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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31625978 Panama 01/22/2013 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FYI a refusal of feeding by artificial means (e.g. throat or stomach tube) can be a clause in a well-written Living Will... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19554329 & re: Original Documents - Living Will, Last Will, Power of Attorney, ID, etc.- The Originals are kept at home or in a safe deposit box - only copies are ever given to a hospital, nursing home, or doctor for their files. Be careful with the feeding tube clause in your living will. Even if you can eat solid food just fine, hospitals will insist on putting you on a feeding tube to save themselves the expense of having to hire staff to spoonfeed you and to decrease their chances of being sued if you should choke while being spoonfed. So if you get into an accident that requires you to be temporarily spoonfed prior to your potential full recovery, your living will could kick in and lead to your untimely demise if the hospital should decide that using a feeding tube is more expedient. |
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Ralph--a house dog User ID: 25802009 United States 01/22/2013 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My opinion is that they shouldn't put elderly people on death's door on life-support machines. Just let them die naturally and in peace. On the other hand, what I loathe is when they stop giving the person water and food to accelerate the end. As long as the person is able to eat and drink, they should. Once they're ready to die, they will refuse food automatically -- but letting someone die of starvation and dehydration seems cruel to me. Quoting: sylvie Agreed; this is horrible and so is one of the other alternatives they use. What is often done is to murder them using morphine-- death within 36 hours. Last Edited by Ralph--a house dog on 01/22/2013 12:51 PM "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas HIS NAME IS SETH RICH [link to biblicalselfdefense.com] [link to forum.1111ers.blog] Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU. "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein -'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose. You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32582377 Canada 01/22/2013 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy was before he died! Li Ching-Yuen or Li Ching-Yun was a Chinese herbalist, martial artist and tactical advisor. He claimed to be born in 1736, while disputed records suggest 1677. Both alleged lifespans of 197 and 256 years far exceed the longest confirmed lifespan of 122 years and 164 days of the French woman Jeanne Calment. [link to en.wikipedia.org] AND here we think we're old at 60! I wish I looked this good at 256!! [link to www.environmentalgraffiti.com] |
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Hypertiger User ID: 12277324 Canada 01/22/2013 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The global system is based on taking more power than you give to prolong existance. All such growth is exponential... Making the global system doomed to collapse because while it amasses ever greater power it becomes weaker and weaker. Because the power is from the people who have a limited amount to supply to the powerful to sustain their existance. Because the longer the lie you all believe is Truth is sustained...the more power it requires. Until it requires Truth to sustain it's existence...It then self destructs. taking more than you give is the same as chopping down trees faster than they regrow. sharing as equally as possible is chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow. which is way harder. It's easier to take more power than you give. The path of least resistance. The the global system itself is going to eliminate you...The universe is going to eliminate you. The 100% inside of the global system are being annihilated by the lie you all believe is Truth. but of course the bottom are the powerless that are the source of the power the powerful have. but at the bottom are the net producers of power and they support the net consumers of power above. most of the so called Strong/smart/rich/positive/white/liberal population of Earth are net consumers that live off the yield of the net producers Weak/dumb/poor/negative/black/conservatives who chop down trees faster than they regrow to supply the demand for yield by the top from the bottom. you all are trying to take more power than you give from each other. maintaining a balance is very hard...taking more than you give is easy...but in a closed system...the powerful eventually amass enough power to dominate the bottom and force them to give more power than they take to sustain...until they cease to exist. This is already going on and has been going on for all recorded history. Japan has been printing YEN or Japanese power to buy US Dollars or American power for 20 years to sustain themselves. Now the UK, EU, and USA, are doing that. There is no way to program a computer to care. And that is all you are doing when you are in money printing mode. To sustain the lie that the global system cares about you. It doesn't...well it has a maximum potnetial to sustain the illusion. when the net producers reach the maximum potnetial to sustain the net consumers or rich. The system collapses from the bottom up to the top. Billionaires and other powerful people have more power than those below so they can take massive hits. As the powerless at the other end are cut off from pay day. The deficits in the system support the surpluses. and the deficits have a maximum potential to be sustained. Austerity can't be postponed once the trees run out. The collapse of the lie is what you see when the positive phase that fooled you all can't be sustained. A forrest of trees that looked like it was never going to end. Until you see the end when the demand to avoid seeing the end can't be supplied. Of course the top has a different perspective than that of the bottom of the top. basically your emotions rule you all and the top rules them. Truth rules all. and the global system you all were created out of thin air within is a lie that is fighting Truth. But always loses. Because when a lie demands Truth to sustain it's existance...or requires infinite and indestructiable power. It can't obtain it...and then the lie you thought was Truth self destructs and is revealed. of course all you are seeing is hwen what you thought was truth being revealed to be a lie. Which will then collapse...into the negative phase of the lie. The last time these strange effects that couldn't be ignored showed up it was called the Great depression. Following the roaring 20's. It's been the roaring 6 decades since WW2. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32582377 Canada 01/22/2013 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America’s oldest teacher turns 99, refuses to retire Her students call her "Granny." She doesn't mind. Agnes Zhelesnik, America's oldest teacher, just turned 99 — and she has no plans to retire. [link to ca.news.yahoo.com] Good on her. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27158864 United States 01/22/2013 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And WHY NOT, pray tell?! If a young men can and do freely give up their young lives to protect the nation why can't some old goomer who has lived a great life for eighty years do the same hummmmm???!!I'm no young man but I don't want to cling to life with machines that will coast hundreds of thousands of dollar when my quality of life there after would be shit anyway!! If you care about your nation and young people don't be such a fucking COWARD!! When its time to go just GO!!Nobody lives in these bodies forever!! Its time people are honest about the situation the old should not be allowed to suck resoarces from the young for a few moment more of life in an old body that can no longer sustain itself on its own. Eighty sould be the limit for medicare and the like, rich or poor after eighty your own your own!! No more reasources for you! If you are in good enough shape to last longer fine! You have lived your life in such a manner that avoided health problem good for you, otherwise times up!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31759711 United States 01/22/2013 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is people live longer lives due to medical advances, but the quality of live went downhill because most people are chronically sick due to poisons in the food, the environment, stress and unhealthy life style depending on medical treatment to survive. We could have achieved life extension naturally and live healthy long lives, but this artificially sustained degenerative life...is it worth living that way? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31625978 Panama 01/22/2013 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The global system is based on taking more power than you give to prolong existance. Quoting: Hypertiger All such growth is exponential... Making the global system doomed to collapse because while it amasses ever greater power it becomes weaker and weaker. Because the power is from the people who have a limited amount to supply to the powerful to sustain their existance. Because the longer the lie you all believe is Truth is sustained...the more power it requires. Until it requires Truth to sustain it's existence...It then self destructs. taking more than you give is the same as chopping down trees faster than they regrow. sharing as equally as possible is chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow. which is way harder. It's easier to take more power than you give. The path of least resistance. The the global system itself is going to eliminate you...The universe is going to eliminate you. The 100% inside of the global system are being annihilated by the lie you all believe is Truth. but of course the bottom are the powerless that are the source of the power the powerful have. but at the bottom are the net producers of power and they support the net consumers of power above. most of the so called Strong/smart/rich/positive/white/liberal population of Earth are net consumers that live off the yield of the net producers Weak/dumb/poor/negative/black/conservatives who chop down trees faster than they regrow to supply the demand for yield by the top from the bottom. you all are trying to take more power than you give from each other. maintaining a balance is very hard...taking more than you give is easy...but in a closed system...the powerful eventually amass enough power to dominate the bottom and force them to give more power than they take to sustain...until they cease to exist. This is already going on and has been going on for all recorded history. Japan has been printing YEN or Japanese power to buy US Dollars or American power for 20 years to sustain themselves. Now the UK, EU, and USA, are doing that. There is no way to program a computer to care. And that is all you are doing when you are in money printing mode. To sustain the lie that the global system cares about you. It doesn't...well it has a maximum potnetial to sustain the illusion. when the net producers reach the maximum potnetial to sustain the net consumers or rich. The system collapses from the bottom up to the top. Billionaires and other powerful people have more power than those below so they can take massive hits. As the powerless at the other end are cut off from pay day. The deficits in the system support the surpluses. and the deficits have a maximum potential to be sustained. Austerity can't be postponed once the trees run out. The collapse of the lie is what you see when the positive phase that fooled you all can't be sustained. A forrest of trees that looked like it was never going to end. Until