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Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/23/2013 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the post I have been wondering how much bleach to put in my 2 loiter bottles now I know how much since they hold half gallon of water. Quoting: pmb1 Yeah you only need a drop or two, let it sit overnight and it will be good to drink.. thanks for your post.. "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
Brad Daylight User ID: 1779676 United States 01/23/2013 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.sierratradingpost.com] That is a good thing to have, remember that this may not kill certain parasite eggs and it will not remove chemical contaminants from dirty water. "I have felt despair many times in my life, but I do not keep a chair for it." ~Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes Today is a gift, that is why it is called "The Present" “When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already… What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.” - Adolf Hitler “If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.” -Oscar Wilde Have a nice day, may God bless you :D |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30846516 United States 01/23/2013 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the info. Here's some more to share. Purify 10,000 gallons of water with 1 pound of calcium hypochlorite. Here's a post from an earlier thread on this subject... Calcium hypochlorite is one of the best chemical disinfectants for water, better than household bleach by far. It destroys a variety of disease causing organisms including bacteria, yeast, fungus, spores, and viruses. Calcium Hypochlorite is widely available for use as swimming pool chlorine tablets or white powder that is much more stable than chlorine. This is often known as “pool shock”. How to Disinfect Water Using Calcium Hypochlorite Using granular calcium hypochlorite to disinfect water is a two step process. * To make a stock of chlorine solution (do not drink this!) dissolve 1 heaping teaspoon (about one-quarter of an ounce) of high-test (78%) granular calcium hypochlorite for each two gallons (eight liters) of water. * To disinfect water add one part of the chlorine solution to 100 parts water to be treated. * Let the mixture sit for at least one-half hour before drinking. Be sure to obtain the dry granular calcium hypochlorite since once it is made into a liquid solution it will begin to degrade and eventually become useless as a disinfecting agent. This also means you should make your treated drinking water in small batches, for example enough for a few weeks at a time at most. Another plus for using calcium hypochlorite to disinfect water for emergency use is that a little goes a very long way. A 1-pound bag of calcium hypochlorite in granular form typically costs only a few US dollars and can be obtained in any swimming pool supply section of your hardware store or online. This amount will treat up to 10,000 gallons of drinking water, which is enough for a family of four for some six or seven years at a gallon per day per person! Calcium hypochlorite will store for a long period of time and remain effective as a chemical drinking water treatment. So get rid of the household bleach and buy a can of Calcium hypochlorite for your disaster emergency water disinfection needs. It lasts far longer and treats far more water than the traditional chlorine bleach water disinfection treatment. Store in a ziplock baggie or a glass jar without a metal lid. This can not touch metal as it is corrosive. Indefinite shelf life. |
Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/23/2013 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.sierratradingpost.com] Quoting: Brad Daylight That is a good thing to have, remember that this may not kill certain parasite eggs and it will not remove chemical contaminants from dirty water. Great advice, the Steri-pen is great and for most applications will work excellent. I use that for camping. "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
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Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/23/2013 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the info. Here's some more to share. Purify 10,000 gallons of water with 1 pound of calcium hypochlorite. Here's a post from an earlier thread on this subject... Quoting: AC 5341 Calcium hypochlorite is one of the best chemical disinfectants for water, better than household bleach by far. It destroys a variety of disease causing organisms including bacteria, yeast, fungus, spores, and viruses. Calcium Hypochlorite is widely available for use as swimming pool chlorine tablets or white powder that is much more stable than chlorine. This is often known as “pool shock”. How to Disinfect Water Using Calcium Hypochlorite Using granular calcium hypochlorite to disinfect water is a two step process. * To make a stock of chlorine solution (do not drink this!) dissolve 1 heaping teaspoon (about one-quarter of an ounce) of high-test (78%) granular calcium hypochlorite for each two gallons (eight liters) of water. * To disinfect water add one part of the chlorine solution to 100 parts water to be treated. * Let the mixture sit for at least one-half hour before drinking. Be sure to obtain the dry granular calcium hypochlorite since once it is made into a liquid solution it will begin to degrade and eventually become useless as a disinfecting agent. This also means you should make your treated drinking water in small batches, for example enough for a few weeks at a time at most. Another plus for using calcium hypochlorite to disinfect water for emergency use is that a little goes a very long way. A 1-pound bag of calcium hypochlorite in granular form typically costs only a few US dollars and can be obtained in any swimming pool supply section of your hardware store or online. This amount will treat up to 10,000 gallons of drinking water, which is enough for a family of four for some six or seven years at a gallon per day per person! Calcium hypochlorite will store for a long period of time and remain effective as a chemical drinking water treatment. So get rid of the household bleach and buy a can of Calcium hypochlorite for your disaster emergency water disinfection needs. It lasts far longer and treats far more water than the traditional chlorine bleach water disinfection treatment. Store in a ziplock baggie or a glass jar without a metal lid. This can not touch metal as it is corrosive. Indefinite shelf life. Great Post!!! I did not know that. I actually have some old "pool shock" in the shed i will check tomorrow. much thanks "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
