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Preparation for MASSIVE civil war...

 
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Too much here to even try to outline. It's easier to just watch the first 30 seconds and decide if this is something that will benefit you.

I've been reading GLP for about 2 years now and still, even had a few OMG moments during this video.

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That was very well put together.
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No civil war really needed.

Half of you are waiting for Jesus to return and smite everyone you don't like or who thinks differently.


The other half of you won't give a shit, because there are TV snacks on your laps, and your brains are watching some pathetic reality show.


The remaining noise and trouble makers, ie people on forums like GLP, will be the first to be rounded up.
 Quoting: InCogNeatOh


No offense. Here is the problem with that last paragraph:
So far there has been zero noise or troublemakers, this is all being done passively. Nobody's going to be 'rounded up' in a landmass the size of the u.s..
Which also makes it nearly impossible to organize against a phantom-like ghostly systematic sabotaging rogue entity like the pack of jackals in d.c..

I have yet to hear anything named particularly as a strategy.
Because friends, there isn't one, and the presses continue to roll out greater hallucinations.

Instead we get patriotic stiffys with little flags waving on the end. To what ends I ask. What happens after the psychological stimulation that goes nowhere.
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You want strategy, think of flash mobs.... But instead replace it with flash militia. Strike and then vanish like a ninja and blend in to the crowd. Civil unrest could cause revolution or civil war but it will never be conventional. It will be fought non-conventionally just like in the revolutionary war.
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War on developed soil is never imminent.

Development necessitates war, not the other way around.

Once developed, one must defend against those who do not understand development.

This can be done through a) guns or b) welfare.

There is some reason that there is an intention to reduce welfare temporarily. The real reason I do not know, but I can guess that there are certain agenda items that cannot be pushed forward without some kind of real civilian threat to the long-term order.

One possibility is to remove the rights of states immediately (as if those matter anyway) and only have the federal government. This makes sense because the concept of National versus State is outdated in our current environment. It is not Mississippi versus New York anymore. It is USA versus world. Therefore, states rights are only holding back the ability of our nation to compete in this increasingly competitive world.

Another iteration of this is a true national ID system. You can implement this by making a national welfare card. Then you have 50% of the population with national ID cards. After this is implemented, you can slowly erode the idea of "states rights" as a fringe element, which they really are at this point. It is a bunch of people who are still stuck in a 1910 mode of thinking. People who are pro states rights are only that way because it suits their point of view. This viewpoint is unacceptable going forward, however, because we need to make quicker and quicker decisions and cannot have people with grandfathered rights holding the system hostage. A national ID card would remove one of the states' last real rights: to control ID databases. Combine that with removal of Medicaid control and welfare control, and states become quite literally an extension of the national government because the leaders depend on welfare votes to get elected (ie they must be compliant with national or they will not get enough welfare and their constituents will unelect them).

The only thing holding back the removal of states rights is that states righters have large amounts of automatic weapons. That is why I believe this whole shabang is not about the collapse of the US government, the dollar, or even destruction of the welfare state.

This is about formalizing what has been known to be true for many years: states are completely dependent on the Federal government. Example? Interstate repair funds. Federal government has dictated that the drinking age needs to be 21. Anyone who listened got money, anyone who didn't received nothing. Gradually, all 50 states changed to age 21.

Federal is tired of having to bribe state officials to push through anything. It is tired of having corrupt state politicians who do not understand the realities of this world from blocking progress. State officials constantly pose roadblocks to national agendas and truly should be sidelined. And that is most likely the purpose of any type of welfare collapse.
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Who are you? You know how to think and am very interested to hear more. Much closer to what's really going on... I appreciate a person who doesn't dwell on personal opinion.

Points re development vs -ing, determinant for (internal) war I am unclear. Why not reorganization of a developed country being dismantled and remoulded as is happening here,
glad to hear you think guns are an obstacle and that welfare is a pacifier (to the millions who have lost livelihoods and homes) as a means to an end. There is a 60 month limit per lifetime I think.

Recall Michael Chertoff aka Skeletor's threats to 27 states and counting who wouldn't accept a National ID (nor the state financed cost of it) and he responded by saying we'll get back at you for that by withholding federal funds.
Then during Katrina gw removed state governance of the National Guard to the feds, first from FL.

