What kind of piece of shit god creates a world based on hostility, fear, survival?

A dog will lay down his life for a loving master.

An ox will plow the field of a loving master.

An eagle will hunt the rabbit for a loving master.

Yes, animals are servants, COMPANIONS, and sustenance.

There is nothing wrong with being a servant.

God is eloquent, he wrote the Bible. Youre not eloquent.

good question. god or no god it is better to rage against injustice and harm to the innocent than to ass kiss and just accept this mess.

And I never said I wrote the Bible you dip shit.

I live it.

Not write it.

Please go away.
Get help. soon !

Likewise in the Garden of Eden......if God allowed Himself to see in advance that they would be tempted and eat the fruit......then, when He came back to visit them, God would have just said "You ate from the tree".....and delivered the punishment to satan, Adam, and Eve.


Instead......when God came back to visit them.....He observed that something was amiss......


and asked them a question:


"Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?"



After their response.......He then issued the punishment.

I am looking for help!

Will you start living the Bible too?

Life is a bit more cherry

when you follow the child of Mary!

The earth and everything in it was perfect, no violence at all, untill Eve had sex with the serpent. The whole order was changed as she brought death to the world. This world is about to end and the same peace that was, is ushered in, just like it was in the beginning before sin took place. There was no rain only a mist rising in the mornings and the weather was perfect all over the globe, not too hot and not too cold, perfect, you can live outside without a built house. Paradise. This is not a fantasy at all, the world has made this to look like a fantasy but it is not, the only fantasy are the people's false gods they created for themselves.

Sin is unbelief, we have lived in this for 6000 years, sin ends. The unbelief period has a time ticket attached to it, whereas belief is eternity and time does not exist.

God created Adam and He walked with him for 800 years then He put Adam in the flesh made from sand, and then He created Eve from his rib, one flesh as in marriage, and they were told not to touch the tree of life of good and evil which is sex, her womb produceds the fruit, which is us. The Tree of Life in the Garden was God, born of Him you produce His fruits, love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, kindness, faith, meekness and temperance.

God had also taken a reptile and recreated it into a look-a-like man, could not tell the physical difference between serpent and man.

Satan who was thrown out of heaven with his legions was also on earth and lurked around is still lurking around, the powers of darkness, an underworld created by God to hold him there.

He was God's greatest angel in heaven and he stepped out of line that threatened the existence of the universe and the existence of God Himself, there was a war and he was removed, he wanted to supercede God The Creator, Who has systems of Order in place in Heaven, any disruption is a LIFE threat to it.

Eve was a very beautiful woman and Satan could not resist, he went into the serpent and through the serpent he beguiled Eve throwing doubt on God's Word in her mind, which was an instruction not to touch "it". Eve was taken in by the subtlty and allowed the serpent to have sex with her, she liked it and showed Adam what to do and he had sex with her as well. Twins were born, Cain the serpent's son and Abel Adam's son.

The serpent-man was cursed and God recreated it back to what it was, a reptile, but made it a snake as we know it, that was the creation of a snake, a man's penis is a phallic symbol of it. People have all the ways of a serpent in their nature, beastliness if they do not curb themselves.

This sin was about Eve and Adam not believing God's Word when they heard it and confirmed it, they still did it, that is the issue, word and deed did not tally up they took Satan's word above God's Word, in other words believing in Satan is a sin = unbelief = following word outside God's Word.

After sin, God had to recreate the whole order on the planet to save Adam and Eve, He could not kill them as they were made in His Image and it would have been His demise as well.

The new order was uncomfortable, they now experience death, they lived for about 1000 years, whereas before there was supposed to be no such thing as death or a graveyard, she gives birth painfully and falls under her husband's protection, and he has to work for a living to look after his family, no leisure and retirements for him.

The weather was no longer ideal it came with seasons and they had to build shelters for protection, and God left them whereas before they were in continual communication with Him, that changed, He turned His Back on them !

The animals were now dangerous and a different kind of life began.

Adam's family were the sheep herder type and loved nature, while Cain's family were the city type. Separate nations.

Adam's family provided an acceptable sacrifice to God while Cain's family provided a sacrifice that was not acceptable to God.