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MuslimAmerican User ID: 26542172 United States 01/23/2013 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice thread thanks for sharing, already have the information in 1000's of survival e-books I have backed-up, but this information should help people out who're unsure of where to get started and whats most vital to have. Feed the hungry, visit the sick, free a captive if he be unjustly confined(kidnapped/enslaved by someone). Assist any person oppressed, whether they're of the Muslim or non-Muslim. - Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) |
Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/23/2013 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice thread thanks for sharing, already have the information in 1000's of survival e-books I have backed-up, but this information should help people out who're unsure of where to get started and whats most vital to have. Quoting: MuslimAmerican Yes you bring up a good point. This is not intended to be the end all informational thread on water, That would be impossible. This is just to get people thinking and give some simple and easy ways to store some away or some simple ways to kill the bugs in your pond water out back. It will take anyone just understanding the need for this some time to read a few survival books and study up on the subject. Any advice or tips from anyone are welcome, I don't know everything and i like learning your methods as well.. thanks... "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25450407 United States 01/23/2013 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Katadyn Base Camp" filter sytem [link to www.amazon.com] for which you NEED this filter! (ceramic - MUCH better and much longer lasting than the supplied filter) [link to www.amazon.com] for "prefiltering" prior to the water contacting the filter itself use a 10 micron diesel filter sheet wrapped around the filter and held in place with rubber bands (and of course try to use crystal clear water) ------------------------------------------ for on the go: [link to www.amazon.com] |
Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/23/2013 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Katadyn Base Camp" filter sytem Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25450407 [link to www.amazon.com] for which you NEED this filter! (ceramic - MUCH better and much longer lasting than the supplied filter) [link to www.amazon.com] for "prefiltering" prior to the water contacting the filter itself use a 10 micron diesel filter sheet wrapped around the filter and held in place with rubber bands (and of course try to use crystal clear water) ------------------------------------------ for on the go: [link to www.amazon.com] great product, and reletivly cheap also: The convenient (and lazy) way for safe potable drinking water - just fill and hang No pumping required - ideal for camping, backpacking, canoeing, paddling, etc. Produces up to 2.5 gallons of treated water in just 15 minutes Uses field cleanable Hiker PRO cartridge Filters 200+ gallons of water (more when using Filter Protector) She is cute, "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
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'LIL ANGEL User ID: 1053878 United States 01/23/2013 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These pumps are real workhorses: the Amish use them for their farming and livestock operations. Designed for hard, everyday use, this model is ideal for yard use in forcing water to house or barn. Maximum depth: 200' (by hand or with windmill) 36-1⁄4"L handle 9" stroke (not adjustable) Note: We also carry the necessary Cylinder, Drop Pipe and Pump Rod relevant to your specific application. If you have questions, please call our Water Pump Specialists at 1-888-438-5346. I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Jesus Christ Stay small(in ego), stay teachable(in life), stay in the basics(keep it simple) and pay attention(to guidance). me Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behavior does. anonymous |
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Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/23/2013 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.lehmans.com (secure)] Quoting: 'LIL ANGEL These pumps are real workhorses: the Amish use them for their farming and livestock operations. Designed for hard, everyday use, this model is ideal for yard use in forcing water to house or barn. Maximum depth: 200' (by hand or with windmill) 36-1⁄4"L handle 9" stroke (not adjustable) Note: We also carry the necessary Cylinder, Drop Pipe and Pump Rod relevant to your specific application. If you have questions, please call our Water Pump Specialists at 1-888-438-5346. That is a very expensive option and not really worth it in my opinion. In the description is says: Note: We also carry the necessary Cylinder, Drop Pipe and Pump Rod relevant to your specific application How much will the accessories and drop pipe run you? I assume over a grand to get it installed. For a full time well without electricity (Like the Amish) that is a great option, just not money well spent for the average joe. The Well Bucket will Do the same thing in an emergency, and only is a few bucks in parts. "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
