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Alabama gives in to DHS by Executive Order

 
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This is probably a test case. Once ONE MAN controls all the important departments in a state, he can squash ANY attempt to deny federal/Obammy law.

Takes AWAY ALL states rights that they THOUGHT they had, in one stroke of the pen.

To bad you lost, Confederate States. States rights is now completely BURIED !
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It depends on WHO that one man is; a federal govt lackey or a state appointed patriot.

Of course Alabama is only one state of several southern states
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the South loses again.....
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They're all gonna fold the moment the federal dole is threatened. Even the Sheriffs that are standing up will fold...mark my words.

Money talks and liberty walks.
 Quoting: Chip


How much value will that "money" have when the Federal Reserve Notes collapse?

If that "money" loses most of it's value, will it still keep those agencies loyal?
 Quoting: Nemamiah


I have a really bad feeling that none of us will need money as we will be FEMA camp slaves working for a small piece of bread and thin potatoe soup each day.

Arbeit Macht Frei!
 Quoting: Black Knight


You know what's really funny about that ? The ones in office think they will be exempt from camp fema. Dumbasses. They will be some of the first to get crushed by the wheels of the machine.
Reality is irrelevant, perception is the key.

The only thing this world has a shortage of is truth.
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I'm amazed at how easily they're transforming this country into a marxist state.
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By Executive Order the State of Alabama will be consolidating control of various departments to be headed up by a single DHS controller. My understanding is that the DHS head in each state is on he Fed payroll. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

[link to www.dhs.alabama.gov]

the departments by executive order as follows:
The Alabama Department of Public Safety
The Alabama Alcoholic Beverage Control Board
The Alabama Department of Conservation and Natural Resources
The Alabama Department of Homeland Security
The Alabama Department of Insurance / State Fire Marshal

Additionally a bill is going to come through the state legislature to include additional departments...

Governor Bentley also announced Tuesday that legislation aimed at further streamlining state-level law enforcement is currently being finalized and will be submitted to the Alabama Legislature during the 2013 Regular Session.

The legislation will call for absorbing the law enforcement functions of the Alabama Public Service Commission, the Uniformed Division of the Alabama Department of Revenue and certain functions of the Law Enforcement Unit of the Alabama Department of Transportation into the Highway Patrol Division of the Department of Public Safety.

Legislation will also call for absorbing the Investigative and Enforcement Unit of the Alabama Department of Agriculture and Industries and the Enforcement Division of the Alabama Forestry Commission into the Alabama Department of Conservation and Natural Resources. This will help farmers and landowners by further protecting land and resources. Upcoming legislation will also call for absorbing the Alabama Criminal Justice Information Center into the Alabama Department of Public Safety.
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Ths is the Alabama department of homeland security not federal dhs. It is my understanding it was created to keep the fed out as much as they can.
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They're all gonna fold the moment the federal dole is threatened. Even the Sheriffs that are standing up will fold...mark my words.

Money talks and liberty walks.
 Quoting: Chip


How much value will that "money" have when the Federal Reserve Notes collapse?

If that "money" loses most of it's value, will it still keep those agencies loyal?
 Quoting: Nemamiah


I have a really bad feeling that none of us will need money as we will be FEMA camp slaves working for a small piece of bread and thin potatoe soup each day.

Arbeit Macht Frei!
 Quoting: Black Knight


You know what's really funny about that ? The ones in office think they will be exempt from camp fema. Dumbasses. They will be some of the first to get crushed by the wheels of the machine.
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Yes, and let's not forget about burning in the fires of hell for eternity!
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unelected rulers put in by decree. people will rise up or accept unelected rule. guessing nobody will be rising up
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unelected rulers put in by decree. people will rise up or accept unelected rule. guessing nobody will be rising up
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I will guarantee you that the Yellow Hammer-irrespective of its DHSS stance-has hundreds of thousands of people that are ready and willing to "not accept tyranny."

What the "representative who doesn't represent" guy says means nothing.
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Ahhh...I got suckered. Thought that politician was gonna distance the state.gov from dc...I knew better than to vote, and I did it anyway.

That won't happen again.

