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EPIC MUST-READ GOLDtard ARTICLE: The Real Reasons that Germany Is Demanding that the U.S. Return Its Gold

 
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I believe this is one of the most important articles of 2013
 Quoting: Strongman Shelford


It only works if they actually give it back.

They told the French to get lost back in the 70's and the French just withered away and hid.

So, what will happen next?

Plus the Fed said, sure, we'll give it back, it will just take us 7 years to do so!

We'll see, but I have been holding my breath for over 3 years, now, and eventually you have to stop and come up for air.
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I keep hearing post after post, after post, after youtube video beg the question when does economic collapse happen?

The economy in fact has already collapsed by all mathematical standards available to an 4th grade math student.

The bigger question is when do the lies collapse?

Libor
Fraudclosure
MF Global
Silver manipulation
high frequency trading
plunge protection team
buying our own treasuries
buying our own mortgage backed securities
Quantitative easing into infinity
derivatives
the dollar being dumped worldwide
The Euro failure
Greece
Spain
Italy
Portugal
France
Germany wanting their gold back
other nations around the world wanting their gold back
the race to devalue their currencies
an aging population
unfunded liabilities amounting to over 200 trillion
The glut of housing Fannie and Freddie are holding out of the markets
the lowest employment of workers since world war 2
crop failures and the lowest food supplies since the 70's
record welfare
record food stamps
the baby boom bomb
the deficits
the debt ceiling
the fed lent spent or borrowed over 16 trillion dollars between 2008-2010
The Japanese economic collapse, and fukishima destroying their population
the export of all of our jobs
fractional reserve banking
more money lent than what exists in the world, or what anyone ever had to lend in the first place.
individuals, cities, counties, states, and countries around the globe, all running in red up to their eyeballs
HSBC laundering their money through the drug cartels
corporations buying prisons in order to use the labor and make profits
An ever increasing police state that sees all the above and knows that the music will soon stop.


And this, this big pile of steamy shit, and still nothing.

All of this has happened, any single one of them could potentially bring down the entire house of cards, yet the make believe and the money printing, and the little red and green arrows keep on running every single day.
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It's part of a bigger plan. All gold will be stolen by some east european country. Everything here is stolen, what is made out of metal... copper, bronze, brass, zinc, gold

public metal sculptures stolen
[link to translate.google.de]


they even dig great underground tunnels into banks
[link to translate.google.de]
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The U.S. is going to attempt to EXPORT out of this mess... they cannot cut wages or debt... the only means to achieve this policy is by devalueing the dollar down to $.35 - .52 .... this policy has been unofficially announced! Germany holds dollar denominated assets & debts... she will need her gold at home, on hand to offset the $ devaluation & inflation when purchasing energy and international trade credits.... the Fed will not be capable of guaranteeing international credit or collateral flows once the devaluation of the $ begins in earnest... JMO
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5a

Interesting theory. Do you have any sources to support this unannounced policy? The $ appears to be holding its own at this level especially against the Yen.
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OP, you forgot to mention THE most important part of this story. The fact that the fed said they will return the gold by 2020. Why does it take 7 years to return something they could package up and ship overnight via cargo transport?

hmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432


The Fed doesn't have the gold, that's why. What do you think Chavez would have said if the Fed had told him they wouldn't be able to get him his gold until 2020? He would have gone apeshit and exposed their whole leasing scheme (where many different claimants have claim on the same, small amount of gold), so they got him what he wanted (I hope he's checked to be sure he got actual gold and not gold-plated tungsten). But Germany is owned by TPTB (and supposedly has much more gold with the Fed than Venezuela did), so the Fed (which is also owned by TPTB) can take its own, sweet time getting Germany their gold. It's not like Merkel (a puppet of TPTB) is going to admonish them publicly for dragging their feet getting Germany their gold.
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The German’s are demanding that the U.S. return all of the 374 tons of gold held by the Bank of France, and 300 tons of the 1500 tons of bullion held by the New York Federal Reserve.
 Quoting: Strongman Shelford


What? 3500 Tonnen we have in New York, not only 1500!!!
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Since the Fed doesn't have the gold, they're going to have to buy most (all??) of it on the open market, or direct from mining companies, which is why it will take 7 years to get Germany its gold.
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and yet Gold gets hammered every day from Downtown Chicago via Comex by selling paper PUTS that are just pieces of paper that represent "NOTHING"

Everything is priced this way as the price discovery mechanisms have been forever removed from the world markets.
Do I have that right ?
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and yet Gold gets hammered every day from Downtown Chicago via Comex by selling paper PUTS that are just pieces of paper that represent "NOTHING"

Everything is priced this way as the price discovery mechanisms have been forever removed from the world markets.
Do I have that right ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31968081


Correct. That is what is causing the current silver shortage and the soon to come gold shortage -- the precious metals are massively mispriced (FAR too cheap, especially in the case of silver), which is going to cause very acute shortages. There is currently NO price discovery mechanism in the marketplace. The futures markers are a price MANAGEMENT (RE: SUPPRESSION) mechanism, nothing more.
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I keep hearing post after post, after post, after youtube video beg the question when does economic collapse happen?

