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Comet ISON news: ISON possibly HUGE! And stoned Hopi Prophecy now incorporated! | |
amachiavellian  User ID: 20940257  Canada01/21/2013 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ''January 20, 2013 posting ... !!!!!!! ... Quoting: Carl the Sagan THIS JUST IN ... IT IS TOO EARLY TO CONFIRM BUT SOME INITIAL DATA SUGGESTS THAT COMET C/2012/S1 HAS AT LEAST ONE COMPANION AND POSSIBLY UP TO SEVEN ... WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS ONE HAS TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS BUT AFTER EXAMINING THE DATA THAT I HAVE SEEN I WOULD SAY THAT IT APPEARS TO BE REAL ... FURTHERMORE ONE OF THE POSSIBLE COMPANIONS APPEARS TO BE AT ABOUT TWO LUNAR DISTANCES (HALF A MILLION MILES) AND HAS NOT FORMED A COMA FOR SOME ODD REASON ... IF THE OBJECT IS ORBITING THE NUCLEUS OF THE COMET AT THAT DISTANCE IT IMPLIES THAT THE NUCLEUS OF THIS COMET IS POSSIBLY AS BIG OR BIGGER THAN EARTH ... ALSO WITH COMPANIONS WE WILL BE ABLE TO DIRECTLY CALCULATE THE MASS AND THEREFORE THE SIZE OF THE COMET NUCLEUS ... USING STANDARD ASTRONOMICAL METHODS ... NASA TIER II SCIENTISTS HAVE ALREADY PUT THEIR FOOT IN THEIR MOUTHS WITH AN ESTIMATE BASED ON SOME GEEEE WHIZ BAD SCIENCE ... AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE ONE OF THE BIGGEST OPEN LIES AT NASA IS CONCERNING THE SIZE OF COMET NUCLEI ALWAYS MINIMIZING THEM TO ALMOST NOTHING AND TRYING TO PROMOTE THEIR INCORRECT DIRTY SNOWBALL COMET MODEL ... WE KNOW THEY CAN DIRECTLY MEASURE COMET NUCLEI WITH RADIO TELESCOPES SO WHY ALL THE BAD SCIENCE AND OPINIATED ESTIMATES ??? NORMALLY NO ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTRADICT THEM BECAUSE THEY HOLD THE REIGNS OF THE RADIO TELESCOPES AND WHO IS TO CONTRADICT THEM ??? BUT WITH COMPANIONS WE USE A SIMPLE ASTRONOMICAL FORMULA AND WALA WE HAVE THE MASS OF THE NUCLEUS AND THERE IS NOTHING NASA CAN DO ABOUT THAT ... WITH THE RECENT INTERACTION OF THIS COMET WITH EARTH WHILE THE COMET WAS AT THE RANGE OF JUPITER'S ORBIT THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND INDICATION THAT THIS IS A WHOPPER OF A COMET ... NASA HAS BEEN EXTREMELY ACTIVE IN DAMAGE CONTROL ON THIS COMET AND JUST TODAY ISSUED A VIDEO CLEARLY DOING DAMAGE CONTROL ... WHY ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS WHEN THE COMET (ACCORDING TO NASA) WILL NOT EVEN BE VISIBLE UNTIL NEXT NOVEMBER ?!?!?! STAY TUNED FOLKS THIS IS GETTING REEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL INTERESTING ... jim mccanney '' Thanks man! One question for everyone, it might be stupid so my apologies in advance... Quoting: Carl the Sagan If comet ISON will appear to us in blue color as it approaches towards the Earth... when it makes the loop around the Sun and starts going away from the Earth, will it change it's colour to red because of the Doppler effect? This puzzled me few days ago and I can't find the answer No problems Bro - feel free to copy the one with the line breaks into your OP. And I don't know the answer to your question; wouldn't it be too close? We have a resident astronomer, I'm sure he'll be along shortly - he'll know. Last Edited by amachiavellian on 01/21/2013 07:20 PM — read for knowledge, not answers. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32727656  United Kingdom01/21/2013 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a dipshit. He's full of shit. ISON does not have any "companions." I'll tell what happened, he saw this image floating around on conspiracy forums like this one claiming it shows "companions" near comet ISON and he latched onto it: Quoting: Dr. Astro Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is being followed These sorts of images often show asteroids as well as hot pixels, but those asteroids are nowhere near the comet, and the hot pixels are not even real objects at all. I'm betting he didn't even notice the asteroid at the top of the above image: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Hot pixels don't even form point-spread functions, which is why that dipshit McCanney exclaimed that it "hadn't formed a coma." The lack of a point-spread function means it's not a real object, it's just noise in the imager. Asteroids and other real objects in space such as 2002 TY164 do, however, making them easy to distinguish. Obviously McCanney did not realize that. |