Fucking fascist.
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LOL, There goes the Alabama State Defense Force. Which was a state run militia
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The members need to quickly re-organize as a private militia for the protection of the state.
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Ths is the Alabama department of homeland security not federal dhs. It is my understanding it was created to keep the fed out as much as they can.
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Yes it is. And as much as I hope you are right, I do not think this is the case. If you look at the directives given to the position you can see how it coordinates with DH-SS. The Fusion program is an information database shared with the Feds, I linked it earlier.
Reality is irrelevant, perception is the key.

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Money must be talking. This is really disturbing to see a southern state fold so easily. I wonder how many other states have this happening ?
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At this point I wouldn't trust any state's government. I want to believe that the states can stand up and say "no" to Washington DC and many are putting up some good resistance, but inspite of the rhetoric of some in the legislatures or some of the governors, Washington DC has been railroading things right through for some time now. Think about it. The DHS didn't even exist 11 years ago and now they are running the police state show. The TSA is molesting innocent people in public in ways that would get the local sheriff fired and sued and not one state has even tried to stop them. Then there are the courts. They couldn't give a rats ass about states rights.

This didn't happen overnight. True state sovereignty has been erroded and erased by decade after decade of purposeful reprogramming. States have become dependent on the federal teat and corrupted by the same. Bottom line is that the same lack of principles we hate Washington DC for is present at the state levels too. It's just not as overtly evil... except for states like NY, IL, and CA which are pretty much satan's little incubators of evil.

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By Executive Order the State of Alabama will be consolidating control of various departments to be headed up by a single DHS controller. My understanding is that the DHS head in each state is on he Fed payroll. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

[link to www.dhs.alabama.gov]

the departments by executive order as follows:
The Alabama Department of Public Safety
The Alabama Alcoholic Beverage Control Board
The Alabama Department of Conservation and Natural Resources
The Alabama Department of Homeland Security
The Alabama Department of Insurance / State Fire Marshal

Additionally a bill is going to come through the state legislature to include additional departments...

Governor Bentley also announced Tuesday that legislation aimed at further streamlining state-level law enforcement is currently being finalized and will be submitted to the Alabama Legislature during the 2013 Regular Session.

The legislation will call for absorbing the law enforcement functions of the Alabama Public Service Commission, the Uniformed Division of the Alabama Department of Revenue and certain functions of the Law Enforcement Unit of the Alabama Department of Transportation into the Highway Patrol Division of the Department of Public Safety.

Legislation will also call for absorbing the Investigative and Enforcement Unit of the Alabama Department of Agriculture and Industries and the Enforcement Division of the Alabama Forestry Commission into the Alabama Department of Conservation and Natural Resources. This will help farmers and landowners by further protecting land and resources. Upcoming legislation will also call for absorbing the Alabama Criminal Justice Information Center into the Alabama Department of Public Safety.
 Quoting: AC 5341


Ths is the Alabama department of homeland security not federal dhs. It is my understanding it was created to keep the fed out as much as they can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6545575




bsflag

DHS is DHS is DHS is DHS ... take a look!

[link to www.dhs.gov]

State Homeland Security Contacts
Alabama

Spencer Collier
Director
Alabama Department of Homeland Security
P.O. Box 304115
Montgomery, Ala. 36130-4115
334-353-3050
Main Fax: 334-223-1120
[link to www.dhs.alabama.gov]


Alaska

John Madden
Director
Alaska Division of Homeland Security & Emergency Services
Department of Military and Veteran Affairs
P.O. Box 5750
Bldg. 4900, Suite B-214
Ft. Richardson, Alaska 99505
907-428-7062
www.ak-prepared.com/

Arizona

Gilbert M. Orrantia
Director
Arizona Department of Homeland Security
1700 West Washington Street, #210
Phoenix, Ariz. 85007
602-542-7013
[link to www.azdohs.gov]

Arkansas

Dave Maxwell
Director
Arkansas Department of Emergency Management
Building 9501
Camp Joseph
North Little Rock, Ark. 72119-9600
501-683-6700
www.adem.arkansas.gov

California

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They're all gonna fold the moment the federal dole is threatened. Even the Sheriffs that are standing up will fold...mark my words.

Money talks and liberty walks.
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this.
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DHS is DHS is DHS is DHS ... take a look!