Both nations were naturally religious the one side genuine as it lives by faith and belief, while the other one is a show and produces with grandeur, is popular and powerful as it uses others to get these results.

Eve opened this door and it caused problems for her, Adam and their generations.

The human race was annialated in the flood as the people refused to repent, and in Noah's ark a person carried serpent seed in his loins and when the earth was repopulated the conflicting nature in people spread.

Satan was able to have a fields day with them and worked towards being worshipped again, and he creates the same kind of order in heaven, a heirachal system but with a beastly attitude, a boss and slavery whilst threatening them. Women abuse in the form of worshipping their beauty or using them as doormats, sacrificed the children to their gods they created and their daily bread was porn, that was their worshipping in their temples, all about sex.

In the time of Abraham his wife could not bear him any children and she gave her hand maid to him in order to have a family. God promised Abraham he will have a child with Sarah. When they were stricken with age God recreated them both and made them young again, she gave birth to Izak their promised son and they both enjoyed a second life-time. God made a promise to Abraham that He will provide a seed after Abraham, he eventually died knowing he was going to have a great nation when God raises him up.

God had His own people the Jews, and He fought their wars for them and He saves them as a Nation, the Jews were waiting for His return and when He came they had him killed, many Jews recognised Him and their lives were in danger as for them prophecies were fulfilled but their brothers and sisters were still waiting and this caused conflict between them, God scattered them across the globe and the believers were mostly murdered.

The Grace period started and all people were invited by Jesus to be part of His Church, the Catholic "Church" is Satan's "church" he controls and it has many daughters, the Godhead is misunderstood and many people cannot see due to the deceit, they divide God into three separate people and Satan gives them power, government power etc, THE PURPLE CURTAIN which is the antichrist Revelations talks about, 666, "in place of God". Lucifer wants to be worshipped and he changed the Bible meanings and God's laws to achieve certain results.

For the Grace period Jesus commissioned St Paul in Damascus to take the gospel to the world, he was God's first prophet given for the Grace period, there are seven prophets given for the 2000 year period and two last prophets given to Israel as she became a Nation again, the closing of the last days, prophets prepare God's saints and guides them out the world of sin. The prophets for the west were, St Paul, St Ireneous, St Martin, St Columba, Martin Luther, John Wesley and Rev Branham. This formed the true vine of Christianity where the Word spread out to all the the nations. Revelations shows Jesus holding seven stars in his hand, it is these prophets, they were and are held in His hand, they helped with the building of Christ's Church over the seven church ages over 2000 years, this Church is THE NEW JERUSALEM, the promised spiritual seed unto Abraham. In the last days Christ collects His Bride and He comes back with His Bride. This world experienced the second return of Christ, He came as a Thief in the night as said, it is witnessed in heaven, on earth and in hell, it shows in all the newpapers found in the archives, and all the sermons were kept recorded and are in book form, witnessed and documented. Cannot be disputed, same with Christ's first return, He rose up from the dead, witnessed and documented, cannot be disputed. People missed it because they were expecting Him in the flesh as they believe God is three separate people, but He is One Person Who works in three Offices, the Holy Spirit provided for the Grace period is Christ Himself and the event displayed that throughout, His Spirit was poured all over the globe, same with the Jews 2000 years ago, some recognised and most were offended, governments and religous orders worked to destroy it, works with the subtlty of the mind to keep the human race enslaved. Christ then went to Israel and sealed in the last of His faithful people and this world of sin ends, Christ comes back with His saints. The 20th century prophet fixed up all the wrong interpretations of The Bible as well as the understanding of the Godhead, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, God works in three Offices and they are all One Person because He is Omnipotent, He speaks things into existence, He is The Great Creator. He came in disguise, in an office so that His Son's Blood covers our sins and He cannot see them, the human race were required to repent from their sins as described in the gospels and they are saved by His Blood, He was the one and only sacrifice for our sins, so we can repent and start with a clean slate. He has billions of saints if not trillions who will inherit this earth when it gets cleaned up. The conflict, violence, hatred and perversions no longer exist. The Jews also repent and find Him again. The world is made up of Jews and Gentiles, this is God's catagory for the world, not governments and other religious decisions. God saves Gentiles individually and Jews as a Nation, Jews who discover the true vine of Christianity are saved when they cry out to Him.

