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Your comprehensive answer to every Sandy Hook conspiracy theory

 
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While it’s often best not to engage with conspiracy theorists on their own turf, as you can probably never convince them, it’s worth setting the record straight on all the myths and phony evidence surrounding the Sandy Hook massacre.

We’ve rounded up every major piece of evidence we could find that leads theorists to say the “official narrative” of events “doesn’t add up” and provided the facts that show why these questions can be easily explained. We’ve ignored the empty accusations with no evidence to support them (it was the Jews!) and focused only on the theories that try to present actual empirical or circumstantial evidence.

Let us know if we missed any and we’ll add to it as more myths emerge. In no particular order, here is your comprehensive guide to disproving the Sandy Hook Truthers:

Why aren’t the adults sadder? “They aren’t behaving the way human beings would act,” as conspiracy theorist Jay Weidner told fellow conspiracy theorist Jeff Rense on his radio show. Theorists have zeroed in on Robbie Parker, who they say wasn’t grieving hard enough for his slain 6-year-old daughter, Emilie. In one widely circulated clip, Parker laughs before stepping up to the microphone, and apparently someone says “read from the card” (as in cue card) before Parker breathes heavily in anticipation of beginning a press conference. “This is what actors do to get into character,” one popular YouTube video states. Rense and Weidner also take issue with the mourning of the school nurse, the family of slain teacher Victoria Soto, and others. “ALL ACTORS??? NO TEARS,” wonders the author of SandyHookHoax.com on a page featuring videos with numerous interviews from the shooting.

Answer: People mourn in many different ways, sometimes all at once. As a recent Scientific American article on gref noted, “oscillation between sadness and mirth repeated itself in study after study … Time and again, a grief-stricken person’s expression would change from dejection to laughter and back.” George Bonanno, a psychologist at Columbia University who studies grief, even developed a way to determine if this mourner’s laughter was genuine or merely a facade to hide grief — he determined that they “exhibited the real thing.” Scientists think this is part of our internal resilience mechanisms kicking in, because constant grief is simply too much for a person to handle.

What about Emilie? One of the most common myths circulated on message boards and in YouTube videos is that Emilie Parker is actually alive. The “proof” is a photo purportedly showing her with President Obama when he visited the school after the shooting. Conspiracists know it’s Emilie because she’s wearing the same dress as the one Emilie wore in a family portrait taken before the shooting (an alternative theory is that the girl in the photo with Obama is her “double”). Other websites take issue with the family portrait, alleging it was Photoshopped for some reason, pointing to the fact that the Emilie is making a “devil’s horns” sign with her hands and “making the devil’s horn hand sign isn’t easy. Try it yourself. Imagine getting a 3- and 4-year-old do it.”

Answer: The girl on Obama’s lap is Emilie’s little sister. It’s amazing that we have to say this, but sometimes younger siblings wear clothes passed down to them from older siblings, and sometimes siblings look alike because they are siblings. And there’s no evidence or even motive given for why the portrait would be Photoshopped. Making a “devil’s horn” gesture is actually incredibly easy. Try it yourself.

Why do they all look the same? Numerous websites juxtapose pictures of people from Newtown against pictures of similar looking people from Aurora, Colo., and assert they are the same actors.

Answer: Not all women with brown hair are the same person.
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There are more holes in the Salon article than swiss cheese.

What about the school nurse?
What about Lanza'a mother 'the kindergarten teacher'
What about CCTV footage?
What about the concussion, hearing loss, and disorientation from 165 decibels from each shot?
What about the missing photos/videos of fleeing kids?
What about Lanza, to fire hundreds of rounds, needing to carry in excess of his own body weight of ammo?

That is for starters.

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Debunking the bits that are soft and debunkable, skipping the tough chewy ones. Like picking through a chocolate box...
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First of all. Children did die that day.

