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What kind of piece of shit god creates a world based on hostility, fear, survival?

 
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Please go to a fucking psychiatrist. You need help. There are medicines that can help you with your obvious delusions of grandeur. There are a lot of really mentally sick people on this site. You need to go get help IMMEDIATELY. Do you have any friends or family? As them to help you.
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Let me get this straight.

You want me to go to YOUR kind of Doctor to bring me down,

While I am a Doctor trying to bring YOU up!
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The same kind of god who gives free will to his creations but then punishes them for making the wrong choice.


You can do anything you want... as long as you do only what I want.


Otherwise... devil6

Anyway yeah, OP you have just restated a very old question posed by ancient Greek skeptics.

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

 Quoting: Lucky Charms


Oh, come on, don't act as if action/consequence is some absurd invention; it is the basic premise of our society. Laws are put in place and we either obey them or pay the penalty. Give your head a shake.

A criminal knows the penalty for murder and yet still commits it; he knows where he is going and most don't whine about it if they were guilty. And you are glad when they are sentenced, no? So, shall all judges be loving and allow them to go free, give them a second chance without paying any penalty for their crimes? If was against you, I bet you wouldn't be too happy about it. You hypocrite!

Your quote is faulty in that God is most certainly willing and able to those who would CALL UPON HIM. What good can God do for those who DO NOT BELIEVE IN HIM or the power He holds?

Epicurus was an atheist who made the booboo of a paradox in that he questions and defines a God he doesn't believe in. One would have to believe and know God in order to present any merit in their opinion, which for the ages is simply his choice not to believe. And asking a question is certainly not wisdom without explanation or discussion if all facts and knowledge of said God have not been investigated to the full from both sides.

The world goes on in this way because the majority of the world does not believe in Him, nor has called on Him. Miracles go on everyday, you just don't see them or believe them so it wouldn't matter what anyone says or does to prove it, you already have your eyes and mind closed to it. A Christian couldn't convince you even if they wanted to...ONLY God can and only when you invite Him.

You fool! You and the author make no logical sense. God will not be there for you or anyone else who does not believe in Him. And as for the condition of our world what have you done to help those who suffer? Is blaming God your way of passing the buck? Again another paradox, you don't believe in God and yet you would sit and do nothing as if He did and should do something about the world. WE are the problem.

Remember those who are first will be last and those who are last will be first in His kingdom! It is the meek and humble who shall inherit the earth for all eternity! Yes, there will be those who will never live like we do, they are hungry, have no home and will die in this condition. But, that is why Jesus Christ came! Death has been conquered and they will have an eternity of light, love and perfection...immortality!
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There is so much crap in your post but, of course, you probably won't even read this because it makes too much sense. First off, if a person commits murder, they go to prison or they may be put to death. They KNOW these are the rules if they get caught. But your comparison is stupid. You say I should KNOW that not believing in your garden variety of deity will land me in hell, where I will suffer forever and ever. Sorry, but my human mind is completely incapable of believing in a horrific deity such as that. I just can't do it.

The God I worship would have to be kinder and more compassionate than me. But the God you worship is worse than Hitler, worse than any human that has ever lived.

So let me ask you a question that you will NEVER answer because you CAN'T answer it. Could you torture your son or daughter, your own flesh and blood, if they didn't listen to you (worship you) or if they disowned you? Could you torture them for one month and that's it. If you had the ability to lock them up, could you torture them by starving them, burning them, etc.? If you say, YES, then I would be right to call you a psychopath, and you should be in prison. If you say, NO, then you have more compassion than the God who supposedly created the universe. You are kinder and more loving. And, in that case, why do you WORSHIP a being such as this? Answer those questions, I double dare you, COWARD. What's the matter? Cat got your tongue.

It has to be because of fear, fear that has been taught to you since childhood. If you aren't good, Santa won't bring you presents. As you get older, if you aren't good, God will torture you forever. You are still a child, afraid of this invisible, imaginary being. You should be ashamed of yourself.

You seem to think that nonbelievers shouldn't talk about God as if we know him? Are you kidding me? I don't believe in God, just like I don't believe in Santa. But I can TALK about the God of the Bible because I read the fucking book. The Bible is a book and I use it to show you the error of your ways. I can talk about God in the same way that I could talk about any character from any book. A character from a book doesn't have to be real in order to have a conversation about it. Are you really as delusional as you sound?

