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NY Dem: Don't Release that Document Showing We want to CONFISCATE GUNS (video)

 
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A shocking new report on the Obama regimes accelerated plan to disarm his country's citizens claims that the US President is being supported in his efforts by the Mexican Sinaloa Cartel, both of whose “main target” is the powerful and feared Jewish-American billionaire Steve Feinberg, who controls nearly 85% of all private weapons manufacturing in the United States.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't. They always seem to be playing for both teams, don't they?
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My enthusiasm to compromise has been at zero for 5 years.
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... just for those who say there is no plan to CONFISCATE guns ...
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 Quoting: Wisconsin


There is no plan to confiscate.

Those are rejected proposals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32725783


Yes, rejected because the time is not yet right, because the Democrats have not yet caused enough misery or chaos to ensure success, ya fuckin' tool.

It wasn't rejected because it was antithetical to Democrat principles. It was rejected because they have to cheat harder to implement it than they are currently cheating.
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:obummerbanned:
The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
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:obummerbanned:
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cruise
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So, you're asking... what is gun control about?

It is about disdain for those who "cling" to their guns as a source of power.

It is about their hatred for the people they percieve to be the gun culture (white, low-income, rural, uneducated).

It is ideological warfare, designed to break the will of the political resistance.

It is about demoralizing one's political opponents by desecrating the symbol of the group's identity.

It is about getting all the guns, by any means necessary.

It is about social justice, and removing the last vestige of power from the group that they believe is most responsible for the sins of America's past.

It is about demonization, because they must first hate us in order to justify taking what they know is our rightful liberty.

It is about scapegoating, because they won't be supported unless the masses can be convinced that dead children are our fault.

It is about ridicule, because they believe in their own cultural and intellectual superiority.

It is about emotion, because logic, reason and empirical data do not support them.

It is about making America less like its "shameful" past.

It is about making America more like countries that they percieve to be civilized.

It is about resenting the idea of America, and wanting to change it into something else.

It is about "progress".

It is about preaching the ideals of democracy, but harboring deep mistrust of your fellow man.

It is about promoting power to the people, but only meaning certain people.

It is about society as a zero-sum game, where power can only be given to the oppressed if it is relinquished by the oppressor.

It is about making you live with the fear and insecurity that they live with daily.

It is about removing barriers of resistance to a future that they know you will be tempted to resist.

It is about making you more like them, because they know they are right.

It is about people who think they know more than you doing something that they believe is for your own good.

It is about an egalitarian ideal from the 19th Century that they believe would work "if only done properly".

It is about egalite and fraternite above life and liberte.

It is about rewriting our history to pretend that America was always the thing that they intend to turn it into.

It is about the sense of power and delight that they would gain from watching you be disarmed.

It is about the fact that you cannot be trusted to comply.

It is about the simple fact that they do not like you.

It is about submission.

And compromise with them is nothing more than submission.
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This GREAT, can I use this please?
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it's good this has come to light for those still in denial

what will be next?

what will be deemed dangerous?

precious metals? danger to the economy
garden seeds? danger to commerce
books? danger to those that control public opinion

anyone that thinks confiscation is good policy is, at best, a fool.
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In the video, New York Republican Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin is speaking to Democrat New York Assemblyman Joseph Lentol.

Here is the transcript:

McLaughlin: ... Something that we received from the Senate, Democrat proposals in this gun bill. And I don't know if you've seen this, or if you know that these are there or not.

Lentol: Well we don't have our own list of rejected proposals, that the Senate rejected, so I don't have anything to show you.

McLaughlin: Okay. Alright, then I won't address it then if you haven't seen it. I'll leave that one alone. Okay, thank you, Joe. Appreciate it.

Lentol: And by the way, I would recommend not to have that list shared because it has the capacity to dampen the enthusiasm of compromise.

McLaughlin: Well, it sure does when we talk about the confiscation of assault weapons. It absolutely has the ability to dampen a compromise.

more details: [link to www.tennesseesonsofliberty.com]
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Good job OP for typing out the text content along with the video. Thanks!
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Libtard?
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So, you're asking... what is gun control about?

It is about disdain for those who "cling" to their guns as a source of power.

It is about their hatred for the people they percieve to be the gun culture (white, low-income, rural, uneducated).

It is ideological warfare, designed to break the will of the political resistance.

It is about demoralizing one's political opponents by desecrating the symbol of the group's identity.

It is about getting all the guns, by any means necessary.

It is about social justice, and removing the last vestige of power from the group that they believe is most responsible for the sins of America's past.

It is about demonization, because they must first hate us in order to justify taking what they know is our rightful liberty.

It is about scapegoating, because they won't be supported unless the masses can be convinced that dead children are our fault.

It is about ridicule, because they believe in their own cultural and intellectual superiority.

It is about emotion, because logic, reason and empirical data do not support them.

It is about making America less like its "shameful" past.