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'LIL ANGEL User ID: 1053878 United States 01/23/2013 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.lehmans.com (secure)] Quoting: 'LIL ANGEL These pumps are real workhorses: the Amish use them for their farming and livestock operations. Designed for hard, everyday use, this model is ideal for yard use in forcing water to house or barn. Maximum depth: 200' (by hand or with windmill) 36-1⁄4"L handle 9" stroke (not adjustable) Note: We also carry the necessary Cylinder, Drop Pipe and Pump Rod relevant to your specific application. If you have questions, please call our Water Pump Specialists at 1-888-438-5346. That is a very expensive option and not really worth it in my opinion. In the description is says: Note: We also carry the necessary Cylinder, Drop Pipe and Pump Rod relevant to your specific application How much will the accessories and drop pipe run you? I assume over a grand to get it installed. For a full time well without electricity (Like the Amish) that is a great option, just not money well spent for the average joe. The Well Bucket will Do the same thing in an emergency, and only is a few bucks in parts. Yes it it is too expensive and then the accessories on top, send it over, the top. This is a great thread, thank you. I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Jesus Christ Stay small(in ego), stay teachable(in life), stay in the basics(keep it simple) and pay attention(to guidance). me Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behavior does. anonymous |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9107938 United States 01/23/2013 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guy next door to me, who is 83 years old, buried a 500 gallon tank in his backyard and has a system where all his gutter water goes into the tank. Pretty freaking elaborate system. He hooked all the downspouts into one main PVC pipe which is buried and flows into the tank. Then he has an overflow system made out of PVC that flows the excess back into the street. This guy even had someone come out and cut a section of the curb out so the pipe fits perfect and a J pipe pipe to get the water past the cut section of the curb so it doesnt flow back into his yard. All perfectly legal, how I dont know. And he hooked a sump pump onto it and uses this system to water his grass and garden. This guy is the ultimate prepper. He has a 13,500 watt propane generator that he rigged to power into his main circuit breaker. Didnt even know they made those. Its funny to talk about prepping to him, he always talks about "those god damn japs", lol. He swears they're simply regrouping and plan to come back and attack soon. He says he's ready for them this time. |
Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/23/2013 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guy next door to me, who is 83 years old, buried a 500 gallon tank in his backyard and has a system where all his gutter water goes into the tank. Pretty freaking elaborate system. He hooked all the downspouts into one main PVC pipe which is buried and flows into the tank. Then he has an overflow system made out of PVC that flows the excess back into the street. This guy even had someone come out and cut a section of the curb out so the pipe fits perfect and a J pipe pipe to get the water past the cut section of the curb so it doesnt flow back into his yard. All perfectly legal, how I dont know. And he hooked a sump pump onto it and uses this system to water his grass and garden. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9107938 This guy is the ultimate prepper. He has a 13,500 watt propane generator that he rigged to power into his main circuit breaker. Didnt even know they made those. Its funny to talk about prepping to him, he always talks about "those god damn japs", lol. He swears they're simply regrouping and plan to come back and attack soon. He says he's ready for them this time. LOL, great story, I would be making good friends with that guy.. thanks "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32909100 United States 01/23/2013 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The WaterBOB is simple enough. It is a heavy duty plastic water storage container that you place in your bathtub and fill up. The bathtub itself supports the bag. The bag has a tube that you place over the faucet for filling." Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence Holds up to 100 Gallons FDA Food Grade 10 mil plastic bag Siphon Pump for Dispensing. [link to survivalcache.com] [link to www.amazon.com] this is a good invention |
Water Boy User ID: 140124 Canada 01/23/2013 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.amazon.com] It should be a high, high priority on a prepper's list. A good second option is the $30 Berkey sport bottle. Much less filtering capacity...from their site... [link to www.berkeyfilters.com] Water From Questionable Source: 160 Refills (25 gallons) Municipal Water supply: 640 Refills (100 Gallons) Worth checking out, same micron size filter as the katadyn I was told by Berkey. I have both for backpacking. And, of course, if TSHTF. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30846516 United States 01/23/2013 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guy next door to me, who is 83 years old, buried a 500 gallon tank in his backyard and has a system where all his gutter water goes into the tank. Pretty freaking elaborate system. He hooked all the downspouts into one main PVC pipe which is buried and flows into the tank. Then he has an overflow system made out of PVC that flows the excess back into the street. This guy even had someone come out and cut a section of the curb out so the pipe fits perfect and a J pipe pipe to get the water past the cut section of the curb so it doesnt flow back into his yard. All perfectly legal, how I dont know. And he hooked a sump pump onto it and uses this system to water his grass and garden. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9107938 This guy is the ultimate prepper. He has a 13,500 watt propane generator that he rigged to power into his main circuit breaker. Didnt even know they made those. Its funny to talk about prepping to him, he always talks about "those god damn japs", lol. He swears they're simply regrouping and plan to come back and attack soon. He says he's ready for them this time. Freakin hillarious ! Thanks, needed a laugh. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30425386 United States 01/23/2013 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many Americans have at least a month of Water stored? Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence Survival can be broken down into the rule of 3's You can only survive.... 3 SECONDS without HOPE, 3 MINUTES without AIR, 3 HOURS without SHELTER, 3 DAYS without WATER, 3 WEEKS without FOOD, 3 MONTHS without LOVE... I heard that very quote on the new episode of Dual Survival last week. Poser? |