Then we're noticing all the ways the feds are slowly turning state social decisions/preferences into a federal decision. ie., abortion and gay state decisions, they're creeping into these things and under our doors like a colorless gas (but there is definitely an odor). Then who is it Scalia dumping us with his personal subjective opinion on these state decisions which is not in his job description.
Then we have (shaky facts here) POTUS appointing regional governors trumping state governors who are now getting on their knees butt raised to the feds more and more, especially in the last 1 1/2yrs.. Big noticeable reorganization in Jan 2010.
I so love Vermont.

USA vs the world. Got occupation lies & bloodshed?
Gotta go but please stick around. Finally an actual discussion, lol :D
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One day, somebody's gonna have to make a stand...
One day, somebody's gonna say ENOUGH!
 Quoting: Botanator


That just so happens to be Jesus!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1202778


that's right!
Jesus is coming, and he's gonna kill everyone on the planet!
 Quoting: SkiBum


Bummer,

Actually Christ will PREVENT the destruction of all flesh...



These are The Final Moments.

America will suffer nuclear destruction and be removed from the world stage as a power. the man-of-sin will have a plan and lead the world.


satans minions are doing his bidding and that will be the destruction of all flesh... satan seeks to thwart God, destroy HIS Creation and make HIM out to be a liar...

Yet, for the very elect's sake the days will be shortened...
see matthew 24:21-24



Might want to read up on Nuclear War Survival Skills by Cresson Kearny. Free download at ki4u.com. Gone in one hour....


Lots of stuff happening on every level, but Christ and Father are The Only ONES that merit your Trust....
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This is about formalizing what has been known to be true for many years: states are completely dependent on the Federal government. Example? Interstate repair funds. Federal government has dictated that the drinking age needs to be 21. Anyone who listened got money, anyone who didn't received nothing. Gradually, all 50 states changed to age 21.

Federal is tired of having to bribe state officials to push through anything. It is tired of having corrupt state politicians who do not understand the realities of this world from blocking progress. State officials constantly pose roadblocks to national agendas and truly should be sidelined. And that is most likely the purpose of any type of welfare collapse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 366133


Who are you? You know how to think and am very interested to hear more. Much closer to what's really going on... I appreciate a person who doesn't dwell on personal opinion.

Points re development vs -ing, determinant for (internal) war I am unclear. Why not reorganization of a developed country being dismantled and remoulded as is happening here,
glad to hear you think guns are an obstacle and that welfare is a pacifier (to the millions who have lost livelihoods and homes) as a means to an end. There is a 60 month limit per lifetime I think.

Recall Michael Chertoff aka Skeletor's threats to 27 states and counting who wouldn't accept a National ID (nor the state financed cost of it) and he responded by saying we'll get back at you for that by withholding federal funds.
Then during Katrina gw removed state governance of the National Guard to the feds, first from FL.

Then we're noticing all the ways the feds are slowly turning state social decisions/preferences into a federal decision. ie., abortion and gay state decisions, they're creeping into these things and under our doors like a colorless gas (but there is definitely an odor). Then who is it Scalia dumping us with his personal subjective opinion on these state decisions which is not in his job description.
Then we have (shaky facts here) POTUS appointing regional governors trumping state governors who are now getting on their knees butt raised to the feds more and more, especially in the last 1 1/2yrs.. Big noticeable reorganization in Jan 2010.
I so love Vermont.

USA vs the world. Got occupation lies & bloodshed?
Gotta go but please stick around. Finally an actual discussion, lol :D
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213681


...So why do you say they should be sidelined (states).
That is a disturbing statement to most of us, and can't help but ask why you think this is desirable. I would like to hear what you have to say without attacking you because I want to hear it.
I can see how National Health is a tool to that end because after 3 years the cost will be dumped on the states and off the feds. Quite telling how costs are being shuffled back & forth between state & fed coffers in a number of ways.

And I see signs to isolate states from one another ie., checkpoints and the TSA to intimidate travel by air, car, truck then train (funding) and bus which also receives fed funding.

It always begins with experimentation in scrubbing the faces off national identities like the PIIGS countries pentagon of inter-dependent borrowing to ruin. Cheap labor honey.

It all looks corporate to the onlooker, you know corporate and not gov't rule. Just today O removed another limit to corps trashing the environment with more emissions and more deaths and asthma..cheap nat discount gas exported to geld certain countries..destroying life and health from all sides...

You know I don't have a gun, but it is looking more attractive to have one.

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I am truly tired of hearing how the dollar will collapse. That is just as bad as saying nothing at all is happening. Both are incorrect and are extreme points of view, which indicate that the correct answer is somewhere in the middle.

The only way to distort the truth is by polarizing people. Therefore, a complete currency collapse is just a tactic used to confuse you. How can I say this with such certainty?