It is about making America more like countries that they percieve to be civilized.

It is about resenting the idea of America, and wanting to change it into something else.

It is about "progress".

It is about preaching the ideals of democracy, but harboring deep mistrust of your fellow man.

It is about promoting power to the people, but only meaning certain people.

It is about society as a zero-sum game, where power can only be given to the oppressed if it is relinquished by the oppressor.

It is about making you live with the fear and insecurity that they live with daily.

It is about removing barriers of resistance to a future that they know you will be tempted to resist.

It is about making you more like them, because they know they are right.

It is about people who think they know more than you doing something that they believe is for your own good.

It is about an egalitarian ideal from the 19th Century that they believe would work "if only done properly".

It is about egalite and fraternite above life and liberte.

It is about rewriting our history to pretend that America was always the thing that they intend to turn it into.

It is about the sense of power and delight that they would gain from watching you be disarmed.

It is about the fact that you cannot be trusted to comply.

It is about the simple fact that they do not like you.

It is about submission.

And compromise with them is nothing more than submission.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23761243





It's about making it possible for them to move ahead with their plans to exterminate 90% of the population. It's a lot tougher to do that, when people can defend themselves.
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... just for those who say there is no plan to CONFISCATE guns ...
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 Quoting: Wisconsin


There is no plan to confiscate.

Those are rejected proposals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32725783


There is ALWAYS a plan to confiscate.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


If they COULD.... They WOULD.
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Why does this look like the worst acting ever?
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Nervousness will do that.
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All Dems would like to take your guns, all of them. And for those who think it is ok are just stupid. Governments have killed more people then anything else in this world, over 290 million.
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Bingo, just wish the people asleep would understand that.
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All Dems would like to take your guns, all of them. And for those who think it is ok are just stupid. Governments have killed more people then anything else in this world, over 290 million.
 Quoting: soldier32 1557116


I think we need to confine the government or confiscate their control. They are more dangerous than guns!
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Somebody (me) should remind you guys that TPTB use the "democrats vs. republican" angle in order to shuffle the implementation of policy in ways that will please half of the people all of the time.

So, like Bush 2 set up the pins and 'bammer knocks em down,. you understand?

It's s LONG LONG term shuffle trick.

So, you all need to use your brains and see beyond the smoke and mirrors that are designed to confuse you and keep you arguing over the WRONG things.
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All Dems would like to take your guns, all of them. And for those who think it is ok are just stupid. Governments have killed more people then anything else in this world, over 290 million.
 Quoting: soldier32 1557116

clappa
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When are you going to realize that both parties are the same players? Wake TFU!...1doh1
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yea i saw this live and my mouth dropped!! They wont do it, it will start a war and they know that. They want to so bad though, its like putting a fat kid in a front of a cake telling him he cant eat it lol
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haha this
Never regret anything,for at one time its exactly what you wanted
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All Dems would like to take your guns, all of them. And for those who think it is ok are just stupid. Governments have killed more people then anything else in this world, over 290 million.
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BUMP
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Somebody (me) should remind you guys that TPTB use the "democrats vs. republican" angle in order to shuffle the implementation of policy in ways that will please half of the people all of the time.

So, like Bush 2 set up the pins and 'bammer knocks em down,. you understand?

It's s LONG LONG term shuffle trick.

So, you all need to use your brains and see beyond the smoke and mirrors that are designed to confuse you and keep you arguing over the WRONG things.
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Duh poster.

I believe we know the 2 party duopoloy.
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... just for those who say there is no plan to CONFISCATE guns ...
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 Quoting: Wisconsin


There is no plan to confiscate.

Those are rejected proposals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32725783


Proposed, non the less.
 Quoting: RedDawnPost


Assemblyman McLaughlin just posted the full Democratic proposed plan on his facebook page.

1. Confiscation of "assault weapons"
2. Confiscation of ten round clips
3. Statewide database for ALL Guns
4. Continue to allow pistol permit holder's information to be replaced to the public
5. Label semiautomatic shotguns with more than 5 rounds or pistol grips as "assault weapons”
6. Limit the number of rounds in a magazine to 5 and confiscation and forfeiture of banned magazines
7. Limit possession to no more than two (2) magazines
8. Limit purchase of guns to one gun per person per month
9. Require re-licensing of all pistol permit owners
10. Require renewal of all pistol permits every five years
11. State issued pistol permits
12. Micro-stamping of all guns in New York State
13. Require licensing of all gun ammo dealers
14. Mandatory locking of guns at home
15. Fee for licensing, registering weapons
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In the video, New York Republican Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin is speaking to Democrat New York Assemblyman Joseph Lentol.

Here is the transcript:

McLaughlin: ... Something that we received from the Senate, Democrat proposals in this gun bill. And I don't know if you've seen this, or if you know that these are there or not.

