TIME is a concept, not a thing. The fourth dimension is motion, not time. Time is another tool for deception.

Yes, the measurement of movement is the Fourth Dimension.

Time is perception of the human mind.

YOU WOULD HEAR GAPS OR DISTORTION BECAUSE OF time dilation

It is correct because he left Earth while he was talking and never stopped.

If he lost signal by taking his hand off the mic then he would have to reconnect singal which would take only days (not 18 years since it is traveling the speed of light).

You Need the concept of time to Measure movement. This Is REALITY

It seems few know/understand this, and others can't fathom the possibility...this ironic given an endlessness of space and matter is unfathomable.

Thank you for this and the great post! I sure needed something like this, something to nourish my mind...

Do you think a closed Universe lends substantiation to the Universe being holographic? There being an interrelation between the two and the creation of the Universe?

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This is your belief. You do not know that.

Correct, but if there was "time dilation" than it would not become continuise.

Einstine created these thoght experaments so that he, and others could understand the concepts that we can only percieve in our reality.

Thank you for your kind words.

I'm afraid I'm a bit puzzled by what you mean. I am intrigued though. Could you go on?

OP It is your beliefe that you would hear it continuously.

So he could justify Evolution. So he did not have to live his life in fear.

That is true.

My point is Time is a belief. All we know is whats in front of us. Everything is moving. And you don't age less.

I think these theories are just that - theories.
For example I believe the speed of light is not a limit to velocity. What does matter is frame of reference.

Thank you, sir.

Time is just a theory.

Motion is fact.

Time is not a belief, if it were timeless than we would not age. And If time dialation is possible, witch was measured, so it is, than you would not age "less" You would age the same, but the people around you would age faster in there own demension. Einstein created a thott experiment to prove this.

Im sorry, it was referance frames.....

Time was never the fourth to begin with.

1- One
2- Division
3- Trinity - Id,Ego, Super-Ego - etc..
4- Wind, Fire, Water, Earth
5- Time

Why do we grow pubic hair when we start to get funny feelings in our guts?

Why do our fingers stop growing?

Why do age?

Because our DNA was written to do so.

I am out of the loop, sir.

Elaborate?

Things are the way the are because thats the way they were made to be.

The deeper you go into Science the clearer it is.

IMO physical timepassage entails formation and mutation of material shapes and their energymotion, as defined by a particular electromagnetic field set-up, in this case Earth e.m. field, in relation to axial rotation and orbital movement within the e.m. heliosphere of Sol, with all these movements together forming a cosmic dance within zero-point energy or etheric space and therefore collectively weaving a physical energy timefield, amen.
Psychological time imo is related to the frequency of thoughts and feelings within our consciousness and is therefore elastic in its experience and thus experiencing timelesness is related to experiencing pure awareness in stilness, in which thought and feelings have their origin. Pure awareness, feeling and thought are imo on a higher energylevel than the outside world and are therefore able to modify energies as defined by shapes and e.m. time itself.
Please point out the error in my way of reasoning, so I may learn from this mind exercise, thanks.

You do know of the Holographic Universe theory, right?

It seems to me that wherein the Universe is holographic then it would be a closed system.

Perhpas I'm wrong that there's a coorealation between the two with regard to the creation of the Universe, or it's that a closed or opened system does nothing to distinguish a holographic Universe from other creation models...it's just so rare (for me) to find someone who has a grasp on the universe being a closed system, and I just wanted to ask what you thought.

Ah shit... I didn't consider distance/light years.
It's a bit like Achilles and the tortoise I suppose.
Lightspeed is pretty slow at these scales.

So we if we agree with the cosmic speed limit and say the signal can only ever travel at a max of 100%c, when he reaches the same distance from Earth as the sun for example,
his next word would take 7 minutes to arrive.

As soon as he reaches 1ly out, his next word will take a year to reach Earth, 2ly and his next word will take 2 years to reach Earth and so on.

So not only will Earth hear gaps but those gaps will increase in duration as he travels.

In fact there is always a delay because the signal has a fixed speed, that of light and even though it's like really bloody fast, it's not instant, it can't be because it must travel... but at the start of his trip it's such a small distance it is not noticeable until he gets further out and the signal must travel further with each passing moment.

I sound like a retarded child trying to work that out but hey, it's very late here. :P

I like the way you think.

I am way past my bedtime but I will be sure to research the Holographic Universe Theory.

I will reply as to what my thoughts are tomorrow.

Thank you for the heads up. I had no idea.

I was there too. Believe me.

It is stated that it is a closed system because of the observance of degrigation of mater. If space is endless to infinity, than it would be stated that there is no closed system, but an endless open system.

good point !

I'm leaving the helm.

Have fun scholars and evolutionists. You are right. You know what's best for everybody.

I would like to discuss about the observance of time dialation with the atomic clocks. It is my firm belife that with Movement, atoms start to slow down because the atom is starting to travel at the speed that its electrons, protons, nuetrons, ect.. travel.

With this said, the clock that is not on earth, and flying in the plane, measured the time dialation because its atoms did not want to stay in motion because its relative speed of its components.

kind of like a resistance to wind. "Dark Mater"

Michael Talbot's Holographic Universe is a must read. I found this, an excerpt from the book. It's not expensive and I bet there's a copy of it in your library.

[link to spirit-of-one.com]

This is just an article I found on google. There's much more about the theory on the Internet.

[link to www.dailygalaxy.com]

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