[link to www.dhs.gov]

State Homeland Security Contacts
Alabama

Spencer Collier
Director
Alabama Department of Homeland Security
P.O. Box 304115
Montgomery, Ala. 36130-4115
334-353-3050
Main Fax: 334-223-1120
[link to www.dhs.alabama.gov]


Alaska

John Madden
Director
Alaska Division of Homeland Security & Emergency Services
Department of Military and Veteran Affairs
P.O. Box 5750
Bldg. 4900, Suite B-214
Ft. Richardson, Alaska 99505
907-428-7062
www.ak-prepared.com/

Arizona

Gilbert M. Orrantia
Director
Arizona Department of Homeland Security
1700 West Washington Street, #210
Phoenix, Ariz. 85007
602-542-7013
[link to www.azdohs.gov]

Arkansas

Dave Maxwell
Director
Arkansas Department of Emergency Management
Building 9501
Camp Joseph
North Little Rock, Ark. 72119-9600
501-683-6700
www.adem.arkansas.gov

California
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That's the best tie in I've seen yet. He is listed as a state employee and a fed employee. Thanks for the info !
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DHS is DHS is DHS is DHS ... take a look!

[link to www.dhs.gov]

State Homeland Security Contacts
Alabama

Spencer Collier
Director
Alabama Department of Homeland Security
P.O. Box 304115
Montgomery, Ala. 36130-4115
334-353-3050
Main Fax: 334-223-1120
[link to www.dhs.alabama.gov]


Alaska

John Madden
Director
Alaska Division of Homeland Security & Emergency Services
Department of Military and Veteran Affairs
P.O. Box 5750
Bldg. 4900, Suite B-214
Ft. Richardson, Alaska 99505
907-428-7062
www.ak-prepared.com/

Arizona

Gilbert M. Orrantia
Director
Arizona Department of Homeland Security
1700 West Washington Street, #210
Phoenix, Ariz. 85007
602-542-7013
[link to www.azdohs.gov]

Arkansas

Dave Maxwell
Director
Arkansas Department of Emergency Management
Building 9501
Camp Joseph
North Little Rock, Ark. 72119-9600
501-683-6700
www.adem.arkansas.gov

California
 Quoting: biscuits and gravy


That's the best tie in I've seen yet. He is listed as a state employee and a fed employee. Thanks for the info !
 Quoting: AC 5341


Wonder what Power the Sheriff has now?
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Wonder what Power the Sheriff has now?
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Same as the rest of us. Die on your feet or live on your knees.
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Wonder what Power the Sheriff has now?
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Same as the rest of us. Die on your feet or live on your knees.
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Yes Sir, You are Correct!
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Wonder what Power the Sheriff has now?
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Same as the rest of us. Die on your feet or live on your knees.
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Yes Sir, You are Correct!
 Quoting: biscuits and gravy


I went through re-education camp. I married a Southern Gal and survived. 22 years and counting.
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.....AND THERE IT IS. Congratulations, you figured it out.
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I was a member of the Alabama State Defense Force for a few years. It was a joke. We NEVER carried or trained with any weapons of any kinds, we were not allowed to carry them.
The only thing I did was to train with the local EMS and take fema courses. And the one time that we could have been called out by the state to do anything (during the tornadoes of 2011) We never got called out. After that I said screw it and Joined the Civil Air Patrol
 Quoting: ModelerX


Hubby was in that waste of time (ASDF) for a while too. He gave up on the "man scouts" a few years back.
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All I can say is good move for your hubby. The only reason I joined was I couldn't join the military, this was a close as I could get and I thought I was helping my state.
Now that I am in Civil Air Patrol (CAP) I feel like I am doing something worth while and I work with people that are true professionals. Of course the flying is great too cool2
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He joined for the same reason. Between having lost half his hearing, a third of his vision, and having seizures as the result of a bullet to the head as a child, no one else would take him. He'd love to do the same, but I seriously doubt he could pass any required vision test to gain a pilot's license.
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They're all gonna fold the moment the federal dole is threatened. Even the Sheriffs that are standing up will fold...mark my words.