What about people who are born believing that Allah is the one true God, for instance. What if they are right? They could be, you know. Just because you were taught about Jesus, this doesn't mean you have to be right just because you are you. Just because your ego tells you that you can't be wrong, this doesn't mean you can't be wrong. You are a stupid, fallible human being. YOU CAN BE WRONG.

So if Allah is real, you die and stand before him, and he says this to you: "I have to send you to hell because you never believed in me." Would you think Allah was fair and just. Would you think that you had the "chance" to believe in him while you were alive but you failed so you deserve to suffer endlessly? Or would you think Allah was a monster? Well, think of all those people from other religions who you think will stand before "precious" Jesus. Do they honestly deserve to suffer? Another question you can't answer, I will presume. I guess it is so much easier for the Christian to run away and hide.

It is no use to talk to Christians because you are all so sadly brainwashed. Your brains have been turned to a loveless pile of mush. You are pathetic people who don't know how to love anyone but yourself. You should be so ashamed to believe in the god you do, but you aren't. So I will be ashamed for you. You are a rotten human being. That is what most of the world will eventually think of you. And, no, they won't kill you or persecute you. They will just see you for what you are and they will pity you.
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I knows you want more acomodations don't like his design here well write to God about it and tell him all even Mother Earth is hosted on www of universe and is subdue to God...
You already gots a lots for Christmas you are alive and enjoying fruits of Mother Earth and basicly live a life what else you want?
So, do I tell you what I want for Christmas?

Tell me more about your powers?
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My Power is the same as your power.

All Power comes from the LORD.

On your own, you are powerless,

as am I.

But by acknowledging first the source of Power,

Then through me, all things are accomplished

I set out to do, in honor of his Holy name.

The same is your power if you believe it.
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You already gots a lots for Christmas you are alive and enjoying fruits of Mother Earth and basicly live a life what else you want?

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I want for nothing.
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Nature is not peaceful. Animals forced to eat or be eaten, kill or be killed. Constant suffering.. a life dominated by fear to survive.

If god existed and was the all powerful creator, why did it create a world where such hostile conditions of causing death to another life form is needed? To get a kick out of it?

This leaves 2 probable options:

1. god is an evil son of a bitch, and those who worship such a thing are just as bad.
2. there is no god
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11421136


God initially created a paradise......so do not blame Him.


Your ancestors chose to go their own way....


Humans will be allowed to have it their own way for awhile.....so that they forever remember what this led to.


God will eventually end all of this madness......burn up the world......and create a new one.
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Please go to a fucking psychiatrist. You need help. There are medicines that can help you with your obvious delusions of grandeur. There are a lot of really mentally sick people on this site. You need to go get help IMMEDIATELY. Do you have any friends or family? As them to help you.
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Let me get this straight.

You want me to go to YOUR kind of Doctor to bring me down,

While I am a Doctor trying to bring YOU up!
 Quoting: IAMIAM


I don't mean to toy with you and I don't know if you are simply a troll playing with people, but I do know that anyone who assumes that they are special (God) on earth is sick and in need of psychological help.

You need help and I am saying this because I really wish you could get it. So many people slip through the cracks and end up in bad places. Psychiatrists are trained to help people with conditions like delusions of grandeur, which I feel could be one of your conditions. It is not normal to assume the role of some God. Even though no God exists, it is delusional to pretend to be some otherworldly character. That is why I feel you need to get some help. There is nothing wrong with being mentally ill. It is an illness like cancer, for instance. It can be treated. I hope you hear what I am saying.
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Nature is not peaceful. Animals forced to eat or be eaten, kill or be killed. Constant suffering.. a life dominated by fear to survive.

If god existed and was the all powerful creator, why did it create a world where such hostile conditions of causing death to another life form is needed? To get a kick out of it?

This leaves 2 probable options:

1. god is an evil son of a bitch, and those who worship such a thing are just as bad.
2. there is no god
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Considering you are god, you tell me..
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So very true I feel like a human trapped in a net of life when is hard I ask god why so and when I am happy I tell him thank you...hf
Nature is not peaceful. Animals forced to eat or be eaten, kill or be killed. Constant suffering.. a life dominated by fear to survive.

