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How many believe !!people can and are Possessed by demons ?????

 
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In the New Testament we were told many stories of this, but I find people don't believe that part of Bible anymore, what I would like to know do you believe, have you ever encountered and what did you do.


Thankshiding

The reason I ask , met a child of 3 this weekend on 7 medications to keep him at bay, I know he had a legion and we do not practice removing anymore so ,our prisons are full , we just just dont understand what we are dealing with
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It's absolutely true. People just like to deny or ignore it because not only does it frighten some but to non-Christians or non-Muslims the whole exorcism is spoken of being for quacks and made up as well as being labeled abuse if done to a child. Exorcisms are at an all time high and have been for awhile now, happening everywhere from Europe, Africa to the Americas. You've also got the medical community trying to diagnose it as a mental disease and putting kids and adults on strong anti-psychotics, tranquilizers and other heavy sedatives. But it's all very much alive today to say the least, Priests and Imam's stay busy traveling for exorcisms, you can search on youtube and see many such cases.

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In the New Testament we were told many stories of this, but I find people don't believe that part of Bible anymore, what I would like to know do you believe, have you ever encountered and what did you do.


Thankshiding
 Quoting: Goofy for God


I was watching Joan of Arc last night and realized why virginity is so important to Christians...

Demons can be passed through DNA, and that's how they manipulate people's minds and bodies...

They checked Joan and found her pure, even though eventually they burned her, but she was not affected by satan or any of his demons, but inspired, and at times, protected by St Catherin and St. Michael.
 Quoting: BRIEF


It's one big gene-splicing potpourri, as far as viruses are concerned. Not to make anyone (more of) a germaphobe, but even contact with the infected can pass along their DNA to you, under the right conditions. You can't stop it. Force-A-Nature.

This is why the importance of one partner for life - you are gene-spliced together naturally over time.
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wow.

You guys that have strong beliefs in "demons" and other such negative matters should really read all the Seth books by Jane Roberts.
That will make your beliefs in "demons" fly right out the window. It will also straigthen up other negative belief systems implanted by this - what i believe to be an - extremely distorded book, called the bible.

But i probably know what you christians will say, you will say that channeled material is satan's work and only possosed people read this stuff. But that just proves the point that you need to let go of your current beliefs and not be so damn afraid.

"You get what you concentrate upon ... there is no other main rule"
a Seth quote

Well, you'll figure out the rest devil6

peace!
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Think through this Seth quote fully and you will see why it is part of the luciferian deception on the planet... Unless you use your free will to discover the intelligent design here and serve God.

How to do this? Glorify him. Bible says we will be judged by how we treat others... Christ washed the feet of his disciples... Find another religious figure who set this example.

The reason for Jesus was to trump the inevitable corruption of the occult people--those who choose to use demons for knowledge and power... You know, tptb. Money is magic.

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...


no it is not working
 Quoting: Goofy for God


but do you think it COULD work?
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No, Jesus Christ is the only name that has authority over demons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27127759

And what name did people use before Christ?
 Quoting: ShamansDream


"in Egypt the black magicians of Atlantis continued to exercise their superhuman powers until they had completely undermined and corrupted the morals of the primitive mysteries thus black magic dictated the state religion and paralyzed the intellectual and spiritual activities of the individual by demanding his complete and unhesitating acquiescence in the dogma formulated by the priestcraft."

--Manly P Hall the secret teachings of all ages

Seems like Christ spent a lot of time expelling demons when he was here...

As well, magic can be employed against demons--this is often what the Catholic Church is doing... And occultist... Solomon succumbed to using demons and eventually fell, but he had command over them using high magic... This take years to learn and is still very dangerous. Usually, darkness creeps in... Power corrupts.

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I've never seen it.
Every time it has always been mental illness.
Quite scary enough though!

Elementals are real and can be of either a positive or negative nature, the negative ones would be similar to demons.

Then theirs the Qlipoth, evil demons and shells of the very evil who are dead. VERY nasty and the truly, very evil ones of this world will get to join their ranks, such is their reward. All their riches and power won't help them.

I've never seen or heard of one of these beings actually Possessing someone but if one is set upon you, life will be very bad indeed and I suppose that would be close enough, haunted and harrassed yes but not possesed and that would require a banishing not an exorcism.

An exorcism could do psychological harm, reinforcing the patients psychosis and in the other case probably amuze the Qlipoth.

And then of course theirs the ethical dilemna of beating up on Demons, even if they like it...

LOL

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Yes.

Demons are real and they control much of this world...

Question... Have you ever seen a demon? Not just someone you thought was possessed... but an actual demonic entity...

I have.
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


So what did it look like?
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Christ came to give everyone power over the supernatural if they choose to serve God.

