The Blaze's (Snopes) Attempt to Debunk Sandy Hook Conspiracies! Point by Point! | |
TDJ User ID: 32831057 United States 01/23/2013 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | god, can't you gullible idiots research some REAL information? like about JFK or 9/11?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32821903 The Sandy Hook conspiracy actually CAN be completely debunked, from the Saiga shotgun found in his car, to the 'fake pictures' of Emilie, which are available on Robbie Parker's public facebook account from Dec 2010.... you stupid fucks are the reason why there is going to be a campaign against 'conspiracy theorists' soon...so thanks for being gullible dumb shits. Which one are you again? If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
So Confused User ID: 25135346 United States 01/23/2013 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | god, can't you gullible idiots research some REAL information? like about JFK or 9/11?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32821903 The Sandy Hook conspiracy actually CAN be completely debunked, from the Saiga shotgun found in his car, to the 'fake pictures' of Emilie, which are available on Robbie Parker's public facebook account from Dec 2010.... you stupid fucks are the reason why there is going to be a campaign against 'conspiracy theorists' soon...so thanks for being gullible dumb shits. Oh I get it...so Facebook dates are bunk when we bring them up as evidence, but they're legit when you do. Nice logic there buddy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 554016 United States 01/23/2013 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Using snopes to back up their anti-conspiracy claims, eh? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24028110 Do we have a list of all the times snopes was wrong? We need one handy here... The problem is, that even though nbc came out to say no assault rifle was used, it is the basis behind debunking the claims. And no mention of the Batman connection, either. Yep. He supposedly used 4 handguns, they came out with that now. So no AR-15 as has become so popular in the media lately because of parrot politicians who don't even understand how a gun works or what a mag is. Since they're saying he didn't use the AR-15 now, how do they respond to the coroner saying the wounds were inflicted using the "long weapon"? They don't have to because nobody in their right minds would imagine that the medical examiner they had is legitimate. But the parents think thier children are dead based off this guys "word". None of them got to see the dead bodies of thier children to identify them. They only saw pictures. |
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Zuzu's Petals User ID: 31989439 Canada 01/23/2013 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love how all of these articles start off with the "parental reactions" as if that's the biggest inconsistency in all of this. "Supposed" inconsistencies. There's nothing "supposed" about them. "man who was allegedly chased in the woods nearby the school;" Uh, no, nothing "alleged" about it. A man was being chased in the woods. Period. And MSM has totally dropped it. Why? Then he proceeds to cite the Newtown Bee to "debunk" it? "The Newtown Bee, a local outlet, reported that a law enforcement official told them that the man seen in the woods had a gun and was nearby the school." The same Newtown Bee that quoted the dead principal as describing the gunshots? Yeah Ok. Not bothering with the rest of this article. Last Edited by Zuzu's Petals on 01/23/2013 06:21 PM "I don't have pet peeves; I have major psychotic ******* hatreds, okay. And it makes the world a lot easier to sort out." George Carlin [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] |
MuslimAmerican User ID: 26542172 United States 01/23/2013 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.theblaze.com] Quoting: Prescott Can't be much harder to find a bigger government shill than this activist "journalist" who coincidentally got much exposure from the Columbine shootings.... Billy Hallowell’s career in journalism and commentary began at an early age. Following the Columbine shooting in 1999, the then 15-year-old launched Teen Web Online, a web site intended to address violence, discrimination and other social issues facing America’s young generation. “At the time, I was so stunned. I founded Teen Web as an outlet for my generation to get relevant information, while becoming empowered to make change in local communities.” Through journalism, media, public speaking appearances and the blogosphere, Hallowell has worked for more than a decade to inspire and motivate his generation. He has been published and featured in political and cultural books, textbooks, articles and Web sites that focus on the youth of America and its role in the future of our world. In 2002, Hallowell founded the Columbine Survivor Project and Peace Project. The latter became an annual event at The College of Mount Saint Vincent in Riverdale Just another propagandist on the payroll of you know who. Feed the hungry, visit the sick, free a captive if he be unjustly confined(kidnapped/enslaved by someone). Assist any person oppressed, whether they're of the Muslim or non-Muslim. - Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) |