If god existed and was the all powerful creator, why did it create a world where such hostile conditions of causing death to another life form is needed? To get a kick out of it?

This leaves 2 probable options:

1. god is an evil son of a bitch, and those who worship such a thing are just as bad.
2. there is no god
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Considering you are god, you tell me..
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You already gots a lots for Christmas you are alive and enjoying fruits of Mother Earth and basicly live a life what else you want?

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I want for nothing.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


hey IAMmm.,

I've had discussions with you previously in regards to your infantile delusions.

You've already demonstrated your lack of maturity in your rants. This alone reduces your stature to fecal matter.

do you understand how your actions constantly contradict your claims. ?

You are not a liar. You are purely delusional.

you have an idea of truth, but you are like the moon around the sun...saying you are the sun because you see the light. ...BUT YOU HAVE NO COMPREHENSION OF IT.
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Holy shit the ability to read and comprehend is severely lacking.

Starting to think I should have put up a huge disclaimer at the top saying "THREAD NOT ABOUT HUMANS/BIBLE/HEAVEN, so fuck off with anything relating to it"

It is about why create a universe where there is such a thing as eating/shitting/digestion/killing/suffering in order to survive. An all powerful being would have the means to bypass all that shit and let ALL OF LIFE (not just humans you fucktards) live in harmony. Yet that place is not our reality, and since it is not, we are either living in a universe that an evil god has purposefully designed to be this way, for whatever fucked up reason, or there isn't a god.

Try and refute that without including anything related to mankind. Go on.
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Learn about the fall of man in Genesis and about God's redemptive plan to save man through Jesus Christ. God didn't have to save a remnant of mankind after its betrayal, but he did. Because of his mercy and love he gives us a chance.
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There are no Gods. Jesus never even existed. IT is all make believe for children who can't give up their fantasies. You won't believe me because you are the child who has to cling to stories that you KNOW aren't true. You KNOW that no man rose from the dead because it is impossible. You KNOW that no star, way up in the sky, could lead men to a stable because that is impossible. You KNOW that a donkey could never have an intelligent conversation with Balaam (another delusional Bible fairy tale) but because you are a weak human being who NEEDS to cling to the idea that you will live after death, you will believe it, darn it. You will refuse to grow up and be a big boy because, darn it, it is just too much fun to believe in Santa/God. Well, darn it, that explains you in a nutshell. Now go back to your auto races and football games and forget all about what I said. There you go, big boy.
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In a nutshell, we don't know shit.

We have a very popular religious text that says "this dude saved this group of people."
We have a number of preceding texts that say a similar dude did the same thing for a different group of people.
Was the story remixed, or were the behaviors of the savior mimicked?

If the answer is a definitive "there was no Jesus," then I have a few favors to ask of you..

Will you talk some sense into sub-Saharian Africa? They're breeding themselves into oblivion and reuse to use contraceptives (in Gods name).

I'd like you to design an anti-matter forcefield. Hint: magnets.

Also, please summarize the complete history of all US government operations, classified and declassified. It wouldn't be a bad idea to stay ahead of the curve in that dept.

Scientists at MIT are working on transporting particles over long distances; they could probably use your help.

Elon Musk wants to colonize Mars, but there are some serious flaws in the proposed design of the colony; fix it?

Shelter the homeless, create ~10M domestic jobs or revert the global economy to a non-profit hybrid barter economy.

Reduce global carbon emission production by 90%, and plant a billion trees.

Cool down Earth's core and strengthen its electromagnetic core.

Anything else you can straighten out for us, genius?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18166903

Are you nuts? I think you must be. Where in the world did you get the fucking idea that I know everything and can solve all the problems in the world? Thank you for the confidence but, honestly, I am just a human being. But, I am a rather special human being, so maybe I could help.

All the things you asked ME to do, why don't you first ask God to do the same things? Ask God to shelter the homeless. He is supposedly all powerful, I'm just not there yet. Ask God if he could help them colonize Mars, I happen to think that has already been done, but hell, what do I know. I can't fix any problem they are having, but maybe your imaginary savior could do the job. He is apparently sitting up in heaven, picking his heavenly boogers, and throwing them down on his peons.

So maybe, since your god is so powerful, he could cool down the earth's core or strengthen the electromagnetic core. I think he is up for the job, but I am kind of busy. I have spaghetti on cooking and I need to make up some meatballs.