The new world is peace time, that is when Jesus/Messiah rests and leads the world from Jerusalem, and all things go back to what it was in the beginning, absolutely no violence. Jesus leads in Person, in the flesh, just as He was when He raised up from the dead, scars and all.

Satan is bound when this world ends and he with his subjects are cast into a lake of fire after the peace time of 1000 years.

Eternity has no time, the sin caused the time period which has a beginning and an end.

We do not know what happened in heaven when His greatest angel had to be thrown out with his legions and why all this took place, the prophets explain all of this, for God's own good pleasure. Satan and his legions were recreated into demons and they pester this world, they go into people and cause diseases and get them to submit to Satan. The gospels show how Christians must live their lives and this keeps them safe from losing their soul. Satan works on people to break down their mind, body, spirit and tries to then take their soul. God saves people when they cry out to Him.

So why was such a hostile dimension/existence created then? And why is life put here to endure it? Whichever way you put it, doesn't sound very friendly to me.

Sad how 90% of this thread has been off topic bible spam, I take it you bibletards from the way you avoid OP either still have the reading comprehension of a 5 year old or as a defence mechanism try to derail it with your unrelated bullshit.

Only a handful amount of people here actually understood OP, and those are the ones that seem to agree. Only had one intelligent opposing response (above) which I await the reply to.

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The religiotards look at it all and it seems so violent and horrible, so terrifyingly 'real' that they simply slip into the comfort zone that 'god' provides.

They see dead people and carnage, they see pain and suffering, hunger and despairand they blame the devil.
But who made the devil?
Yup, dear old 'god'.

When you live in a world of brutal reality and you cannot accept it then you turn to 'god' a saviour, a father who'll keep you safe and warm.

People are generally eternal children. Hell, the bible tells people to be like little kids!!
But if you want to survive in the real world and not the Xbox version, then you have to grow up.

'God' does nothing, yet all sorts of 'miracles' are his doing. Yeah, right!
It's actually very painful to watch grown ups jabber on like kindergarten kids about how 'jesus loves me and I love him'. Do you people know how that sounds to those of us who actually have grown up and take responsibility for our own lives and actions?

No, you wouldn't because toothfairy land just sits better with your view of the world. All love n glitz in the face of the glaring contrast of what the world actually is.

Pathetic! And this applies to all the gods...but particularly to that pallid, incompetent and weak god of the chrstians. Jesus.
I have more respect for the violent, egotistical god yahweh of the old testament.
Tht badass mofo was all for some good old fashioned carnage, rape and plunder.

How he changed his mind is still a mystery! Oh yeah! He incarnated himself as a peaceful loving guy and then orchestrated his own assisted suicide...

You perceive god to be evil. So what? That still doesn't mean he isn't there. Does it?

South Africa eh?

Ok, I tell ya what.

The God you have respect for is coming your way.

Enjoy!


Me and Mine, we'll go with Jesus. Yes, our Father does watch over us. I am sorry yours does not.

I can't wait to meet him! If he's anything like the bible describes then he'll probably try and rape me and steal my goat.
Or rape my goat and just chop my head off.
Your 'god' does not exist any more than thor, odin, zeus, appolo, allah or any of the countless gods of antiquity.
If mankind lasts another 1000 years, I assure you that 'jesus' will be long since forgotten...

I am the living manifestation of My God.

Thus, I know he exists, because I exist.

Keep watching your North.

Keep taking your meds. :-)

1. You have forgotten/do not know that there is also satan, the evil one, who is a murderer and liear from the beginning. Blame satan not God, for satan has been created perfectly until he rebelled against God.

2. it was all perfect in the beginning, no animal did hurt another until sin enterd in this world.

3. God will make everything new, animals will no longer hurt another and evil will be blotted out.

4. Have you ever read the Bible? Have you ever read that one day animals will hurt no more each other?





Isaiah 65:17-25 KJV
(17) For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
(18) But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
(19) And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.
(20) There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
(21) And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
(22) They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
(23) They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.
(24) And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
(25) The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

An all-knowing being would have foreseen such a circumstance, and chose not to prevent it. Not to mention created both it and the sequence of events leading up to it. So your god = satan = evil god.

