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Traffic Light Cameras, your thoughts please

 
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01/20/2013 11:18 PM
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Traffic cameras make excellent shooting targets. I've destroyed almost a hundred of them all over Texas.
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01/20/2013 11:25 PM
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Goal is Fear , obedience Fear = OBEY
repeat wash fucking repeat
now just OBEY
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I'm a police officer of almost ten years. We recently outfitted several busy intersections in my city with these big brother cameras. I am TOTALLY against this. Each city, including mine, has said that "safety" is their main concern. Reeaaally??? As a patrol officer I can tell you that these are the most unsafe technological contraptions yet!

First off, you're approaching the intersection where cameras are in place (there are signs everywhere informing drivers). All of the sudden you realize your probably not going to make it through before the red light. So you slam on your brakes causing 3-4 cars behind you to crash into eachother. I've seen it.

Secondly, these cameras have bright flashes that go off whenever a photo is snapped. These literally blind you for several seconds. The first time I saw one of these go off at night I had to sit for a few seconds before I could drive. Yep, "safety" is a concern, lets blind drivers!

Finally, as an officer I am required to prove a driver actually committed the offense I cite them for. Which means that I have to witness a vehicle commit a violation, stop the vehicle in question, and make contact with the driver. If I cannot prove that the driver committed an offense, in my presence, then I have no justification for a citation. It would be like me stopping a vehicle just for the hell of it and issuing a citation for speeding. "But Officer.....", "Now I know you weren't speeding just now but I'm pretty sure you have exceeded the speed limit at some point today." These cameras are a complete violation of law!!

The local governments installing these are using "safety" as a crutch for extra money. Even though most cities are having to take them down because they cost more to maintain then the department actually makes back!! Sorry for the rant but I feel very strongly about this. Thoughts anyone?
 Quoting: Leo Kessler




I live in a small town, an these traffic cameras were recently installed here, as well. I was wondering how long it would be, before this BULLSHIT found it's way here.

I feel like this "government" is so far out of control, and is NOTHING like the founders intended for America. They are tightening the screws, one turn at a time. Only now, they tighten the screws every day, instead of every year.

When are people ever going to say ENOUGH?
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03/30/2013 03:33 PM
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I'm a police officer of almost ten years. We recently outfitted several busy intersections in my city with these big brother cameras. I am TOTALLY against this. Each city, including mine, has said that "safety" is their main concern. Reeaaally??? As a patrol officer I can tell you that these are the most unsafe technological contraptions yet!

First off, you're approaching the intersection where cameras are in place (there are signs everywhere informing drivers). All of the sudden you realize your probably not going to make it through before the red light. So you slam on your brakes causing 3-4 cars behind you to crash into eachother. I've seen it.

Secondly, these cameras have bright flashes that go off whenever a photo is snapped. These literally blind you for several seconds. The first time I saw one of these go off at night I had to sit for a few seconds before I could drive. Yep, "safety" is a concern, lets blind drivers!

Finally, as an officer I am required to prove a driver actually committed the offense I cite them for. Which means that I have to witness a vehicle commit a violation, stop the vehicle in question, and make contact with the driver. If I cannot prove that the driver committed an offense, in my presence, then I have no justification for a citation. It would be like me stopping a vehicle just for the hell of it and issuing a citation for speeding. "But Officer.....", "Now I know you weren't speeding just now but I'm pretty sure you have exceeded the speed limit at some point today." These cameras are a complete violation of law!!

The local governments installing these are using "safety" as a crutch for extra money. Even though most cities are having to take them down because they cost more to maintain then the department actually makes back!! Sorry for the rant but I feel very strongly about this. Thoughts anyone?
 Quoting: Leo Kessler




I live in a small town, an these traffic cameras were recently installed here, as well. I was wondering how long it would be, before this BULLSHIT found it's way here.

I feel like this "government" is so far out of control, and is NOTHING like the founders intended for America. They are tightening the screws, one turn at a time. Only now, they tighten the screws every day, instead of every year.

When are people ever going to say ENOUGH?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36697224


Most people are saying "ENOUGH", we just arent doing anything. We need to start taking a stand. I'm not advocating violence but it has to start small. One town says we arent paying any more taxes which leads to a whole state. Thats what needs to happen. WE outnumber THEM!
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03/30/2013 03:45 PM
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OP: you may want to take a look at what has happened here in the UK. For many years traffic light, speed, bus lane, box junction and other enforcement cameras have been seemingly breeding like rabbits. When driving through places like London you even have to contend with congestion charge zone cameras, parking enforcement cameras and trucks are monitored by emission zone cameras (and on motorways all over the UK you get 'average speed check' cameras). Anyway, where I am in the West Midlands they have actually started decommissioning cameras now. They say it is because they were expensive to convert them all from the old wet film ones to digital (yes, we have had them long enough for many to be wet film), but judging by the number that have been burnt, shot up, covered in paint, torn down or generally smashed up, and when you consider the level of resentment they have caused to build up against the police (I always respected the police, but the scourge of traffic cameras changed all that), I think the real reason is that the police know they have done a lot of damage.

So if the police where you are want to end up alienating the entire population and pissing everyone off, plus wasting money replacing the cameras that are targeted by the said pissed people, then more cameras are great.
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03/30/2013 03:48 PM
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These are for REVENUE GENERATION period! Citizen should destroy them at every opportuntity.
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I'm with you. They are over the top. Tear them down.





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