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ANTIBIOTIC APOCALYPSE LOOMING, Warns Health Chief Sally Davies
Dame Sally Davies has described the rising risk of antibiotic resistance as a bigger threat than global warming and has warned that the population could be facing an "apocalyptic scenario".


The chief medical officer for the Department of Health was speaking to MPs at a science and technology committee meeting.

She told them: "It is clear that we might never see global warming. The apocalyptic scenario is that, if I need a new hip in 20 years, I'll die from a routine infection because we've run out of antibiotics."

Davies said that 80 percent of gonorrhoea cases were now resistant to antibiotics and the number of cases among young and middle-aged people was on the rise.
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Good post OP this is some serious doom … one day we will reap the HELL from over using antibiotics

Here was a post I did on Gonorrhea that is resistant

Thread: The gift that keeps on giving LOL
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Good post OP this is some serious doom … one day we will reap the HELL from over using antibiotics

Here was a post I did on Gonorrhea that is resistant

Thread: The gift that keeps on giving LOL
 Quoting: YaRight

Thanks YaRight,

This stuff is scary...
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I agree it’s scary… we don’t take antibiotics at our house… if its viral it really wont help. But my wife and I know soooo many parents that at the first runny nose they take the kid to the doctor for meds
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Good post OP this is some serious doom … one day we will reap the HELL from over using antibiotics

Here was a post I did on Gonorrhea that is resistant

Thread: The gift that keeps on giving LOL
 Quoting: YaRight


we already are

necrotizing fasciitis

is due in part to strep infection gone wild due to overuse of antibiotics

and you are right

it will be hell
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duh
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mericans eat that shit like tic tacs, what do you expect?
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in other words "we're scared most people have found out that fish antibiotics are the exact same as those prescribed by doctors, so we need to try to scare people from not using them by making up bullshit about them not being used effectively causes bacteria to become resistant"
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I agree it’s scary… we don’t take antibiotics at our house… if its viral it really wont help. But my wife and I know soooo many parents that at the first runny nose they take the kid to the doctor for meds
 Quoting: YaRight


I've never understood people taking antibiotics cause "they don't feel well". Antibiotics make you feel so much worse!

Any sane person would realize they should only be used in certain situations like surgery or life threatening pneumonia.

I've taken them about three times in the last whole three decades, maybe. Once for a cat bite and once for some oral surgery, I think. Maybe it was only twice.
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Please remember that colloidal silver can never be outmaneuvered by viruses and bacteria, no matter how much they mutate into superbugs. Its effect is mechanical: a negatively charged silver ion attaches to the virus/bacteria and prevents it from replicating. It's actually kind of low-tech and hence the system cannot fail. The silver ions don't care how wily and exotic the virus/bacteria are, they just do their job.
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Guess she would never mention COLLOIDAL SILVER ... It never loses its ability to fight bugs.
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I agree it’s scary… we don’t take antibiotics at our house… if its viral it really wont help. But my wife and I know soooo many parents that at the first runny nose they take the kid to the doctor for meds
 Quoting: YaRight


I've never understood people taking antibiotics cause "they don't feel well". Antibiotics make you feel so much worse!

Any sane person would realize they should only be used in certain situations like surgery or life threatening pneumonia.

I've taken them about three times in the last whole three decades, maybe. Once for a cat bite and once for some oral surgery, I think. Maybe it was only twice.
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it is because a lot of people are not too smart and take what is said by their provider
as gospel instead of thinking for themselves

and run to doc for every little problem and doc usually prescribes a med to;

1. make whinner feel like something was done for them

2. provider makes money on visit
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Gonnoreah is easily avoided if you aren't scum
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I agree it’s scary… we don’t take antibiotics at our house… if its viral it really wont help. But my wife and I know soooo many parents that at the first runny nose they take the kid to the doctor for meds
 Quoting: YaRight


What kind of doctor hands out antibiotics like candy for every little sniffle?

Those docs should get there wrists slapped for contributing to the problem.
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I agree it’s scary… we don’t take antibiotics at our house… if its viral it really wont help. But my wife and I know soooo many parents that at the first runny nose they take the kid to the doctor for meds
 Quoting: YaRight


What kind of doctor hands out antibiotics like candy for every little sniffle?

Those docs should get there wrists slapped for contributing to the problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


ha ha ha

you live in canada

this is 3rd world usa
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they would rather let people die than use natural antibiotics that can't be patented.

That's very sad, stock up on oregano oil, gse, colloidal silver.
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I agree it’s scary… we don’t take antibiotics at our house… if its viral it really wont help. But my wife and I know soooo many parents that at the first runny nose they take the kid to the doctor for meds
 Quoting: YaRight


What kind of doctor hands out antibiotics like candy for every little sniffle?

Those docs should get there wrists slapped for contributing to the problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


Ya its crazy down here...they do hand it out like candy

Thankfully we have a great family doc that’s taken care of my family for years and he is not one hand it out like candy. But after talking with him the other day he is going to retire soon, he does not want to deal with the new healthcare crap
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I agree it’s scary… we don’t take antibiotics at our house… if its viral it really wont help. But my wife and I know soooo many parents that at the first runny nose they take the kid to the doctor for meds
 Quoting: YaRight


What kind of doctor hands out antibiotics like candy for every little sniffle?

Those docs should get there wrists slapped for contributing to the problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


Ya its crazy down here...they do hand it out like candy

Thankfully we have a great family doc that’s taken care of my family for years and he is not one hand it out like candy. But after talking with him the other day he is going to retire soon, he does not want to deal with the new healthcare crap
 Quoting: YaRight


they get money for each prescription that is written

if this helps
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no one needz entibioticz,they create deedly becteria.

they erent the enzwer. the enzwer iz end gmo food, meke the enviroment lezz ecidic. immune zytem will be ztronger
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no one needz entibioticz,they create deedly becteria.

they erent the enzwer. the enzwer iz end gmo food, meke the enviroment lezz ecidic. immune zytem will be ztronger
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WOW....Really?