| Carl the Sagan (OP) User ID: 32722245  Serbia01/21/2013 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Few nights ago while nicely stoned :), I was reading about Doppler effect and how we perceive approaching sources of light in blue colour and sources moving away from us in red colour, then I remembered Hopi Prophecy about Blue and Red Kachina which says Blue and Red Kachina are twins. And then I was like WHOA DUDE :) twins are made from same genetic material so maybe, JUST MAYBE, comet ISON is Blue AND Red Kachina.  Prophecy says that first comes the Blue and then one day we will just wake up to red dawn when Red Kachina arrives (after the loop IMO) Carl the Sagan |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24898983  Germany01/21/2013 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Carl the Sagan (OP) User ID: 32722245 Serbia01/21/2013 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know about prince but here is a nice visual of the loop Last Edited by Carl the Sagan on 01/21/2013 07:03 PM Carl the Sagan |
| Carl the Sagan (OP) User ID: 32722245 Serbia01/21/2013 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anybody feel free to expand my stoned theory about ISON and Hopi :) edit: debunking is also fine hehe Last Edited by Carl the Sagan on 01/21/2013 07:08 PM Carl the Sagan |
| Carl the Sagan (OP) User ID: 32722245 Serbia01/21/2013 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Can somebody help me with the Doppler effect question? ...Will comet ISON's appearance change from blue to red when it makes the loop around the Sun and starts to move away from the Earth? Last Edited by Carl the Sagan on 01/21/2013 08:19 PM Carl the Sagan |
| Red Hot Chilean Pepe User ID: 32781808  Chile01/22/2013 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first time I read about ISON on september 2012, I knew this was possibly the first attempt to hide in plain sight something that I know that will happen in 2015. Perhaps it's too soon yet, but if you knew what I know, you'd know that sooner or later we will face a threat that will define the destiny of Earth. All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
| Children of the Atom User ID: 20257839  United States01/22/2013 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31643011  Spain01/22/2013 04:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first time I read about ISON on september 2012, I knew this was possibly the first attempt to hide in plain sight something that I know that will happen in 2015. Perhaps it's too soon yet, but if you knew what I know, you'd know that sooner or later we will face a threat that will define the destiny of Earth. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe Tell us more! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25003767 United States01/22/2013 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ''January 20, 2013 posting ... !!!!!!! ... Quoting: Carl the Sagan THIS JUST IN ... IT IS TOO EARLY TO CONFIRM BUT SOME INITIAL DATA SUGGESTS THAT COMET C/2012/S1 HAS AT LEAST ONE COMPANION AND POSSIBLY UP TO SEVEN ... WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS ONE HAS TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS BUT AFTER EXAMINING THE DATA THAT I HAVE SEEN I WOULD SAY THAT IT APPEARS TO BE REAL ... FURTHERMORE ONE OF THE POSSIBLE COMPANIONS APPEARS TO BE AT ABOUT TWO LUNAR DISTANCES (HALF A MILLION MILES) AND HAS NOT FORMED A COMA FOR SOME ODD REASON ... IF THE OBJECT IS ORBITING THE NUCLEUS OF THE COMET AT THAT DISTANCE IT IMPLIES THAT THE NUCLEUS OF THIS COMET IS POSSIBLY AS BIG OR BIGGER THAN EARTH ... ALSO WITH COMPANIONS WE WILL BE ABLE TO DIRECTLY CALCULATE THE MASS AND THEREFORE THE SIZE OF THE COMET NUCLEUS ... USING STANDARD ASTRONOMICAL METHODS ... NASA TIER II SCIENTISTS HAVE ALREADY PUT THEIR FOOT IN THEIR MOUTHS WITH AN ESTIMATE BASED ON SOME GEEEE WHIZ BAD SCIENCE ... AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE ONE OF THE BIGGEST OPEN LIES AT NASA IS CONCERNING THE SIZE OF COMET NUCLEI ALWAYS MINIMIZING THEM TO ALMOST NOTHING AND TRYING TO PROMOTE THEIR INCORRECT DIRTY SNOWBALL COMET MODEL ... WE KNOW THEY CAN DIRECTLY MEASURE COMET NUCLEI WITH RADIO TELESCOPES SO WHY ALL THE BAD SCIENCE AND OPINIATED ESTIMATES ??? NORMALLY NO ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTRADICT THEM BECAUSE THEY HOLD THE REIGNS OF THE RADIO TELESCOPES AND WHO IS TO CONTRADICT THEM ??? BUT WITH COMPANIONS WE USE A SIMPLE ASTRONOMICAL FORMULA AND WALA WE HAVE THE MASS OF THE NUCLEUS AND THERE IS NOTHING NASA CAN DO ABOUT THAT ... WITH THE RECENT INTERACTION OF THIS COMET WITH EARTH WHILE THE COMET WAS AT THE RANGE OF JUPITER'S ORBIT THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND INDICATION THAT THIS IS A WHOPPER OF A COMET ... NASA HAS BEEN EXTREMELY ACTIVE IN DAMAGE CONTROL ON THIS COMET AND JUST TODAY ISSUED A VIDEO CLEARLY DOING DAMAGE CONTROL ... WHY ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS WHEN THE COMET (ACCORDING TO NASA) WILL NOT EVEN BE VISIBLE UNTIL NEXT NOVEMBER ?!?!?! STAY TUNED FOLKS THIS IS GETTING REEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL INTERESTING ... jim mccanney '' Anyone who uses all caps is a moron and should not even be entertained. Moron. |