I will leave most of my important work to you, since you seem to be pretty up on the problems of the world. And since your imaginary god ain't doing shit, maybe you can fill in for him, that is, if you are done playing video games in your mommy's basement. I know...they are fun...but sometimes you got do God's work. LOL, you are funny.
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Yet that place is not our reality, and since it is not, we are either living in a universe that an evil god has purposefully designed to be this way, for whatever fucked up reason, or there isn't a god.
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So what. Maybe god is evil, maybe not. That doesn't make him disappear.
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Holy shit the ability to read and comprehend is severely lacking.

Starting to think I should have put up a huge disclaimer at the top saying "THREAD NOT ABOUT HUMANS/BIBLE/HEAVEN, so fuck off with anything relating to it"

It is about why create a universe where there is such a thing as eating/shitting/digestion/killing/suffering in order to survive. An all powerful being would have the means to bypass all that shit and let ALL OF LIFE (not just humans you fucktards) live in harmony. Yet that place is not our reality, and since it is not, we are either living in a universe that an evil god has purposefully designed to be this way, for whatever fucked up reason, or there isn't a god.

Try and refute that without including anything related to mankind. Go on.
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I, for one, say there is no God. But you didn't seem to address my post about it. I don't think there is a god because why in the hell would there be some evil creature that is up there invisibily watching humans while they suffer. That sounds like science fiction, not reality. And we all eat, shit, digest food, etc., the same way all ANIMALS do. That is because we are animals...end of story. That is what all scientist have been saying but most people don't want to hear what intelligent people have to say. They want to live in a fantasy world, and like it or not, you can't force them to grow up.
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Holy shit the ability to read and comprehend is severely lacking.

Starting to think I should have put up a huge disclaimer at the top saying "THREAD NOT ABOUT HUMANS/BIBLE/HEAVEN, so fuck off with anything relating to it"

It is about why create a universe where there is such a thing as eating/shitting/digestion/killing/suffering in order to survive. An all powerful being would have the means to bypass all that shit and let ALL OF LIFE (not just humans you fucktards) live in harmony. Yet that place is not our reality, and since it is not, we are either living in a universe that an evil god has purposefully designed to be this way, for whatever fucked up reason, or there isn't a god.

Try and refute that without including anything related to mankind. Go on.
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What you are describing was the original creation....paradise.


To "Bypass"......He would have had to create robots.....who were programmed to blindly be in submission to Him.
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Holy shit the ability to read and comprehend is severely lacking.

Starting to think I should have put up a huge disclaimer at the top saying "THREAD NOT ABOUT HUMANS/BIBLE/HEAVEN, so fuck off with anything relating to it"

It is about why create a universe where there is such a thing as eating/shitting/digestion/killing/suffering in order to survive. An all powerful being would have the means to bypass all that shit and let ALL OF LIFE (not just humans you fucktards) live in harmony. Yet that place is not our reality, and since it is not, we are either living in a universe that an evil god has purposefully designed to be this way, for whatever fucked up reason, or there isn't a god.

Try and refute that without including anything related to mankind. Go on.
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Because YOU are TOO DAMNED IGNORANT to read what is in the Bible, YOU are not receiving the answer!

YOU rule out the ANSWER stupid!

Because you think you can figure it out on your OWN.

Hahaha

Stupid motherfucker.

Your about to piss me off with your stupidity.
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hey IAMmm.,

I've had discussions with you previously in regards to your infantile delusions.

You've already demonstrated your lack of maturity in your rants. This alone reduces your stature to fecal matter.

do you understand how your actions constantly contradict your claims. ?
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I give you what you deserve motherfucker.

If your head is too full of concrete to be open to outside ideas, I am gonna hit it with a fucking sledge hammer.

I keep telling you motherfuckers I am not Jesus.

You better look to him for forgiveness, because I am gonna have your ass.
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Holy shit the ability to read and comprehend is severely lacking.

Starting to think I should have put up a huge disclaimer at the top saying "THREAD NOT ABOUT HUMANS/BIBLE/HEAVEN, so fuck off with anything relating to it"

It is about why create a universe where there is such a thing as eating/shitting/digestion/killing/suffering in order to survive. An all powerful being would have the means to bypass all that shit and let ALL OF LIFE (not just humans you fucktards) live in harmony. Yet that place is not our reality, and since it is not, we are either living in a universe that an evil god has purposefully designed to be this way, for whatever fucked up reason, or there isn't a god.

