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Senator Asks CIA Nominee When Drones Can Kill Americans

 
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The moment a drone kills an American on American soil all bets are off.
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Nothing will change. Patriots will bitch online and the sheep will bury their heads further in the sand.
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Why would anyone NOT be totally scared to death over this administration and its intent. I swear IF I ever run into anyone who voted for this dictator and his militant butt ugly wife I just might have to tell them what idiots they really are to vote for this dangerous communist !
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I'm sorry Sen. Wyden, that information you have requested is Classified for National Security Reasons.

Sincerely,
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There isnt any prohibition on armed aircraft being used by law enforcement in the US.

Its only a matter of time before armed drones are used to attack American citizens, unless something tremendous is done to preclude that from happening.
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The moment a drone kills an American on American soil all bets are off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25242396


They prolly already started... They call it something else but when a building is obliterated, it don't look like what they said...

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People talk about our "Wild West" history! This is worse. At least in the "Wild West" the bad guy had to come to town before the posse got after him! Before the good guy could shoot him down in the street!

Looks like they were more civilized back then.
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"the urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it." -- anonymously brilliant.
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"the urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it." -- anonymously brilliant.
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That's a truism.

The corollary:
"The urge to cull humanity is always a thin false front for the urge to be left the fuck alone" - me
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Yep, great find!

I think congresspeople such as this guy are brave to ask such a question.

If federal representatives had any shred of integrity, every single one of them would be up in arms about this and demanding no drones over the skies of their constituents....

alas, they are so corrupt.

It is my belief that all humans inherintly are bad, and that if individuals, especially when together as a group, hold power for any length of time, eventually they become corrupt.
This is why I believe that the safest and best form of government is the smallest, or in a utopia, there would be no government.

Look through history: every single government paradigm, no matter how pure it began as, eventually devolves into an oligarchy of a small group of elite who use power to terrorize and steal from the massive majority.
Examples include: Roman Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Nazism, Socialism, Communist Soviet Union, current United States, etc.
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What the fucking egotistical representatives don't seem to get is that those drones could very well target them!
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Yep, great find!

I think congresspeople such as this guy are brave to ask such a question.

If federal representatives had any shred of integrity, every single one of them would be up in arms about this and demanding no drones over the skies of their constituents....

alas, they are so corrupt.

It is my belief that all humans inherintly are bad, and that if individuals, especially when together as a group, hold power for any length of time, eventually they become corrupt.
This is why I believe that the safest and best form of government is the smallest, or in a utopia, there would be no government.

Look through history: every single government paradigm, no matter how pure it began as, eventually devolves into an oligarchy of a small group of elite who use power to terrorize and steal from the massive majority.
Examples include: Roman Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Nazism, Socialism, Communist Soviet Union, current United States, etc.
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


clappaclappaclappa

You can go all the way back to Egyptians, Assyrians and Greek empires

Everyone ended after they became self absorbed in their own greed and corruption before their eventual downfall.


Fear and greed, it's the tools they use to keep the masses in check.
Been doing it for a millennia now and still we don't see through the bullshit
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bump
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this is some scary stuff

did this make the local news or national news?
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I have no idea. Probably not.
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I'm from Oregon, allow me to answer this: NO.

While I do not typically endorse democrats, I did vote for Wyden to be re-elected. He's not a party-line democrat. He's the one that Obama threatened previously when the POTUS said, "We're keeping score," comment.
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The moment a drone kills an American on American soil all bets are off.
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Nothing will change. Patriots will bitch online and the sheep will bury their heads further in the sand.
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Really? What happened between 1765 and April 19th,1775?

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I want to work for the government as a drone pilot, that would be the shit. I'd fly over my ex girlfriends house and blow it the fuck up and blame it on malfunctioning software. I'd probably get promoted too.
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Ban drones.
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Really? What happened between 1765 and April 19th,1775?
 Quoting: s. d. butler


People started shooting uniformed army soldiers and officers, as well as police. Is that where you want to go with this?
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The moment a drone kills an American on American soil all bets are off.
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Really? I guess those houses in Indiana just exploded.

Gas lines, eh?
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:bumps:
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Really? What happened between 1765 and April 19th,1775?
 Quoting: s. d. butler


People started shooting uniformed army soldiers and officers, as well as police. Is that where you want to go with this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


The point was in reply to a poster who said nothing will happen. That people are all talk and no walk.

We are going through the same period of agitation for good and real reasons now as Americans did between 1765 and 1775.