Dominus User ID: 32798287 United States 01/23/2013 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy's first two conspiracies he tried to debunk were bunk themselves. I tried to comment about it, and my post was removed. I'm not sure why GB allowed this libtard to post on the blaze. I'm on the fence about him lately. I always thought that Faux News was the controlled opposition and GB was the anomaly. While I still know FN is the controlled opposition, I'm wondering if GB isn't as well. The constitutions of most of our States and the United States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press. -Thomas Jefferson in a letter to John Cartwright, June 5, 1824 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 554016 United States 01/23/2013 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this article says the coronor was wrong. Whose the medical expert snopes or the coronor? The coronor was mistaken when he said a long gun was used? Even though the reporter specifically asked and tried to correct him. He said that is incorrect sir not i dont believe that to be the case. He was difinitive in his answer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 554016 United States 01/23/2013 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this article says the coronor was wrong. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554016 Whose the medical expert snopes or the coronor? The coronor was mistaken when he said a long gun was used? Even though the reporter specifically asked and tried to correct him. He said that is incorrect sir not i dont believe that to be the case. He was difinitive in his answer. He was also asked if the shots were at point blank range. He said the first 7 victims he examined were shot 3-11 times with a long gun from a distance. There is no way that there would not be any wounded if he was shooting from a distance using hand guns. Its just not a believable story. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32841046 United States 01/23/2013 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a comment that I thought made a lot of sense... Posted on January 23, 2013 at 3:23pm I guess I have just one question? Where are the wounded? Children are the most resilient age group and yet there is not one wounded survivor. Not one who a cop found with a pulse, not one that made it to an ambulance and not one that died at the hospital. All mass shootings have wounded except this one. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5366990 United States 01/23/2013 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a comment that I thought made a lot of sense... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32841046 Posted on January 23, 2013 at 3:23pm I guess I have just one question? Where are the wounded? Children are the most resilient age group and yet there is not one wounded survivor. Not one who a cop found with a pulse, not one that made it to an ambulance and not one that died at the hospital. All mass shootings have wounded except this one. They are in the shed.. |
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13th-Century User ID: 32527598 Canada 01/23/2013 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Blaze coverage is a complete fail. They gave Gene Rosen a complete pass for changing his stories over and over again. The website is totally changed from what it was a year ago. Now it is half fluff. GB wants to be a guru. What ever happened to his "I'm going blind" story? Don't bother answering that one. I don't really care. |
Copperhead User ID: 24964643 United States 01/23/2013 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Blaze coverage is a complete fail. They gave Gene Rosen a complete pass for changing his stories over and over again. Quoting: 13th-Century The website is totally changed from what it was a year ago. Now it is half fluff. GB wants to be a guru. What ever happened to his "I'm going blind" story? Don't bother answering that one. I don't really care. His site is full of ads and pop-ups, so much so that I hate going there. When I do it takes a few seconds to load as it is searching my computer for info on what targeted ads to place on my screen. |
BAD WOLF User ID: 30099585 United States 01/23/2013 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it did happen where's the dead and the wounded? Why in the hell didn't they allow ambulances closer to the school building? One kid killed that many people without being seen. Plus the fact that children are often times smaller and faster they would be a pretty hard target for one person. There was also the aerial footage of the school too which did not look like a crime scene or even remotely like there was anything wrong. And read somewhere they were planning on demolishing the building? Why? Unless there's evidence within that building that could prove that everything that we've been told about the shooting was false. None of it makes sense and yet they still keep feeding us the same BS in hopes that we're dumb enough to buy it. "The trust of the innocent is the liar's most useful tool"- Stephen King |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32898759 United States 01/23/2013 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like to use common sense, sometimes