you see the end when the demand to avoid seeing the end can't be supplied. Of course the top has a different perspective than that of the bottom of the top. basically your emotions rule you all and the top rules them. Truth rules all. and the global system you all were created out of thin air within is a lie that is fighting Truth. But always loses. Because when a lie demands Truth to sustain it's existance...or requires infinite and indestructiable power. It can't obtain it...and then the lie you thought was Truth self destructs and is revealed. of course all you are seeing is hwen what you thought was truth being revealed to be a lie. Which will then collapse...into the negative phase of the lie. The last time these strange effects that couldn't be ignored showed up it was called the Great depression. Following the roaring 20's. It's been the roaring 6 decades since WW2. Excellent post! |
Anubis User ID: 4949345 Canada 01/22/2013 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JAPAN'S finance minister Taro Aso said the elderly should be allowed to "hurry up and die" instead of costing the government money for end-of-life medical care. Quoting: dikkie Aso, who also doubles as deputy prime minister, reportedly said during a meeting of the National Council on Social Security Reforms: "Heaven forbid if you are forced to live on when you want to die. You cannot sleep well when you think it's all paid by the government. "This won't be solved unless you let them hurry up and die," he said. [link to www.theaustralian.com.au] Mr. Aso is 72 years old himself. haha |
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ehecatl User ID: 32406897 Mexico 01/22/2013 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many from Japan and from the US, like me too, move to Latin America where one can meet all basic needs on $500 a month. Japan has the lowest birthrate in the world, far below replacement rate and the most rapid increasing elderly population in the world. Fukushima will only compound this effect. This Wiki page, "The Aging of Japan" is interesting to read. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
-GLP-Christian- User ID: 32821314 Sweden 01/22/2013 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And it's all part of Agenda 21. Dick Atta-boy, this jap devil, the death panels, abortion, euthanasia, and so on and so forth. This guy should off himself and all his relatives first and foremoste before anyone else. Go seppukku you japshit. Get saved wretch: [link to biblebelievers.com] Everything you need to know about islam: [link to prophetofdoom.net] The Jihad Triangle: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] FRANCE IS TEH GHEY! |
-GLP-Christian- User ID: 32821314 Sweden 01/22/2013 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is people live longer lives due to medical advances, but the quality of live went downhill because most people are chronically sick due to poisons in the food, the environment, stress and unhealthy life style depending on medical treatment to survive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759711 We could have achieved life extension naturally and live healthy long lives, but this artificially sustained degenerative life...is it worth living that way? You're a devil, keep your mouth shut. Who are you to decide anything you POS? Piss off and leave GLP alone you murderous scumbag. You NWO creeps are all the same. Last Edited by -GLP-Christian- on 01/22/2013 04:17 PM Get saved wretch: [link to biblebelievers.com] Everything you need to know about islam: [link to prophetofdoom.net] The Jihad Triangle: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] FRANCE IS TEH GHEY! |
-GLP-Christian- User ID: 32821314 Sweden 01/22/2013 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And WHY NOT, pray tell?! If a young men can and do freely give up their young lives to protect the nation why can't some old goomer who has lived a great life for eighty years do the same hummmmm???!!I'm no young man but I don't want to cling to life with machines that will coast hundreds of thousands of dollar when my quality of life there after would be shit anyway!! If you care about your nation and young people don't be such a fucking COWARD!! When its time to go just GO!!Nobody lives in these bodies forever!! Its time people are honest about the situation the old should not be allowed to suck resoarces from the young for a few moment more of life in an old body that can no longer sustain itself on its own. Eighty sould be the limit for medicare and the like, rich or poor after eighty your own your own!! No more reasources for you! If you are in good enough shape to last longer fine! You have lived your life in such a manner that avoided health problem good for you, otherwise times up!! You actually think this slippery slope propaganda is effective? The only effect you could have was to be a "good example" and kill yourself now. Then we'd be rid of you NWO POS right away, problem solved, because the problem here is you and the rest of the NWO crowd, you are all the problem. Get saved wretch: [link to biblebelievers.com] Everything you need to know about islam: [link to prophetofdoom.net] The Jihad Triangle: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] FRANCE IS TEH GHEY! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32582377 Canada 01/22/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what? Old people are shit. They should be sent to concentration camps. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32819780 You filthy little troll. Your a real low life. I'd LOVE for you to say that to my face so I can go and mess up yours. Sadly you weren't disciplined as a child for which your parents should have been beaten. Your a bain to society. Once the draft comes...I can't wait for you to go overseas and catch a bullet between the eyes. You scum! Grow up you sack of shit! |
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