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Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.

 
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Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.
yes, today this would be a simple thing to do, but in the sixties?
not so easy. this video will take a look at some of the issues involved this fakery and it just might have been cheaper and easier to have sent the 3 people up to the moon back in the sixties.

[link to www.youtube.com]


I lived back when this happened.
i also had family and family friends who worked with NASA back then.
i was just a kid then, now work as a video editor and engineer.

here are some examples of what videos looked like back then....


[link to www.youtube.com]


[link to www.youtube.com]

now look at more TV .... videos from the time and make up your own minds.
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Last Edited by psyoptics on 01/22/2013 09:49 AM
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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Re: Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.
[link to www.palantir.net]
read this article on how the SFX were done for 2001 space odyssey. now think how many people were involved in the making....10's...or 100's....maybe 1000's......film labs....video conversions...

all keeping quiet for...EVER?

[link to www.visual-memory.co.uk]
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Re: Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.
Great video - I like his style.

I feel privileged to have lived through that time.

We'd never have thought back then that we'd one day see a time when no-one alive had first hand experience of actually going there. We're fast approaching that day.

Thanks for posting.

P.S. Check out "The Dish" starring Sam Neill if you're feeling a little nostalgic for 1969.
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Re: Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.
the thing he is not mentioning is that the guys that run the world had technology 40 years in advance of its time back in 1969!

So it easy to fake shit at that time.

One of the reason JFK got murdered is becasue he planted the thoughts on the public that we want to go to the moon!

Those in power knows that we are not welcomed there and that the Kenedy space program was to expose the recent roswell incident! They toke him out because that would have undermined the hole secret about aliens on the moon. Those aliens are working in secret against all of us, including the dumb elites that really think that by serving them they will be spared... idiots.

Even obama talked that we could return to the moon eventualy... the programs was dissmissed by Nasa saying that it was impossible to pass the Van hallen belt without killing the crew!


How could they do it in 1969 and can't do it in 2013?
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Re: Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.
Well I remember watching it and the original TV footage was pretty crap so was quite hard to make anything out with the blurryness and ghosting effect.

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Re: Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.
I bet it was a LOT less trouble faking it than actually going!

....and what a pay out.
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Re: Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.
that guy is so much a paid actor... lol!

that video is so obvious. if hes not then hes not diging further down the rabiit hole, he prefer staying on the surface i guess!
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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Re: Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.
Well I remember watching it and the original TV footage was pretty crap so was quite hard to make anything out with the blurryness and ghosting effect.


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And I think even this quality is remastered.
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Re: Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.
so what would the reason be to fake the black eye of Apollo 13?
only to limp on and then de-fund the program several years later.
by 13 the public had almost forgot about the whole program.
why fake and major mishap and not a triumph?

so did they fake out the 1000's of NASA employees? or pay them off as well as the 1000's of people making the fake video images?
keep in mind this would have to have been shot on film.....
so that meant film processing and video conversion.
all back in the sixties was not so common place and need several people to work on that project.

i could see just one trip and they faked it.
but folks this was several. over about a decade. and not one person has come forward about this with actual proof.
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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Re: Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.
Armstrong himself did the best debunking of all, in the TV interview he did for the Aussies not long before he died.

Some people are too young to talk sense on the subject, or to even write properly.
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Re: Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.
Armstrong himself did the best debunking of all, in the TV interview he did for the Aussies not long before he died.

Some people are too young to talk sense on the subject, or to even write properly.
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I think it's in part 4...

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Re: Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.
so what would the reason be to fake the black eye of Apollo 13?
only to limp on and then de-fund the program several years later.
by 13 the public had almost forgot about the whole program.
why fake and major mishap and not a triumph?

so did they fake out the 1000's of NASA employees? or pay them off as well as the 1000's of people making the fake video images?
keep in mind this would have to have been shot on film.....
so that meant film processing and video conversion.
all back in the sixties was not so common place and need several people to work on that project.

i could see just one trip and they faked it.
but folks this was several. over about a decade. and not one person has come forward about this with actual proof.
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Maybe the vast majority of employees also thought it was real with just a few in the know.
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Re: Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.
the thing he is not mentioning is that the guys that run the world had technology 40 years in advance of its time back in 1969!
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People say that but nobody ever proves it. Having been in the military, most of what I saw was at least 10-15 years BEHIND the public. That is simply because it takes time to get contracts approved, and build the items.
IF there were people that did have technology 40 years ahead of everyone else, how come no one else happens across it? Technological breakthroughs don't happen in a vacuum. nearly every new advancement comes about because of other advancements and in turn help along other advancements. To have people so far ahead of anyone else they would have to have completely different science and somehow be able to stop everyone else in the world from stumbling on what they know. It is pretty far fetched.



How could they do it in 1969 and can't do it in 2013?
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Who has wanted to pay for it since then?
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Re: Did we go to the moon? Here is a good video that looks at how much trouble it would have been to FAKE it.
Yes.

And real technology, all the technology that has yet to be "revealed," shows a striking trend; higher technology has a larger footprint.

To smith a basic sword you could start with bog iron...add a little wood, some leather for the bellows, and you were there.

A flintlock could (barely) be made by a single blacksmith, as long as he had access to iron, charcoal (which was made in kilns, which required bricks to build and the right kind of wood to burn, which was then trucked surprising distances by mule train, which required muleteers and grains to feed them and so on...you can already see the footprint spreading.

A modern rifle requires steel, which requires Besemer or even more expensive processes, as well as requiring smokeless powder and the esoteric chemistry of primers, which require industrial-strength acids as starting points, which are the end result of long, complex, energy-intensive processes.

And although you could, technically, build the tools yourself to build the rifle, starting with nothing more than a rudimentary lathe, most are built by mills and stamping presses; even an individual hand-crafting one by himself does so with power tools he certainly didn't build himself -- power tools which require the infrastructure of the electric grid, of alloy and tool steel, which themselves requires small amounts of molybdenum and chromium et al, which require global trade, which require shipping as well as global financial systems...

So if there are Men In Black out there toting laser pistols, those are almost certainly the end-product of an entire subset of Silicon Valley; of chip fabrication techniques and batteries of unusual chemistry (to achieve unheard-of energy densities), etc. etc. etc.

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