Animals would not hurt each other if they didn't have the need to eat for survival.

That is certainly what i would like to know, especially since that piece of Shit never gave me a wife and family that he gave to so many others.

Why are you so hostile to God? I admit everyone at one point was hostile to God in their life. The devil and his minions create all the bad things on Earth. God has no control of everything that happens on Earth. He doesn't let himself to try to control everything. Only a wicked person would want to control everything. God is not wicked but the devil is wicked. God has regrets and he make mistakes.

Did you know you could live without killing animals? What do you think the plants are made for? you're wrong, humans and their ignorance are the piece of shit.

Chicken dinner

Before the fall, the whole creation was perfect and good. There was no predator/prey relationships. Adam and Eve didn't need to break a sweat and break the ground to have food. But man sinned, and that sin is in the blood of every human being to this day.

The only solution is Jesus.

this is about as close as I come to explain it.

this world is schizophrenic. Only the insane see this world for what it really is.

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Maybe it's your perspective?

Everyone has free will.
You believe god created all evil, yet don't even believe in him?
Sounds psychotic.

Hmm, kind of repulsive, you say?
You want existence without pain or cost.
You would never grow up.

He wants a friend who can think for themselves.
Horror must be experienced before wisdom is gained.
You fail to see what it is and why it is.

Testing is not playtime, now is the time to learn.
Final Exam is soon. Have you truly studied?

Go ahead blame everything else but yourself.
You not perfect, you must see this clearly.
How could he put you in a world that is?

You were promised a perfect world with a perfect leader.
How can you not prepare to be the perfect person to share it with him?

Do you like people who complain about everything?
Gets kind of boring quick.
Think he does?
Look in the mirror before it is too late.

THE LAW OF DIVINE JUSTICE

The madness of the war had engulfed the nations. Over the earth, oppression and violence roamed at large. The situation was in disarray -confusing and ominous. How would all of this be resolved? Many distressed faces were turned toward the Master. In the afternoon, a conversation about the international situation was initiated again.

The Master said:

"The entire contemporary world is built upon a false foundation. Each nation is a part of a unified organism: humankind. Each develops specific virtues and abilities. Each nation represents an element in Nature - and for this reason - has its own mission in the world. Each nation receives specific cosmic energies, transforms them and passes them on to the others. For this reason, each has had its place and significance throughout the entire existence of humankind. Each nation must give birth to an idea which will benefit humankind.

"At present, people think that they are the only factors, that everything depends upon them. This is not true. A Divine Factor exists which people have overlooked. A Law states: every act of statesmanship must have Divine Approval; that is to say, it must recognize the Divine in the world. Each nation and every man must respect the Divine Justice in the world. In addition to this, Divine Justice requires that we respect each and every being, protecting those rights which it has and providing for each all conditions for his development. Do not damage the little flower! When you read a book, would you tear out its pages? All beings in nature are like the letters on the pages of this book. You should not erase a single letter - not a single word - in the book, because the meaning will be lost.

"Every breach of Divine Justice brings its consequences. This is true for the individual - as well as for the collective-life. Not a single secretary of state or statesman is exempt from this Law. Do you know what repercussions a statesman who has acted unjustly can expect? When he passes on, he will incarnate as an ox, and this ox will be taken for slaughter. As soon as this ox has been slaughtered, he will enter another ox which will be slaughtered as well. After that, he will enter a rabbit which will also be killed. He will remember all this very well. When he comes to earth again as a man, he will say, 'Have you been an ox which has been slaughtered or a rabbit which has been shot?' After that, he will never violate the Law of Divine Justice.

"It is written in Nature, this Law: each nation which executes representatives of another nation and thus deprives them of their bodies must - after that - give them new ones. That is to say, the executed people must reincarnate into this nation. The Jews who were massacred by the Germans will reincarnate in Germany, and - in this way - the spirit of the German nation will be radically changed.

"The nations must be prepared for the application of Divine Law. Intelligent statesmen are needed who will apply Divine Law in the world instead of writing other laws.

