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Well, you don't have "one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all" under God!

Besides, I don't know how many times I heard Obama refer to God! Too many times to count!

Yet, you want to nit-pic on this one instance, when Obama wasn't even the one who was speaking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 252372


What GOD does he speak with?
Susie

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She starts out by talking about the "golden dome" of the nation's capital. I may not be in Washington DC but seems to me the dome of the capital is WHITE? You know which one is golden? The Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem.

"The Dome of the Rock is in the centre of a greater Muslim shrine"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I caught that.
Golden dome refers to Islam. Not DC.
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America has NEVER BEEN a "Christian" nation! America was founded as a nation for ALL religions. The words Christ, Christian, nor Jesus are written in ANY founding document.
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Sorry to break it to you, but America was FOUNDED as a Judeo-Christian nation and built on Judeo-Christian principles. That's a fact whether you and the atheists like it or not. Freedom of religion is a separate issue from our founding principles, and yes America is a nation for all religions. You are free to practice whatever religion you like, which is one of the reasons America is so great.

America has lost her way due to the fact she has been turned away from those Judeo-Christian principles. When we have a president who has "Under God" removed from his invocation, we are in real trouble.
 Quoting: DT2


Malarkey.

“The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” ~ John Adams

God is left out of the documents with an explicit purpose. The church and the state were intended to be separate, always. Because the church represented something else, a foreign power with foreign influence. It's really quite simple to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32638535



Then who do you think the Founding Father's were basing the Nation on? They came from Britian under a Monarchy , so who did they think they were creating a new governmemt on???

This Nation was started by a Nation that would be Blessed by GOD.... (The GOD of ABRAHAM, ISSAC and JACOB)

 Quoting: christian


Oh, I don't know. The people that inhabited the country at the time, maybe? You know "We the people" ? And the whole idea of government, modeled after the Romans?
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Well, you don't have "one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all" under God!

Besides, I don't know how many times I heard Obama refer to God! Too many times to count!

Yet, you want to nit-pic on this one instance, when Obama wasn't even the one who was speaking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 252372


What GOD does he speak with?
 Quoting: christian


Do YOU hear voices?
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Sorry to break it to you, but America was FOUNDED as a Judeo-Christian nation and built on Judeo-Christian principles. That's a fact whether you and the atheists like it or not. Freedom of religion is a separate issue from our founding principles, and yes America is a nation for all religions. You are free to practice whatever religion you like, which is one of the reasons America is so great.

America has lost her way due to the fact she has been turned away from those Judeo-Christian principles. When we have a president who has "Under God" removed from his invocation, we are in real trouble.
 Quoting: DT2


Malarkey.

“The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” ~ John Adams

God is left out of the documents with an explicit purpose. The church and the state were intended to be separate, always. Because the church represented something else, a foreign power with foreign influence. It's really quite simple to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32638535



Then who do you think the Founding Father's were basing the Nation on? They came from Britian under a Monarchy , so who did they think they were creating a new governmemt on???

This Nation was started by a Nation that would be Blessed by GOD.... (The GOD of ABRAHAM, ISSAC and JACOB)

 Quoting: christian


Oh, I don't know. The people that inhabited the country at the time, maybe? You know "We the people" ? And the whole idea of government, modeled after the Romans?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32638535



Government was created by GOD it was ordained by GOD for man to live by, that is the Government we were modeled after

If not we would have an Emperor and Serfs in the USA...
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Well, you don't have "one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all" under God!

Besides, I don't know how many times I heard Obama refer to God! Too many times to count!

Yet, you want to nit-pic on this one instance, when Obama wasn't even the one who was speaking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 252372


What GOD does he speak with?
 Quoting: christian


Do YOU hear voices?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32638535


Do I hear voices? Yes when someone speaks to me....
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Well, you don't have "one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all" under God!

Besides, I don't know how many times I heard Obama refer to God! Too many times to count!

Yet, you want to nit-pic on this one instance, when Obama wasn't even the one who was speaking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 252372


[link to www.youtube.com]

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dude OP your find and your Video right here both deserve 5*'s in different threads I really havnt noticed the hand signs
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You people are absolutely ridiculous. You realize that 'under god' was only added a few decades ago right? It has no purpose in government. Separation of church and state was a very important distinction for the founding fathers. Besides, this isn't a nation under any one god as you all know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15343696


The criminal code is based on the Ten Commandments,
a portion of Mosaic Law.