Try and refute that without including anything related to mankind. Go on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11421136


Because YOU are TOO DAMNED IGNORANT to read what is in the Bible, YOU are not receiving the answer!

YOU rule out the ANSWER stupid!

Because you think you can figure it out on your OWN.

Hahaha

Stupid motherfucker.

Your about to piss me off with your stupidity.
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You're the most ignorant retard currently posting on this site, I don't think you're in a position to call others stupid. Get the fuck on out of here, troll.
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You're the most ignorant retard currently posting on this site, I don't think you're in a position to call others stupid. Get the fuck on out of here, troll.
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I'll be happy to leave when you are prepared to take my spot.

What is your role in this life?

You have a lot of critique, but I do not see you making waves.

If I missed it, I am sorry,

Show me Your work.

I'll shut up for now, but let me see what YOU have done here.
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Nature is not peaceful. Animals forced to eat or be eaten, kill or be killed. Constant suffering.. a life dominated by fear to survive.

If god existed and was the all powerful creator, why did it create a world where such hostile conditions of causing death to another life form is needed? To get a kick out of it?

This leaves 2 probable options:

1. god is an evil son of a bitch, and those who worship such a thing are just as bad.
2. there is no god
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11421136


Not all animals kill other animals to eat, not all animals are eaten. Anyways, nature and mankind are entirely separate. God/Allah is not responsible for cruel or wicked actions of mankind, nor is religion for that matter(except satanism or militant zionism) is responsible for evil acts either, we all have freewill even to sin if we so choose. Mankind was not designed for wickedness but rather to serve Allah though mankind is certainly capable of evil, it's a given some of us will stray from that path and commit evil acts while others hold firmly to implementing Allah in everything they do in life.

There are no commandments ordering we slaughter animals for food as there are orders not to eat pork or other types of meats unless absolutely necessary for survival, there are many Jewish, Christian and Muslim groups who are vegan and being vegan is not forbidden within any Abrahamic faith. However, being that beasts were placed on this earth as servants, companions and sustenance for mankind, it is seen by some to be akin to refusing a great gift from Allah by refusing to eat of that which Allah has provided us.
Feed the hungry, visit the sick, free a captive if he be unjustly confined(kidnapped/enslaved by someone). Assist any person oppressed, whether they're of the Muslim or non-Muslim. - Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam)
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Nature is not peaceful. Animals forced to eat or be eaten, kill or be killed. Constant suffering.. a life dominated by fear to survive.

If god existed and was the all powerful creator, why did it create a world where such hostile conditions of causing death to another life form is needed? To get a kick out of it?

This leaves 2 probable options:

1. god is an evil son of a bitch, and those who worship such a thing are just as bad.
2. there is no god
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11421136


Not all animals kill other animals to eat, not all animals are eaten. Anyways, nature and mankind are entirely separate. God/Allah is not responsible for cruel or wicked actions of mankind, nor is religion for that matter(except satanism or militant zionism) is responsible for evil acts either, we all have freewill even to sin if we so choose. Mankind was not designed for wickedness but rather to serve Allah though mankind is certainly capable of evil, it's a given some of us will stray from that path and commit evil acts while others hold firmly to implementing Allah in everything they do in life.

There are no commandments ordering we slaughter animals for food as there are orders not to eat pork or other types of meats unless absolutely necessary for survival, there are many Jewish, Christian and Muslim groups who are vegan and being vegan is not forbidden within any Abrahamic faith. However, being that beasts were placed on this earth as servants, companions and sustenance for mankind, it is seen by some to be akin to refusing a great gift from Allah by refusing to eat of that which Allah has provided us.
Feed the hungry, visit the sick, free a captive if he be unjustly confined(kidnapped/enslaved by someone). Assist any person oppressed, whether they're of the Muslim or non-Muslim. - Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam)
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Holy shit the ability to read and comprehend is severely lacking.

