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This has been obama’s goal from his first election where he vilified veterans every chance he got marginalizing us potential terrorists especially since most of us came from the cold war era and understand the failures of the former Soviet Union, North Korea, Cuba and other communist countries.

People are normally guided by what benefits them and weak leaders will clamor around and support any leader that solidifies their position and ambition. These leaders can be compared to those people who are too lazy to find and forge their way through life and rejoice in a free cell phone and government social assistance instead of discovering what they can accomplish with a little hard work.

Religion is also vilified because they uplift the downtrodden and expect these people to work towards helping themselves and others while the government only creates government dependent pets who thrive at the expense of others as long as the gravy train has enough resources to keep government happen and the dependent happy to receive the dregs.
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If you attack their religion, you will wear down their faith. And if wear down their faith you will eventually destroy their will to fight.
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That is the thought process of the progressive left who negate and belittle the core beliefs of the religious as illustrated by the religious downtrodden people in the former Soviet Union.

The faithful adapted and never gave in to the government leaders who proclaimed to be the peoples deities and resumed the church at the fall of the bankrupt communinist Soviet Union government.
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This is why wed have had 5 generals fired by Oboma in the past few months.

All dismissed on made up BS charges.

We are about to see NDAA in full effect.
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???
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Do us all a favor: stop lying, and just hop on your broom and fly away to tel aviv.

And STAY.
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pro-militards are here - observe the stupid at work and play
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What are you trying to say please use logical thoughts and not the typical leftists blathering meaningless insults please acknowledge not all Americans consent to being a government kept pet as you willingly bow to being a leech.
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There would be a whole lot of fragging going on. The citizen soldiers won't obey an illegal order
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Umm? Anyone here remember, or have read about Kent State in 1970??? Orders were given, troops followed them and students died at that on campus demonstration. You bet your sweet "bippy" they would fire on American in America. Not all of them, mind you, but enough of them.
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was it troops or was it police. i thought it was police at kent
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Loss of free speech goes with a holocaust, it started when forcing doctors to perform abortions against their good conscience as well as spiritual leaders forced to bless marriages outside Bible laws, thus giving approval for the bottomless pit to rise up, the thing that is set aside by God Himself for the lake of fire, hell on earth!
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On Monday, renowned author and humanitarian Dr. Jim Garrow made a shocking claim about what we can expect to see in Obama's second term.

Garrow made the following Facebook post:

I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not.” Those who will not are being removed.

So, who is the source?

Garrow replied: “The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.”

Understand, this is not coming from Mr. Bullhorn or Jesse Ventura, or from anyone else the left often dismisses with great ease.

Garrow is a well-respected activist and has spent much of his life rescuing infant girls from China, babies who would be killed under that country's one-child policy. He was also nominated for Nobel Peace Prize for his work.

His bio on Amazon.com reads:

Dr. James Garrow is the author of The Pink Pagoda: One Man’s Quest to End Gendercide in China. He has spent over $25 million over the past sixteen years rescuing an estimated 40,000 baby Chinese girls from near-certain death under China’s one-child-per-couple policy by facilitating international adoptions. He is the founder and executive director of the Bethune Institute’s Pink Pagoda schools, private English-immersion schools for Chinese children. Today he runs 168 schools with nearly 6,300 employees.

Continue reading: [link to www.examiner.com]
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


What these so-called "leaders" have to ask themselves is how safe they themselves might be after giving those orders. I know that much of the current and former military (at least all that I know) takes their oaths seriously. So, while they may be trained to take and follow orders, their conscience will eventually put them at diametrically opposed odds with their commanders (should those people prove to be the enemy they've sworn an oath to protect us, their families and children from).

When that happens, accountability will follow shortly thereafter, and I think they know this - and it scares the shit out of them.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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That worked so well for those folks in New Orleans.
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Those 'folks' in New Orleans were out looting.
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examiner.com folks. bsflag
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Do us all a favor: stop lying, and just hop on your broom and fly away to tel aviv.