BECAUSE A CURRENCY COLLAPSE MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO DO. There would just be another paper dollar in its place. Why put the rich of a country in a panic? You need the rich because they are the ones who develop ideas. The poor don't have the resources or the brain power.

Globalists thrive on using the best ideas and technologies. How can they have good ideas without a stable society? They cannot. That is why I can tell you the idea that there will be generalized tyranny does not make sense. We need the illusion of a free society in order to have new ideas propagate. You cannot have a plutotechnocracy thrive without NEW TECHNOLOGY DEVELOPMENT.




Moreover, all the people in charge do not have their money in gold. That would be fucking retarded, which is why half of america is doing it. They THINK they are following the rich, but really they are just following the rest of the poor into the poor house. The rich have their money in assets that are denominated in American Dollars or are reliant on American credit markets/military power for their value. When our entire value system is based on faith, why replace it with another faith-based system?

To actually destroy the beautiful system (Federal Reserve) created over the past 100 years is ludicrous, especially when it will be replaced by the same exact system. There is NO other way to solve the solution of machines doing more and more work for us other than a system that is inflationary. The economy will truly seize if you have a currency that is stable or deflates because whoever can win the war of currency attrition will have 100% of the resources.





Now, there will be a collapse of a certain kind of dollar. The government spending dollar will be collapsed temporarily until the poor formally recognize the new order. The order already exists, just in the shadows because people are still delusional enough to believe in any piece of paper (even the constitution). The government knows it cannot stop welfare without having a huge riot situation, so it is prepared through the DHS. Once the poor are compliant, the welfare flows will begin again.

There is not going to be a collapse of the United States itself, just a collapse until the new order is agreed upon. Then everything will be the way it was. I personally believe the new order will consist of the rich's spending funding welfare (VAT), which is the only system that can last indefinitely. In this manner you do not hurt investment, while keeping the hoi polloi at bay.

THE GOAL IS TO CREATE A PERMANENT SYSTEM OF GLOBAL GOVERNANCE THAT WORKS, NOT DESTROY EVERYTHING AND REBUILD IT, WHICH IS WHAT A CURRENCY COLLAPSE WOULD DO.





Furthermore, there is no massive global depopulation agenda in terms of killing 5 billion people instantaneously. It is a long-term country-by-country project that is controlled through resources and substances. Example: China develops more, gets more resources to fund that development, people start acting more and more like a developed country, and BAM depopulation. In the meantime, the Chinese are encouraged to smoke, eat food with GS inhibitors, drink water with GS inhibitors, anything to make sure our resources are not drained in the process of growing a country.

You don't need to start a world war when people will slowly depopulate themselves by the natural progression of society. See: EVERY DEVELOPED COUNTRY. In the meantime, you need to make sure that there is proper birth/death rates to ensure that a country get to the point that it can be developed.

I predict in about 30 years you will suddenly find out in richer countries that all of the things we thought were safe are not and that you shorten your life through GS inhibition. Moreover, for people with polyglutamine disorders that supplement early on, you will find that they are the ones chosen to be in power because they are more evolved than the rest of the population. Quite literally because their DNA is different in a profound way.

That is where the final chapter in this story happens. Only the rich, powerful, and those at the top will be afford to afford to supplement because supplies will be tightly controlled.

My goal is to become the one who controls the supply with those at the top, instead of complaining for pages and pages that the USA is collapsing blah blah.

You are all misled and yet you will read this post and say "hes an idiot." And that is that beauty of America. FREE CHOICE PROPAGANDA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 366133

A collapse is necessary to get a workable system for a New World Order. The system can not survive in its present form, for more than 5 more years, before it self destructs.
There are to many welfare people in the industrial nations, not enough industry to support them with jobs, to many overpopulated "poor" nations to feed and care for.
There is not enough money in the whole world to solve these problems.
A major world population reduction, or "purge" is therefore necessary.
Then the new system can be rolled out.
Anyone with a brain can see that.
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So now you have once again distracted people. You guys are good. Or maybe people are stupid. Or a combination.

You can't fool me. Money is made up by governments. I think what you were looking for was "resources." At any one time, there are not enough resources developed and produced to feed/cloth/etc a whole new population. This is why development is happening country-by-country, and not all at once. If it happened all at once, there wouldn't be enough resources to go around.