The Declaration of Independence begins:

We hold these truths
to be self evident,
that all man
is created equal,
that they are endowed,
by their Creator,
with certain
inalienable rights. . .

The settlers of America were Protestant,
fleeing Catholic controlled monarchies of
England, Spain and France.

The flight was for ownership of Bibles,
which the Catholic church had banned,
for proclamation of the mission of Jesus
Christ, and his resurrection, which the
Catholic church does not recognize.
Catholic armies of controlled
monarchies persecuted Martin Luther and his followers
for exposure of the mission of Christ and
resurrection, after Protestants obtained copies
and read them.

Protestant = Protestors of Catholicism.

The Catholic church worships the crucifixion,
not Christ's work in the Garden of Gethsemane where
he took the sins of all mankind upon himself,
so he could grant forgiveness to those who would
repent, and not his resurrection, power achieved
over death so he could give that freely to all
mankind.

Birth = Spirit gets a mortal body.
Death = Spirit and body separate.
Resurrection = Spirit and body are rejoined in perfect
form, (exalted beyond mortality) never to die again.

The founders established freedom to worship free
of federal mandate, not freedom from worship for
employees of the federal government.

Obama specifically is barred by the Constitution
from requiring that all people shall worship Allah,
or doorknobs or Satan, or goats, much to his chagrin.

Congress is still free to hold prayer to open sessions.
Any judge is Constitutionally free to post the Ten
Commandments in a courtroom, which is the basis of
the criminal code,
and, WE The People are free to consider ourselves, a
nation under God, if we desire, and to voice that
in unison, as a pledge.

A minority of blacks may not agree, but they did not
found this nation.
A minority of muslims may not agree, but they did
not found this nation and they have no place here.
A minority of Catholic hispanics may not agree,
but this nation was founded despite their detrimental
presence on the southern border and continuing
invasion to destroy what is America to this day.

By the huge majority of 280 million white folks,
by whom and for whom this nation was founded, we
desire to unite under God.
Janus198
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Malarkey.

“The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” ~ John Adams

God is left out of the documents with an explicit purpose. The church and the state were intended to be separate, always. Because the church represented something else, a foreign power with foreign influence. It's really quite simple to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32638535



Then who do you think the Founding Father's were basing the Nation on? They came from Britian under a Monarchy , so who did they think they were creating a new governmemt on???

This Nation was started by a Nation that would be Blessed by GOD.... (The GOD of ABRAHAM, ISSAC and JACOB)

 Quoting: christian


Oh, I don't know. The people that inhabited the country at the time, maybe? You know "We the people" ? And the whole idea of government, modeled after the Romans?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32638535



Government was created by GOD it was ordained by GOD for man to live by, that is the Government we were modeled after

If not we would have an Emperor and Serfs in the USA...
 Quoting: christian


History doesn't support your claim. Nor does common sense. Mixing state + religion = shit. Case in point? Saudia Arabia. Iran. Etc.

The UK is secular, even with all their ministries. Why do you suppose that is?
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You people are absolutely ridiculous. You realize that 'under god' was only added a few decades ago right? It has no purpose in government. Separation of church and state was a very important distinction for the founding fathers. Besides, this isn't a nation under any one god as you all know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15343696


The criminal code is based on the Ten Commandments,
a portion of Mosaic Law.

The Declaration of Independence begins:

We hold these truths
to be self evident,
that all man
is created equal,
that they are endowed,
by their Creator,
with certain
inalienable rights. . .

The settlers of America were Protestant,
fleeing Catholic controlled monarchies of
England, Spain and France.

The flight was for ownership of Bibles,
which the Catholic church had banned,
for proclamation of the mission of Jesus
Christ, and his resurrection, which the
Catholic church does not recognize.
Catholic armies of controlled
monarchies persecuted Martin Luther and his followers
for exposure of the mission of Christ and
resurrection, after Protestants obtained copies
and read them.

Protestant = Protestors of Catholicism.

The Catholic church worships the crucifixion,
not Christ's work in the Garden of Gethsemane where
he took the sins of all mankind upon himself,
so he could grant forgiveness to those who would
repent, and not his resurrection, power achieved
over death so he could give that freely to all
mankind.