I don't see a conspiracy. What I do see is a total lack of information from the media cartels. They made things up as they went along reporting it. Even the state news of CT made thing's up. The WHOLE issue is the misinformation and disinformation the media has put forth surrounding Sandy Hook.

If there is a conspiracy it was made and brought to you by your trusted media cartel.
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Debunking the bits that are soft and debunkable, skipping the tough chewy ones. Like picking through a chocolate box...
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No, the problem is that the conspiracy theories keep on coming up with more and more crap. However, they started with the "soft and debunkable" ones and yet when those are debunked, the morons have gone on to new lunacy and don't care. They don't care about truth.
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While it’s often best not to engage with conspiracy theorists on their own turf, as you can probably never convince them,
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I actually considered the whole "people grieve in different ways" thing for Robbie Parker. Or that maybe he took some sort of anti-anxiety medication (which wouldn't be too odd). But, it's the fact he deliberately changes his whole demeanor in a couple of seconds. If he was just grieving in his own way, that doesn't exactly fit.

However, ALL THIS MEANS is Robbie Parker is acting a bit off. I don't know why. It doesn't mean he's ALWAYS like this. I don't know him. I don't really think he's necessarily as big a part of things as some other people do.

The dress shared by two sisters: I don't think it is important. I can see why it initially confused some people. But, yes, I get it. It's Madeline, not Emilie.

I don't really think that these are the most important things. But, I'll give you 1 1/2.
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I actually considered the whole "people grieve in different ways" thing for Robbie Parker. Or that maybe he took some sort of anti-anxiety medication (which wouldn't be too odd). But, it's the fact he deliberately changes his whole demeanor in a couple of seconds. If he was just grieving in his own way, that doesn't exactly fit.

However, ALL THIS MEANS is Robbie Parker is acting a bit off. I don't know why. It doesn't mean he's ALWAYS like this. I don't know him. I don't really think he's necessarily as big a part of things as some other people do.

The dress shared by two sisters: I don't think it is important. I can see why it initially confused some people. But, yes, I get it. It's Madeline, not Emilie.

I don't really think that these are the most important things. But, I'll give you 1 1/2.
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"These aren't the most important things" because now we are into new crazy theories. But you have to understand these are the shit stains which got the conspiracy theorists going. And like all conspiracy theorists who believe without evidence, you debunk one thing and they come back like a hydra, with two more shit stains to deal with. They don't think reasonably, nor care that the reason why they originally believed shit is something they don't believe, the next evidence (however silly) is the "real proof." It never ends.
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some people are too brainwashed and naive or part of the SANDY HOOK CONSPIRACY. Nothing to discuss about it.

enlighten yourself.

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some people are too brainwashed and naive or part of the SANDY HOOK CONSPIRACY. Nothing to discuss about it.

enlighten yourself.


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Typical true believer...

Got to love it. They throw the same videos everyone has seen many times and call anyone questioning them as stupid. They want us to question only one side, but not their own. Typical moron.
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some people are too brainwashed and naive or part of the SANDY HOOK CONSPIRACY. Nothing to discuss about it.

enlighten yourself.


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Typical true believer...

Got to love it. They throw the same videos everyone has seen many times and call anyone questioning them as stupid. They want us to question only one side, but not their own. Typical moron.
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If you are looking for a moron, don't go that far,look at the closest mirror that you find.

and Why would I question people who is trying to find out what happens behind this story? I question who holds the media and power over ordinary people. Nothing wrong about it. You have no idea who to question because you believe everything that you hear from fucking mainstream media.

I will not argue with you anymore. Bye moron puppet.
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some people are too brainwashed and naive or part of the SANDY HOOK CONSPIRACY. Nothing to discuss about it.

enlighten yourself.


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Typical true believer...

Got to love it. They throw the same videos everyone has seen many times and call anyone questioning them as stupid. They want us to question only one side, but not their own. Typical moron.
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If you are looking for a moron, don't go that far,look at the closest mirror that you find.

and Why would I question people who is trying to find out what happens behind this story? I question who holds the media and power over ordinary people. Nothing wrong about it. You have no idea who to question because you believe everything that you hear from fucking mainstream media.

