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Why is ANYONE using Windows STILL?
In another thread, someone mentioned a website that was listed by an anti-virus company as being a possible malware site.

I understand that most people are cost conscious and purchase PC's for various reasons. However, given Windows LONG history of being a virus magnet and extremely shitty reliability, WTF?

Is it too hard for most people to shitcan MS and simply install a different OS?

I can see needing to run it for "special" software, but for the love of all things holy, you CAN do almost everything one needs to do WITHOUT Windows. Even better, most are FREE and are not affected (yes, exceptions are out there) malware.

Just throwing this out for general discussion. Personally, I've bought many PC's and laptops that came with Windows... primarily because it's hard to buy one that doesn't come with it installed.

Why not just install another OS (Linux) and be done with it. What you'll end up with is a PC that actually does what it's supposed to.

What gives? Too hard to deal with? Love of Windows runneth too deeply?

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software/games etc
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software/games etc
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Yeah, gaming is definitely a good reason.

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Re: Why is ANYONE using Windows STILL?
uh is Linx still a bitch to install?
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Why not just install another OS (Linux) and be done with it.
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Because everything sucks. Switching to a different flavor of shit isn't an improvement.
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Re: Why is ANYONE using Windows STILL?
uh is Linx still a bitch to install?
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That used to be the case. However, Ubuntu and others have made HUGE strides in this regard. As easy, if not easier to install than Windows. Just point and click.

There are many options now.

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Been on linux only since 2008. Roughly a month after buying a computer with vista installed.
Windows has nothing on linux in any possible category.
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Re: Why is ANYONE using Windows STILL?
In another thread, someone mentioned a website that was listed by an anti-virus company as being a possible malware site.

I understand that most people are cost conscious and purchase PC's for various reasons. However, given Windows LONG history of being a virus magnet and extremely shitty reliability, WTF?

Is it too hard for most people to shitcan MS and simply install a different OS?

I can see needing to run it for "special" software, but for the love of all things holy, you CAN do almost everything one needs to do WITHOUT Windows. Even better, most are FREE and are not affected (yes, exceptions are out there) malware.

Just throwing this out for general discussion. Personally, I've bought many PC's and laptops that came with Windows... primarily because it's hard to buy one that doesn't come with it installed.

Why not just install another OS (Linux) and be done with it. What you'll end up with is a PC that actually does what it's supposed to.

What gives? Too hard to deal with? Love of Windows runneth too deeply?

Peace.
 Quoting: AwakenedDude


While Windows is not perfect it is the best of all operating systems for the avreage computer.

Apple products suck, they have just had better marketing. BUT their share price is tanking because of said crap that they sell.

Before you say Linux, it is the worse of the bunch. The average computer user can't use it and the amount of quality software is miniscule in comparison.
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While Windows is not perfect it is the best of all operating systems for the average computer user.

Apple products suck, they have just had better marketing. BUT their share price is tanking because of said crap that they sell.

Before you say Linux, it is the worse of the bunch. The average computer user can't use it and the amount of quality software is miniscule in comparison.
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Why not just install another OS (Linux) and be done with it.
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Because everything sucks. Switching to a different flavor of shit isn't an improvement.
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Well, that would depend on your perspective. And I'm guessing your perspective is "Everything Sucks".

However, an alternative perspective would be that a FREE operating system that actually doesn't BSOD, has incredible community support, and is immune to 99% of all the malware (out of the box) is a pretty big incentive. And the icing on the cake:

PERFORMANCE/SPEED

Peace.
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Re: Why is ANYONE using Windows STILL?
While Windows is not perfect it is the best of all operating systems for the average computer user.

Apple products suck, they have just had better marketing. BUT their share price is tanking because of said crap that they sell.

Before you say Linux, it is the worse of the bunch. The average computer user can't use it and the amount of quality software is miniscule in comparison.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32724170


You have clearly not used or even looked at linux in the last five years
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Been on linux only since 2008. Roughly a month after buying a computer with vista installed.
Windows has nothing on linux in any possible category.
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Couldn't agree more.
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Re: Why is ANYONE using Windows STILL?
need photoshop, illustrator etc...
need outlook...

the rest I can do without.

Can you run these on a 'virtual machine' in linux or similar?
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You DO realize that people who have made malware that support mac/pc/linux right?

And i use it for games , many games i play the makes will never support linux or even mac at this point in time i need windows.

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Re: Why is ANYONE using Windows STILL?
In another thread, someone mentioned a website that was listed by an anti-virus company as being a possible malware site.

I understand that most people are cost conscious and purchase PC's for various reasons. However, given Windows LONG history of being a virus magnet and extremely shitty reliability, WTF?

