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Message Subject Abortion is murder. Period.
Poster Handle Don'tBeAfraid
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no murder is the lact of unlawfull killing.

abortion is killing or terminating a life, yes, but it is not murder by definition, until the law makes it illegal.

get it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32720564

Is that Man's definition in the UK, or is that God's definition in the Bible?

Which has higher authority? What do you think?
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid

that is mans definition of mans word murder.

if the OP said abortion is killing.. who could argue with that?

but since OP chose a word that means 'unlawful killing' then by the definition alone thats all that matters

in other words its a type of killing that does not have a legal penalty associated with it.

now as far as in gods eye etc, well sure we can all speculate what 'god' would thinks, but i know one thing for sure you dont know what 'god' thinks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32723779

You are well spoken. Not a Christian by the use of the lowercase. You don't believe in God's authority.

Let's look at the legal definition of murder. That's not my choice for the title, but let me defend it.

Murder:The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse.
[link to legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com]

That's the broad definition. It will vary based nations.

Abortion is legal. What that means is that it's allowed by law. Therefore by Man's law in some nations (have to be provisional) then it's allowed to be performed under strict rules within a nation.

Murder by definition happens when there's intent. Some killing is justifiable if there's a reason. For example, in my country (USA) self-defense because a person was in fear for his/her life.

A soldier might kill an enemy and under certain rules during war, that's not considered murder, but could be murder if he/she used an intent that wasn't justified.

Should abortion be legal? I cannot speak to English common law. In the USA, abortion is legal but that is only because the Supreme Court decided that a fetus isn't a human being.

How is it in the UK?

In the USA, natural rights are a major cornerstone of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I would imagine that natural rights are also an essental aspect of British Common Law.

Natural Rights are given at birth. That's the sticky widget.
When does birth happen? Is it at conception or vaginal or Caesaerean section birth?

You have to decide what that mom is carrying. Is it a human? If it is, no matter if it is a fetus (foetus I think you spell it in England) then that human inside of her has natural rights.

The Courts may decide it doesn't. They may decide that it isn't human. Of course it is. It's squinting at gnats and swallowing a camel.

If a fetus is a human when conception happens it has natural rights. It can't protect it's rights.

Does that mean abortion shouldn't be legal? Perhaps. Maybe the only reason to have abortion is to use it in very rare circumstances. Maybe abortion is a legal remedy for the hardness of hearts of Humanity?

What will God decide? Imagine you are the Supreme Being, the Creator of All Life. Will you say, that that fetus isn't alive and human? I doubt it.
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