The British army killed colonials at the Boston Massacre.

Is that where you want to go with this?

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You are so lost and way off base about your assumptions. But maybe you will some day figure out who your real enemies are. All of you blaming Muslims tells me all I need to know. Al Qaeda is fake. Look it up. Look up who is really behind 9 11. The lie of the century. When you start to research 911 you won't sound so stupid when you post. Or...maybe you can't handle that your own govt was behind it.
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like i said before.. it will never pass congress
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so the uber rich are going to use "drones" to do this?
how long intell the uber rich unleash the "robot" armys
on the "people",
you know they must have been makeing them,
think about it, they have no need for the lesser classes, or at least most of the lesser classes,
are we see the great
"change",
again?
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Ohhhh. Thank you. I've been asking how they would distribute money to the non-working public to eat and live on after machines take over all manual labor jobs. You answered by telling me there would be no need for the lesser classes. You are right and I missed that. They might need a few for menial jobs, like shopping on the Jewish sabbath and such, but mostly the masses are marked for extinction.
I guess it will be heaven on earth for the 500,000 or so that are allowed to live on earth ...after...
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The moment a drone kills an American on American soil all bets are off.
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yeah yeah....talking is not walking
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this is some scary stuff

did this make the local news or national news?
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lol, it would if we had journalists instead of Godbels propagandists at ABC CBS NBC, "MS"M
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You are so lost and way off base about your assumptions. But maybe you will some day figure out who your real enemies are. All of you blaming Muslims tells me all I need to know. Al Qaeda is fake. Look it up. Look up who is really behind 9 11. The lie of the century. When you start to research 911 you won't sound so stupid when you post. Or...maybe you can't handle that your own govt was behind it.
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You must be new around here.
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The moment a drone kills an American on American soil all bets are off.
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Due process.

It's only a matter of time until it happens, but they actually have no legal cover for non-judicial killings without due process.

Due process actually includes a whole gamut of rights and regulations governing the disposition of the accused. The basic precept that you have a right to meet your accusers face-to-face in court is fundamental to our justice system.

The drones will be seen increasingly in our skies, patrolling and monitoring - building the patterns that they will meld with the cyberstalking and financial stalking systems already in place, cell phones, cameras... Your every action will be observed and judged with cold indifference by those in power, and they will impute motives and intent to those actions as it suits them...

Sometimes - because they fear you will act against them, sometimes - just to take what is yours to use for their purposes... Sometimes just for convenience - like when they need a kidney, or corneas...

The day will come when there will be nowhere to hide from the awful hand of tyranny...

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Sen Ron Wyden also went to visit Fukushima in Japan and pretty much blew the whistle on it's current condition.

There are still good people in gov. Very few unfortunately...
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Is that where you want to go with this?
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Let's just say, for the sake of example, that CNN just now reported the following:

"Drone Strike Kills 15 Terrorist Suspects in Ohio."

Assume that these were US nationals "with ties to Al-Qaeda." Drug dealers. Arms dealers. Whatever, but they were Americans and they got gunned down by a drone without any kind of warning.

I doubt that they would admit it was a drone strike (probably blame gas lines), but IF THEY DID... are you telling me that you personally would go start shooting?

Do you think anyone else would?

I really doubt that. Unless you think they would, it sort of destroys your idea that the ball would drop when drone strikes in the US begin.
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Is that where you want to go with this?
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Let's just say, for the sake of example, that CNN just now reported the following:

"Drone Strike Kills 15 Terrorist Suspects in Ohio."

Assume that these were US nationals "with ties to Al-Qaeda." Drug dealers. Arms dealers. Whatever, but they were Americans and they got gunned down by a drone without any kind of warning.

I doubt that they would admit it was a drone strike (probably blame gas lines), but IF THEY DID... are you telling me that you personally would go start shooting?

Do you think anyone else would?

I really doubt that. Unless you think they would, it sort of destroys your idea that the ball would drop when drone strikes in the US begin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


You have me confused with someone else. Someone else said that.

I have no idea what will happen or when.

Of course there is and will be massive PTB propaganda, both black and white featuring lies and bigger lies.



That is a big part of the conflict we are in. The rather simpleminded people who constantly blather fear porn about the power of the gubmint don't seem to realize that though.

Probably a good thing though that they have no concept of 4th and 5th gen warfare.

Try someone else, see if they will answer the silly question.

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Well they can kill themselves for the Al-CIA in syria





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