And STAY.
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You're in trouble, Obama-licking Nazi fag.
The German Nazi fags went after other Nazi fags first.
You think Obama's Nazi fag SS will keep you safe just because you blow them in public forums?

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Umm? Anyone here remember, or have read about Kent State in 1970??? Orders were given, troops followed them and students died at that on campus demonstration. You bet your sweet "bippy" they would fire on American in America. Not all of them, mind you, but enough of them.
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was it troops or was it police. i thought it was police at kent
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National guard but that was very different time.
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Garrow was probably behind the uprisings in Tibet as well. He's a fire starter, indeed.


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I'm a conservative and this is hard for me to take seriously.


bsflag wtf
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Report: Obama Ousting CENTCOM Chief Mattis

The reported departure will have consequences for U.S.-Iranian relations, civil-military relations, Marine Corps morale, and inter-service politics, Ricks writes. “I am at the point where I don’t trust his national security team,” he adds. “They strike me as politicized, defensive and narrow. These are people who will not recognize it when they screw up, and will treat as enemies anyone who tells them they are doing that. And that is how things like Vietnam get repeated. Harsh words, I know. But I am worried.”

[link to freebeacon.com]
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Report: Obama Ousting CENTCOM Chief Mattis

The reported departure will have consequences for U.S.-Iranian relations, civil-military relations, Marine Corps morale, and inter-service politics, Ricks writes. “I am at the point where I don’t trust his national security team,” he adds. “They strike me as politicized, defensive and narrow. These are people who will not recognize it when they screw up, and will treat as enemies anyone who tells them they are doing that. And that is how things like Vietnam get repeated. Harsh words, I know. But I am worried.”

[link to freebeacon.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32398851


Quote,
What maybe also happening is that the Team Obama Purge of Military Brass that will not call to fire on Civilians in a Gun Grab we are in Dark times
A survey given to Marines at 29 Palms by a student at the Naval Postgraduate School.

: Remember the survey given by the Naval Postgraduate school PHD

: candidate to the Marines? The main question that everyone

: focused on was, "Will you fire on Americans?"

: A large percentage said yes, but the majority said no. Could

: it be that the NWO masters didn't like the survey results.

: If over half of the Marines will not fire on Americans,

: then how can the NWO take over America? Maybe Afghanistan

: is the training ground where the American soldier is taught

: how to kill anyone, American or Taliban... even their

: wives!!

Here is the part I referenced above:

FIRING ON U.S. CITIZENS?

While all of the questions in this survey should
have stimulated concern, the survey's final question has generated an
enormous amount of attention:

The U.S. government declares a ban on the
possession, sale, transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting
firearms. A thirty (30) day amnesty period is permitted for these
firearms to be turned over to the local authorities.

At the end of this period, a number of citizen groups refuse to turn over their firearms.

Consider the following statement:

I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. Government

The survey results:

42.3 percent strongly disagreed with this statement;

19.3 percent disagreed;

18.6 percent agreed;

7.6 percent strongly agreed; and

12.0 percent had no opinion.

In one of the footnotes appearing in his thesis,
Cunningham quotes comments placed by some of the Marines next to their
answers to this question:

"What about the damn Second Amendment? .... I feel
this is a first in communism! .... Read the book None Dare Call It
Conspiracy by Gary Allen."

"I would not even consider it. The reason we have
guns is so that the people can overthrow the government when or if the
people think the government is too powerful."

"Freedom to bear arms is our Second Amendment. If
you take our Amendments away then you can take this job and stick it
where the sun don't shine! .... It is a right to own firearms for
defense (2nd Amendment); I would fight for that right!"

Based on the disagreement expressed by 61 percent
of the Marines, Cunningham concluded that "a complete unit breakdown
would occur in a unit tasked to execute this mission
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Report: Obama Ousting CENTCOM Chief Mattis

The reported departure will have consequences for U.S.-Iranian relations, civil-military relations, Marine Corps morale, and inter-service politics, Ricks writes. “I am at the point where I don’t trust his national security team,” he adds. “They strike me as politicized, defensive and narrow. These are people who will not recognize it when they screw up, and will treat as enemies anyone who tells them they are doing that. And that is how things like Vietnam get repeated. Harsh words, I know. But I am worried.”

