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My country, as I've known it for nearly 50 years, is GONE.

Our armed forces are but a mere shadow of what they once were. Moral is in the shitter, gangs now roam the barracks and the battlefields.

It was bad enough when they started accepting openly gay fucks, who now are OUT THERE AND LOVING IT. Now they are going to use our wives, mothers, sisters, and aunts to fight on the front lines.

This is NOT about equal rights, nor political correctness. This is about HUMAN RESOURCES. The military has already lowered testing and admission standards, in order to fulfill quota's, resulting in the scraping of the very bottom of the barrel.

This is indeed, a sad day for America.
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Yes it is a Sad Day....


We are watching it crumble brick by brick daily...


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Good, finally.
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Congratulations ladies, you got your equal rights. Now you too can become meat for the beast. A wise person once said be careful what you ask for, you might get it.

Enjoy!
 Quoting: JesseDart


Feminist movement - pisses me off. They ruined women.

How are we supposed to be nurturing sweet individuals and kill people at the same time?
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Yet we want equal pay, ironic...
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I think the Israelis tried women in frontline combat units and it didn't work. Same with the Russians IIRC.
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Now they want ours. sad
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Women can't throw the grenades far enough, so they end up blowing themselves up.

That's why they never allowed women on the front lines.
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Those fucking bastards!

Now that they have RUINED hundreds of thousands of combat vets, due to multiple tours, as many as 6 different deployments in the sand box, they are now going after our women.

This is NOT GOOD.

Don't give me the crap about how women can do things just as good as men.

This is the final nail in the coffin of our armed forces.
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yup
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I have never, NEVER come across anything more arrogantly stupid than this "ban on combat for women".

If a bunch of North Korean soldiers burst into a radar station in Oregon, what are the female operators supposed to do? Tell the North koreass as they mow them down with automatic fire, "Sorry, but I can't shoot you as I'm under a "combat ban" - you're going to have to ignore me and move on to shoot the male staff"?

Remember, during the Second World War, the Japanese did briefly invade and occupy part of Alaska (part of the Aleutian Islands).

If you are in the US Army, you are in the front line. You are in harms way to kill or be killed if the battle reaches you...and for the US to "ban combat" as if they are the ones who always dictate where combat is so arrogantly stupid that the French Army, claiming that it would dictate where the Second World War would be fought in 1940, three weeks before Hitler's Panzer's rolled into Paris, the French capital is about the only parallel that I can find in history.

Whoever's on the Joint Chiefs of Staff, clearly isn't fit to face a Military Grade One test paper on basic military competance.
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Just think how torn apart the nation will be after a nice group of female soldiers get caught, raped and killed.

For some reason they seem to be looking to make strife between as many groups as possible.
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I think the Israelis tried women in frontline combat units and it didn't work. Same with the Russians IIRC.
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Russians seemed to have some pretty decent female snipers during the second world war, however that was a different war where every able body was necessary.

However women will not be spared rape and torture giving the fact that men from other military and religions have such disdain for women in combat.

I hope they bring their A game if they indeed face full on combat, might as well keep a side arm with the last one in the chamber reserved to take their own life when the enemy closes in on their positions.

the end result is its a sign of our over stretched military, degenerating morale, and need to provide for both domestic control as well as more forces for the 35 African nations that we are sending troops too.

Sad day for america, and a scary prospect for those women.
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I cant wait for the media to cover up the first torture / gang rape incident. You know its not going to be pretty when they start capturing women. The captured men endure torture, women will be forced to endure hell.
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Mr. Zappa saw it coming:

[link to wiki.killuglyradio.com]
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I think the Israelis tried women in frontline combat units and it didn't work. Same with the Russians IIRC.
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Russians seemed to have some pretty decent female snipers during the second world war, however that was a different war where every able body was necessary.

However women will not be spared rape and torture giving the fact that men from other military and religions have such disdain for women in combat.

I hope they bring their A game if they indeed face full on combat, might as well keep a side arm with the last one in the chamber reserved to take their own life when the enemy closes in on their positions.

the end result is its a sign of our over stretched military, degenerating morale, and need to provide for both domestic control as well as more forces for the 35 African nations that we are sending troops too.