Starting to think I should have put up a huge disclaimer at the top saying "THREAD NOT ABOUT HUMANS/BIBLE/HEAVEN, so fuck off with anything relating to it"

It is about why create a universe where there is such a thing as eating/shitting/digestion/killing/suffering in order to survive. An all powerful being would have the means to bypass all that shit and let ALL OF LIFE (not just humans you fucktards) live in harmony. Yet that place is not our reality, and since it is not, we are either living in a universe that an evil god has purposefully designed to be this way, for whatever fucked up reason, or there isn't a god.

Try and refute that without including anything related to mankind. Go on.
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I, for one, say there is no God. But you didn't seem to address my post about it. I don't think there is a god because why in the hell would there be some evil creature that is up there invisibily watching humans while they suffer. That sounds like science fiction, not reality. And we all eat, shit, digest food, etc., the same way all ANIMALS do. That is because we are animals...end of story. That is what all scientist have been saying but most people don't want to hear what intelligent people have to say. They want to live in a fantasy world, and like it or not, you can't force them to grow up.
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The truth may be stranger than fiction. But I for one won't have anything to do with a god that lets this type of existence exist.
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Learn about the fall of man in Genesis and about God's redemptive plan to save man through Jesus Christ. God didn't have to save a remnant of mankind after its betrayal, but he did. Because of his mercy and love he gives us a chance.
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There are no Gods. Jesus never even existed. IT is all make believe for children who can't give up their fantasies. You won't believe me because you are the child who has to cling to stories that you KNOW aren't true. You KNOW that no man rose from the dead because it is impossible. You KNOW that no star, way up in the sky, could lead men to a stable because that is impossible. You KNOW that a donkey could never have an intelligent conversation with Balaam (another delusional Bible fairy tale) but because you are a weak human being who NEEDS to cling to the idea that you will live after death, you will believe it, darn it. You will refuse to grow up and be a big boy because, darn it, it is just too much fun to believe in Santa/God. Well, darn it, that explains you in a nutshell. Now go back to your auto races and football games and forget all about what I said. There you go, big boy.
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In a nutshell, we don't know shit.

We have a very popular religious text that says "this dude saved this group of people."
We have a number of preceding texts that say a similar dude did the same thing for a different group of people.
Was the story remixed, or were the behaviors of the savior mimicked?

If the answer is a definitive "there was no Jesus," then I have a few favors to ask of you..

Will you talk some sense into sub-Saharian Africa? They're breeding themselves into oblivion and reuse to use contraceptives (in Gods name).

I'd like you to design an anti-matter forcefield. Hint: magnets.

Also, please summarize the complete history of all US government operations, classified and declassified. It wouldn't be a bad idea to stay ahead of the curve in that dept.

Scientists at MIT are working on transporting particles over long distances; they could probably use your help.

Elon Musk wants to colonize Mars, but there are some serious flaws in the proposed design of the colony; fix it?

Shelter the homeless, create ~10M domestic jobs or revert the global economy to a non-profit hybrid barter economy.

Reduce global carbon emission production by 90%, and plant a billion trees.

Cool down Earth's core and strengthen its electromagnetic core.

Anything else you can straighten out for us, genius?
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Are you nuts? I think you must be. Where in the world did you get the fucking idea that I know everything and can solve all the problems in the world? Thank you for the confidence but, honestly, I am just a human being. But, I am a rather special human being, so maybe I could help.

All the things you asked ME to do, why don't you first ask God to do the same things? Ask God to shelter the homeless. He is supposedly all powerful, I'm just not there yet. Ask God if he could help them colonize Mars, I happen to think that has already been done, but hell, what do I know. I can't fix any problem they are having, but maybe your imaginary savior could do the job. He is apparently sitting up in heaven, picking his heavenly boogers, and throwing them down on his peons.

So maybe, since your god is so powerful, he could cool down the earth's core or strengthen the electromagnetic core. I think he is up for the job, but I am kind of busy. I have spaghetti on cooking and I need to make up some meatballs.

I will leave most of my important work to you, since you seem to be pretty up on the problems of the world. And since your imaginary god ain't doing shit, maybe you can fill in for him, that is, if you are done playing video games in your mommy's basement. I know...they are fun...but sometimes you got do God's work. LOL, you are funny.
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+10 deflection points.
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Animals know no god.
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Nor do humans.
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Good golly why not study this most profouind question and learn how and why the majority of us are reconciled to what you think it the case.

