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Marine corps and Navy now restrict alcohol

 
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Marine corps and Navy now restrict alcohol
So, when are we going to have drug testing for law enforcement?

For Congress?

The Navy said Wednesday it will conduct random blood-alcohol tests on its sailors in the United States starting next month, a sign of how concerned the service's leaders have become about the effects alcohol abuse is having on the force.

The tests are part of Navy Secretary Ray Mabus' 21st Century Sailor and Marine Initiative, an expansive program intended to improve the well-being of sailors and Marines after more than a decade at war
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(Can you think of other improvements they could make which might reduce stress and diminish drinking?)


The Marine Corps‘ new on-duty standard for drinking alcohol is so strict that less than one drink at lunch would trigger a “positive” and get a warrior in hot water.

The Washington Times reported earlier this week that the Corps sent a Dec. 12 message to commanders officially beginning mandatory breath tests for all 197,000 Marines twice each year



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01/23/2013 11:40 PM
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Re: Marine corps and Navy now restrict alcohol
Having one drink at lunch suggests that a person has a drinking problem.
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01/24/2013 12:37 AM
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When i was a shipmate, we took alot of acid. No easy way to trace it.

Hell, drinking is such a huge part of the Navy its even mentioned in Anchors Aweigh.
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Re: Marine corps and Navy now restrict alcohol
Maybe Sharia Law is slowly being implemented.

The Prophet Muhammad also instructed his followers, at the time, to avoid any intoxicating substances -- (paraphrased) "if it intoxicates in a large amount, it is forbidden even in a small amount." For this reason, most observant Muslims avoid alcohol in any form, even small amounts that are sometimes used in cooking.

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Meanwhile in the Bible, Jesus was turning water into wine.
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Re: Marine corps and Navy now restrict alcohol
Maybe Sharia Law is slowly being implemented.

The Prophet Muhammad also instructed his followers, at the time, to avoid any intoxicating substances -- (paraphrased) "if it intoxicates in a large amount, it is forbidden even in a small amount." For this reason, most observant Muslims avoid alcohol in any form, even small amounts that are sometimes used in cooking.

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Meanwhile in the Bible, Jesus was turning water into wine.
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Muslims also avoid alcohol in perfumes.

By this logic, we should also avoid carrots, since they contain cannabinoids and may be intoxicating in large doses.

And lettice, which has drug like effects
[link to www.henriettesherbal.com]

sugar?
[link to www.lurj.org]

The Reclassification of Sugar as a Drug

[link to www.princeton.edu]

Sugar on the brain: Study shows sugar dependence in rats

There is no way to apply that religious edict in any scientifically defensible way. Orange juice contains considerable alcohol, depending on how it is stored.
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The UK only ended daily Grog a few years ago. It used to be mandatory for their boring Navy. Historically the rum used sanitized the water supply, while they added lime juice to prevent scurvy.

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Lincoln's economic advisor Henry C. Carey explained the universal issue in his 1851 Harmony of Interests:

"Two systems are before the world.... One looks to pauperism, ignorance, depopulation, and barbarism; the other to increasing wealth, comfort, intelligence, combination of action, and civilization. One looks towards universal war; the other towards universal peace. One is the English system; the other ... the American system, for ... elevating while equalizing the condition of man throughout the world."
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Having one drink at lunch suggests that a person has a drinking problem.
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Now you are just being silly.
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Now they can prescribe psycho drugs SRIs and watch what happens. By comparison alcohol is harmless.

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"With an eye made quiet by the power of harmony and the deep power of joy, we see into the life of things." William Wordsworth

And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God.

John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address

Lincoln's economic advisor Henry C. Carey explained the universal issue in his 1851 Harmony of Interests:

"Two systems are before the world.... One looks to pauperism, ignorance, depopulation, and barbarism; the other to increasing wealth, comfort, intelligence, combination of action, and civilization. One looks towards universal war; the other towards universal peace. One is the English system; the other ... the American system, for ... elevating while equalizing the condition of man throughout the world."
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Not 1 in 1000 defends the Constitution.
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Now they can prescribe psycho drugs SRIs and watch what happens. By comparison alcohol is harmless.
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Replace it with their Supersoldier formula?

Reavers on the port bow...

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"According to military sources, the use of such drugs (commonly Dexedrine) is part of a cycle that includes the amphetamines to fight fatigue, and then sedatives to induce sleep between missions. Pilots call them "go pills" and "no-go pills." For most Air Force pilots in the Gulf War (and nearly all pilots in some squadrons), this was the pattern as well.

The drugs are legal, and pilots are not required to take them; although their careers may suffer if they refuse.

Amphetamines follow a pattern that goes back at least 40 years to the early days of the Vietnam War – further back if one counts strong military coffee as a stimulant. But they're also part of a new trend that foresees "performance enhancements" designed to produce "iron bodied and iron willed personnel," as outlined in one document of the US Special Operations Command, which oversees the elite special-operations troops..."
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Re: Marine corps and Navy now restrict alcohol
So, when are we going to have drug testing for law enforcement?

For Congress?

The Navy said Wednesday it will conduct random blood-alcohol tests on its sailors in the United States starting next month, a sign of how concerned the service's leaders have become about the effects alcohol abuse is having on the force.

The tests are part of Navy Secretary Ray Mabus' 21st Century Sailor and Marine Initiative, an expansive program intended to improve the well-being of sailors and Marines after more than a decade at war
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(Can you think of other improvements they could make which might reduce stress and diminish drinking?)


The Marine Corps‘ new on-duty standard for drinking alcohol is so strict that less than one drink at lunch would trigger a “positive” and get a warrior in hot water.

The Washington Times reported earlier this week that the Corps sent a Dec. 12 message to commanders officially beginning mandatory breath tests for all 197,000 Marines twice each year



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 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


I don't see how you could drink at lunch anyhow. The messhall sure doesn't serve it. If we went off post for lunch, it was usually Wendy's or McDonalds.

All the combat zones are dry, as far as i know, not that stuff doesn't get smuggled in.

But being a soldier on my 4th, 5th, or 6th combat tour, I think I might be looking for some relief in a few drinks now and then.

I'm just glad I am not dealing with that.

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