[link to freebeacon.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32398851


Quote,
What maybe also happening is that the Team Obama Purge of Military Brass that will not call to fire on Civilians in a Gun Grab we are in Dark times
A survey given to Marines at 29 Palms by a student at the Naval Postgraduate School.

: Remember the survey given by the Naval Postgraduate school PHD

: candidate to the Marines? The main question that everyone

: focused on was, "Will you fire on Americans?"

: A large percentage said yes, but the majority said no. Could

: it be that the NWO masters didn't like the survey results.

: If over half of the Marines will not fire on Americans,

: then how can the NWO take over America? Maybe Afghanistan

: is the training ground where the American soldier is taught

: how to kill anyone, American or Taliban... even their

: wives!!

Here is the part I referenced above:

FIRING ON U.S. CITIZENS?

While all of the questions in this survey should
have stimulated concern, the survey's final question has generated an
enormous amount of attention:

The U.S. government declares a ban on the
possession, sale, transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting
firearms. A thirty (30) day amnesty period is permitted for these
firearms to be turned over to the local authorities.

At the end of this period, a number of citizen groups refuse to turn over their firearms.

Consider the following statement:

I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. Government

The survey results:

42.3 percent strongly disagreed with this statement;

19.3 percent disagreed;

18.6 percent agreed;

7.6 percent strongly agreed; and

12.0 percent had no opinion.

In one of the footnotes appearing in his thesis,
Cunningham quotes comments placed by some of the Marines next to their
answers to this question:

"What about the damn Second Amendment? .... I feel
this is a first in communism! .... Read the book None Dare Call It
Conspiracy by Gary Allen."

"I would not even consider it. The reason we have
guns is so that the people can overthrow the government when or if the
people think the government is too powerful."

"Freedom to bear arms is our Second Amendment. If
you take our Amendments away then you can take this job and stick it
where the sun don't shine! .... It is a right to own firearms for
defense (2nd Amendment); I would fight for that right!"

Based on the disagreement expressed by 61 percent
of the Marines, Cunningham concluded that "a complete unit breakdown
would occur in a unit tasked to execute this mission
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32398851


If I remember right that was done about 1996? Should be even fewer willing to go along with unconstitutional actions now.
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On Monday, renowned author and humanitarian Dr. Jim Garrow made a shocking claim about what we can expect to see in Obama's second term.

Garrow made the following Facebook post:

I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not.” Those who will not are being removed.

So, who is the source?

Garrow replied: “The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.”

Understand, this is not coming from Mr. Bullhorn or Jesse Ventura, or from anyone else the left often dismisses with great ease.

Garrow is a well-respected activist and has spent much of his life rescuing infant girls from China, babies who would be killed under that country's one-child policy. He was also nominated for Nobel Peace Prize for his work.

His bio on Amazon.com reads:

Dr. James Garrow is the author of The Pink Pagoda: One Man’s Quest to End Gendercide in China. He has spent over $25 million over the past sixteen years rescuing an estimated 40,000 baby Chinese girls from near-certain death under China’s one-child-per-couple policy by facilitating international adoptions. He is the founder and executive director of the Bethune Institute’s Pink Pagoda schools, private English-immersion schools for Chinese children. Today he runs 168 schools with nearly 6,300 employees.

Continue reading: [link to www.examiner.com]
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


What these so-called "leaders" have to ask themselves is how safe they themselves might be after giving those orders. I know that much of the current and former military (at least all that I know) takes their oaths seriously. So, while they may be trained to take and follow orders, their conscience will eventually put them at diametrically opposed odds with their commanders (should those people prove to be the enemy they've sworn an oath to protect us, their families and children from).

