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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8434843 United States 01/23/2013 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I remember correctly the video images were beamed to and taped in Australia and broadcast to mission control, and the networks did not get a live feed but had to take the images off of a monitor in mission control. The original tapes have since been lost. One of the proudest and most historical achievements in the history of the world, and the original tapes were lost. Quoting: Copperhead Bingo ! The man in the dumb hat is shilling hard! Look at what the "moon astroNOTss" said and did upon returning! Look at them, think about what was going on in 1969. We never put men on the moon. Wake up before you have too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8434843 United States 01/23/2013 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I remember correctly the video images were beamed to and taped in Australia and broadcast to mission control, and the networks did not get a live feed but had to take the images off of a monitor in mission control. The original tapes have since been lost. One of the proudest and most historical achievements in the history of the world, and the original tapes were lost. Quoting: Copperhead Only for Apollo 11 and we have plenty of backups. Link? And confession noted, they "lost" the origional footage......lol. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8434843 United States 01/23/2013 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dumb hat thinks he knows what was and was not available to the NASA asshats in 1969? How does he "know"? Really. Really, his point is it would have been EASYER to go than to fake it? Really? Think people......there are many layers of protective truth yet to be revealed.....guess who said that before he died. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8434843 United States 01/23/2013 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice photo, but I always wonder why the horizon disapears about 50 yards from the camera. Check out the shadow from the LEM, it ends right at the point where the horizon turns black. Look at how bright the LEM is and explain to me why everything vanishes at the point where the LEMS shadow ends? I can take a picture of my truck in the driveway on a bright day and I will have the town 8 miles away in the background, not in focus but the photo will also not end 100 yards away and go completely black. The moons surface is a light gray and I'm sure the sun is reflecting off the whole surface and there should be more in the background and not have such an abrupt change from bright to total darkness. Probably studio limits, lol At the time (1969) no one had home VCR, so they had full control on re-runs etc, and once it was broadcasted most of the people 'bought' it. The other point is when you look at the entire construct of the LEM it looks very fragile and like a model, compared with the SR-71 that flew in 1966 [link to en.wikipedia.org] How did the "foil wrap" stay crinkled in place again? Well done people! Well done. The SR-71 flew at three times the speed of sound through AIR. It had a lot of resistance to its travel. The LM operated exclusively in a vacuum with no resistance at any time. Plus the part you think looks fragile is only the insulative covering. The structure is underneath that. here is what it looked like without the insulative covering [link to www.hq.nasa.gov] [link to www.hq.nasa.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1472892 Israel 01/23/2013 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the youtube original video description: Published on Dec 3, 2012 collins is not sure if men went to the moon. but he is sure they could not have faked it. Show more All Comments Comments are disabled for this video. (so much for free speech) From his channel link: [link to www.postwar.nl] Postwar Media is the creative company of writer / director S G Collins. Collins creates media to help people and companies tell their stories. He lives and works in Amsterdam. From: [link to davesweb.cnchost.com] 'Here is another thing that I sometimes wonder about: why it is that in the 1960s we possessed the advanced technology required to actually land men on the Moon, but in the 21st century we don’t even have the technology required to get an unmanned craft close enough to the Moon to take usable photographs? Or could it be that there’s just nothing there to photograph?' |
nomuse (not logged in) User ID: 2380183 United States 01/23/2013 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the youtube original video description: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1472892 Published on Dec 3, 2012 collins is not sure if men went to the moon. but he is sure they could not have faked it. Show more All Comments Comments are disabled for this video. (so much for free speech) From his channel link: [link to www.postwar.nl] Postwar Media is the creative company of writer / director S G Collins. Collins creates media to help people and companies tell their stories. He lives and works in Amsterdam. From: [link to davesweb.cnchost.com] 'Here is another thing that I sometimes wonder about: why it is that in the 1960s we possessed the advanced technology required to actually land men on the Moon, but in the 21st century we don’t even have the technology required to get an unmanned craft close enough to the Moon to take usable photographs? Or could it be that there’s just nothing there to photograph?' Are you on drugs? What EXACTLY would you call LRO? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1472892 Israel 01/23/2013 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LRO Official NASA page [link to www.nasa.gov] Wiki LRO page [link to en.wikipedia.org] Please keep in mind that this thread is not about the Moon hoax yes or no, but about if it was possible to fake it (i.e the TV coverage) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8434843 United States 01/23/2013 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why no moon rovers? Think that stuff we left would be valuable by now? 40 years ageing on the moon.....ripe for testing? We can't even get a uesable photo. Buzz still wants to drink it all away. Neil tried to spell it out for YOU.....many layers of protected truth,.... Use your noodle.... We never went in 69.....and we couldn't aford to say so. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1472892 Israel 01/23/2013 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why no moon rovers? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8434843 Think that stuff we left would be valuable by now? 40 years ageing on the moon.....ripe for testing? We can't even get a uesable photo. Buzz still wants to drink it all away. Neil tried to spell it out for YOU.....many layers of protected truth,.... Use your noodle.... We never went in 69.....and we couldn't aford to say so. You mean the suitcase folding car, that just assembled itself with no pictures of the lunar assembly phases? The one car that the designers also lost all the diagrams for? |
Weasel_Turbine User ID: 31859349 United States 01/23/2013 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As for the cameras, they were made of a reflective material which also prevented them from heating up as quickly. Quoting: Weasel_Turbine Are you able to link a source of that? . You're unable to see that they look shiny? Google doesn't work for you? How sad. If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 01/23/2013 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Slowing down the footage might make jumps look like they happen in lunar gravity, but it would make every other movement look like the astronauts were on speed. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD You are also ignoring the evidence that the broadcast was live. People in Houston (in front of a bunch of civilians) are talking to the astronauts who respond in words and action. Again,, not sure hoax or not... About the 'real time' audio did you saw the lips movement? no! So it's just a real time audio chat with some LQ video track. Word AND actions! Some geologist: "Ooh, that's a nice rock. Can you take a closer look?" Astronaut saunters over to take a closer look. Some geologist: "Very interesting. Please bring it along." That same rock turns up later in a laboratory where it is deemed a rock from another celestial body. There's dozens of hours of that. Hollywood can't even make a 90-minute movie without loads of continuity errors. however the clean (no dust) on the LM arms/pods is very suspicious imo Quoting: Israeli Coward 1472892 So there air on the Moon that makes the dust billow? About the dust, yes i do expect the dust to be blown by the landing space craft, and there is dust in the area, as you can see in the 'foot print' area. The dust is blown away by the rocket exhaust. By what magic does it return to the spot it was blown away from? SR-71 (blackbird) 1966-1998 image [this bird really fly fast] Quoting: Israeli Coward 1472892 (2,193.2 mph; 3,529.6 km/h) [link to upload.wikimedia.org] More info on the SR-71 [link to en.wikipedia.org] -------------- Apollo 16 LEM image [Insert data here] [link to upload.wikimedia.org] LEM info: [link to en.wikipedia.org] And why, oh why, are you comparing an aircraft with a pure spacecraft? Do you really expect spacecraft to be aerodynamic? You really do think there's air in space, don't you? About the construct, although no air, i expect a robust '1 piece' unit and not a 'toy like model' IOW, like all hoaxies your utterly ignorant of the design of the LM. Ask an actually aerospace engineer what he expects from a pure non-atmospheric lander. The specifics of the LM are taught in engineering classes today as an outstanding example of space engineering. In the real world form follows function, and real world physical restraints, a problem Hollywood designers don't have to bother with. From: Quoting: Israeli Coward 1472892 [link to davesweb.cnchost.com] 'Here is another thing that I sometimes wonder about: why it is that in the 1960s we possessed the advanced technology required to actually land men on the Moon, but in the 21st century we don’t even have the technology required to get an unmanned craft close enough to the Moon to take usable photographs? Or could it be that there’s just nothing there to photograph?' Dave must have the world record for how many times one can be wrong. He's never ever right about anything. You mean the suitcase folding car, that just assembled itself with no pictures of the lunar assembly phases? Quoting: Isreali Coward 1472892 The one car that the designers also lost all the diagrams for? You are a sheeple. You mindlessly regurgitate the lies propagated by the hoax-proponents without any critical thought or any independent research. For your challenge: Fucking PROOF that there are no deployment images or designs available for the LRV. ________________________________________________________ If I remember correctly the video images were beamed to and taped in Australia and broadcast to mission control, and the networks did not get a live feed but had to take the images off of a monitor in mission control. The original tapes have since been lost. One of the proudest and most historical achievements in the history of the world, and the original tapes were lost. Quoting: Copperhead Only for Apollo 11 and we have plenty of backups. Link? And confession noted, they "lost" the origional footage......lol. Again. You believe only Apollo 11 was hoaxed? Did you read my link? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8434843 NASA has nothing to proof to people who already ignore a veritable Mount Everest of evidence. When these images came available the hoaxies just moved their rocket-propelled goalposts to a different continent. Just as everybody who knows them (including me) had said they would. Nothing will ever be good enough for the hoaxies. Their position is not based on evidence but on ignoring evidence, so no evidence will ever change their minds. IOW hoaxies are basically irrational, their believes are like a religion, "NASA lies" is a a dogma of the Church ot the Hoax. Meanwhile rational people shake their heads. YOU didn't get these pictures. WE, space enthusiasts, did. You just proved his point. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8434843 Think you twits think and look at where we are. NASA lied! A vile and slanderous accusation based on nothing but an argument from ignorance. And you're to deep down the rabbit-hole to notice that the people laughing are laughing AT you. Darryl Cunningham Investigates The Moon Hoax [link to darryl-cunningham.blogspot.com] Moon Base Clavius, for all your debunking needs [link to www.xmission.com] Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Weasel_Turbine User ID: 31859349 United States 01/23/2013 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I remember correctly the video images were beamed to and taped in Australia and broadcast to mission control, and the networks did not get a live feed but had to take the images off of a monitor in mission control. The original tapes have since been lost. One of the proudest and most historical achievements in the history of the world, and the original tapes were lost. Quoting: Copperhead Only for Apollo 11 and we have plenty of backups. Link? And confession noted, they "lost" the origional footage......lol. You havent seen the footage? That is a backup. If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law |
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Weasel_Turbine User ID: 31859349 United States 01/23/2013 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why no moon rovers? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8434843 Think that stuff we left would be valuable by now? 40 years ageing on the moon.....ripe for testing? We can't even get a uesable photo. Buzz still wants to drink it all away. Neil tried to spell it out for YOU.....many layers of protected truth,.... Use your noodle.... We never went in 69.....and we couldn't aford to say so. You mean the suitcase folding car, that just assembled itself with no pictures of the lunar assembly phases? The one car that the designers also lost all the diagrams for? Who is supposed to take pictures when it is a two man job? Why do you need pictures when there is video? [link to www.youtube.com] If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law |
DUCM900 User ID: 32895146 Italy 01/23/2013 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As for the cameras, they were made of a reflective material which also prevented them from heating up as quickly. Quoting: Weasel_Turbine Are you able to link a source of that? . You're unable to see that they look shiny? Google doesn't work for you? How sad. Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 01/23/2013 07:59 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18237036 United States 01/23/2013 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's a nut grabber. When they video the moon bugger wankering around the moon surface and the dust is being kicked up but comes down just as fast as if it were in the gravity of earth but wait you moon knuckle kissers, the moon has less gravitational stickiness to matter so that shit flying up from the moon as dust and shit should of stayed suspended in the zero gravitational BS cause if its anything like back on earth, the stuff is liter and should remain suspended longer. But thats not the case and the shit never happened on the moon. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32623728 Argentina 01/23/2013 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's a nut grabber. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18237036 When they video the moon bugger wankering around the moon surface and the dust is being kicked up but comes down just as fast as if it were in the gravity of earth but wait you moon knuckle kissers, the moon has less gravitational stickiness to matter so that shit flying up from the moon as dust and shit should of stayed suspended in the zero gravitational BS cause if its anything like back on earth, the stuff is liter and should remain suspended longer. But thats not the case and the shit never happened on the moon. Bingo. There are so many ridiculous inconsistencies in the official moon landing story that you would need to write a book to list them all (and people have). |