Consider that all the important peeps of history have been influenced by the supernatural... From Descartes to Hannibal to Tesla, they all were given their ideas from supernatural influence... This is the supposed development we are all in... You know, the one about to technocratically enslave and chip humanity... Tis supernatural luciferian orchestration...

Genius come from the word Genii... As in aladins lamp... Aka demon spirits... All the geniuses were given their ideas... This is a good example, btw, of the poetry of creation...

You know, Bernie Madoff, made off with the cash... Adam Lanza means "Man Spear"... Etc

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A child of 3 demon possessed? Are his/her parents satanists?


How do you think this could happen to an innocent child?
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watch the video above on moral and Spirit
 Quoting: Goofy for God



I will watch.. later when I have a few.

I absolutely believe in demon spirits and that people can be possessed.

A three year old though.. I dunno
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aliens, other dimensional beings control people in power. If you can call that demons sure.
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You are deceived, aliens are demons/fallen angels. I used to think that too.
Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
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Believing that demons can possess people is just another way of ditching responsibility for one's own actions.

Society will begin healing when citizens stop thinking they are powerless to change their own lack of ambition towards a better world.
 Quoting: Brian Moser


^^^This is typically what people believe, I don't. I'm not super religious, but I know there has to be an explanation for everything that happens.

For some reason the ADD and antidepressant drugs that are given kids seem to sometimes allow demons to attach themselves to people.

Kids drawing horrific pictures of demons when they have never seen such images. Kids acting violent for no reason. And people just acting possessed, it just makes sense that they are possessed rather than they just choose not to be responsible.

Certain things can make a person vulnerable to possession, abuse, exposure to sin and the invitation.

Somehow most people are protected from the dimension beyond our reach, out of denial of evil's existence.

I do believe in the battle of good and evil, that evil will focus on the areas where they can do the most damage, for instance in organized religion. I believe the "Church" is steeped in evil, and the decision to stop exorcisms, to suppress that knowledge--why?

So many people have seen demons, heard them, been affected or influenced by them--and no they are not all just crazy.

Imagine the advantage to Evils agenda to have invented the field of psychiatry,

"The term was first coined by the German physician Johann Christian Reil in 1808, and literally means the 'medical treatment of the soul' (psych-: soul; from Ancient Greek psykhē: soul; -iatry: medical treatment; from Gk. iātrikos: medical, iāsthai: to heal)."

"In the early 1800’s, psychiatry made a significant advance in diagnosis of mental illness by broadening the category of mental disease to include mood disorders, in addition to disease level delusion or irrationality".

" Jean-Étienne Dominique Esquirol, a student of Pinel, made the first elaboration of what was to become our modern depression, lypemania, one of his affective monomanias (excessive attention to a single thing)."

At the turn of the century, England and France combined had only a few hundred individuals in asylums.

" By the late 1890s and early 1900s, this number had risen to the hundreds of thousands."

The United States housed 150,000 patients in mental hospitals by 1904.[79] German speaking countries housed more than 400 public and private sector asylums.[79] These asylums were critical to the evolution of psychiatry as they provided places of practice throughout the world.[79]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Right on.

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i was actualy reading about this when i was having a break from work today. a 12 pages book called the djinn, short, but really interesting

and got me thinking that somebody working to cast them out would have a lot of work in todays world.

Would anyone know of a place fit to learn EVERYTHING about the world of demons? id like to visit iran, shouldn't I be able to find some place there? given that islam has such rich culture in this matter¿?
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aliens, other dimensional beings control people in power. If you can call that demons sure.
 Quoting: Dr. Gucci


You are deceived, aliens are demons/fallen angels. I used to think that too.
 Quoting: Rawrss


Word. This is evidenced by a few facts:

1) supposed aliens only talk negatively or distort Christ and who he is, not the other religions

2) if they were so advanced they'd already have taken over.

3) instead they operate in secret through black projects and the occult.

4) calling on Christ often alleviates the abduction phenomenon...

5) the supposed aliens are gross beings... Like suits for demons...

6) they are working on a hybrid program... To bring the demons here for real.

7) this is end times shenanigans playing out, not aliens... Powers and principalities...

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i was actualy reading about this when i was having a break from work today. a 12 pages book called the djinn, short, but really interesting

and got me thinking that somebody working to cast them out would have a lot of work in todays world.

Would anyone know of a place fit to learn EVERYTHING about the world of demons? id like to visit iran, shouldn't I be able to find some place there? given that islam has such rich culture in this matter¿?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32874532


Check out Walter Veith YouTube on Catholics and Islam... One and the same at the top... Many similarities...

Mohammed was apparently married to a rich catholic nun...

