SIRIUS - Full Trailer out! Looks like its gonna be rather astonishing! for those whom aren't prepared!

Sirius, the UFO star -
[link to www.youtube.com]

Sirius, the Star People of Mail, Africa:
[link to 2012portal.myfeedportal.com]


Sirius is seriously a lot in the news lately!

It's all coming together...

The problem is that this is aimed at who? Those who are gullible enough to part with their cash in order to perpetuate the notion that something big and exciting is about to happen to brighten up their otherwise mundane lives.

People need to educate themselves, not repeat the same things that they've heard other people repeat.

Like another poster here I can't watch some videos on my computer so I can only assume that the film will have a few valid points to make about free energy and so on (as there is plenty of it around), but UFOs and the like are about as credible as Superman to most people - we all like to watch a good movie about stuff like this but it won't have the sort of effect that Zeitgeist Addendum did because it's too cranky. Sorry, but it is.

yeah when's it coming out??

feb-march

This film will inspire people to dig and affirm those whom already are.

the exact opposite of what you just said.

We all know the DNA results will be marked "inconclusive" basically confirming nothing either way, leaving people to say "aliens" or "not aliens".

:alienbitch:

Its rubbish.

Greer is a fraud.

I agree.

Probably a fetus of a feline or canine???

Understand this, while Greer and his group may have good intentions, I believe that they are discounting another possibility: the interdimensional hypothesis
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It's entirely possible that other beings besides ourselves share this world with us. If they can exist outside the three dimensions that we exist in, it would explain a lot.

The passage of their crafts while seeming to be space craft often display odd characteristics like elongation, morphing, disappearing, reappearing, speeds which should kill based upon enormous G forces, etc.

If they are able to enter our perception at right angles to our three dimensions, that would explain all of the above as their 4th dimensional (or more) crafts and being can transpose through our own 3D existence.

People have always assumed odd things about aliens. Either they are traveling enormous distances to colonize us, or they are benevolent Godlike beings who wish us peace.

Consider more options. A superior being in history was very likely to overthrow nations with superior technology. Enslaved that nation. Used up that nation's resouces. Changed that nation's spiritual practices.

It's entirely possible and plausible that we are like bugs to them. We may be like an species going extinct and they don't care if that happens. It could be why they haven't openly revealed themselves, for we likely are competing with the Earth's resources.

They could be malevolent.

Much of the documentary is based upon the idea of hidden technology that either is slowly doled out by world governments in the know, or supressed because it would change everything. What if aliens released a technology like a biotoxin that produced an unstoppable plague? What if they caused us to create a technology that caused a pollution that only harmed humans?

Seldom in world history has a powerful nation allowed a less powerful nation technology that would allow it to compete.

Use good critical thinking. Rather than traveling vast distances which would require enormous speed, fuel, and time, maybe they don't have to travel far at all. Maybe they live in the vast oceans but in another dimension.

If you're interested in the interdimensional hypothesis, there are many books by Jacques Vallee about that subject, in particular a trilogy of books.

ECETI Ranch and channeling? Sounds like demonic possession to me

It's good to examine new data, and Greer's group is enthusiastic and probing. Let's hope that it's beneficial, but my gut hunch is his group is being used to change attitudes about "extraterrestrials". I've heard a lot about channeling in these talks. That troubles me. That sounds more like possession and not communication.


Look at the abduction phenomena. It makes no sense from a scientific standpoint. There are too many of them and too many dispassionate aliens doing things which seem very cruel like biological breeding programs. That all smack of a diabolical plan.

It's entirely possible that more than one species of beings is here, and this is why there are so many unusual craft and beings seen. Some may be benevolent, neutral, or evil.
[link to www.thewakeup.co.uk]
[link to downloads.thedaily.com]

Foo fighters, airships, vimanas, cubes from Brazil, etc
[link to 2.bp.blogspot.com]
Why so many craft types? Think about from the airships of the 1897, to discs to wings to orbs etc. Russian cosmonauts have seen gigantic angel beings, tiny beings have been seen, odd furry creatures, reptilians, nordic beautiful beings, grays, etc. Could some of it be a kind of mental projection? Some kind of screen or hologram to confuse? Some photos are taken, but they are so different. It seems very odd.