By first allowing the USA and Europe to develop, then those countries diverting resources to China, you can have your cake and eat it too.
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Without money there are no resources. Nobody will work to provide"free" resources very long.
As far as a VAT tax, it hurts everybody, It will only serve to make the poor poorer and destroy the middle class. That is its purpose.
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More than 7 days of food makes you a terrorist??? Didn't any of these goons have GRANDMOTHERS who did canning and stockpile food "just in case"? What the fuck is wrong with these people??????????????
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You cannot control the law abiding. They have to turn us all into criminals so they can manage our lives.
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More than 7 days of food makes you a terrorist??? Didn't any of these goons have GRANDMOTHERS who did canning and stockpile food "just in case"? What the fuck is wrong with these people??????????????
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You cannot control the law abiding. They have to turn us all into criminals so they can manage our lives.
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No. To perceive yourself as criminal. Like YOU with an unconscious belief that by getting by are committing a wrong. Big difference.

Just one Mindf**k in a host of them.
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when the lady was talking about words that DHS scans for when reading our email, i couldnt help to pause it and stare at the screen for a while...

2 words jumped out...


DRILL
EXERCISE


all the major events are always linked to these 2 words
with sandy hooks so fresh in our minds, could this be a clue?

for the life of me i cant figure out why these 2 words would ring alarms at DHS.

until you start connecting the dots and realize they are listening for people who are getting close to revealing the truth.
 Quoting: jazzguy


Just think when you typed those two little words just now, you gave uncle janet a raging hard on and she called barry and told him to fire up his vibrator. He took it over to holder and they had a threesome and sent the pics to hillary so she could get billy motivated
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I am truly tired of hearing how the dollar will collapse. That is just as bad as saying nothing at all is happening. Both are incorrect and are extreme points of view, which indicate that the correct answer is somewhere in the middle.

The only way to distort the truth is by polarizing people. Therefore, a complete currency collapse is just a tactic used to confuse you. How can I say this with such certainty?

BECAUSE A CURRENCY COLLAPSE MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO DO. There would just be another paper dollar in its place. Why put the rich of a country in a panic? You need the rich because they are the ones who develop ideas. The poor don't have the resources or the brain power.

Globalists thrive on using the best ideas and technologies. How can they have good ideas without a stable society? They cannot. That is why I can tell you the idea that there will be generalized tyranny does not make sense. We need the illusion of a free society in order to have new ideas propagate. You cannot have a plutotechnocracy thrive without NEW TECHNOLOGY DEVELOPMENT.




Moreover, all the people in charge do not have their money in gold. That would be fucking retarded, which is why half of america is doing it. They THINK they are following the rich, but really they are just following the rest of the poor into the poor house. The rich have their money in assets that are denominated in American Dollars or are reliant on American credit markets/military power for their value. When our entire value system is based on faith, why replace it with another faith-based system?

To actually destroy the beautiful system (Federal Reserve) created over the past 100 years is ludicrous, especially when it will be replaced by the same exact system. There is NO other way to solve the solution of machines doing more and more work for us other than a system that is inflationary. The economy will truly seize if you have a currency that is stable or deflates because whoever can win the war of currency attrition will have 100% of the resources.





Now, there will be a collapse of a certain kind of dollar. The government spending dollar will be collapsed temporarily until the poor formally recognize the new order. The order already exists, just in the shadows because people are still delusional enough to believe in any piece of paper (even the constitution). The government knows it cannot stop welfare without having a huge riot situation, so it is prepared through the DHS. Once the poor are compliant, the welfare flows will begin again.

There is not going to be a collapse of the United States itself, just a collapse until the new order is agreed upon. Then everything will be the way it was. I personally believe the new order will consist of the rich's spending funding welfare (VAT), which is the only system that can last indefinitely. In this manner you do not hurt investment, while keeping the hoi polloi at bay.

THE GOAL IS TO CREATE A PERMANENT SYSTEM OF GLOBAL GOVERNANCE THAT WORKS, NOT DESTROY EVERYTHING AND REBUILD IT, WHICH IS WHAT A CURRENCY COLLAPSE WOULD DO.





Furthermore, there is no massive global depopulation agenda in terms of killing 5 billion people instantaneously. It is a long-term country-by-country project that is controlled through resources and substances. Example: China develops more, gets more resources to fund that development, people start acting more and more like a developed country, and BAM depopulation. In the meantime, the Chinese are encouraged to smoke, eat food with GS inhibitors, drink water with GS inhibitors, anything to make sure our resources are not drained in the process of growing a country.