When that happens, accountability will follow shortly thereafter, and I think they know this - and it scares the shit out of them.
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Yes,klinton rules will be in effect. A nice feature of 4 and 5 GW.
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Generals don't commence firing. They just give the orders to do so. It's the troops that fire and there is no way in hell that'll ever happen!
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KENT STATE

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Do yourself a favor and try not to be caught sitting on your ass still thinking that what has already happened in the recent past could not possibly happen again... when they come for you.
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might also explain why US troops are being with-drawn early from many over-seas postings...especially in the Middle/Near-East region(s), eh?!?

personally: can't see how it would play out!

firstly: US officer corps takes an OATH to uphold and defend the Constitution of the US!.....that oath over-rides every-thing else...their first and fore-most duty is to protect the Constitution @ wht-evr cost!

secondly: "other ranks" take an OATH to obey their officers and, then, defend the Constitution.....

the only way that military 'leaders' could order troops to open fire on US citz is if they broke their oath of allegiance to the Constitution....if they do that.....they are automatically traitors and any other officer or senior NCO nearby would be quite justified in shooting them stone FUCKING dead there and then ON the SPOT!



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Generals don't commence firing. They just give the orders to do so. It's the troops that fire and there is no way in hell that'll ever happen!
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You underestimate the brainwashing the service members undergo
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If I remember right that was done about 1996? Should be even fewer willing to go along with unconstitutional actions now.
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Yes, but what about these red coats:

18.6 percent agreed;
7.6 percent strongly agreed; and
12.0 percent had no opinion.

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Dave Gibson, Virginia Beach Conservative Examiner

Dave Gibson has worked on several state and local campaigns, and as a legislative aide for a Virginia state senator. Dave's politics have been described as "just to the right of Pat Buchanan."


What a load...

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Good then I won't have mixed feelings if I ever have to fire back.
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On Monday, renowned author and humanitarian Dr. Jim Garrow made a shocking claim about what we can expect to see in Obama's second term.

Garrow made the following Facebook post:

I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not.” Those who will not are being removed.

So, who is the source?

Garrow replied: “The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.”

Understand, this is not coming from Mr. Bullhorn or Jesse Ventura, or from anyone else the left often dismisses with great ease.

Garrow is a well-respected activist and has spent much of his life rescuing infant girls from China, babies who would be killed under that country's one-child policy. He was also nominated for Nobel Peace Prize for his work.

His bio on Amazon.com reads:

Dr. James Garrow is the author of The Pink Pagoda: One Man’s Quest to End Gendercide in China. He has spent over $25 million over the past sixteen years rescuing an estimated 40,000 baby Chinese girls from near-certain death under China’s one-child-per-couple policy by facilitating international adoptions. He is the founder and executive director of the Bethune Institute’s Pink Pagoda schools, private English-immersion schools for Chinese children. Today he runs 168 schools with nearly 6,300 employees.

Continue reading: [link to www.examiner.com]
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


No surprise among most of us here, however it is good to hear someone other than ourselves make this public. Good post op.
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I may be wrong but firing on your own people in America is against everything we stand for..being able to keep and bare arms was meant to suppress an over reaching government and keep this country in the hands of the people not tyrants.

If he is doing this he needs to be impeached..NOW!! There is no greater threat to our country than a man who is awash in the arrogance of ill gotten power and greed.

How much longer can people keep turning their heads, this reminds me of the fairy tale .."The Emperor's New Clothes"..it only takes one person in a place of power to bring this whole mess down ...lets just hope somebody has the inner fortitude to do it...and soon ...for the sake of our nation.
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I may be wrong but firing on your own people in America is against everything we stand for..being able to keep and bare arms was meant to suppress an over reaching government and keep this country in the hands of the people not tyrants.

If he is doing this he needs to be impeached..NOW!! There is no greater threat to our country than a man who is awash in the arrogance of ill gotten power and greed.

How much longer can people keep turning their heads, this reminds me of the fairy tale .."The Emperor's New Clothes"..it only takes one person in a place of power to bring this whole mess down ...lets just hope somebody has the inner fortitude to do it...and soon ...for the sake of our nation.
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You can't impeach the only black president in US history because the bleeding heart liberals would self destruct due to overwhelming guilt.
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Mattis?

Oh that would just be too good to be true.

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