A lot of people are very innocent and naive. They assume too much about the intention of these beings. Believe me, I also want the beings to be benevolent. If not, then they could easily annihilate us.

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 01/25/2013 06:28 AM

amen

The ECETI folks and Greer believe in trying to perceive beings that are hanging around the ranch. Those beings appear in ways that depict famous spiritual teachers or historical figures. See:


Doesn't it seem strange that a being would communicate in this way? Can you think how that could manipulate people?

In UFO studies these people were most often called contactees.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

There is great potential for abusing another being doing things like this. It is possession or displacement of the natural soul or consciousness in some circumstances. Other times it is the supernatural appearance of beings. Watch that video.

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 01/25/2013 06:23 AM

Great post, suggested pin. Any ideas when its out? would love to watch it

Do research before posting something that is without merit. Greer talks about inter-dimensional beings all the time. Read his book then edit your post

What I have written is not without merit. To debate that, you would have to discount the points and show the invalidity or implausibility of my statements and conclusions.

I have read about Greer, watched his productions, followed his ideas for a long time.

It's why I know he believes both in engines of great power to traverse time and space(the typical extraterrestrial hypothesis) as well as dimension (the interdimensional hypothesis). It's why I listed him as also being favorable to the work of ECETI which clearly proposes beings which can enter our realm without a vehicle.

If you disagree with my post, then I encourage you to dissect and disprove my observations. Look at all of what I wrote.

I will not edit my post.

[link to books.google.com]
When Dr. Greer speaks of interdimensional beings, as above in that link, he is discussing that all beings exist in more than 3D ultimately.

He's also saying that beings from outside the Earth (extraterrestrials) arrive via space ships from other worlds. That's a far cry from the interdimensional hypothesis.

[link to drgreersblog.disclosureproject.org]
"Many people in the UFO subculture who are not aware of the physics behind UFOs state that they are not ET but are inter-dimensional. But this is like arguing about whether an orange is round OR the color orange when it is obviously both. They are both ET and Inter-dimensional.

By definition: Any ET civilization from another star system that has reached earth or our solar system must be Trans-dimensional. You cannot get from one star system to another at or below the speed of light. It is just too slow. And this means that ALL ET civilizations visiting us are TDIS: Trans-Dimensional Interstellar."

He's discussing interdimensional in respect to folding space, which is not the interdimensional hypothesis proposed by Vallee whatsoever. That proposes no Faster than Light spaceships at all, for that breaks the laws of Physics and so impossible. Vallee discusses the Earthly presence of beings who move dimensionally and is a scientist. Greer is a osteopathic physician.

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 01/25/2013 08:39 AM

No it won't. Barely anyone's heard of Greer in the real world - this film won't change anything except his bank balance.

Z

Well yes and no. Dr. Greer is obviously an educated man. He's managed to do something no one has done prior, get a collection of highly credible military witnesses with a high level of exemplory record as well as technical ability. He's managed to create a public event at the National Press Club and market the program such that it got media attention. He's communicated well some ideas (some not so well) by persuading people to donate to the video production and yet also made the material available on places like youtube. Let's not totally belittle his accomplishments.

It will be very difficult to get scientists to study the phenomena because they fear loss of credibility. And yet, what could be more interesting to study from an academic perspective, and certainly should be examined from an Anthrological as well as a Theological perspective too.

I don't agree with his assertions. He's trying to communicate with Extraterrestrials. 1) We don't know if they are extraterrestrials. 2) Why not use standard protocols that have been devised by scientists at NASA and elsewhere? 3) The more such definition and adherance to protocol, the more likely you'd get funding and other scientists to be on the team.

If alien tech is being supressed then the main thing would be trying to find patents which demonstrate alien technology or show evidence of tech which cannot be explained by terrestrial means.