You don't need to start a world war when people will slowly depopulate themselves by the natural progression of society. See: EVERY DEVELOPED COUNTRY. In the meantime, you need to make sure that there is proper birth/death rates to ensure that a country get to the point that it can be developed.

I predict in about 30 years you will suddenly find out in richer countries that all of the things we thought were safe are not and that you shorten your life through GS inhibition. Moreover, for people with polyglutamine disorders that supplement early on, you will find that they are the ones chosen to be in power because they are more evolved than the rest of the population. Quite literally because their DNA is different in a profound way.

That is where the final chapter in this story happens. Only the rich, powerful, and those at the top will be afford to afford to supplement because supplies will be tightly controlled.

My goal is to become the one who controls the supply with those at the top, instead of complaining for pages and pages that the USA is collapsing blah blah.

You are all misled and yet you will read this post and say "hes an idiot." And that is that beauty of America. FREE CHOICE PROPAGANDA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 366133

A collapse is necessary to get a workable system for a New World Order. The system can not survive in its present form, for more than 5 more years, before it self destructs.
There are to many welfare people in the industrial nations, not enough industry to support them with jobs, to many overpopulated "poor" nations to feed and care for.
There is not enough money in the whole world to solve these problems.
A major world population reduction, or "purge" is therefore necessary.
Then the new system can be rolled out.
Anyone with a brain can see that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31757303


So now you have once again distracted people. You guys are good. Or maybe people are stupid. Or a combination.

You can't fool me. Money is made up by governments. I think what you were looking for was "resources." At any one time, there are not enough resources developed and produced to feed/cloth/etc a whole new population. This is why development is happening country-by-country, and not all at once. If it happened all at once, there wouldn't be enough resources to go around.

By first allowing the USA and Europe to develop, then those countries diverting resources to China, you can have your cake and eat it too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 366133

Without money there are no resources. Nobody will work to provide "free" resources very long.
As far as a VAT tax, it hurts everybody, It will only serve to make the poor poorer and destroy the middle class. That is its purpose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31757303

Inequalities in standards of living, create WARS!
Drawing down the standards of living of one country to support others results in WAR also. This was part of the basis of Germany starting WW2.

The Chinese took people off the farms and moved them into the cities to work. Now there is little work and they refuse to return to the old standard of living,(poverty and farming).
If this is not resolved it will result in riots and possibly WAR. China has already been talking about expanding its borders by attacking its neighbors.
So slowly trying to increase the standard of living country by country will not work.

Printing money, causes inflation which only makes the problems worse. So creating money will not "solve" the amount of available resources problem.

Look at the current immigration problems. Europeans and Americans are starting to create a backlash against the immigrants. They are lowering the standards of living in these countries and creating cultural rifts.
This is only the start of the problems.

There is not enough food, medicine and other resources to properly feed all the third world nations at the same level as Industrial nations. Nor is there enough work to pay them a living wage similar to industrialized nations, to afford such things.
Or did you fail to notice the current unemployment problem in Europe and America? So how do you "employ" all the third world nations populations, without starting a WAR, economic or otherwise?
It can't be done!
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when the lady was talking about words that DHS scans for when reading our email, i couldnt help to pause it and stare at the screen for a while...

2 words jumped out...


DRILL
EXERCISE


all the major events are always linked to these 2 words
with sandy hooks so fresh in our minds, could this be a clue?

for the life of me i cant figure out why these 2 words would ring alarms at DHS.

until you start connecting the dots and realize they are listening for people who are getting close to revealing the truth.
 Quoting: jazzguy


Just think when you typed those two little words just now, you gave uncle janet a raging hard on and she called barry and told him to fire up his vibrator. He took it over to holder and they had a threesome and sent the pics to hillary so she could get billy motivated
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Well I think it's nonsense. Then get a thesaurus if it makes you feel better. All part of making you feel needlessly paranoid so you yourself do the work for them.
Nothing more.

By the way if you're not aware this is a plan unfolding in stages regardless of which party is in office..in 2016 more horrors await so don't spend yourself now. It isn't worth it or will it help you in any case.

Anybody at that level acting in our interests is slowly being picked off or hasn't anyone noticed. Either that or their dead for going too far.
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Funny how having more than seven days worth of food is a red flag.
Doesn't fema itself recommend having more than seven days of food in case of emergency?
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Since they want all of you gone, and abondoning your stuff for them to confiscate, they first need to create a condition where everyone with possessions is guilty.

If this wasnt bizzaro world, they'd be doing drug and illegal activities sweeps in the hood, and incarcerating those possessing illegal narcotics and drugs in the system, but they dont, they chase after those with money and property to forfeit.