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Demons never have bothered me as in scared me or anything. But they love taunting. I've seen em in people and outside of people.

The evilest one I ever encountered was at a church in its basement. The church paid me 50 bucks to clean the place. Turns out they couldnt get anyone to clean it and I needed the money and the pastor got up with me.

I was alone and was down in the basement about 15 minutes when It appeared out of no where.

It looked like man at first. except it had "glowing black eyes"

I knew what it was from its energy... its unlike anything else...

it was well dressed in a suit and spoke quite proper. Told me all sorts of "gossip" about the bad deeds of the churches congregation. I told it I wasnt interested in anything it had to say. It laughed and then started telling me about physics and how light could store data not just transmit information from one point to another. but actually permanently store information and embed it on anything it touched. It said this is how lasers burn discs.

I told it to fuck off. It then got closer and told me it wanted me to attend services here at the church. I stopped what I was doing and commanded it in the name of Jesus to leave. It distorted its image into a hideous looking rat faced man thing and walked off. I finished the job and left.

I went to the pastors house and collected my money... he invited me to services on sunday...
I looked at him and said
you need to hire terminix cos you got one hell of a rat in your basement... and it likes running its mouth...

He immediately opened his wallet and pulled out a 50... and told me to not tell anyone what i seen down there... I didnt take that 50...

but they knew all about it...

I shit you not. Oddest and evilest demon I encountered. It stayed with me 30 minutes or longer... usually they bugger off after a few minutes... not this one...
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Just curious what denomination. I can't imagine any pastor I know not taking authority over the situation. Allowing a "spirit" to hang around and trying to pay someone off to not mention it is amazing for a pastor IMHO. I wouldn't have any respect for him.
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The child is demon possessed and it will have to have a faith healing evangelist to expel the demons!! Otherwise, this child can grow up like this for years.
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Re: How many believe !!people can and are Possessed by demons ?????
another good reason to get that herb garden growing
lots of demon repellants

look around
this planet is totally infested
demons negative forces aliens call them what you want
the fact is you are surrounded by evil lies corruption etcetc
in every facet of existence
the evil empire is in total control of everything
thoughts and feelings are the last hope you have left
and they are constantly under attack
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xians are the most demon possessed. Maybe due to their weak minds?
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I'm a devout Christian and I assure you I'm not weak in mind, body, or spirit. It takes a real man to set aside his own desires and follow God. The weak are those selfish fools enslaved to their worldly desires.
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Yes.. Amen! It does take a real man!! Bless you Bro
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
I Corinthians 2:14

God doesn't choose favorites.. They choose HIM

It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the greatness of God
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Watching Hillary testify right now ...
... the answer is YES!! Also appears to have a legion of lesser demons in tow.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


This. You don't have to look further than any of our gubmint officials and the symbolism employed in gubmint buildings, etc.

Just check the movie "DC Street Sorcery" to see the lengths they went to in order to set up Washington DC as a lightning rod to channel in dark energies to keep the nation under their spell...

[link to www.dcstreetsorcery.com]
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Humans are the true demons. They butcher billions of their own and that is still not enough. We have demons on this board that want to nuke everyone that isn't exactly like them. Don't blame ET's or fallen angels, human devils are the real problem.
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aliens, other dimensional beings control people in power. If you can call that demons sure.
 Quoting: Dr. Gucci


You are deceived, aliens are demons/fallen angels. I used to think that too.
 Quoting: Rawrss



4) calling on Christ often alleviates the abduction phenomenon...


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25497616


Placebo effect and misconceived, calling on "Christ" is no different than that of calling on Moses to do something about it. Whether Christian exorcist or Muslim exorcist(professional at least), possession is dealt with only by God and God alone. By doing any research, people can find that those "treated" by someone using only the Christ theory, often the symptoms return shortly after the exorcist has left or sometimes even before they leave. Usually it's much worse when it returns and attempts to kill the soul of the person they've inhabited, just as the cases with house cleansing of poltergeists. Calling Christ God during exorcism only feeds more power into whatever is possessing the person as it's an act of evil, it's shirk/idolatry, the teachings of evil. Ever wonder why these djinn/demons laugh at the name of Christ being mentioned and used in this manner? You're playing their game and they love it. Catholic exorcists even admit this regardless of their idolizing both Mariam(Mary) and Isa(Yeshua/Jesus) alayhi sallam.
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I should have asked why you thought the child was possessed before I commented.

Goofy.. If you need encouragement, I would recommend a few day fast.

I was thinking last night while I was praying, how Majestic God is. I know we sing songs like "What a Mighty God We Serve" but when we really stop and think how MIGHTY HE truly is.. I don't think we have words in our vocabulary to describe it.