Lentol: Well we don't have our own list of rejected proposals, that the Senate rejected, so I don't have anything to show you.

McLaughlin: Okay. Alright, then I won't address it then if you haven't seen it. I'll leave that one alone. Okay, thank you, Joe. Appreciate it.

Lentol: And by the way, I would recommend not to have that list shared because it has the capacity to dampen the enthusiasm of compromise.

McLaughlin: Well, it sure does when we talk about the confiscation of assault weapons. It absolutely has the ability to dampen a compromise.

more details: [link to www.tennesseesonsofliberty.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32430667


Good job OP for typing out the text content along with the video. Thanks!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32724523




Libtard?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32694722


You make no sense. How is appreciating an OP gives the content of a video instead of just a link being a libtard? some people actually are working and pop on an off here and can't watch videos.
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It's a tactic of negotiation to make proposals way beyond what you expect to achieve.

I think the information was leaked intentionally to make the "compromise" more acceptable to the general public and to those mildly opposed to more gun restrictions. Along the lines of: looked what the Dems wanted, at least they didn't get their way.

It makes those on the fence about the issue believe that an actual compromise took place and it deceives some of those opposed to more gun restrictions into thinking they've won a battle when actually they've actually lost the war.
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All Dems would like to take your guns, all of them. And for those who think it is ok are just stupid. Governments have killed more people then anything else in this world, over 290 million.
 Quoting: soldier32 1557116

clappa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32720904


Actually that's not true at all.

All a government can do is ask, it is the dumb, blindly patriotic masses that do the killing.

It is the people in the military, on the ground, with gun in hand, that are making the final, moral decision of whether or not to kill another human being simply because it was requested of them.

If someone whispers in my ear 'hey, go kill that guy' and I go kill him, will the police let me go and instead arrest the whisperer? Not likely.

You say 'government' like it's a separate entity. As though it is fundamentally different from you. When it is fact simply you, given power and leadership.
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Another dumb bastard without a clue. How many innocent children have been killed by Obamas drones? That's right, now be a good little sock puppet and STFU!
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it's good this has come to light for those still in denial

what will be next?

what will be deemed dangerous?

precious metals? danger to the economy
garden seeds? danger to commerce
books? danger to those that control public opinion

anyone that thinks confiscation is good policy is, at best, a fool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21963969


Garden seeds are already deemed hazardous, look at the Monsanto suits against farmers who have been contaminated by their gmos!
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I've got this feeling that between Obamacare and the 23 executive orders issued by Obummer that "Mental Health screenings" will become mandatory before purchasing a firearm.

American Doctors love to slap a diagnosis on you and feed you a bunch of pills.. thus you become too "unstable" to own a gun.

It's already HAPPENING...

I had the chance to interview the guy from Doomsday Preppers whom was disarmed and institutionalized for making a joke about suicide while being evaluated by his cardiologist...

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good thing there's a plethora of Americans who still hold these sentiments:

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I made a personal decision under Bush's reign when they passed the Patriot Act that I was done following our governments self serving laws.I will never comply with anything these commies pass.
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In the video, New York Republican Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin is speaking to Democrat New York Assemblyman Joseph Lentol.

Here is the transcript:

McLaughlin: ... Something that we received from the Senate, Democrat proposals in this gun bill. And I don't know if you've seen this, or if you know that these are there or not.

Lentol: Well we don't have our own list of rejected proposals, that the Senate rejected, so I don't have anything to show you.

McLaughlin: Okay. Alright, then I won't address it then if you haven't seen it. I'll leave that one alone. Okay, thank you, Joe. Appreciate it.

Lentol: And by the way, I would recommend not to have that list shared because it has the capacity to dampen the enthusiasm of compromise.

McLaughlin: Well, it sure does when we talk about the confiscation of assault weapons. It absolutely has the ability to dampen a compromise.

more details: [link to www.tennesseesonsofliberty.com]
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Agreed.
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... just for those who say there is no plan to CONFISCATE guns ...
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 Quoting: Wisconsin


There is no plan to confiscate.

Those are rejected proposals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32725783


They just got moved from Your Cart to to Your Wish List. Doesn't take much to click them back over again...if you have the majority and the will.
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Somebody (me) should remind you guys that TPTB use the "democrats vs. republican" angle in order to shuffle the implementation of policy in ways that will please half of the people all of the time.

So, like Bush 2 set up the pins and 'bammer knocks em down,. you understand?

It's s LONG LONG term shuffle trick.

So, you all need to use your brains and see beyond the smoke and mirrors that are designed to confuse you and keep you arguing over the WRONG things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32460757


Duh poster.

I believe we know the 2 party duopoloy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31744603


And yet most of the people bitching about Obama were applauding Bush because they never imagined these tyrannical measures would be used against them.
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I made a personal decision under Bush's reign when they passed the Patriot Act that I was done following our governments self serving laws.I will never comply with anything these commies pass.
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clappa

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