Your question is fraught with anger and judgement with what seems to be wanting to make the statement rather than to learn the answer.
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You make a mistake which is very common.....namely because God is able to see all things in advance......that surely He must do this.


The fact is however.......that while He is fully capable of knowing all things in advance......He chooses to hide certain things from Himself. He is fully capable of doing this......and can do just as He pleases.


That is why when He looked down upon His creation just prior to the flood.......He was GRIEVED IN HIS HEART.


Had He allowed Himself to know in advance the evil that humans would be involved in.......He would not have shown this emotion.


Yet He looked down.......saw what had happened......and was genuinely GRIEVED IN HIS HEART. God cannot lie.....or fake this emotion. God is Holy.



Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

And the Lord was SORRY that He had made man on earth, and HE WAS GRIEVED IN HIS HEART.

So the Lord said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, FOR I AM SORRY THAT I HAVE MADE THEM."

But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
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Nature is not peaceful. Animals forced to eat or be eaten, kill or be killed. Constant suffering.. a life dominated by fear to survive.

If god existed and was the all powerful creator, why did it create a world where such hostile conditions of causing death to another life form is needed? To get a kick out of it?

This leaves 2 probable options:

1. god is an evil son of a bitch, and those who worship such a thing are just as bad.
2. there is no god
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Welcome to hell if you still think you are just here to live then you really need to start using your brain again.
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Please go to a fucking psychiatrist. You need help. There are medicines that can help you with your obvious delusions of grandeur. There are a lot of really mentally sick people on this site. You need to go get help IMMEDIATELY. Do you have any friends or family? As them to help you.
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Let me get this straight.

You want me to go to YOUR kind of Doctor to bring me down,

While I am a Doctor trying to bring YOU up!
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I don't mean to toy with you and I don't know if you are simply a troll playing with people, but I do know that anyone who assumes that they are special (God) on earth is sick and in need of psychological help.
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Take your psychological help and shove it up your dumb ass.

Are you fucking stupid Man?

Don't you know this Mind War is all about how you define yourself?

You condemn me for saying I am God on Earth, when my message is so are you!

And that we better unfuck this shit before we annihilate ourselves?

But no, you would rather believe you are weak. Because that is what YOU accept.

I know better, for I have seen.
Thread: Chains

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hey IAMmm.,

I've had discussions with you previously in regards to your infantile delusions.

You've already demonstrated your lack of maturity in your rants. This alone reduces your stature to fecal matter.

do you understand how your actions constantly contradict your claims. ?
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I give you what you deserve motherfucker.

If your head is too full of concrete to be open to outside ideas, I am gonna hit it with a fucking sledge hammer.

I keep telling you motherfuckers I am not Jesus.

You better look to him for forgiveness, because I am gonna have your ass.
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wtf

Why the attitude and cuss words?
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wtf

Why the attitude and cuss words?
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What's wrong with my words?

You are HEARING me now aren't you?
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Nature is not peaceful. Animals forced to eat or be eaten, kill or be killed. Constant suffering.. a life dominated by fear to survive.

If god existed and was the all powerful creator, why did it create a world where such hostile conditions of causing death to another life form is needed? To get a kick out of it?

This leaves 2 probable options:

1. god is an evil son of a bitch, and those who worship such a thing are just as bad.
2. there is no god
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11421136


Not all animals kill other animals to eat, not all animals are eaten. Anyways, nature and mankind are entirely separate. God/Allah is not responsible for cruel or wicked actions of mankind, nor is religion for that matter(except satanism or militant zionism) is responsible for evil acts either, we all have freewill even to sin if we so choose. Mankind was not designed for wickedness but rather to serve Allah though mankind is certainly capable of evil, it's a given some of us will stray from that path and commit evil acts while others hold firmly to implementing Allah in everything they do in life.

There are no commandments ordering we slaughter animals for food as there are orders not to eat pork or other types of meats unless absolutely necessary for survival, there are many Jewish, Christian and Muslim groups who are vegan and being vegan is not forbidden within any Abrahamic faith. However, being that beasts were placed on this earth as servants, companions and sustenance for mankind, it is seen by some to be akin to refusing a great gift from Allah by refusing to eat of that which Allah has provided us.
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You consider other life forms servants? No wonder this planet is fucked up. I have no respect for your kind. Fuck you and your god.

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