Birth = Spirit gets a mortal body.
Death = Spirit and body separate.
Resurrection = Spirit and body are rejoined in perfect
form, (exalted beyond mortality) never to die again.

The founders established freedom to worship free
of federal mandate, not freedom from worship for
employees of the federal government.

Obama specifically is barred by the Constitution
from requiring that all people shall worship Allah,
or doorknobs or Satan, or goats, much to his chagrin.

Congress is still free to hold prayer to open sessions.
Any judge is Constitutionally free to post the Ten
Commandments in a courtroom, which is the basis of
the criminal code,
and, WE The People are free to consider ourselves, a
nation under God, if we desire, and to voice that
in unison, as a pledge.

A minority of blacks may not agree, but they did not
found this nation.
A minority of muslims may not agree, but they did
not found this nation and they have no place here.
A minority of Catholic hispanics may not agree,
but this nation was founded despite their detrimental
presence on the southern border and continuing
invasion to destroy what is America to this day.

By the huge majority of 280 million white folks,
by whom and for whom this nation was founded, we
desire to unite under God.
 Quoting: Janus198


And that doesn't even matter now. What matters now is whom the people are today. Not 200+ years ago. And if you believe otherwise, perhaps North Korea or China would be a better climate for you.
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OP's video is of course axed of her saying Jesus and God and blah blah blah. 3 people tweeted this SHIT. lollol
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These are the ONLY two videos recited over and over and over lol. The proofs in the pudding,man up and accept it they were black. If you knew anything you'd atleast know the real name of the land was Kemet, the greeks named it egypt. Get a clue bro, until then suspend your "ancient egyptian caucasian pharaohs theory" research. You sound dumb.peace
 Quoting: ME 3961058


You people are absolutely ridiculous. You realize that 'under god' was only added a few decades ago right? It has no purpose in government. Separation of church and state was a very important distinction for the founding fathers. Besides, this isn't a nation under any one god as you all know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15343696


The criminal code is based on the Ten Commandments,
a portion of Mosaic Law.

The Declaration of Independence begins:

We hold these truths
to be self evident,
that all man
is created equal,
that they are endowed,
by their Creator,
with certain
inalienable rights. . .

The settlers of America were Protestant,
fleeing Catholic controlled monarchies of
England, Spain and France.

The flight was for ownership of Bibles,
which the Catholic church had banned,
for proclamation of the mission of Jesus
Christ, and his resurrection, which the
Catholic church does not recognize.
Catholic armies of controlled
monarchies persecuted Martin Luther and his followers
for exposure of the mission of Christ and
resurrection, after Protestants obtained copies
and read them.

Protestant = Protestors of Catholicism.

The Catholic church worships the crucifixion,
not Christ's work in the Garden of Gethsemane where
he took the sins of all mankind upon himself,
so he could grant forgiveness to those who would
repent, and not his resurrection, power achieved
over death so he could give that freely to all
mankind.

Birth = Spirit gets a mortal body.
Death = Spirit and body separate.
Resurrection = Spirit and body are rejoined in perfect
form, (exalted beyond mortality) never to die again.

The founders established freedom to worship free
of federal mandate, not freedom from worship for
employees of the federal government.

Obama specifically is barred by the Constitution
from requiring that all people shall worship Allah,
or doorknobs or Satan, or goats, much to his chagrin.

Congress is still free to hold prayer to open sessions.
Any judge is Constitutionally free to post the Ten
Commandments in a courtroom, which is the basis of
the criminal code,
and, WE The People are free to consider ourselves, a
nation under God, if we desire, and to voice that
in unison, as a pledge.

A minority of blacks may not agree, but they did not
found this nation.
A minority of muslims may not agree, but they did
not found this nation and they have no place here.
A minority of Catholic hispanics may not agree,
but this nation was founded despite their detrimental
presence on the southern border and continuing
invasion to destroy what is America to this day.

By the huge majority of 280 million white folks,
by whom and for whom this nation was founded, we
desire to unite under God.
 Quoting: Janus198


Janus and Christian,

You people are just fucking crazy!
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Sorry,

I don't know how I got that post with the two videos from another thread in that post?
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You people are absolutely ridiculous. You realize that 'under god' was only added a few decades ago right? It has no purpose in government. Separation of church and state was a very important distinction for the founding fathers. Besides, this isn't a nation under any one god as you all know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15343696


The criminal code is based on the Ten Commandments,
a portion of Mosaic Law.