Put down the pipe and walk away
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Ca. 2015, that is the final Point of No Return
or we find a new Anti-Biotic Super-Drug like NEEM for example,
but for NEEM Products we need a Governmental Institution
who is doing this because a Company will never do this!

NEEM: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

I am also sure that we would be find something in the Rain-Forest and/ or the Sea!
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I use poke berries...they work fast
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in other words "we're scared most people have found out that fish antibiotics are the exact same as those prescribed by doctors, so we need to try to scare people from not using them by making up bullshit about them not being used effectively causes bacteria to become resistant"
 Quoting: 508527
Probably true. What they need to stop doing is force feeding cattle antibiotics. That is were most of the resistance is built up and then inherited by people after they consume dairy products.
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I use poke berries...they work fast
 Quoting: littlemiracles


Errr how do you use poke berries? They're poisonous unless cooked and even then they can make you sick.
[link to www.nlm.nih.gov]

Typically herbalists used the berries for ink.

....
Re the topic, my professor of microbiology quizzed the class on day one, and said, "How many of you believe we'll be using antibiotics in 20 years?" Everyone but me raised their hands. Then he asked me my name and asked why, and I explained it was an old method and by then we'd have genomics or other alternatives like combining essential oils like they're doing in England with MRSA. He said, "Quite right. The rest of you are wrong."

He's a noted lecturer and teacher and gets complex cases from across the USA.

EDIT: By the way, the most likely situation would be to add antibiotics together like a cocktail. That makes for tough resistance to bacteria adaptation. It won't last long though. We've overprescribed antibiotics for decades.

Because a lot of herbs contain thousands of phytochemicals versus an antibiotic, then maybe we might be able to keep using them since there's too many for the bacteria to adapt to. We especially might be able to do things like combining grapefruit seed (but problems with existing medicines sensitive to cytochrome P450), with olive leaf.

A lot of antibiotics interfere with some crucial aspect of replication. Those are called mechanisms of action in pharmacology. See this link for a basic explantion. I'm sure a lot of you are preppers (like me) who might have fish to treat (ahem).
[link to www.life.umd.edu]

Remember this, vancomysin is V for vanquish pretty much anything. It's your go to drug when what you have isn't working and you're in full freakout mode.

For cleandown of contaminated areas, using tea tree will kill a ton.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

For prion based issues (totally different subject, but could be an issue later post-collapse with all of the home butchering of livestock) then copper kills them.
[link to www.copper.org]

Mad Cow disease (BSE) is in this category. Again not to confuse you since this is prions not bacteria, but will be something to be careful of.

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no one needz entibioticz,they create deedly becteria.

they erent the enzwer. the enzwer iz end gmo food, meke the enviroment lezz ecidic. immune zytem will be ztronger
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32841706


WOW....Really?

Put down the pipe and walk away
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lol or give me what his smoking :)
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bump
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Good post OP this is some serious doom … one day we will reap the HELL from over using antibiotics

Here was a post I did on Gonorrhea that is resistant

Thread: The gift that keeps on giving LOL
 Quoting: YaRight


we already are

necrotizing fasciitis

is due in part to strep infection gone wild due to overuse of antibiotics

and you are right

it will be hell
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don't under estimate the damage gram negative bacteria can do...

enterobactor cloacea(sic) almost took my step-son's life...

they treated for strep right after surger(strep is gram positive)

the gram negative ran rampant...

they almost killed him, he almost lost his leg, and his case wasn't the only one on the ortho floor with strange and rare bacterial infections...

because of my researching and questioning, we ended up with the Director of Infectious Disease on our case(Dr. Cua)...and that was only after the atterny had visited our room and debated us...watch out for patient advocates as well, found out this one worked in the atterny's office...can you say 'spy'...6 surgeries and 5 weeks later, 40 lbs lighter and no longer able to use his foot due to damage done to the tendon from surgeries(was able to move the foot upto the last surgery, then no more), My step son is alive but it is highly unlikely he will never be as athletic as he once was...

AND, at 23, he is now bankrupt...over 1 million dollars in bills...



take lots and lots of notes, make sure they see you doing it and never leave the note book laying around...it is your amunition...even if every thing is going swimmingly, you just never know when things will turn for the worse...and then it is almost too late to start with the documentation...

AND ALWAYS QUESTION THE DRUGS THEY ARE GIVING...if I hadn't, I believe Kieth would be dead right now.

I really do thank the Lord for giving me the strenth to sit by him day and night for 5 weeks to watch over him and over what they were doing to him and with him...

at one point, for you Doc's and Nurses out there, his tempurature went from 96.2 to 103 in 45 minutes, his blood pressure dropped to 95/53, with a heart rate of 122 bpm...

when they finally opened the cast and the leg, pus ran out over the table onto the floor...I actually over heard an OR nurse discussing it the next day when he was back in surgery, yes back to back surgeries, for infection in the knee...they cleaned the shin/ankle and the next day the knee was a cantalope...the infection was traveling up and down the leg...

ugly ugly ugly

never, never leave your loved ones unattended...EVER

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Gonnoreah is easily avoided if you aren't scum
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some people live with scum and don't know it...
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I guess I will be the one to mention food-grade hydrogen peroxide and manuka honey.
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I guess I will be the one to mention food-grade hydrogen peroxide and manuka honey.
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please expand on this