They want your stuff, they dont want you there arguing about it or demanding return on your 'investments'
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sounds more like groups like the black hand that want us to live in fear at any cost
so we arnt as competitive and they can take our jobs away

you know people in serbia act all big shit when they have an american job

usa jobs are a trade comodity
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They're dead for going that far.
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No civil war really needed.

Half of you are waiting for Jesus to return and smite everyone you don't like or who thinks differently.


The other half of you won't give a shit, because there are TV snacks on your laps, and your brains are watching some pathetic reality show.


The remaining noise and trouble makers, ie people on forums like GLP, will be the first to be rounded up.
 Quoting: InCogNeatOh


No offense. Here is the problem with that last paragraph:
So far there has been zero noise or troublemakers, this is all being done passively. Nobody's going to be 'rounded up' in a landmass the size of the u.s..
Which also makes it nearly impossible to organize against a phantom-like ghostly systematic sabotaging rogue entity like the pack of jackals in d.c..

I have yet to hear anything named particularly as a strategy.
Because friends, there isn't one, and the presses continue to roll out greater hallucinations.

Instead we get patriotic stiffys with little flags waving on the end. To what ends I ask. What happens after the psychological stimulation that goes nowhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213681


You want strategy, think of flash mobs.... But instead replace it with flash militia. Strike and then vanish like a ninja and blend in to the crowd. Civil unrest could cause revolution or civil war but it will never be conventional. It will be fought non-conventionally just like in the revolutionary war.
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Best news I've heard in years :)

Why not create a bit of corporate fear. Quieter yet specific. You're not going to get far with a one-pronged approach.

See and already I see how conditioned we are to find such discussions elsewhere.
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Now I want to talk about division and petty politics.
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There will be no civil war.

Go back to bed.
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I would go back to bed, but your mom is in there with some black guy and I don't want to disturb them....
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Re: Preparation for MASSIVE civil war...
One day, somebody's gonna have to make a stand...
One day, somebody's gonna say ENOUGH!
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That just so happens to be Jesus!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1202778


that's right!
Jesus is coming, and he's gonna kill everyone on the planet!
 Quoting: SkiBum


Bummer,

Actually Christ will PREVENT the destruction of all flesh...



These are The Final Moments.

America will suffer nuclear destruction and be removed from the world stage as a power. the man-of-sin will have a plan and lead the world.


satans minions are doing his bidding and that will be the destruction of all flesh... satan seeks to thwart God, destroy HIS Creation and make HIM out to be a liar...

Yet, for the very elect's sake the days will be shortened...
see matthew 24:21-24



Might want to read up on Nuclear War Survival Skills by Cresson Kearny. Free download at ki4u.com. Gone in one hour....


Lots of stuff happening on every level, but Christ and Father are The Only ONES that merit your Trust....
 Quoting: Lester 32366084





I usually agree with most of your thoughts, Lester. So I am not attacking your here, brother.

But the USA is mentioned in scripture (although not by NAME obviously) as the "second beast" of Revelation 13. The two-horned beast that comes up from the earth, that looks like a lamb, but speaks (legislates) like a dragon.

Do a study on the "lamb-like" beast. you can find plenty of info about it on the net. This beast is the USA, and is the very power that causes (enforces) the Mark of the Beast.

The USA is not going to be destroyed as a world power, but will only INCREASE in power, eventually cause the whole world to move into a new cashless monetary system, after some MAJOR event that triggers MASS chaos.

Their "NWO" will emerge from the ashes of this chaos, along with their new monetary system. And with all that they have planned with Agenda 21, the very last thing they are going to permit, is a destruction of vast areas of the United States, by nuclear weapons.

I'm not saying that the United States will never be attacked by nuclear weapons, but I am saying that the United States is not going to be taken down from power, on the world stage.
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01/22/2013 02:38 AM
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Re: Preparation for MASSIVE civil war...
War on developed soil is never imminent.

Development necessitates war, not the other way around.

Once developed, one must defend against those who do not understand development.

This can be done through a) guns or b) welfare.

There is some reason that there is an intention to reduce welfare temporarily. The real reason I do not know, but I can guess that there are certain agenda items that cannot be pushed forward without some kind of real civilian threat to the long-term order.

One possibility is to remove the rights of states immediately (as if those matter anyway) and only have the federal government. This makes sense because the concept of National versus State is outdated in our current environment. It is not Mississippi versus New York anymore. It is USA versus world. Therefore, states rights are only holding back the ability of our nation to compete in this increasingly competitive world.