Sad day for america, and a scary prospect for those women.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22017972


Yes they did have snipers and yes they did well. What I was referring to is infantry and all other ground combat units whose job is to close with and destroy the enemy.
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All the sistas will now be armed to shoot honkey American citizens.
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CRAP!!

That did not even occur to me.

Home girl's from da hood, capping waycist whitey's?

Hmmm..

Wait a minute, they'd never pass the ASVAB , let alone make it through basic training.

Whew! That was a close one.
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You forget affirmative action....the standards will be lowered....black obama girls will not even be required to get through boot camp
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All the sistas will now be armed to shoot honkey American citizens.
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Sounds desperate or shtf for realz.

More detailed read here, says that it could potentially open up 230,000 jobs to female military personnel.

Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles
[link to news.apsou.gr]
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This is probably being done so that they can operate on the next planned battlefield, America!
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I have never, NEVER come across anything more arrogantly stupid than this "ban on combat for women".

If a bunch of North Korean soldiers burst into a radar station in Oregon, what are the female operators supposed to do? Tell the North koreass as they mow them down with automatic fire, "Sorry, but I can't shoot you as I'm under a "combat ban" - you're going to have to ignore me and move on to shoot the male staff"?

Remember, during the Second World War, the Japanese did briefly invade and occupy part of Alaska (part of the Aleutian Islands).

If you are in the US Army, you are in the front line. You are in harms way to kill or be killed if the battle reaches you...and for the US to "ban combat" as if they are the ones who always dictate where combat is so arrogantly stupid that the French Army, claiming that it would dictate where the Second World War would be fought in 1940, three weeks before Hitler's Panzer's rolled into Paris, the French capital is about the only parallel that I can find in history.

Whoever's on the Joint Chiefs of Staff, clearly isn't fit to face a Military Grade One test paper on basic military competance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31649009


you are completely missing the point. The argument is whether women are capable of performing in ground combat units as opposed to support and service support units.

And also what such integration might do to unit morale and capabilities.

No one has said women can't defend themselves as needed.
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01/23/2013 07:12 PM
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What a spectacularly stupid idea. No offense ladies, but you do not belong on the front lines. There is more to fighting a war than a trigger finger.
 Quoting: Resister


I agree with you 100%, Resister, and I'm a woman. This is so wrong. I'm fine with women serving in the military in non-combat roles. I just feel very strongly that women should not be allowed in combat for a variety of reasons.

I would love to hear some current/former military views on this because I have to imagine that this will be bad for troop morale.

Last Edited by DT2 on 01/23/2013 07:12 PM
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Great!

Now every woman in the service can be raped to death protecting the Muslim Brotherhood in Obama's World Caliphate Expansion project!

banana
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On a more serious note, most rapes occur from our own armed forces personel, something that should make every mother and father angry! These women are devoting their lives to the USA. They are patriots and they are being abused.

[link to www.guardian.co.uk]
"The DoD estimates that in 2010 alone, over 19,000 sexual assaults occurred in the military."

Half were female soldiers. Rape is not just a female issue. It's a serious crime. The punishment in a military setting (if not all settings) should be severe violent execution and probably torture.

In rape, often less than 1 in 10 are reported. Many of the rapists attack more than one victim. It's very possible that a superior officer forced himself (or herself) upon an enlisted soldier and did so on many under their command.

While women have served in combat in the Soviet Union(WW2), Israel, Australia, New Zealand, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Italy, Norway, Serbia, etc, it makes us all cringe. It's an emotional issue.

Volunteer armies are a good thing. It can be noble to serve your country. Unfortunantly nations abuse all soldiers by asking them to serve corporate interests, often oil production, often police actions which are not their purview, or they so limit the range of the rules of engagement as to put them in HARM'S WAY.

It's inevitable that women will serve in combat in the USA. If women have equal rights, there's a cost to that. Equal rights means equal risk just as men have.

Let's let our soldiers be soldiers. Let them defend us with honor. Let's let them be used to attack the enemy. Let's not abuse their trust.