The Declaration of Independence begins:

We hold these truths
to be self evident,
that all man
is created equal,
that they are endowed,
by their Creator,
with certain
inalienable rights. . .

The settlers of America were Protestant,
fleeing Catholic controlled monarchies of
England, Spain and France.

The flight was for ownership of Bibles,
which the Catholic church had banned,
for proclamation of the mission of Jesus
Christ, and his resurrection, which the
Catholic church does not recognize.
Catholic armies of controlled
monarchies persecuted Martin Luther and his followers
for exposure of the mission of Christ and
resurrection, after Protestants obtained copies
and read them.

Protestant = Protestors of Catholicism.

The Catholic church worships the crucifixion,
not Christ's work in the Garden of Gethsemane where
he took the sins of all mankind upon himself,
so he could grant forgiveness to those who would
repent, and not his resurrection, power achieved
over death so he could give that freely to all
mankind.

Birth = Spirit gets a mortal body.
Death = Spirit and body separate.
Resurrection = Spirit and body are rejoined in perfect
form, (exalted beyond mortality) never to die again.

The founders established freedom to worship free
of federal mandate, not freedom from worship for
employees of the federal government.

Obama specifically is barred by the Constitution
from requiring that all people shall worship Allah,
or doorknobs or Satan, or goats, much to his chagrin.

Congress is still free to hold prayer to open sessions.
Any judge is Constitutionally free to post the Ten
Commandments in a courtroom, which is the basis of
the criminal code,
and, WE The People are free to consider ourselves, a
nation under God, if we desire, and to voice that
in unison, as a pledge.

A minority of blacks may not agree, but they did not
found this nation.
A minority of muslims may not agree, but they did
not found this nation and they have no place here.
A minority of Catholic hispanics may not agree,
but this nation was founded despite their detrimental
presence on the southern border and continuing
invasion to destroy what is America to this day.

By the huge majority of 280 million white folks,
by whom and for whom this nation was founded, we
desire to unite under God.
 Quoting: Janus198


And that doesn't even matter now. What matters now is whom the people are today. Not 200+ years ago. And if you believe otherwise, perhaps North Korea or China would be a better climate for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32638535


What matters now is the Constitution or America will become
NK or China (both of whom arrest, torture and kill for
worship of God, doorknobs, goats, Satan, peace or any
other concept)

What people in America have become today is victims of
black violence, muslim violence, criminal violence at the
hands of people who defy God,
all of which will soon escalate exponentially.

Maybe you missed that. Creator = God.

Founding document of the United States of America.
WE hold these truths to be self evident.
That all man is created equal.
THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR
WITH CERTAIN INALIENABLE RIGHTS. . . . .
Janus198
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Then who do you think the Founding Father's were basing the Nation on? They came from Britian under a Monarchy , so who did they think they were creating a new governmemt on???

This Nation was started by a Nation that would be Blessed by GOD.... (The GOD of ABRAHAM, ISSAC and JACOB)

 Quoting: christian


Oh, I don't know. The people that inhabited the country at the time, maybe? You know "We the people" ? And the whole idea of government, modeled after the Romans?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32638535



Government was created by GOD it was ordained by GOD for man to live by, that is the Government we were modeled after

If not we would have an Emperor and Serfs in the USA...
 Quoting: christian


History doesn't support your claim. Nor does common sense. Mixing state + religion = shit. Case in point? Saudia Arabia. Iran. Etc.

The UK is secular, even with all their ministries. Why do you suppose that is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32638535



Again I ask you, who do you think the USA Government Body was modeled by????

And it was not the Roman Empire... Good Grief!

Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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You people are absolutely ridiculous. You realize that 'under god' was only added a few decades ago right? It has no purpose in government. Separation of church and state was a very important distinction for the founding fathers. Besides, this isn't a nation under any one god as you all know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15343696


The criminal code is based on the Ten Commandments,
a portion of Mosaic Law.

The Declaration of Independence begins:

We hold these truths
to be self evident,
that all man
is created equal,
that they are endowed,
by their Creator,
with certain
inalienable rights. . .

The settlers of America were Protestant,
fleeing Catholic controlled monarchies of
England, Spain and France.

