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I'm Pro Second Amendment, However I Can't Ignore the Numbers

 
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WalMart does not sell handguns.

How many crackheads are shooting each other with the scoped bolt action hunting rifles that WalMart does sell?
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OP doesn't appreciate you bringing critical thinking into his thread.
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Ahh yes critical thinking.. Is blindly adhering to your own ideology with disregard for new information or information that contradicts your presuppositions considered thinking?

That's just the example I choose to use not so much because of the store but the neighborhood it's associated with, and yes crimes are committed with shotguns, and pawn shops are a plenty in neighborhoods such as these.
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Not a single poster is buying your bullshit.

You've been identified and called out.

Give it up, there is no redemption coming for you.
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WalMart does not sell handguns.

How many crackheads are shooting each other with the scoped bolt action hunting rifles that WalMart does sell?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23761243


OP doesn't appreciate you bringing critical thinking into his thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32735277


Ahh yes critical thinking.. Is blindly adhering to your own ideology with disregard for new information or information that contradicts your presuppositions considered thinking?

That's just the example I choose to use not so much because of the store but the neighborhood it's associated with, and yes crimes are committed with shotguns, and pawn shops are a plenty in neighborhoods such as these.
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Not a single poster is buying your bullshit.

You've been identified and called out.

Give it up, there is no redemption coming for you.
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Trying to have a reasonable debate with people like this is impossible. I never said I wanted to convince you, I'm open to new information.
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OP doesn't appreciate you bringing critical thinking into his thread.
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Ahh yes critical thinking.. Is blindly adhering to your own ideology with disregard for new information or information that contradicts your presuppositions considered thinking?

That's just the example I choose to use not so much because of the store but the neighborhood it's associated with, and yes crimes are committed with shotguns, and pawn shops are a plenty in neighborhoods such as these.
 Quoting: Grimsun


Not a single poster is buying your bullshit.

You've been identified and called out.

Give it up, there is no redemption coming for you.
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Trying to have a reasonable debate with people like this is impossible. I never said I wanted to convince you, I'm open to new information.
 Quoting: Grimsun


You will get nothing, only trolls.

We don't associate with collectivist, consensus forming, conformist shills.
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12 one stars and counting! 5a

Another tool bites the dust.
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Looks like the gun industry shills are out in force today. Big money on the line huh? Just follow the money and you will see an industry that wants desperately to convince people that average Americans will suffer under gun laws.

In fact the only thing that will suffer is the pocket books of the wealthy.

sheep
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Looks like the gun industry shills are out in force today. Big money on the line huh? Just follow the money and you will see an industry that wants desperately to convince people that average Americans will suffer under gun laws.

In fact the only thing that will suffer is the pocket books of the wealthy.

sheep
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Ah yes, anyone who doesn't think our great benevolent government can effectively stop violence by restricting the freedoms of the law abiding must be working for the firearm industry.....derp

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Criminals do not buy/register weapons, and anyone that does so is stupid. Why would someone pay $600 for a new pistol they're gonna use as a burner anyway? You can get a dirty 9 on the street around here for $50. Personally I've never bought or registered even one gun from a store, it's a rip off. Get em from the street much cheaper.
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I know people who used to buy the little bullshit semi auto Ak's and P90's they would sell in the gun stores. They would just convert them to full auto and sell for twice as much.
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If you subtract the gun-related crimes committed by inner city negroes, then the gun-related crime rate of the US is the same as that of Belgium.
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No, it's WAY lower in Belgium. We don't have a gun tradition.
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No, you have a homosexuality and drug addiction tradition.

sideways

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Looks like the gun industry shills are out in force today.
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Are you done cheering at the inauguration already?

I guess SEIU had the buses ready to get you affirmative action low-lifes back online ASAP after that dog and Wookie show.

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Nice try shill. Your link is "firearm deaths per 100000", nothing to do with crime. Alaska is second. Lots of hunting accidents and suicidez
Hawaii is #1 in per capita drownings. Ban the ocean!!
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Just show me some better numbers then. I tried to find one that took out suicides.
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More Guns Less Crime!

John R. Lott’s More Guns, Less Crime drew both lavish praise and heated criticism. More than a decade later, it continues to play a key role in ongoing arguments over gun-control laws: despite all the attacks by gun-control advocates, no one has ever been able to refute Lott’s simple, startling conclusion that more guns mean less crime. Relying on the most rigorously comprehensive data analysis ever conducted on crime statistics and right-to-carry laws, the book directly challenges common perceptions about the relationship of guns, crime, and violence.

[link to www.amazon.com]
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Hey OP, on the off change you aren't just trolling your pro-statist bullshit, here's actual data and counters your assertion:

MILLER: Gun ownership up, crime down
FBI violent-crime rates show safer nation with more gun owners

[link to www.washingtontimes.com]
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Typical libtard way of thinking. The non elite aren't smart enough and can't be trusted.

Pro 2nd amendment my ass.
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gunstat4444
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the Op is disinfo, wanna be spin agent. gtfo
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Really, you think so? Well I will say this. I'm against any kind of restrictions on clip size or ammo restrictions. I think that's a non-issue. I don't believe in gun free zones, that's just a soft target for criminals. I do agree with the NRA that a good guy with a gun is about the only thing that would have prevented the tragedy that started this debate. So do I still fit in your box?
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You just referred to a "magazine" as a "clip". Make note of that guys. I know it seems insignificant...but it's a sure sign of complete firearms ignorance, discrediting your entire plight.

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