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Great!

Now every woman in the service can be raped to death
banana
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sideways
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canadians have had infantry positions for women for decades , in 40 years only two have actually qualified to the same standards as men.
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its just going to allow more sexual assault in the military.
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Rape will happen and worse. That is what happens when women and men are put too closely together. Testosterone takes over.
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Those fucking bastards!

Now that they have RUINED hundreds of thousands of combat vets, due to multiple tours, as many as 6 different deployments in the sand box, they are now going after our women.

This is NOT GOOD.

Don't give me the crap about how women can do things just as good as men.

This is the final nail in the coffin of our armed forces.
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girls in combat:



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That is just awful. Women are not made for combat, not mentally or physically.
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A draft is almost always a bad thing. It's only needed when there's a ton of ground forces needed.

The reality is the combat readiness of the average man or woman in the USA is abysmally low. Many Americans are obese. Most have no upper body strength, even young people.
[link to www.chicagomag.com]
[link to sportsmedicine.about.com]
[link to www.nytimes.com]

The new recuits are a product of video games and not hiking, canoeing, rock climbing, regular and disciplined physical education.

What we should be doing is improving the physical fitness of all Americans, most certainly young Americans by the reward method of reducing college tuition. We should encourage young Americans to enter military academies and become career soldiers. While some women could be combat ready, making a blanket change at a time of poor combat readiness is FOOLISH. Some may be able to serve with honor and distinction. Don't make ALL do something to satisfy an agenda of equality.

Creating professional soldiers just as we create any professionals like physicians will result in better soldiers. Would you use a draft to get a doctor? HELL NO! Would you use a draft to create farmers? HELL NO! Why would you ever use a draft to create a fighting force? Answer: you need people to take point and take the first hit or hit the first landmine. It's asinine.

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A draft is almost always a bad thing. It's only needed when there's a ton of ground forces needed.

The reality is the combat readiness of the average man or woman in the USA is abysmally low. Many Americans are obese. Most have no upper body strength, even young people.
[link to www.chicagomag.com]
[link to sportsmedicine.about.com]
[link to www.nytimes.com]

The new recuits are a product of video games and not hiking, canoeing, rock climbing, regular and disciplined physical education.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


well, initial induction and basic training are all a weeding-out process, and between the men and women, all tolled,
we should be able to muster enough combat troops to get the job done.
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A draft is almost always a bad thing. It's only needed when there's a ton of ground forces needed.

The reality is the combat readiness of the average man or woman in the USA is abysmally low. Many Americans are obese. Most have no upper body strength, even young people.
[link to www.chicagomag.com]
[link to sportsmedicine.about.com]
[link to www.nytimes.com]

The new recuits are a product of video games and not hiking, canoeing, rock climbing, regular and disciplined physical education.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


well, initial induction and basic training are all a weeding-out process, and between the men and women, all tolled,
we should be able to muster enough combat troops to get the job done.
 Quoting: Judysnowflake

YEP, I reckon, but read the articles. The reduced the physical fitness exam. It's a sham and a shame at least to this old educated country boy. I added more while you were typing.

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 01/23/2013 07:56 PM
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and, anyway, every military doctrine in the world these days says:
"when you run out of troops, use nukes."
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Congratulations ladies, you got your equal rights. Now you too can become meat for the beast. A wise person once said be careful what you ask for, you might get it.

Enjoy!
 Quoting: JesseDart


Feminist movement - pisses me off. They ruined women.

How are we supposed to be nurturing sweet individuals and kill people at the same time?
 Quoting: Only Me


I'll never go out with, have a relationship with, or marry any girl or woman that has ever been in the military or law enforcement. Whatever they say, something has been broken that cannot be repaired.

This is disgusting and shows BO's true colors. The "man" is a cretin - a lowlife that would throw women into a caldron of rape and sacrilege. This is an announcement of further wars to come.

A decent president or leader keeps us out of wars.

I expect a military draft. The younger generation has no idea how this will change everything. Now we have to keep our women safe from OUR government as well as those of other countries.

The bastard is beyond forgiveness.

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