| Red Hot Chilean Pepe User ID: 32802511 Chile01/22/2013 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first time I read about ISON on september 2012, I knew this was possibly the first attempt to hide in plain sight something that I know that will happen in 2015. Perhaps it's too soon yet, but if you knew what I know, you'd know that sooner or later we will face a threat that will define the destiny of Earth. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe Tell us more! I've commented this in many threads: Basically, is what many call hercolobus. According to my source, who is a low profile contactee, the aliens that are in our planet to save a handfull of people from this event calculate that the collision or close pass (not much difference in destructive terms) will happen betwen January 2015 and up to 2019. No more precision possible, even for the aliens. All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32729444 United Kingdom01/22/2013 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you say it's normal, you are the one who is wrong because it could be the brightest comet ever according to official sources. ''Brightest ever'' does not equal ''normal'', it is actually furthest away from normal in my modest understanding. edit: Ok now I am wrong :) it is not furthest away from normal but half of that length according to normal distribution in statistic So what if it's bright? it's still a normal comet. Or do you still believe it could be the size of the Earth. LOL |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4303019 United Kingdom01/22/2013 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well i for one love your thread carl.also the blue and red kachina thing sounds really smart.i think your onto something here,i for one am seriously worried about this comet.the rest of glp will be too when it gets close up. |
| ehecatl User ID: 32406897  Mexico01/22/2013 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New threads are easy to produce on GLP. In fact many people who want their threads to be read now seem to post multiple threads at the same time about the same subject. I suggest that you abandon this thread and try it again. Go back, and use both upper and lower case, and be generous with the paragraph breaks, and maybe I will read your text OP. Thanks! (My brother uses upper case only because he is an attorney, and it means that people participating in his contracts are sold out to "the machine", they are no longer free individuals. ;) Last Edited by ehecatl on 01/22/2013 11:16 AM |
| Carl the Sagan (OP) User ID: 32811420 Serbia01/22/2013 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Carl the Sagan (OP) User ID: 32811420 Serbia01/22/2013 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New threads are easy to produce on GLP. Quoting: ehecatl In fact many people who want their threads to be read now seem to post multiple threads at the same time about the same subject. I suggest that you abandon this thread and try it again. Go back, and use both upper and lower case, and be generous with the paragraph breaks, and maybe I will read your text OP. Thanks! (My brother uses upper case only because he is an attorney, and it means that people participating in his contracts are sold out to "the machine", they are no longer free individuals. ;) But there are paragraph breaks, you can now read it if you like. Carl the Sagan |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32812831 United States01/22/2013 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32811725 United States01/22/2013 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know but just saw it posted on comment board on Suspicious0bserver's youtube channel. Thought I would share :) here is the link Quoting: Carl the Sagan [link to jmccanneyscience.com] McCanney loves his CAPS LOCK.  Good stuff, OP! Thanks! |