Another iteration of this is a true national ID system. You can implement this by making a national welfare card. Then you have 50% of the population with national ID cards. After this is implemented, you can slowly erode the idea of "states rights" as a fringe element, which they really are at this point. It is a bunch of people who are still stuck in a 1910 mode of thinking. People who are pro states rights are only that way because it suits their point of view. This viewpoint is unacceptable going forward, however, because we need to make quicker and quicker decisions and cannot have people with grandfathered rights holding the system hostage. A national ID card would remove one of the states' last real rights: to control ID databases. Combine that with removal of Medicaid control and welfare control, and states become quite literally an extension of the national government because the leaders depend on welfare votes to get elected (ie they must be compliant with national or they will not get enough welfare and their constituents will unelect them).

The only thing holding back the removal of states rights is that states righters have large amounts of automatic weapons. That is why I believe this whole shabang is not about the collapse of the US government, the dollar, or even destruction of the welfare state.

This is about formalizing what has been known to be true for many years: states are completely dependent on the Federal government. Example? Interstate repair funds. Federal government has dictated that the drinking age needs to be 21. Anyone who listened got money, anyone who didn't received nothing. Gradually, all 50 states changed to age 21.

Federal is tired of having to bribe state officials to push through anything. It is tired of having corrupt state politicians who do not understand the realities of this world from blocking progress. State officials constantly pose roadblocks to national agendas and truly should be sidelined. And that is most likely the purpose of any type of welfare collapse.
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putin

Wrong on so many levels, but whatever
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01/22/2013 11:20 AM
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Re: Preparation for MASSIVE civil war...
War on developed soil is never imminent.

Development necessitates war, not the other way around.

Once developed, one must defend against those who do not understand development.

This can be done through a) guns or b) welfare.

There is some reason that there is an intention to reduce welfare temporarily. The real reason I do not know, but I can guess that there are certain agenda items that cannot be pushed forward without some kind of real civilian threat to the long-term order.

One possibility is to remove the rights of states immediately (as if those matter anyway) and only have the federal government. This makes sense because the concept of National versus State is outdated in our current environment. It is not Mississippi versus New York anymore. It is USA versus world. Therefore, states rights are only holding back the ability of our nation to compete in this increasingly competitive world.

Another iteration of this is a true national ID system. You can implement this by making a national welfare card. Then you have 50% of the population with national ID cards. After this is implemented, you can slowly erode the idea of "states rights" as a fringe element, which they really are at this point. It is a bunch of people who are still stuck in a 1910 mode of thinking. People who are pro states rights are only that way because it suits their point of view. This viewpoint is unacceptable going forward, however, because we need to make quicker and quicker decisions and cannot have people with grandfathered rights holding the system hostage. A national ID card would remove one of the states' last real rights: to control ID databases. Combine that with removal of Medicaid control and welfare control, and states become quite literally an extension of the national government because the leaders depend on welfare votes to get elected (ie they must be compliant with national or they will not get enough welfare and their constituents will unelect them).

The only thing holding back the removal of states rights is that states righters have large amounts of automatic weapons. That is why I believe this whole shabang is not about the collapse of the US government, the dollar, or even destruction of the welfare state.

This is about formalizing what has been known to be true for many years: states are completely dependent on the Federal government. Example? Interstate repair funds. Federal government has dictated that the drinking age needs to be 21. Anyone who listened got money, anyone who didn't received nothing. Gradually, all 50 states changed to age 21.

Federal is tired of having to bribe state officials to push through anything. It is tired of having corrupt state politicians who do not understand the realities of this world from blocking progress. State officials constantly pose roadblocks to national agendas and truly should be sidelined. And that is most likely the purpose of any type of welfare collapse.
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putin

Wrong on so many levels, but whatever
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


Not good enough. You have to say WHY you think it's wrong and provide sound reasoning.

All I am able to glean are events and patterns/clues which I've set down hoping to understand it and share.

We're not serving ourselves even slightly accepting every spoon being fed to us and behaving like helpless reactionaries solidifying rumors.