The flight was for ownership of Bibles,
which the Catholic church had banned,
for proclamation of the mission of Jesus
Christ, and his resurrection, which the
Catholic church does not recognize.
Catholic armies of controlled
monarchies persecuted Martin Luther and his followers
for exposure of the mission of Christ and
resurrection, after Protestants obtained copies
and read them.

Protestant = Protestors of Catholicism.

The Catholic church worships the crucifixion,
not Christ's work in the Garden of Gethsemane where
he took the sins of all mankind upon himself,
so he could grant forgiveness to those who would
repent, and not his resurrection, power achieved
over death so he could give that freely to all
mankind.

Birth = Spirit gets a mortal body.
Death = Spirit and body separate.
Resurrection = Spirit and body are rejoined in perfect
form, (exalted beyond mortality) never to die again.

The founders established freedom to worship free
of federal mandate, not freedom from worship for
employees of the federal government.

Obama specifically is barred by the Constitution
from requiring that all people shall worship Allah,
or doorknobs or Satan, or goats, much to his chagrin.

Congress is still free to hold prayer to open sessions.
Any judge is Constitutionally free to post the Ten
Commandments in a courtroom, which is the basis of
the criminal code,
and, WE The People are free to consider ourselves, a
nation under God, if we desire, and to voice that
in unison, as a pledge.

A minority of blacks may not agree, but they did not
found this nation.
A minority of muslims may not agree, but they did
not found this nation and they have no place here.
A minority of Catholic hispanics may not agree,
but this nation was founded despite their detrimental
presence on the southern border and continuing
invasion to destroy what is America to this day.

By the huge majority of 280 million white folks,
by whom and for whom this nation was founded, we
desire to unite under God.
 Quoting: Janus198


And that doesn't even matter now. What matters now is whom the people are today. Not 200+ years ago. And if you believe otherwise, perhaps North Korea or China would be a better climate for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32638535


What matters now is the Constitution or America will become
NK or China (both of whom arrest, torture and kill for
worship of God, doorknobs, goats, Satan, peace or any
other concept)

What people in America have become today is victims of
black violence, muslim violence, criminal violence at the
hands of people who defy God,
all of which will soon escalate exponentially.

Maybe you missed that. Creator = God.

Founding document of the United States of America.
WE hold these truths to be self evident.
That all man is created equal.
THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR
WITH CERTAIN INALIENABLE RIGHTS. . . . .
 Quoting: Janus198


Creator = God

Jesus = sun-god
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Oh, I don't know. The people that inhabited the country at the time, maybe? You know "We the people" ? And the whole idea of government, modeled after the Romans?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32638535



Government was created by GOD it was ordained by GOD for man to live by, that is the Government we were modeled after

If not we would have an Emperor and Serfs in the USA...
 Quoting: christian


History doesn't support your claim. Nor does common sense. Mixing state + religion = shit. Case in point? Saudia Arabia. Iran. Etc.

The UK is secular, even with all their ministries. Why do you suppose that is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32638535



Again I ask you, who do you think the USA Government Body was modeled by????

And it was not the Roman Empire... Good Grief!

 Quoting: christian


MASONIC PRINCIPLES!
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I'm beginning to believe that all the people in power are using this "satanic hand sign" as a joke because they know it pisses off the bible-tards.

lmao
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Actually, many of the ruling elite are Satanists.
Pay attention, watch what they do not what they say, you may learn something.
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Government was created by GOD it was ordained by GOD for man to live by, that is the Government we were modeled after

If not we would have an Emperor and Serfs in the USA...
 Quoting: christian


History doesn't support your claim. Nor does common sense. Mixing state + religion = shit. Case in point? Saudia Arabia. Iran. Etc.

The UK is secular, even with all their ministries. Why do you suppose that is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32638535



Again I ask you, who do you think the USA Government Body was modeled by????

And it was not the Roman Empire... Good Grief!

 Quoting: christian


MASONIC PRINCIPLES!
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It was modeled by the GOD of Israel, what was written in the Torah, the freedom in Jesus Christ..

Man is a Power Hungry Fool without GOD Almighty...

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There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Janus and Christian,

Do you two think that NON-Christian members of Congress swear in by placing their hand on a Christian bible?

Do you two think that if they say "so help me God" they are referring to and thinking "Jesus"?
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However the USA has given into Demonic Entities

Revelation 14
Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.


