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Message Subject Abortion is murder. Period.
Poster Handle Don'tBeAfraid
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Is it easy to kill a fetus because it's small and insignificant?

Some people like to pretend that a fetus is just some cells or tissue and hence not important, incapable of feeling pain, and so it doesn't matter what we do to it?

First, do YOU believe that? I bet you don't

 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid



You "believe" that fetuses in the first few weeks can think and can experience pain?

What evidence do you have for this? There is plenty of evidence against it.

It isn't a matter of "belief" it is a simple matter of "fact".

Also what is your opinion on the morning after pill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089462


Read the whole statement. We don't know if a baby can feel pain or not, because the only good way would be extensive tests that would be so repellent and barbaric that no one could ethically do them. And yet we abort them in horrendous ways. Quite a conundrum, isn't it?

The only sticky part between us is pain sensation. You can't disagree with the first part.

The neural tube, the formation of brain and spinal cord happens very early by 4 weeks.

The potential for pain sensation happens very early.

EDIT: Information from this year asserts that a baby feels pain as early as 20 weeks or 4.6 months.
[link to www.lifenews.com]
[link to judiciary.house.gov]
Dr Mallot testified that:
"There is ample biologic, physiologic, hormonal, and behavioral evidence for fetal and neonatal pain. As early as 8 weeks post- fertilization, face skin receptors appear. At 14 weeks, sensory fibers grow into the spinal cord and connect with the thalamus. At 13-16 weeks, monoamine fibers reach the cerebral cortex, so that by 17-20 weeks the thalamo- cortical relays penetrate the cortex. Many authors have substantiated that pain receptors are present and linked by no later than 20 weeks post-fertilization.
(Myers 2004; Derbyshire 2010; Anand 1987; Vanhalto 2000; Brusseau 2008; VanScheltema 2008)
. In fact, by 20 weeks post-fertilization (22 weeks by LMP), the fetal brain has the full complement of neurons that are present in adulthood (Lagercrantz H et al. Functional development of the brain in fetus and infant. Lakartidningan 1991;88:1880-85)"


All abortion is abhorrent, but I think we need to have safe ways for an abortion to take place. Otherwise terrible herbal ways of creating a miscarriage will take place. Those can cause infertility and death from bleeding out (hemorrhaging).

The only gap in Holy Scripture is about a child in the womb before one month. Read back for a discussion by me about that.

Therefore the safest way today is the morning after pill. No method is good. I dislike it completely as a medical procedure. However we need solutions and compromise.
 
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