Maybe all would simplify by just getting out of here.
Waiting for a giant CME is not exactly practical.
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Re: Preparation for MASSIVE civil war...
God is pulling and is busy tightening the noose around Satan's neck, without anyone having to say one word, judgements and saving while sin is closing down on this earth, prepare your soul to meet The Lord, He is about to lead a new world on this earth as promised in person, as there is a second death coming after 1000 years and no one wants that, hell forever, as the vials are poured out of heaven onto the earth people still get saved as they realise. Bible prophecies are good to know it saves you from the death of your soul.
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Re: Preparation for MASSIVE civil war...
civil war ? please , we are murderers and thieves, lies do not become us.

lets call it what it is kill other people and take their shit
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Re: Preparation for MASSIVE civil war...
civil war ? please , we are murderers and thieves, lies do not become us.

lets call it what it is kill other people and take their shit
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No let's call it what it is, removing the usurpers/avowed haters of America and restoring the rule of law and the Constitution.
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Re: Preparation for MASSIVE civil war...
Okey dokey. Officially hopeless so far.

Clear as mud.
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Re: Preparation for MASSIVE civil war...
civil war ? please , we are murderers and thieves, lies do not become us.

lets call it what it is kill other people and take their shit
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No let's call it what it is, removing the usurpers/avowed haters of America and restoring the rule of law and the Constitution.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


right cause instead of 100 tyrants 10000 miles away I will have 10000 dickheads who have authorized themselves to monitor my behavior every 100 square miles. fuck you
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01/22/2013 06:39 PM
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Re: Preparation for MASSIVE civil war...
Well, it may not be civil war, it may be something else.

My wife has a female friend with three sons, one of which goes to a Greenwich Township Public School. He is 12 or 13 so he is in what, 7th grade or so?

Get this, his Mom called up my wife to vent as she is all pissed. His class has been studying the Muslim Religion and has been studying all aspects and details of it for THREE WEEKS now! They teach NO OTHER religion as there is a problem with separation of church and state, but the Muslims, well there is NO PROBLEM there!

I guess the MB is further up the asses of the assholes in DC then originally thought. I asked my wife if they thought I was as crazy a conspiracy nut as before. She admitted enthusiastically that yes, Walt you were right.

Awakening is upon us. Awakening to the fact that we are being set up for captivity. I told you those guillotines were going to be used down the line.

Thread: Americas 10,000 Guillotines and Femas 500,000 Coffins - Operation Endgame
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01/22/2013 06:53 PM
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Re: Preparation for MASSIVE civil war...
civil war ? please , we are murderers and thieves, lies do not become us.

lets call it what it is kill other people and take their shit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12056996


No let's call it what it is, removing the usurpers/avowed haters of America and restoring the rule of law and the Constitution.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


right cause instead of 100 tyrants 10000 miles away I will have 10000 dickheads who have authorized themselves to monitor my behavior every 100 square miles. fuck you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12056996


hell I agree with you but we have to start somewhere. Nice paraphrase from "The Patriot".

Last Edited by s. d. butler on 01/22/2013 06:55 PM
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Re: Preparation for MASSIVE civil war...
civil war ? please , we are murderers and thieves, lies do not become us.

lets call it what it is kill other people and take their shit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12056996


No let's call it what it is, removing the usurpers/avowed haters of America and restoring the rule of law and the Constitution.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


right cause instead of 100 tyrants 10000 miles away I will have 10000 dickheads who have authorized themselves to monitor my behavior every 100 square miles. fuck you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12056996


hell I agree with you but we have to start somewhere. Nice paraphrase from "The Patriot".
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Only a matter of time, so much Ritalin and other psychotropic drugs circulating within the masses these days. People are tired and pissed off from working bullshit jobs for no pay, driven to madness listening to this or that divisive "talking Head" in a controlled media. Soldiers are returning from the foreign wars only to find TSA/Homeland Security/PATRIOT Act like assault upon their personal liberties that they supposedly fought for,... once they are discharged and out of uniform,...they could easily be classified as terrorists if they do not submit/conform.

No jobs to speak of,....

Record corporate fraud in the news every-week though, fat bonuses for the CEO class and their boot-licking, mind-controlled sycophants,...etc, etc, etc,...


Z

Last Edited by zacksavage on 01/22/2013 09:21 PM
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01/23/2013 07:40 PM
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Re: Preparation for MASSIVE civil war...
Great thread OP.

I have been watching all this unfold in great horror for many years.

It is time that everyone in the USA learns that the stripping of our rights and freedoms isn't for our own good.

The truth is that it is in fact the exact opposite, and the removal of our rights and freedoms is to make it easier to oppress us.
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Re: Preparation for MASSIVE civil war...
It seems that according to many people I was "paranoid" or "crazy" when I said that the Patriot Act and similar were part of a sinister conspiracy.

Who's crazy now fools?

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