it is the best talking point when debating a sheep. Quoting: Prescott Just like 9/11, 13 hijackers from Saudi Arabia with box cutters took down the twin towers... Riiigghhht. Sandy Hook, a 120lb kid walks into a school with three guns and shoots 20 small moving kids, and 6 adults with 100% kill accuracy. No wounded survivors... Riiigghht! Im tired of 9/11 truthers trying to jump on the sandy hook bandwagon. Im a former wtc2 employee. I had left my job shortly before everything happened and watched in first person as that harrowing day unfolded. It happened, it went down the way it was reported. Sandy Hook is weird and different and there are lot of holes in the official story. But as someone who witnessed 9/11, 9/11 truthers are undermining the story behind Sandy Hook by bringing up their opinions. To clarify what has not been properly addressed by sandy hook debunkers: 1. Where is CCTV footage ? In this day and age, in a upscale first world place like a CT. School, where is the proof ? 2. Where is the footage of several hundred kids and their parents leaving the school ? 3. Why did certain families react so unnaturally. Seemed super happy shortly after the deaths ? And dont tell me grief lends itself to outbursts of laughter, smiling. Im not talking about that. Im talking about family members who were interviewed (such as vickie soto's with a cooper) and acted blissfully happy. Not normal. 4. In Emilie 's photos, in group shots why does her head look abnormally small compared to her sister who is 2-3 years younger ? The photoshoping I can understand, but not the size discrepancy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32898759 United States 01/23/2013 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to twitter.com (secure)] smiling happily a few days after family member was murdered ? Very odd. |
Prescott (OP) User ID: 32852215 United States 01/23/2013 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like to use common sense, sometimes it is the best talking point when debating a sheep. Quoting: Prescott Just like 9/11, 13 hijackers from Saudi Arabia with box cutters took down the twin towers... Riiigghhht. Sandy Hook, a 120lb kid walks into a school with three guns and shoots 20 small moving kids, and 6 adults with 100% kill accuracy. No wounded survivors... Riiigghht! Im tired of 9/11 truthers trying to jump on the sandy hook bandwagon. Im a former wtc2 employee. I had left my job shortly before everything happened and watched in first person as that harrowing day unfolded. It happened, it went down the way it was reported. Sandy Hook is weird and different and there are lot of holes in the official story. But as someone who witnessed 9/11, 9/11 truthers are undermining the story behind Sandy Hook by bringing up their opinions. To clarify what has not been properly addressed by sandy hook debunkers: 1. Where is CCTV footage ? In this day and age, in a upscale first world place like a CT. School, where is the proof ? 2. Where is the footage of several hundred kids and their parents leaving the school ? 3. Why did certain families react so unnaturally. Seemed super happy shortly after the deaths ? And dont tell me grief lends itself to outbursts of laughter, smiling. Im not talking about that. Im talking about family members who were interviewed (such as vickie soto's with a cooper) and acted blissfully happy. Not normal. 4. In Emilie 's photos, in group shots why does her head look abnormally small compared to her sister who is 2-3 years younger ? The photoshoping I can understand, but not the size discrepancy. LOL, you are the epitome of hypocrite! You demand video of the Sandy Hook tragedy but turn a blind eye to the video not released by the Pentagon on the obvious missile that hit it on 9/11! Good thinkin Lincoln! And if you are one of the idiots who think the Pentagon did not have video of it then you should just retreat from this site, and redo fifth grade. Last Edited by Gimme 3 Steps on 01/23/2013 07:46 PM No matter what you do, you'll never run from you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32900486 United States 01/23/2013 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just remember Columbine where we had tons of info within the first week. You could sketch out a diagram of the school and the various locations of bombs, shootings, etc with press released info alone. This case is over a month old and still nothing. The media coverage has been one huge cry fest with no hard evidence. No effort has been made to address simple questions, and all inquiry is met with "truther" attacks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32284139 United States 01/23/2013 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not a conspiracy freak, but this case struck me as being completely wrong from the outset. Every original detail given in the news has been revoked and replaced with a different account...and bit by bit, the later accounts are being proven false. Not *possibly* false...not questionable...proven false. The police are lying..the 'witnesses' are lying...and most of all, the MEDIA is lying. FINALLY, we have a huge story of great significance and weight that we are starting to be able to PROVE to be a lie...a story that may well finally bring the MSM crashing down due to its having replaced journalism with Pravda-ism. Glenn Beck and Co should be all over this; he's been trying to show them for who/what they really are for years. We're finally catching them in the act with nothing to hide behind. And instead, the fat boy cowers like Jesse Ventura and plays ball with the enemy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1565088 United States 01/23/2013 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is video from gas stations , stores or any of the privately owend surveillance cameras that are every where. Showing Adams mothers car traveling to the school? How about fire house footage. This day an age there are cameras every place you go. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32861870 United States 01/23/2013 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I personally like this reference in the article: "the bizarre world of Sandy Hook Trutherism..." lol,finding out the truth is apparently "bizarre" these days. Quoting: Prescott Or as Goerge Orwell said,"Telling the truth is an act of revolution." Well, to be fair, the truth usually does turn out to be pretty bizarre these days. NO one killed at Sandy Hoax, yet the media, the police, and the president (yeah) all lie about it constantly. Bizarro World! :after_boom: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5366990 United States 01/23/2013 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't see how the hoax could be debunked when there's too many variables to the story that doesn't add up anyways. Too many holes in the entire situation. The MSM and anyone else who try to back up their claims can't even keep their story straight too. Quoting: BAD WOLF If it did happen where's the dead and the wounded? Why in the hell didn't they allow ambulances closer to the school building? One kid killed that many people without being seen. Plus the fact that children are often times smaller and faster they would be a pretty hard target for one person. There was also the aerial footage of the school too which did not look like a crime scene or even remotely like there was anything wrong. And read somewhere they were planning on demolishing the building? Why? Unless there's evidence within that building that could prove that everything that we've been told about the shooting was false. None of it makes sense and yet they still keep feeding us the same BS in hopes that we're dumb enough to buy it. eureka |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5366990 United States 01/23/2013 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I personally like this reference in the article: "the bizarre world of Sandy Hook Trutherism..." lol,finding out the truth is apparently "bizarre" these days. Quoting: Prescott Or as Goerge Orwell said,"Telling the truth is an act of revolution." Well, to be fair, the truth usually does turn out to be pretty bizarre these days. NO one killed at Sandy Hoax, yet the media, the police, and the president (yeah) all lie about it constantly. Bizarro World! :after_boom: Yes, I remember when I was 3 and a 2 yr old picked on me. O the grudges. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32284139 United States 01/23/2013 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, to be fair, the truth usually does turn out to be pretty bizarre these days. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32861870 NO one killed at Sandy Hoax, yet the media, the police, and the president (yeah) all lie about it constantly. Though I'm leaning towards the 'nobody killed' theory, I'm still undecided about that. But I do not hesitate at all to say that the story we've been fed is a total crock of BS. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32861870 United States 01/23/2013 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like to use common sense, sometimes it is the best talking point when debating a sheep. Quoting: Prescott Just like 9/11, 13 hijackers from Saudi Arabia with box cutters took down the twin towers... Riiigghhht. Sandy Hook, a 120lb kid walks into a school with three guns and shoots 20 small moving kids, and 6 adults with 100% kill accuracy. No wounded survivors... Riiigghht! Don't you know? They all stood stock-still and patiently waited for him to take precise aim on each of them. That makes sense, right? They just want us to run like a dog chasing it's tail on these stupid addenda to the original theories. Their little cartoons are so weak. |
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Prescott (OP) User ID: 32852215 United States 01/23/2013 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, to be fair, the truth usually does turn out to be pretty bizarre these days. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32861870 NO one killed at Sandy Hoax, yet the media, the police, and the president (yeah) all lie about it constantly. Though I'm leaning towards the 'nobody killed' theory, I'm still undecided about that. But I do not hesitate at all to say that the story we've been fed is a total crock of BS. I agree with you 100%. The only thing that holds me back from the "no one killed theory" is having a whistle blower come out which hasn't happened yet, and I figure someone would be able to spot one or more of the children alive. No matter what you do, you'll never run from you. |