| oceans1111 User ID: 32017112 United States01/23/2013 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just like the 2012 SION Olympics in London Few nights ago while nicely stoned :), I was reading about Doppler effect and how we perceive approaching sources of light in blue colour and sources moving away from us in red colour, then I remembered Hopi Prophecy about Blue and Red Kachina which says Blue and Red Kachina are twins. And then I was like WHOA DUDE :) twins are made from same genetic material so maybe, JUST MAYBE, comet ISON is Blue AND Red Kachina. Quoting: Carl the Sagan Prophecy says that first comes the Blue and then one day we will just wake up to red dawn when Red Kachina arrives (after the loop IMO) |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States01/23/2013 10:29 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a dipshit. He's full of shit. ISON does not have any "companions." I'll tell what happened, he saw this image floating around on conspiracy forums like this one claiming it shows "companions" near comet ISON and he latched onto it: Quoting: Dr. Astro Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is being followed These sorts of images often show asteroids as well as hot pixels, but those asteroids are nowhere near the comet, and the hot pixels are not even real objects at all. I'm betting he didn't even notice the asteroid at the top of the above image: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Hot pixels don't even form point-spread functions, which is why that dipshit McCanney exclaimed that it "hadn't formed a coma." The lack of a point-spread function means it's not a real object, it's just noise in the imager. Asteroids and other real objects in space such as 2002 TY164 do, however, making them easy to distinguish. Obviously McCanney did not realize that. Thanks for reposting for me. What started as a mistaken but easily corrected observation by a GLP'er (or other forum dweller) looking at amateur images of comet ISON is quickly snowballing now that McCanney has latched onto it. I should do a youtube video about this while the claim is still young. I may try to get in touch with the original astrophotographer, Pete Lawrence, to see if he can lend me the original image data.  |
| Carl the Sagan (OP) User ID: 32876403 Serbia01/23/2013 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a dipshit. He's full of shit. ISON does not have any "companions." I'll tell what happened, he saw this image floating around on conspiracy forums like this one claiming it shows "companions" near comet ISON and he latched onto it: Quoting: Dr. Astro Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is being followed These sorts of images often show asteroids as well as hot pixels, but those asteroids are nowhere near the comet, and the hot pixels are not even real objects at all. I'm betting he didn't even notice the asteroid at the top of the above image: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Hot pixels don't even form point-spread functions, which is why that dipshit McCanney exclaimed that it "hadn't formed a coma." The lack of a point-spread function means it's not a real object, it's just noise in the imager. Asteroids and other real objects in space such as 2002 TY164 do, however, making them easy to distinguish. Obviously McCanney did not realize that. Thanks for reposting for me. What started as a mistaken but easily corrected observation by a GLP'er (or other forum dweller) looking at amateur images of comet ISON is quickly snowballing now that McCanney has latched onto it. I should do a youtube video about this while the claim is still young. I may try to get in touch with the original astrophotographer, Pete Lawrence, to see if he can lend me the original image data. Can you shed some light on colour of the comet after the loop? Can it gradually turn from blue to red colour because of the Dopler effect? Carl the Sagan |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5366990 United States01/23/2013 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States01/23/2013 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a dipshit. He's full of shit. ISON does not have any "companions." I'll tell what happened, he saw this image floating around on conspiracy forums like this one claiming it shows "companions" near comet ISON and he latched onto it: Quoting: Dr. Astro Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is being followed These sorts of images often show asteroids as well as hot pixels, but those asteroids are nowhere near the comet, and the hot pixels are not even real objects at all. I'm betting he didn't even notice the asteroid at the top of the above image: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Hot pixels don't even form point-spread functions, which is why that dipshit McCanney exclaimed that it "hadn't formed a coma." The lack of a point-spread function means it's not a