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SPAIN'S CATALONIA REGION HAS JUST DECLARED INDEPENDENT SOVEREIGNTY FROM SPAIN

 
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Obama says Texas couldn't do this...how come Catalonia can?!?!?

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Obama says Texas couldn't do this...how come Catalonia can?!?!?

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Catalonia is an old nation with it's own language, history and traditions. It just happens to have been conquered by castille. The iberian peninsula is made up of different nations, almost all were assimilated by castille, which is now known as the kingdom of spain.
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Secession is in the air.

White House Rejects Texas Secession Petition

Wednesday, 16 Jan 2013 07:48 PM


Despite a White House rejection, supporters of a petition signed by more than 100,000 people continue to forge ahead with a petition allowing Texas to secede from the U.S.

Supporters of the petition, the Texas Nationalist Movement, met with Republican leaders last week, The New York Times reports. The group wants Texas to sever its federal ties and become an independent nation, the newspaper reports.

The officials included Texas Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst.

The Texas Nationalist Movement also rallied on the steps of the state Capitol on the first day of the legislative session and visited lawmakers seeking support for a referendum on the secession issue.

The group’s president, Daniel Miller, met with Dewhurst for about an hour.

“We had a lengthy discussion about the U.S. Constitution, the Texas Constitution and the future of Texas,” Miller told the Times. “He was cordial and engaging on the issues with which we are concerned.”

A spokesman for the lieutenant governor, Matt Hirsch, said that Miller was among several constituents who met with Dewhurst on the first day of the session — but that as a proud veteran, Dewhurst believed in preserving and protecting the Union.

The Obama administration rejected secession petitions from residents of Texas, Louisiana, Alabama and five other states, the Times reports. The Texas petition, with 125,746 signatures, said that withdrawal was “practically feasible” since the state had a balanced budget, according to the paper.

The director of the White House Office of Public Engagement, Jon Carson, wrote the Texas group, saying that free and open debate was good for democracy — and cited some of the legal arguments against secession, including an 1869 Supreme Court ruling that found that individual states did not have a right to secede.

“Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States ‘in order to form a more perfect union’ through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government,” Carson wrote, according to the paper. “They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot — a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it.”

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we are not spain. and there is still lots of good states that are fighting a good fight. it is useless dc and a few of it's neighbors.
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tabula rasa everywhere soon...

Be aware
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Obama says Texas couldn't do this...how come Catalonia can?!?!?

huffy
 Quoting: Saddletramp



Catalonia is an old nation with it's own language, history and traditions. It just happens to have been conquered by castille. The iberian peninsula is made up of different nations, almost all were assimilated by castille, which is now known as the kingdom of spain.
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Language???LOL!!! It's about money and people suffering.
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I recently found out my dad's DNA matches male Basques. He lives in WV and his family is also in KY. The Basque ancestry caused some rare diseases in our family.
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Obama says Texas couldn't do this...how come Catalonia can?!?!?

huffy
 Quoting: Saddletramp



Catalonia is an old nation with it's own language, history and traditions. It just happens to have been conquered by castille. The iberian peninsula is made up of different nations, almost all were assimilated by castille, which is now known as the kingdom of spain.
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Language???LOL!!! It's about money and people suffering.
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Yes they speak Catalan there! Yes they're richer than Spain!
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01/23/2013 11:23 PM
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Obama says Texas couldn't do this...how come Catalonia can?!?!?

huffy
 Quoting: Saddletramp



Catalonia is an old nation with it's own language, history and traditions. It just happens to have been conquered by castille. The iberian peninsula is made up of different nations, almost all were assimilated by castille, which is now known as the kingdom of spain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32909348


Language???LOL!!! It's about money and people suffering.
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Yes they speak Catalan there! Yes they're richer than Spain!
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How much do they owe? Come on.
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How much do they owe? Come on.
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C'mon Catalunya is one of the richest countries in europe! They have to pay for poor regions in the south like Andalucia that only have tourism!
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How much do they owe? Come on.
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C'mon Catalunya is one of the richest countries in europe! They have to pay for poor regions in the south like Andalucia that only have tourism!
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This guy gets it, listen to him. A friend of mine from Barcelona has explained to me at length the ideological differences between Catalunya and other regions of Spain.
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01/24/2013 11:12 AM

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Catalonia if goes independent doesn't want out of the EU, they're would be 7th in the EU in terms of GDP per capita if this happens.

Where would Barcelona FC play if this indeed happens?
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Where would Barcelona FC play if this indeed happens?
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They would easily win their league. No difference to now!
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Where would Barcelona FC play if this indeed happens?
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They would easily win their league. No difference to now!
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chuckle
True, send them to Mars or something.

Last Edited by insertfunnyusername on 01/24/2013 11:16 AM
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I want to live in catalona. Thats my lineage. I am a catalan to the greatest extent... my last name is even catalan.

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