Imagine God sitting with the Earth as His footstool. He in His Superb Authority has Spoken this massive Universe into existance. The very universe we thought we understood so well but are finding out on a daily basis we really didn't know so much about after all.

Truly imagine the Awesome Creative Power He has... As His child.. He has imparted that Power to you through the Blood of Jesus. For me .. this vision puts into proper perspective "If God be for me, who can be against me."

Your heart is so sincere in wanting to please Him and witness to others.. You can not fail!! I know you've already prayed for the situation so start thanking Him for the authority you have through Jesus and thanking Him for salvation and healing for this family.

I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here.. just trying to encourage you hf

Hallejulah!!!

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But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
I Corinthians 2:14

God doesn't choose favorites.. They choose HIM

It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the greatness of God
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Hey check this out

"Dog food lid" backwards is "dildo of god".

Cool eh?
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I have a demon..or possibly more...or maybe in my mind..who are PURELY COWARDS!!! They (or it) compels me to do things that I intentionally try to change!!!!1 They feed off my emotions (being that I am a woman) they often appear in my mind as scary things...strange noises..currently preventing me from typing this...putting scary thoughts and images into my mind..using my God given rights and talents AGAINST me!!!!!!!!!! They are real!!! As much as Id like to say they arent..they are. They appear to me as dreams...they say things that are UNSPEAKABLE. They are horrible..but really...they are YOU. WE ARE THEM. They can only do what you allow. The trick is...how long and how far will you allow them to go..quite literally-the choice is yours and only yours.
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Art Bell was interviewing Father Malachi Martin one time.

The Father was talking about the "perfectly possessed", those that consciously knew they were possessed, went along with it, and were just peachy about the whole thing.

Art asked him if President Bill Clinton was perfectly possessed.


The Father hesitiated for a very long 8-10 seconds or so, then answered:

"no comment".
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satan

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Great series btw
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Believing that demons can possess people is just another way of ditching responsibility for one's own actions. Society will begin healing when citizens stop thinking they are powerless to change their own lack of ambition towards a better world.
 Quoting: Brian Moser



you can reason it that way and many do who deep down fear the reality of the supernatural
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I was in a hotel room in New Orleans with a close friend on a bad acid trip. He called me up and said I was the only one he trusted to take care of him, and he was having thoughts of hurting the people around him and it scared the hell out of him. So we got the cheapest, most covert room I could find in the Tremé to wait it out.

It was there the demon started talking to me. He said his name was Lucifer when I asked. I get the strong feeling it both wasn't and WAS true at the same time. Honestly, I don't remember every word he said, but the gist of it was he was threatening to rape me and then kill anyone he saw on his way out.

Now this wasn't my first rundown with a demon before or since, not by a long shot, and by then I had declared war on every one of their kind; I hated them with every essence of my being.

So when he came through that night, the one who called himself Lucifer, I wasn't surprised. It actually surprised me how not surprised I was. Somehow I knew he wasn't "allowed" to hurt me, by whose authority I do not know, but as I'm not religious and not apt to invoke the name of Jesus or whatever, I decided to ask it all kinds of questions about where it's from and why it does what it does.

This is where it gets interesting. The more I talked with the demon, the more I began to feel its own suffering; I began to pity it and then a presence came over me, and a LOVE I could never adequately describe in words flowed through me. I looked him straight in his eyes and said, "I love you" and MEANT IT. He kind of looked at me strange and faded out until my frien came back.

I've never felt that kind of unconditional love before except with the birth of my son, however obviously the context is different. I will forever be chasing that feeling, and that experience totally changed my outlook on spiritual warfare.

Peace to all on this thread; lovers, warriors, and demons alike.
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Religion is so much.. HE SAID SHE SAID or w/e combo you would like to use. I of course if called upon would side with the angels and God but... What if the demons are the ones being oppressed and this whole time we were being fooled.


Even though I'd admit to joining the obvious good side has anyone ever considered the latter? I'm just saying it's logical to at least ponder the question. If not then why the hell do you even live?

If your going to so blindly follow something then you don't deserve the brain you were given.
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If you receive the love of the Truth so as to be saved, you will KNOW, KNOW, KNOW that those who refuse to follow God's truths are the ones who are "blindly follow(ing) something". I haven't counted the number of times in the Scriptures that God/Jesus state that those who do not believe are "blind" and that they are blind because they want to be.
Get into the Scriptures so that you can KNOW what the truth is.
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Sadly, GLP has fallen to religious fruitcakes, who do not have a clue as to the nature of existence...

The depth of the deception they are under is astounding...

I think I will become a hermit, or at least cross the street when I get an inkling that a religious person is headed my way...
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murka has become a madhouse of demon haunted minds

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