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Destroying The U.S. Military From Within

 
Chrit

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01/24/2013 05:08 PM

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The issue is larger than just this but someone brought it up without proper information.

Snip; It’s time to debunk the myth, once and for all, that Israel’s experience with allowing women in combat was successful and, therefore, should be duplicated by the Pentagon. It wasn’t successful. It was a disaster by Israel’s own admission.

History shows that the presence of women has had a devastating impact on the effectiveness of men in battle,” wrote John Luddy in July 27, 1994, for the Heritage Foundation backgrounder.

For example, it is a common misperception that Israel allows women in combat units. In fact, women have been barred from combat in Israel since 1950, when a review of the 1948 Arab-Israeli War showed how harmful their presence could be. The study revealed that men tried to protect and assist women rather than continue their attack. As a result, they not only put their own lives in greater danger, but also jeopardized the survival of the entire unit. The study further revealed that unit morale was damaged when men saw women killed and maimed on the battlefield,” Luddy said.

Writes Edward Norton, a reservist in the Israel Defense Forces: “Women have always played an important role in the Israeli military, but they rarely see combat; if they do, it is usually by accident. No one in Israel, including feminists, has any objection to this situation. The fact that the Persian Gulf War has produced calls to allow women on the front lines proves only how atypical that war was and how little Americans really understand combat.”

“Few serious armies use women in combat roles. Israel, which drafts most of its young women and uses them in all kinds of military work, has learned from experience to take them out of combat zones. Tests show that few women have the upper-body strength required for combat tasks.

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“Few serious armies use women in combat roles. Israel, which drafts most of its young women and uses them in all kinds of military work, has learned from experience to take them out of combat zones. Tests show that few women have the upper-body strength required for combat tasks."

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nonsense. those who pass the tests and make it through
the training are doing just fine in combat.

and, there's plenty of weakling men who can't make it
through combat infantry training and wash out, and are
sent home to their mommies.

Last Edited by jackie smith on 01/24/2013 05:13 PM
Suzy Creamcheese

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01/24/2013 05:23 PM
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Biden on self-defense: ‘Get yourself a shotgun’

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01/24/2013 05:27 PM
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Combat guys just white trash, blacks, n mexicans anyway
Chrit

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01/24/2013 05:27 PM

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Going to cut up this bill. HR 2168

Congress messing with the military never goes well. NEVER


SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘Military Leaders Enhancement Act’.


Snip; Diversity as a National Security Issue- It is the sense of Congress that--

(1) diversity is a national security issue and a force multiplier for the Armed Forces and the United States;


(2) diversity within the Armed Forces is vitally important, not only with respect to promoting innovation and creativity, but also with respect to developing a more inclusive workforce for a fair and just America; When the goal is to kill the other guy as fast as possible and the enemy has the same goal nothing is fair. It is not a work force as Congress lables them.



(3) diversity is a necessity to mission readiness and excellence; What?

Snip; ‘(5) The available pool of qualified candidates for the general officer grades of general and lieutenant general and the flag officer grades of admiral and vice admiral, including an assessment of the qualified racial or ethnic minority and female candidates.’. "Qualified" and "best person for a job" are two way different things.


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Chrit

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01/24/2013 05:29 PM

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“Few serious armies use women in combat roles. Israel, which drafts most of its young women and uses them in all kinds of military work, has learned from experience to take them out of combat zones. Tests show that few women have the upper-body strength required for combat tasks."

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nonsense. those who pass the tests and make it through
the training are doing just fine in combat.

and, there's plenty of weakling men who can't make it
through combat infantry training and wash out, and are
sent home to their mommies.
 Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese


You cannot wash out of Israeli defense forces, and that’s what that report was written about.
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“Few serious armies use women in combat roles. Israel, which drafts most of its young women and uses them in all kinds of military work, has learned from experience to take them out of combat zones. Tests show that few women have the upper-body strength required for combat tasks."

Read more at [link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: Chrit


nonsense. those who pass the tests and make it through
the training are doing just fine in combat.

and, there's plenty of weakling men who can't make it
through combat infantry training and wash out, and are
sent home to their mommies.
 Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese


You cannot wash out of Israeli defense forces, and that’s what that report was written about.
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o.k., then they're sent to cook's school.
Chrit

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01/24/2013 05:39 PM

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o.k., then they're sent to cook's school.
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Here they saw their first combat 4 months ago.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


But you are still missing the point this is not the military this is congress messing with the military for political reasons only, it will get people killed, sons and daughters alike.

When congress passes legislation saying “diversity is a necessity to mission readiness and excellence” they are nuts and that is the real issue here.
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o.k., then they're sent to cook's school.
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Here they saw their first combat 4 months ago.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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yes. it's was the first official integrating of girls into an Infantry unit (they had a skirmish on the Sinai)

anyway. women in combat are here to stay.

Last Edited by jackie smith on 01/24/2013 05:49 PM
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o.k., then they're sent to cook's school.
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Here they saw their first combat 4 months ago.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

 Quoting: Chrit


yes. it's was the first official integrating of girls into an Infantry unit (they had a skirmish on the Sinai)

 Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese


maybe they just announced it that way because it's
the first time the actually got video of a girl soldier killing a bad guy?
Chrit

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maybe they just announced it that way because it's
the first time the actually got video of a girl soldier killing a bad guy?
 Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese


I don't think you get what this means, It's a logistical change. Women already serve in 93% of military applications, what congress wants is dead female soldiers on the TV for political reasons! What is saying is we need quotas on diversity numbers when we do not period. When you forcible promote a person for the brass so your number look good on paper you are making a mistake period.

How many people in your job got a promotion they did not deserve and suck at their job?

The difference is this gets people killed.



Women already fight on the front lines but that is different than a combat deployment. Example these lady’s in the video below, but it is still way different then a combat unit.

BTW you will now have to incorporate a female draft in case of emergency. It’s in the works, it’s only “fair” after all. No washing out of the draft either but our children forget that, it has been so long.



Read this, she lays out of very well as a vet. [link to www.channel4.com]


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Last Edited by Chrit on 01/24/2013 09:34 PM
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We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three.