"All nations will become more prudent, because the Law now comes from the opposite direction. Intelligent statesmen are needed in order that the many misfortunes - the great adversity - which the nations suffer can be avoided. And yet, because this is not happening, God now moves in the opposite direction. The nations are growing in intelligence and will not wait until their rulers become intelligent.

"If you follow the way of the new Teaching, you will discover the method for paying off your old debts. The Power of the new Teaching lies in its ability to pay off all debts. If you accept the new Teaching, no debt will remain unpaid. By 'old debts', I refer to karma. The European nations suffer because of their karma. They live under its weight. When a nation listens to the Ideas of the White Brotherhood, it prospers. If it does not, it is unable to prosper. With Russia as well - if they listen attentively to the Ideas of the White Brotherhood, they will prosper.

"The trend now is towards the unity of all nations. All nations must come together. In addition to this, the well being of all nations needs to be taken into consideration, and not only that of the one. A Law states: in every nation something good exists. When the nations unite, this good quality will flow through all the nations. The good qualities which the British, the Germans and the Russians possess will flow into the other nations and a new vital current will be born. The bond among nations will give birth to the new man, the new human character.

"Nationalism has come to its end. Hatred should not be fostered among nations. Nationalism is obsolete. Some say, 'A great nation.' This is not correct. Some nations wish to be great in order that they might rule over other nations. This idea belongs to the old culture. The purpose is not for one nation to be great, to be great in territory. Because all nations are represented in one organism, one great nation will look like an overly developed leg. One leg is well developed, while the other remains short. We will then have an abnormal organism. This will cause friction, suffering, and conflict.

"Russia is the link between the East and the West. She is the mediator between Europe and Asia. This is one of her assignments. That which we idealize in Russia is the Light, which comes from the White Lodge. The Bulgarians need to connect with Russia and with other nations as well. Every nation needs to serve God. This is 'the new' in the world: this is the future for every nation. That nation which does not serve God will pay. The Bulgarian nation is not being sent to work for the greatness of Bulgaria, but is being sent to fulfill God's Will, to serve God. No longer will great Serbia exist, great Bulgaria, great Russia, great Germany, great England. No one great power will exist, and yet there will be nations which will serve God - that is to say, which will obey God's Law. Every nation which serves God will have God's Blessing, will receive great abundance, will become an advanced nation.

"What does it mean to serve God? To serve God - in this case -means the following:

'To apply the Principles of Divine Justice.
To abstain from violence.
To have mutual cooperation among nations.
To serve, not dominate. '

"It is not the quantity which makes a nation great, but the quality. Every nation which does not wish to serve God will be deprived of its wealth and will disappear from the earth; it will disperse, as did the Jewish nation.

"The greatness of a nation lies in its service to God. A nation is then strong, and no other power will be able to challenge it. It will always - and under any conditions - be victorious. It will have inexhaustible bounties from God at its disposal.

"The Advanced Beings who come from Above - the predecessors of humankind - will assist those nations who serve God well, but those who do not wish to serve will not be helped.

"No single nation will be a ruler. The one who thinks that he can be a ruler is on the wrong side. At one time, large animals lived on earth. But what happened to them? The Lord destroyed them. All the ones who want to dominate the earth at present - He will do away with and send them off to some place else. For this reason, it has been said, 'The meek shall inherit the earth.'

"Imagine that one hundred people owe you money. They will ruin your entire life. It is preferable that you forget about them and that you expect nothing back from them. Otherwise, if you should bring these one hundred people to court - one per month - how many months will you be arguing with them, how much trouble will you have? You would receive back one thousand leva and still, you would have to spend more.

"A man comes to you and tells you, 'I have nothing. I cannot pay.' If he has nothing, leave him alone. The Turks have a saying, 'Pay not that which you owe. Take not that which you are to receive.' This means: let there be an international reciprocal forgiveness of all debts."

One brother asked, "When will the new come to be made manifest on earth?"

The Master said, "By buffalo-wagon, one travels very slowly. It is faster by a horse-wagon, faster yet - by car, with even greater speed -by airplane, and faster yet - with the speed of light. You are asking, 'When will things improve?' If you travel by buffalo-wagon, the improvement will come very slowly. But if you move with the speed of light - in a very short while."

satan

The Demiurge