Money talks and liberty walks.
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not "all" sheriffs are defending the constitution. i had one snap a picture of my car for no reason at all on a highway. my car is new and we are boring looking. i was pissed still am
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I was a member of the Alabama State Defense Force for a few years. It was a joke. We NEVER carried or trained with any weapons of any kinds, we were not allowed to carry them.
The only thing I did was to train with the local EMS and take fema courses. And the one time that we could have been called out by the state to do anything (during the tornadoes of 2011) We never got called out. After that I said screw it and Joined the Civil Air Patrol
 Quoting: ModelerX


Hubby was in that waste of time (ASDF) for a while too. He gave up on the "man scouts" a few years back.
 Quoting: Deiradella


All I can say is good move for your hubby. The only reason I joined was I couldn't join the military, this was a close as I could get and I thought I was helping my state.
Now that I am in Civil Air Patrol (CAP) I feel like I am doing something worth while and I work with people that are true professionals. Of course the flying is great too cool2
 Quoting: ModelerX


He joined for the same reason. Between having lost half his hearing, a third of his vision, and having seizures as the result of a bullet to the head as a child, no one else would take him. He'd love to do the same, but I seriously doubt he could pass any required vision test to gain a pilot's license.
 Quoting: Deiradella


Well,for what is worth, I do fly BUT I don't have a pilot's License. I can't get one due to heart problems. But the job I am training for in CAP lest me fly up front in the plane telling the pilot where to go. It maybe be worth it for him to look into gocivilairpatrol.com. There is plenty he could do. Hell, I am disabled but They will let you have almost any position you want to do. What I like about it is that its an official volunteer branch of the Air Force. And unlike ASDF we actually do something.
Didn't mead to highjack the tread and try to recruit people.
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They're all gonna fold the moment the federal dole is threatened. Even the Sheriffs that are standing up will fold...mark my words.

Money talks and liberty walks.
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not "all" sheriffs are defending the constitution. i had one snap a picture of my car for no reason at all on a highway. my car is new and we are boring looking. i was pissed still am
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When I posted "all", I meant the states, counties, cities...etc.
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Hubby was in that waste of time (ASDF) for a while too. He gave up on the "man scouts" a few years back.
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All I can say is good move for your hubby. The only reason I joined was I couldn't join the military, this was a close as I could get and I thought I was helping my state.
Now that I am in Civil Air Patrol (CAP) I feel like I am doing something worth while and I work with people that are true professionals. Of course the flying is great too cool2
 Quoting: ModelerX


He joined for the same reason. Between having lost half his hearing, a third of his vision, and having seizures as the result of a bullet to the head as a child, no one else would take him. He'd love to do the same, but I seriously doubt he could pass any required vision test to gain a pilot's license.
 Quoting: Deiradella


Well,for what is worth, I do fly BUT I don't have a pilot's License. I can't get one due to heart problems. But the job I am training for in CAP lest me fly up front in the plane telling the pilot where to go. It maybe be worth it for him to look into gocivilairpatrol.com. There is plenty he could do. Hell, I am disabled but They will let you have almost any position you want to do. What I like about it is that its an official volunteer branch of the Air Force. And unlike ASDF we actually do something.
Didn't mead to highjack the tread and try to recruit people.
 Quoting: ModelerX


Thanks for the info.
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All I can say is good move for your hubby. The only reason I joined was I couldn't join the military, this was a close as I could get and I thought I was helping my state.
Now that I am in Civil Air Patrol (CAP) I feel like I am doing something worth while and I work with people that are true professionals. Of course the flying is great too cool2
 Quoting: ModelerX


He joined for the same reason. Between having lost half his hearing, a third of his vision, and having seizures as the result of a bullet to the head as a child, no one else would take him. He'd love to do the same, but I seriously doubt he could pass any required vision test to gain a pilot's license.
 Quoting: Deiradella


Well,for what is worth, I do fly BUT I don't have a pilot's License. I can't get one due to heart problems. But the job I am training for in CAP lest me fly up front in the plane telling the pilot where to go. It maybe be worth it for him to look into gocivilairpatrol.com. There is plenty he could do. Hell, I am disabled but They will let you have almost any position you want to do. What I like about it is that its an official volunteer branch of the Air Force. And unlike ASDF we actually do something.
Didn't mead to highjack the tread and try to recruit people.
 Quoting: ModelerX


Thanks for the info.
 Quoting: Deiradella


thanks to both of you for the info
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I don't know how deeply the DH-SS has infiltrated the NJ government, but I was amazed to find how much of the paperwork and forms we have at work are all originated in the DH-SS!

They are everywhere and they watch everything. Herr Hess is most certainly smiling up at them from his flaming pit in hell! The dimwitted idiots in this country have been totally mind-fucked and distracted by these Jack Booted scum and will most certainly pay the price down the road as they are loaded into railcars for their FEMA vacations.
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say it again, PLEASE!
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thanks to both of you for the info


I hope in a good way
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