Revelation 18:

With a mighty voice he shouted: "Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great! She has become a home for demons and a haunt for every evil spirit, a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.

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Janus and Christian,

Do you two think that NON-Christian members of Congress swear in by placing their hand on a Christian bible?

Do you two think that if they say "so help me God" they are referring to and thinking "Jesus"?
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No...I think they are praying to an Unknown GOD..
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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However the USA has given into Demonic Entities

Revelation 14
Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.


Revelation 18:

With a mighty voice he shouted: "Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great! She has become a home for demons and a haunt for every evil spirit, a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.

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What God was Babylon THE GREAT worshipping while it was GREAT?
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Janus and Christian,

Do you two think that NON-Christian members of Congress swear in by placing their hand on a Christian bible?

Do you two think that if they say "so help me God" they are referring to and thinking "Jesus"?
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No...I think they are praying to an Unknown GOD..
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"Unknown" GOD?

Can you clarify?
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Oh, I don't know. The people that inhabited the country at the time, maybe? You know "We the people" ? And the whole idea of government, modeled after the Romans?
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Government was created by GOD it was ordained by GOD for man to live by, that is the Government we were modeled after

If not we would have an Emperor and Serfs in the USA...
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History doesn't support your claim. Nor does common sense. Mixing state + religion = shit. Case in point? Saudia Arabia. Iran. Etc.

The UK is secular, even with all their ministries. Why do you suppose that is?
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Again I ask you, who do you think the USA Government Body was modeled by????

And it was not the Roman Empire... Good Grief!

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You think it was modeled BY GOD huh? When the republic is clearly modeled after the Roman Senate, with the Magna Carte strongly adhered to?

Well I tell ya what. Prove it. Your theory doesn't hold up in the real world. Mine is based on the real world.

Please study some history and stop being ignorant.
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You people are absolutely ridiculous. You realize that 'under god' was only added a few decades ago right? It has no purpose in government. Separation of church and state was a very important distinction for the founding fathers. Besides, this isn't a nation under any one god as you all know.
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The criminal code is based on the Ten Commandments,
a portion of Mosaic Law.

The Declaration of Independence begins:

We hold these truths
to be self evident,
that all man
is created equal,
that they are endowed,
by their Creator,
with certain
inalienable rights. . .

The settlers of America were Protestant,
fleeing Catholic controlled monarchies of
England, Spain and France.

The flight was for ownership of Bibles,
which the Catholic church had banned,
for proclamation of the mission of Jesus
Christ, and his resurrection, which the
Catholic church does not recognize.
Catholic armies of controlled
monarchies persecuted Martin Luther and his followers
for exposure of the mission of Christ and
resurrection, after Protestants obtained copies
and read them.

Protestant = Protestors of Catholicism.

The Catholic church worships the crucifixion,
not Christ's work in the Garden of Gethsemane where
he took the sins of all mankind upon himself,
so he could grant forgiveness to those who would
repent, and not his resurrection, power achieved
over death so he could give that freely to all
mankind.

Birth = Spirit gets a mortal body.
Death = Spirit and body separate.
Resurrection = Spirit and body are rejoined in perfect
form, (exalted beyond mortality) never to die again.

The founders established freedom to worship free
of federal mandate, not freedom from worship for
employees of the federal government.

Obama specifically is barred by the Constitution
from requiring that all people shall worship Allah,
or doorknobs or Satan, or goats, much to his chagrin.

Congress is still free to hold prayer to open sessions.
Any judge is Constitutionally free to post the Ten
Commandments in a courtroom, which is the basis of
the criminal code,
and, WE The People are free to consider ourselves, a
nation under God, if we desire, and to voice that
in unison, as a pledge.

A minority of blacks may not agree, but they did not
found this nation.
A minority of muslims may not agree, but they did
not found this nation and they have no place here.
A minority of Catholic hispanics may not agree,
but this nation was founded despite their detrimental
presence on the southern border and continuing
invasion to destroy what is America to this day.

By the huge majority of 280 million white folks,
by whom and for whom this nation was founded, we
desire to unite under God.
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And that doesn't even matter now. What matters now is whom the people are today. Not 200+ years ago. And if you believe otherwise, perhaps North Korea or China would be a better climate for you.
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What matters now is the Constitution or America will become
NK or China (both of whom arrest, torture and kill for
worship of God, doorknobs, goats, Satan, peace or any
other concept)

What people in America have become today is victims of
black violence, muslim violence, criminal violence at the
hands of people who defy God,
all of which will soon escalate exponentially.