MHz User ID: 32332417 Canada 01/23/2013 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well since the character of Wernher von Braun was a hoax, that makes your Aunt a hoax and you a hoaxer. Buh Bye Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32017112 Um sure, What makes you think Von Bram was a hoax, its easy to read his history and what he has done for rocketry long before the U.S. Space program. Does the V2 ring a bell? That is one of the standard replies given to the $4 whores. The only pics I could find of the cross hair and the flag were scans made in 1998 and 2004, they could easily have been touched up. are the originals still available. How do you wash out something next to the film itself? Last Edited by MHz on 01/23/2013 09:25 PM |
MHz User ID: 32332417 Canada 01/23/2013 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @ 4:00 he mentions that the cameras were set for daytime exposure, not true, the f-stop had a big lever attached. If the cross hairs disappear on a white background why are two visible in this photo? [link to images.nationalgeographic.com] |
Weasel_Turbine User ID: 31859349 United States 01/23/2013 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's a nut grabber. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18237036 When they video the moon bugger wankering around the moon surface and the dust is being kicked up but comes down just as fast as if it were in the gravity of earth but wait you moon knuckle kissers, the moon has less gravitational stickiness to matter so that shit flying up from the moon as dust and shit should of stayed suspended in the zero gravitational BS cause if its anything like back on earth, the stuff is liter and should remain suspended longer. But thats not the case and the shit never happened on the moon. Suspended? In what? the nonexistent air? Zero gravity? You forget that the Moon has 1/6 gravity? The dust comes down in perfect parabolic arcs due to no air resistance and comes down at the speed expected for 1/6 gravity. On Earth fine dust often stays up longer dues to air resistance and aerosolization. If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2380183 United States 01/23/2013 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's a nut grabber. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18237036 When they video the moon bugger wankering around the moon surface and the dust is being kicked up but comes down just as fast as if it were in the gravity of earth but wait you moon knuckle kissers, the moon has less gravitational stickiness to matter so that shit flying up from the moon as dust and shit should of stayed suspended in the zero gravitational BS cause if its anything like back on earth, the stuff is liter and should remain suspended longer. But thats not the case and the shit never happened on the moon. Wow. This is "heavy boots" stuff here! One day he may even figure out the Moon is in a vacuum... |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 01/24/2013 04:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I told you. NASA doesn't fucking care what YOU want. I bet 500 Euro that when the X-Prize rover visits one of the landing sites you lot will claim it's all CGI. It's will just be more evidence to handwave away. Funny you guys don't actually lift-off. When they video the moon bugger wankering around the moon surface and the dust is being kicked up but comes down just as fast as if it were in the gravity of earth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18237036 Deliberate lie, or very bad observation skills. but wait you moon knuckle kissers, the moon has less gravitational stickiness to matter so that shit flying up from the moon as dust and shit should of stayed suspended in the zero gravitational BS cause if its anything like back on earth, the stuff is liter and should remain suspended longer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18237036 Suspended? In what? You're an idiot. (Or a NASA shill determined to make hoaxies look even dumber than usual.) Bingo. There are so many ridiculous inconsistencies in the official moon landing story that you would need to write a book to list them all (and people have). Quoting: Argentinian Coward 32623728 Yet none of them has ever actually been proven. It's just a long list of brain-farts, misunderstandings, lies, confabulations, and sheer stupidity. Meanwhile the hoax-promoters whose websites you click and whose books you buy are laughing all the way to the bank. So many sheeple they fleeced. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1472892 Israel 01/24/2013 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are a sheeple. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, Why going to name calling? I'm trying to keep an open mind here:) This thread is more about the possibility of faking the video. But it seems to become a Hoax or not thread. Halcyon Dayz, can you please give us more info on the rover dish antenna? like where did it broadcast to? frequencies aiming etc. We are talking about moving dish here! Also more info about the data communication protocols and error corrections in latency of minimum 1 second, modem models and data speeds will also be welcome :) Thanks |
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