I will not argue with you anymore. Bye moron puppet.
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So you don't question your side. You prove it. "Why would I question people who is trying to find out what happens behind this story?" Well, if you were smart, you would figure this out. They have all kinds of agendas, and many opportunists will take tragedy as a means of scamming people like you for the sake of their agenda. You confuse their questions as searching for truth. Clearly you are not searching for truth, but already believe in a truth and look for confirmation bias. QED. You are a moron and not into truth.
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Let's see the FACTS

watch FAGGOTS.




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Let's see the FACTS

watch FAGGOTS.





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Ah there you go, confusing claims as facts. You didn't even watch the videos showing what is flawed with these. Seriously, people, you are just closed minded. You call conspiracy while things are happening, and won't think things through logically. The denial of reality is bad with conspiracy theorists -- they think they are awake, but can't even make logical arguments (and if people question them, they get all up in rage -- only they are allowed to question!)
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"Don't question our conspiracy theories... only we can question..."
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"Don't question our conspiracy theories... only we can question..."
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THOSE ARE NOT FUCKING THEORY YOU RETARD. FACTS. and I NEVER USED THAT KIND OF SENTENCE LIKE "Don't question our conspiracy theories... only we can question..."

BE AN INDEPEDENT PERSON AND DONT BE THE ADVOCATE OF POWER OWNERS.

I DOUBT YOU ARE THAT SMART TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU READ.

GO FUCK YOURSELF.
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"Don't question our conspiracy theories... only we can question..."
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THOSE ARE NOT FUCKING THEORY YOU RETARD. FACTS. and I NEVER USED THAT KIND OF SENTENCE LIKE "Don't question our conspiracy theories... only we can question..."

BE AN INDEPEDENT PERSON AND DONT BE THE ADVOCATE OF POWER OWNERS.

I DOUBT YOU ARE THAT SMART TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU READ.

GO FUCK YOURSELF.

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You are advocating "power owners," people who are trying to use conspiracy theories for their own power. This is exactly the way Lenin worked. Or the French Revolution. Seriously, you are not that smart... you keep acting like only one side can be or should be questioned, and that is the mindset of a cult.. and cult leader..
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Just simply reply:

I am a sheep, I have not accepted that fact yet that my gov is a bankster corporate illuminati NWO scum. I will continue to get vaccines, flu shots, vote, pay my taxes, eat GMO, drink fluoride and bend over when the gov asks me at any moment.

I am a coward, I am a moran.

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Just simply reply:

I am a sheep, I have not accepted that fact yet that my gov is a bankster corporate illuminati NWO scum. I will continue to get vaccines, flu shots, vote, pay my taxes, eat GMO, drink fluoride and bend over when the gov asks me at any moment.

I am a coward, I am a moran.

:4353:
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Here we go with the typical cult-like response. It's all or nothing. If you don't agree with one conspiracy theory you believe everything! Wow! This is typical of the true believer of a religious cult nothing else.
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Just simply reply:

I am a sheep, I have not accepted that fact yet that my gov is a bankster corporate illuminati NWO scum. I will continue to get vaccines, flu shots, vote, pay my taxes, eat GMO, drink fluoride and bend over when the gov asks me at any moment.

I am a coward, I am a moran.

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Here we go with the typical cult-like response. It's all or nothing. If you don't agree with one conspiracy theory you believe everything! Wow! This is typical of the true believer of a religious cult nothing else.
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No, it's a matter if you're a brainwashed cunt is all.



Guess where you fall?


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Debunking the bits that are soft and debunkable, skipping the tough chewy ones. Like picking through a chocolate box...
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


Yep. Exactly. I posted this article yesterday along w/ a another article that called the conspiracy 'sickening' but debunked nothing.
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