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Stop Smart Guns OR START PAYING $10,000+ FOR A LEGAL GUN THAT CAN BE REMOTELY DISABLED

 
Ralph--a house dog

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....."Then Obama issued his ‘executive orders’, or rather, made a speech about guns, including measures that could further the introduction of these 'personalized' weapons. The mainstream has also been reporting on this issue, so I’m mystified as to why there is still no real reaction: the focus of gun rights advocates remains on the mental ‘health’ aspect.

So excuse me for shouting, but it’s high time to:

DEMAND A PLAN TO STOP SMART GUNS BECAUSE:

THEY CAN BE REMOTELY DISABLED
THEY WOULD LEAD TO MICROCHIP IMPLANTS
DUMB GUNS ARE SET TO BECOME ILLEGAL AS THEY WILL BE DEEMED UNSAFE

..... the proposed large-scale manufacture of smart guns should be dominating the gun control debate in America, because they seem set to be regulated as a consumer product, which must therefore have safety features – so ALL guns would need to conform. This would enable ‘wide area control’, meaning any gun could be remotely disabled.

When the authorities decide they don’t want you to use your gun, they can just switch it off. The White House is now poised to act, and the guns are ready to go into production. The next move is to get the approval of Congress – probably legislation to bring guns (and/or safety mechanisms) under the Consumer Product Safety Act

The issue needs a good public airing well before that. Especially since ‘Anonymous’ put out a video inciting Americans to fight their government:

"American people have decided to openly declare war on the United States government. This is a call to arms. We call upon the Citizens of the United States to stand beside us in overthrowing this corrupted body and call upon a new era." (quoting Anonymous)

Rising up with guns is a surefire way to convince Congress to legislate the manufacture of ‘safe’ guns. A color revolution for the smart world order, for which the table has already been laid.

MUCH MORE AT [link to www.activistpost.com]

Last Edited by Ralph--a house dog on 01/24/2013 02:53 PM
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Not many people can afford $14,000 guns...
Ralph--a house dog (OP)

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01/24/2013 02:18 PM

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from [link to www.activistpost.com]

"It is highly surprising that no direct reference was made to smart guns during the speeches given that day, given the massive movement now endorsing smart gun technology, and the support of key government officials.

The President called for support from the nation, and from Congress, but without making it clear which specific actions he wanted them to support – the line of reasoning got lost towards the end as he just kept referring to ‘this’ and ‘it’.

However, metaphors for ‘safe’ gun technology (and mental health checks) were scattered throughout -

“ways to keep guns out of the wrong hands”
“ keep guns out of the hands of criminals”
“kept … the wrong people from getting their hands on a gun”
“keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people”
“keep guns out of the wrong hands”

This repetition helps prime the mind to accept the proposals which look set to come soon. The overall theme is to suggest that anyone who rejects the proposals clearly doesn’t care about ‘the children’; you have to show you care.

The NRA-ILA website singles out four of Obama’s ‘executive orders’ as being “the most potentially problematic”; one of these is personalized firearms:

… Obama will direct Holder to issue a report designed to promote 'smart' gun technologies that gun owners generally do not want, and that would raise the cost of firearms and potentially render them useless.
"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein

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"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"
----Dylan Thomas
Ralph--a house dog (OP)

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Not many people can afford $14,000 guns...
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That seems to be the idea behind having them be the only legal guns available.
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what if perps hack the signal and rob you, only to laugh at you as they fire round after round from their non smart weapons into you holding your now hacked smart weapon.
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This would be tantamount to an act of war.
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This is most likely the way it will go down.

I dont think it even needs to cost 10000 per gun
probably only 50 to 100 per gun built in at the manufacture
most people will swallow that for a "safer" world.
sheell be right mate
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01/24/2013 03:49 PM
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Thanks OP, now I've got to go write my reps again.No doubt this is what they are planning.
I like my guns dumb.
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won't criminals be able to steal smartguns and disable the technology? so once again law abiding citizens will be defenseless.
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won't criminals be able to steal smartguns and disable the technology? so once again law abiding citizens will be defenseless.
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There's always hackers, so it seems likely that some could.
"Who decides?"
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"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"
----Dylan Thomas
Ralph--a house dog (OP)

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Thanks OP, now I've got to go write my reps again.No doubt this is what they are planning.
I like my guns dumb.
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They are keeping quiet about it, too, hoping to pull a sneaky deal before too much of an uproar is made over it.
"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein

[link to www.westcoasttruth.com]

"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"
----Dylan Thomas
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won't criminals be able to steal smartguns and disable the technology? so once again law abiding citizens will be defenseless.
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There's always hackers, so it seems likely that some could.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


i'll bet you they can be hacked
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take your guns and hide them
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You could probably buy them cheaper on the street then that..
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[link to www.activistpost.com]

....."Then Obama issued his ‘executive orders’, or rather, made a speech about guns, including measures that could further the introduction of these 'personalized' weapons. The mainstream has also been reporting on this issue, so I’m mystified as to why there is still no real reaction: the focus of gun rights advocates remains on the mental ‘health’ aspect.

So excuse me for shouting, but it’s high time to:

DEMAND A PLAN TO STOP SMART GUNS BECAUSE:

THEY CAN BE REMOTELY DISABLED
THEY WOULD LEAD TO MICROCHIP IMPLANTS
DUMB GUNS ARE SET TO BECOME ILLEGAL AS THEY WILL BE DEEMED UNSAFE

..... the proposed large-scale manufacture of smart guns should be dominating the gun control debate in America, because they seem set to be regulated as a consumer product, which must therefore have safety features – so ALL guns would need to conform. This would enable ‘wide area control’, meaning any gun could be remotely disabled.

When the authorities decide they don’t want you to use your gun, they can just switch it off. The White House is now poised to act, and the guns are ready to go into production. The next move is to get the approval of Congress – probably legislation to bring guns (and/or safety mechanisms) under the Consumer Product Safety Act

The issue needs a good public airing well before that. Especially since ‘Anonymous’ put out a video inciting Americans to fight their government:

"American people have decided to openly declare war on the United States government. This is a call to arms. We call upon the Citizens of the United States to stand beside us in overthrowing this corrupted body and call upon a new era." (quoting Anonymous)

Rising up with guns is a surefire way to convince Congress to legislate the manufacture of ‘safe’ guns. A color revolution for the smart world order, for which the table has already been laid.

MUCH MORE AT [link to www.activistpost.com]
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog



this reminds me of the company at Shot Show 2013 that had a rile with an airforce grade trigger-sight mechanism that after you lock on to your target, it will not let the trigger fire until you are locked on it again. The device also has blue tooth and wifi, audio, and video recording, and can transmit. In other words, someone can watch what you are doing remotely with your rifle and then remotely lock it.
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Another black market, mafia, gang related business. Hack the info and sell it.

Then you have the wiz kids who can hack any database that has all this info and you'll get a letter in the mail that your gun info is at risk, like they do for your credit cards and they'll have to disable it and you'll get a new chip in 2 to 3 weeks, you know, right after the time most people will need them.
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I see it now, instead of jail broke smart phones, we'll get jail broke smart guns selling like hotcakes.
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Never going to happen.

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