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 01/25/2013 11:42 AM

In brief, we have protocols for commincating with any beings other than ourselves. We use such protocols with SETI or did in the Voyager program.
[link to voyager.jpl.nasa.gov]
[link to www.seti.org]

Any lifeform can come into being by unique change over time. Since a being is a dynamic creature that uses senses and often has language, beside the inner world of ideas, then encountering another species that may or may not be terrestrial would be highly complex.

They could have senses which we do not. We largely rely upon our sense of sight, but our sense of sight is extremely narrow. Our sense of smell is also narrow. Our sense of hearing is as well.

Using communication is often verbal and therefore the Other perceives based upon listening and then they make their own sounds.

There are two main schools of thought. Life might be a series of patterns in a predictable way which result in species forming as bacteria, simple plants, simple microcellular organisims, complex plants, simple animals, complex animals, cognizant beings of high complexity (humanity).

If life is a series of patterns, then maybe a cognizant being looks like us, but that would be a shocking idea since the planet they life on might be far different in terms of gravity, water availability, climate, etc.

If life is random, then their bodies would likely be very different and expected.

The best way of communicating with beings would be an orderly protocol based upon logic and reason and probably using mathematics. See SETI and Voyager.

If the goal is communicating with other beings, then Dr. Greer should follow those protocols and by doing so would gain far more respect among scientists.

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 01/25/2013 08:33 PM

Instead, here is how Dr. Greer proposes communication with extraterrestrials:
[link to suite101.com]

"Meditation for ET Contact

The following is a condensed version of the meditation Dr. Greer teaches. The complete meditation is available in his book, Hidden Truth Forbidden Knowledge. Once everyone is in a deep meditative stage, the person leading the meditation should instruct people to envision themselves going up into the sky. Continue having them ascend until they are high enough and look down and observe the planet Earth.

The leader will then describe what Earth looks like from space and then have them continue through the solar system and into the Milky Way. Describe what they should be seeing with all of the planets and stars. Make them feel as if they have a oneness with the universe.

Next, group participants are invited to explore the universe and look for any signs of extraterrestrial life and their spacecrafts. If found, have the group mentally invite the ETs to come with them to show them man's solar system along with the planet Earth. At the same time, the leader must ask the group to ask a higher power to grant peace to everyone on Earth."

Read that. It's not a scientific method. It's communicating via meditation. It's not verifable. The only way it would be, would be to evaluate the knowledge gained through such communication.

However logically, another human could pass along information, couldn't they?

The only way such meditation communication would be accepted would be the communication of some information which cannot be determined by human analysis. Say the discovered of elements and then a way of determining with proof of such elements.

Or a mathematical formula which is beyond our current understanding. Or a physical law which is beyond our current understanding. Both would have to be provable.

Meditation sounds like channeling and is not scientific and hence why his work is more like a sincere person trying but failing to persuade in the end.

In reality, what Dr. Greer is proposing is much like the work of contactees as I previously discussed. It's more like a religion of extraterrestrials. It would be more intellectually honest to admit that, rather than act as if it's scientific inquiry.

There's nothing wrong with spirituality, as long as it's honest. To me however for all of the reasons above, it is playing with Fire, for the beings could be malevolent.

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 01/25/2013 08:42 PM

Best summation, when he says "the problem is not proving that UFOs exist. It's when you begin to expose the energy and propulsion systems behind how they're getting here ..."

That's the real reason we're being kept in the dark about UFOs and ETs/extradimensional beings.

Now, have we ever received any communication from a being other than human that resulted in knowledge that was beyond that human being?

Yes.

Stan Romanek is an example. We don't know if he's being honest or not. Here's an analysis of the equations he received in a manner like what Dr. Greer is proposing.
[link to www.synchronizeduniverse.com]
It's a long document 29 pages long, and some of you may enjoy reading it.


I don't necessarily subscribe to the transmission method or believe it, but it's interesting as a person interested in UFOs and their origin.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 01/25/2013 09:01 PM

You are a flaming idiot, calling names of liberals, Obama and anyone else not of your philosophical views. Where as enlighten people are well aware of the zero differences between the powerful liberals and powerful conservatives. You happen to have selected a side to sleep with. Therefore by default my friend you are a useful idiot.

arent we from sirius?