The economy in fact has already collapsed by all mathematical standards available to an 4th grade math student.

The bigger question is when do the lies collapse?

Libor
Fraudclosure
MF Global
Silver manipulation
high frequency trading
plunge protection team
buying our own treasuries
buying our own mortgage backed securities
Quantitative easing into infinity
derivatives
the dollar being dumped worldwide
The Euro failure
Greece
Spain
Italy
Portugal
France
Germany wanting their gold back
other nations around the world wanting their gold back
the race to devalue their currencies
an aging population
unfunded liabilities amounting to over 200 trillion
The glut of housing Fannie and Freddie are holding out of the markets
the lowest employment of workers since world war 2
crop failures and the lowest food supplies since the 70's
record welfare
record food stamps
the baby boom bomb
the deficits
the debt ceiling
the fed lent spent or borrowed over 16 trillion dollars between 2008-2010
The Japanese economic collapse, and fukishima destroying their population
the export of all of our jobs
fractional reserve banking
more money lent than what exists in the world, or what anyone ever had to lend in the first place.
individuals, cities, counties, states, and countries around the globe, all running in red up to their eyeballs
HSBC laundering their money through the drug cartels
corporations buying prisons in order to use the labor and make profits
An ever increasing police state that sees all the above and knows that the music will soon stop.


And this, this big pile of steamy shit, and still nothing.

All of this has happened, any single one of them could potentially bring down the entire house of cards, yet the make believe and the money printing, and the little red and green arrows keep on running every single day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32933378


Its because the American Dollar, the worlds reserve currency enforces it's use by force through the military Industrial Complex/World Banking System....same thing same people.
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Since the Fed doesn't have the gold, they're going to have to buy most (all??) of it on the open market, or direct from mining companies, which is why it will take 7 years to get Germany its gold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32920610


Maybe they can schedule enough incursions in developing nations (like Mali?) to steal enough gold in public or private vaults to make up the difference?

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charlie
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the reason for that is quite simple. no brainer.

all the paper is worthless. gold is the only thing of value
everuthing is going to shit right now. germany is only preparing
for the worst.

i listened to max keiser's interview on you-know-who's show yesterday.

it is no secret.
What I knew as tangible and real was nothing more than a flimsy, thin sheet of a reality.
I come to know that the real "me" is a supersoul that is my true reality that resides in the spirit world.
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and yet Gold gets hammered every day from Downtown Chicago via Comex by selling paper PUTS that are just pieces of paper that represent "NOTHING"

Everything is priced this way as the price discovery mechanisms have been forever removed from the world markets.
Do I have that right ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31968081


Correct. That is what is causing the current silver shortage and the soon to come gold shortage -- the precious metals are massively mispriced (FAR too cheap, especially in the case of silver), which is going to cause very acute shortages. There is currently NO price discovery mechanism in the marketplace. The futures markers are a price MANAGEMENT (RE: SUPPRESSION) mechanism, nothing more.
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There has been so much news about the coming parabolic Silver move to come in the last month, I am afraid that this is a PsyOp to deflect investment from Gold into Silver.
I think it is the opposite, There is a real shortage of physical Gold so they are trying to get everyone to buy Silver because the Platinum PsyOp has failed. Next it will be a Palladium PsyOp.

Think !
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Since the Fed doesn't have the gold, they're going to have to buy most (all??) of it on the open market, or direct from mining companies, which is why it will take 7 years to get Germany its gold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32920610


Maybe they can schedule enough incursions in developing nations (like Mali?) to steal enough gold in public or private vaults to make up the difference?

.

charlie
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Why do you think we are sending troops to 35 African Nations (maybe more) ? To protect the innocent ? 1rof1
Why are we supporting the Mali invasion to protect an illegitimate ruler ?

one word ........RESOURCES..........
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I believe this is one of the most important articles of 2013
 Quoting: Strongman Shelford


the real question must be if everyone wants their gold but no one will take our dollars in exchange, whats going to happen?
 Quoting: MaxMad


And the other question....what if it is not there? What if the Gold is not returned?

What I gather from the German press is that, the reason for asking for it to be returned - is also to check that it actually is still available AND REAL. They want to check the authenticity of it AND then have it returned.
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I believe this is one of the most important articles of 2013
 Quoting: Strongman Shelford


the real question must be if everyone wants their gold but no one will take our dollars in exchange, whats going to happen?
 Quoting: MaxMad


And the other question....what if it is not there? What if the Gold is not returned?

What I gather from the German press is that, the reason for asking for it to be returned - is also to check that it actually is still available AND REAL. They want to check the authenticity of it AND then have it returned.
 Quoting: AlterEgo


Check that it actually exists. It's not why do you think they are going to take 7 years to return such a small amount.
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Since the Fed doesn't have the gold, they're going to have to buy most (all??) of it on the open market, or direct from mining companies, which is why it will take 7 years to get Germany its gold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32920610


Maybe they can schedule enough incursions in developing nations (like Mali?) to steal enough gold in public or private vaults to make up the difference?