Maybe you missed that. Creator = God.

Founding document of the United States of America.
WE hold these truths to be self evident.
That all man is created equal.
THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR
WITH CERTAIN INALIENABLE RIGHTS. . . . .
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Yeah but you either omit or completely miss the reasoning and context. Nobody is above this alleged creator. That's the point. That no man can usurp what it is written there. Coming from England, The Divine Right of Kings is the specific reasoning for that line. They took one from the throne's playbook and applied it to all people.

But now, let's talk about Native Americans and Manifest Destiny..
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Janus and Christian,

Do you two think that NON-Christian members of Congress swear in by placing their hand on a Christian bible?

Do you two think that if they say "so help me God" they are referring to and thinking "Jesus"?
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No...I think they are praying to an Unknown GOD..
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"Unknown" GOD?

Can you clarify?
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How does GOD recognize his children? The GOD of the Bible?
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Government was created by GOD it was ordained by GOD for man to live by, that is the Government we were modeled after

If not we would have an Emperor and Serfs in the USA...
 Quoting: christian


History doesn't support your claim. Nor does common sense. Mixing state + religion = shit. Case in point? Saudia Arabia. Iran. Etc.

The UK is secular, even with all their ministries. Why do you suppose that is?
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Again I ask you, who do you think the USA Government Body was modeled by????

And it was not the Roman Empire... Good Grief!

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You think it was modeled BY GOD huh? When the republic is clearly modeled after the Roman Senate, with the Magna Carte strongly adhered to?

Well I tell ya what. Prove it. Your theory doesn't hold up in the real world. Mine is based on the real world.

Please study some history and stop being ignorant.
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FROM THE NOAHIDE UNIVERSAL LAWS FOR GENTILES AND JEWS...

Mankind is commanded to establish courts of justice.


The king does not provide justice on his own, however. He has minions to assist. He has congressmen, and several layers of judges to work with him to provide justice. That is why the highest courts have their judges nominated by the president. When we submit to any judge, we have submitted to the president. This is why every court room has a flag of the United States and a flag for the state where the court is located.

This perspective suggests that the Chief Justice (Rosh Bet Din in Hebrew) of the supreme court of the Kingdom of Heaven is Mashiach (Messiah). This Chief Justice, like Moses before Him, has assigned subordinates to judge with Him. These subordinates administer the same laws as the Chief Justice. They take the easier cases and send Him the most difficult ones.

When the Mashiach ben David (The Messiah who is the son of David) rules, He will rule with those who have been trained in His Torah (law). He will rule with those who have the proper training. It will be like all judges in civil courts have to be trained as lawyers first. So, those who rule in the Kingdom of Heaven will have to be trained in the Torah which is the law of the Kingdom of Heaven. In fact, I believe that the reason we have civil courts with their rules, is to teach us about the courts (Bate Dinae) of the Kingdom of Heaven.
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There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Under God Axed From Obama's Invocation!


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That's OK...

Obama will be axed from God's plan of salvation for those who repent.
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However the USA has given into Demonic Entities

Revelation 14
Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.


Revelation 18:

With a mighty voice he shouted: "Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great! She has become a home for demons and a haunt for every evil spirit, a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.

 Quoting: christian


What God was Babylon THE GREAT worshipping while it was GREAT?
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GOD lifts Nations and he destroys Nations....

There a number of gods in which the ancient Babylonians worshipped:

An or Anu - the god of Heaven
Enlil - The god of the air and storms. He normally was portrayed in human form, but also appears as a snake to the human eye
Enki - The god of water and the fertile earth
Ki - The mother-goddess representing the earth
Ashur - Main god of Assyria (sky god)
Ninlil or Nillina - The goddess of air (possibly the south wind) and wife of Enlil
Inanna - The goddess of love and war
Ea - The god of Wisdom
Marduk - Originally Ea’s son and god of light. He was the main god of Babylon and the sender of the Babylonian king
Nanna - The god of the moon
Utu or Shamash - The god of the sun, as well as god of justice
Ninurta - a solar deity
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