with the group of kids who showed up at his house. That always struck me as odd since they should just drop the kids off and drive to wherever they stay through the rest of the day... How did she end up staying long enough to be there for evacuations?

Makes ya think..
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HE COULDNT HAVE BEEN
HE WAS ALREADY DEAD

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The first call came into the dispatch at around 9:35, not 9:30. I still can't figure out if Lanza shot himself in or was let in in disguise.
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The first call came into the dispatch at around 9:35, not 9:30. I still can't figure out if Lanza shot himself in or was let in in disguise.
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Wrong. This is one of those incorrect statements... The OFFICIAL time of the 911 call was 9.30am..

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STATE OF CONNECTICUT
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December 15, 2012


STATE POLICE INVESTIGATE NEWTOWN SCHOOL SHOOTING

On 12/14/12, at approximately 9:30 a.m., Newtown Police received a 911 call reporting a possible shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School located at 12 Dickenson Drive in Newtown. Newtown Officers immediately responded and requested assistance from Connecticut State Police. Ssurrounding police agencies also sent assistance to the scene. Troopers, both on-duty and off-duty, responded to the scene.
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"The families have requested no press interviews and we are asking that this request be honored."

But a few still wanted to talk to CNN, huh? Hmmmm
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Police say they got their first call at 9:30 yet radio traffic didn't have the first call until 9:35. Why the intentional discrepancy?
Witnesses on Sunnyview across from the fire house heard shots, saw kids running, THEN the police came. It's 400 yards from the school entrance to Rosen's house so I must have taken 2 minutes or so for these kids to get there.
This means the survivors from Ms Soto's room were already gone for 2 or 3 minutes before police arrived. Soto's room was supposedly the LAST place shot up which would throw the actual shooting timeline even further back (as much as 5 minutes).
If the school did lockdown everyday at 9:30 then indeed the killer(s) were in the school 5 - 10 minutes before then.
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Could children still be arriving at the school via bus system when the gunman(men) started shooting?

Otherwise, how would the bus driver Gene Rosen described still be around later on when he said he saw him?

Or was that little detail about bus driver part of his fabricated story?
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Nobody else has any thoughts on this..

...Bueller?
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Police say they got their first call at 9:30 yet radio traffic didn't have the first call until 9:35. Why the intentional discrepancy?
Witnesses on Sunnyview across from the fire house heard shots, saw kids running, THEN the police came. It's 400 yards from the school entrance to Rosen's house so I must have taken 2 minutes or so for these kids to get there.
This means the survivors from Ms Soto's room were already gone for 2 or 3 minutes before police arrived. Soto's room was supposedly the LAST place shot up which would throw the actual shooting timeline even further back (as much as 5 minutes).
If the school did lockdown everyday at 9:30 then indeed the killer(s) were in the school 5 - 10 minutes before then.
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The timeline also has the shooting stopping at 9:38 (police present at the school)...the two shadows OUTSIDE heading towards the woods at 9:39...one or more shots fired at ~9:46 (presumably kiling 'Adam Lanza').

Keep in mind that the school's doors were closed 'around' 9:30 every day...it was not a precisely-timed nor strictly-adhered-to schedule.
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A skinny 20-year, 120-pounder with Asperger's was not even involved in the shooting incident. He was pure patsy who died the day before.

That's why Barbara Sibley saw FOUR card doors open and SWEATERS (plural) strewn around the car when she pulled up.
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