.

charlie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432


Why do you think we are sending troops to 35 African Nations (maybe more) ? To protect the innocent ? 1rof1
Why are we supporting the Mali invasion to protect an illegitimate ruler ?

one word ........RESOURCES..........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31968081


Right. And who better to have in the white house than a quasi Kenyan to orchestrate the corporate takeover and or broker the bondage? Estimates are Africa can yield Goldman Sachs et al at least $10-15 trillion in secured debt, which they can leverage into $100 of trillions of derivatives.

clinton no

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I sense a drop in currency values real soon. The United States is in trouble, big trouble. They literally have no money to pay any debts, but the American people decided on that. I'm investing in Bitcoins, the value is currently rising over the dollar tremendously, then again what currency isn't.
Bitcoins and gold is where the value is at.

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Oh really?


It is NOT its gold, it is the Jews' gold.


Get it?
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and yet Gold gets hammered every day from Downtown Chicago via Comex by selling paper PUTS that are just pieces of paper that represent "NOTHING"

Everything is priced this way as the price discovery mechanisms have been forever removed from the world markets.
Do I have that right ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31968081


Correct. That is what is causing the current silver shortage and the soon to come gold shortage -- the precious metals are massively mispriced (FAR too cheap, especially in the case of silver), which is going to cause very acute shortages. There is currently NO price discovery mechanism in the marketplace. The futures markers are a price MANAGEMENT (RE: SUPPRESSION) mechanism, nothing more.
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There has been so much news about the coming parabolic Silver move to come in the last month, I am afraid that this is a PsyOp to deflect investment from Gold into Silver.
I think it is the opposite, There is a real shortage of physical Gold so they are trying to get everyone to buy Silver because the Platinum PsyOp has failed. Next it will be a Palladium PsyOp.

Think !
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You think there's been a lot of news about a coming parabolic silver move? Where? Not in the MSM, that's for sure. For those of us who read the alternative press, and who have been involved in the precious metals markets for years, then yes, we have been hearing about it, because it's the TRUTH. I arrived at that conclusion many years ago, when the only voice correctly analyzing the silver market was Ted Butler's.

There is FAR less above ground silver than available above ground gold for purchase. You can see evidence of that in the price premiums you must pay if you want to buy silver coins vs. gold coins. The price of silver is quite likely to eventually reach a 1:1 ratio with the price of gold, but that will be temporary, since silver is much less expensive than gold to mine and is present in the Earth's crust in about a 15:1 ratio with gold. But the gold/silver ratio is likely to level off around that level -- 15:1 -- when the next bimetallic monetary standard is established. That's why silver is a much better investment than gold at current prices; the current gold/silver ratio of over 50:1 makes silver extraordinarily cheap in relation to the only other real money in the world (gold).
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hey thanks for the pin guys charlie
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It's all mostly tungsten...
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You are forgeting that the aliens want gold, and when they come for it, those countries without it will be enslaved to mine it.
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This is between the worlds central banking cartels, this is not the government of Germany asking its gold back from the US government, it's between the central bank of Germany(Bund) and Federal Reserve.
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The only way the united states can keep the dollar from being devalued completely is to hang onto all the gold reserves. I say do not let the federal reserve near them either or they will end up with a ton of tungston in them the Feds have been salting gold for years to inflate stockpiles.
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You are forgeting that the aliens want gold, and when they come for it, those countries without it will be enslaved to mine it.
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I also belive this . Strang world were history repeats it's why mankind was created in the first place to mine gold.
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2013:

13

Satan is on his throne

DOW is on 13

Beware of gold hanging at 666
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Here's how the story plays out...

I'll be the Fed...And you can be Germany....

You...Hey Fed, I want my Gold shipped over to Munich!

Me...What?

You...Hey Fed, I want my Gold shipped over to Munich.

Me...Let me get back to ya on that.

You...(3 years later)...Hey Fed, I want my Gold shipped to Munich!

Me...What?

You...Hey Fed, I want my Gold shipped to Munich.

Me...What? It's Cold as shit in Munich?

You...I said Ship My Gold to Munich.

Me...Oh, you said GOLD, I thought you said COLD?

You...Yes, ship my Gold to Munich.

Me...Now what's this about Gold?

You...Ship My Gold To Munich.

Me...Gold? What Gold?

You...The Gold in YOUR vault that belongs to Germany.

Me...There's Gold in OUR vault? How did YOUR Gold get into OUR vault?

You...Just ship the fucking Gold.

Me...Let me get back to ya on that.
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OP, you forgot to mention THE most important part of this story. The fact that the fed said they will return the gold by 2020. Why does it take 7 years to return something they could package up and ship overnight via cargo transport?

hmm
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1.) Cross-collateralization.

2.) Need time to mine the Mali gold.

3.) To ferret out the tungsten bars.
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I think that means, "Every man(country) for himself!"

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