real object, it's just noise in the imager. Asteroids and other real objects in space such as 2002 TY164 do, however, making them easy to distinguish. Obviously McCanney did not realize that. Thanks for reposting for me. What started as a mistaken but easily corrected observation by a GLP'er (or other forum dweller) looking at amateur images of comet ISON is quickly snowballing now that McCanney has latched onto it. I should do a youtube video about this while the claim is still young. I may try to get in touch with the original astrophotographer, Pete Lawrence, to see if he can lend me the original image data. Can you shed some light on colour of the comet after the loop? Can it gradually turn from blue to red colour because of the Dopler effect? The image is grayscale... [link to www.digitalsky.org.uk] |
| Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States01/23/2013 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought ison was neo and coming between the moon and earth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5366990 Can someone please post the projected path of Ison from a few month ago. Closest it gets to us is about 0.429 AUs on December 26th. No, it won't come anywhere near passing between the moon and earth. You're probably confusing it with 2012 DA14, which is a small asteroid, not a comet. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13937651 United States01/23/2013 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States01/23/2013 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then where is his astrometric data on these "companions?" Where does he show that the astrometric data reduces to an orbit consistent with a location near the comet, let alone "orbiting" the comet? He doesn't have any. He's an idiot who can't distinguish between a hot pixel and a real object, let alone identify the object or determine its orbit. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5366990 United States01/23/2013 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kung Fu rats. I can find several websites that a comet coming close to the sun emits a blueish gas and an asteroid emits red. The Hopi prophecy didn't say how far apart the kachinas would arrive but the white buffalo... ? As far as I am concerned there is no difference between an asteroid or a comet especially when it starts picking up friends along the way. Remember the crop circle? I will find it and post. |
| Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 31516487 United States01/24/2013 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a dipshit. He's full of shit. ISON does not have any "companions." I'll tell what happened, he saw this image floating around on conspiracy forums like this one claiming it shows "companions" near comet ISON and he latched onto it: Quoting: Dr. Astro Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is being followed These sorts of images often show asteroids as well as hot pixels, but those asteroids are nowhere near the comet, and the hot pixels are not even real objects at all. I'm betting he didn't even notice the asteroid at the top of the above image: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Hot pixels don't even form point-spread functions, which is why that dipshit McCanney exclaimed that it "hadn't formed a coma." The lack of a point-spread function means it's not a real object, it's just noise in the imager. Asteroids and other real objects in space such as 2002 TY164 do, however, making them easy to distinguish. Obviously McCanney did not realize that. Thanks for reposting for me. What started as a mistaken but easily corrected observation by a GLP'er (or other forum dweller) looking at amateur images of comet ISON is quickly snowballing now that McCanney has latched onto it. I should do a youtube video about this while the claim is still young. I may try to get in touch with the original astrophotographer, Pete Lawrence, to see if he can lend me the original image data. Pete wrote back while I was webcasting. He's not able to send me the image files right now, but he confirmed it was just hot pixels. Here's what he wrote: "It is definitely noise (my name) - if I overlay the frames directly, the dots are in the same place. The original frames were dark frame calibrated but I'm guessing the temperature varied throughout the shoot so some got through. I'm on a location shoot at the moment so no access to the originals at the moment but feel free to quote me. Pete" If anyone wishes to confirm that he said this, his email address is available on his website: [link to www.digitalsky.org.uk] |