Is it too hard for most people to shitcan MS and simply install a different OS?

I can see needing to run it for "special" software, but for the love of all things holy, you CAN do almost everything one needs to do WITHOUT Windows. Even better, most are FREE and are not affected (yes, exceptions are out there) malware.

Just throwing this out for general discussion. Personally, I've bought many PC's and laptops that came with Windows... primarily because it's hard to buy one that doesn't come with it installed.

Why not just install another OS (Linux) and be done with it. What you'll end up with is a PC that actually does what it's supposed to.

What gives? Too hard to deal with? Love of Windows runneth too deeply?

Peace.
 Quoting: AwakenedDude


While Windows is not perfect it is the best of all operating systems for the avreage computer.

Apple products suck, they have just had better marketing. BUT their share price is tanking because of said crap that they sell.

Before you say Linux, it is the worse of the bunch. The average computer user can't use it and the amount of quality software is miniscule in comparison.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32724170


That's a bold statement dude.

Did you know that Tivo, DirectTV, Roku, and MOST routers/wifi use Linux? Hell, even Android phones and tablets run Linux.

Want to know why? Stability. Security. Reliability. Cost.


Just sayin'.
Peace.
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Re: Why is ANYONE using Windows STILL?
need photoshop, illustrator etc...
need outlook...

the rest I can do without.

Can you run these on a 'virtual machine' in linux or similar?
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yup

outlook will run through wine.
Haven't used ps since I realized I liked gimp better.
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Re: Why is ANYONE using Windows STILL?
need photoshop, illustrator etc...
need outlook...

the rest I can do without.

Can you run these on a 'virtual machine' in linux or similar?
 Quoting: BuggedOut


Absolutely. In fact, Oracle has a program (free) called VirtualBox that will let you run another OS (like windows) along side.

Fire it up, run your apps, and then shut it down.

On another note, have you looked into Gimp and other associated alternatives to the Adobe cabal? There's a steep learning curve to them, but well worth it if you wish to be free.

Peace.
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Re: Why is ANYONE using Windows STILL?
Windows for me is by far the best. And if people have common sense then they can avoid virus. If not they should instal Microsoft Security Essential, Microsoft's free anti virus. Here's the link.

[link to windows.microsoft.com]
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Guessing the 1 star bandits are MS shills? Or MS fanboyz?

Stockholm syndrome?
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Used windows forever haven't gotten one virus

Good thread

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Windows for me is by far the best. And if people have common sense then they can avoid virus. If not they should instal Microsoft Security Essential, Microsoft's free anti virus. Here's the link.

[link to windows.microsoft.com]
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AC, please be careful.


Microsoft Security Essentials Fails Antivirus Certification Test For Second Time In A Row


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Re: Why is ANYONE using Windows STILL?
need photoshop, illustrator etc...
need outlook...

the rest I can do without.

Can you run these on a 'virtual machine' in linux or similar?
 Quoting: BuggedOut


yup

outlook will run through wine.
Haven't used ps since I realized I liked gimp better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19712778


Thank you!! I'll give it a whirl the next time my Windoze is due for a reformat (at least once a year).
Ive got to use adobe - it's second nature to me and most graphics guys.
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Re: Why is ANYONE using Windows STILL?
In another thread, someone mentioned a website that was listed by an anti-virus company as being a possible malware site.

I understand that most people are cost conscious and purchase PC's for various reasons. However, given Windows LONG history of being a virus magnet and extremely shitty reliability, WTF?

Is it too hard for most people to shitcan MS and simply install a different OS?

I can see needing to run it for "special" software, but for the love of all things holy, you CAN do almost everything one needs to do WITHOUT Windows. Even better, most are FREE and are not affected (yes, exceptions are out there) malware.

Just throwing this out for general discussion. Personally, I've bought many PC's and laptops that came with Windows... primarily because it's hard to buy one that doesn't come with it installed.

Why not just install another OS (Linux) and be done with it. What you'll end up with is a PC that actually does what it's supposed to.

What gives? Too hard to deal with? Love of Windows runneth too deeply?

Peace.
 Quoting: AwakenedDude


The Windows family of OS have a 92% market share for desktop OS. With that kind of market share, software developers and hardware manufacturer are going to develop for it.

Games, hardware, software, basically everything is developed for Windows, and then Mac in a second place.

So I think for most people, it's not even in their thought process. Windows works, it's familiar, and there is software available for it.

I've used just about every OS there has been, with multiple laptops and dual boots, but I have found it is limiting not having Windows around.

Yes, you CAN make due, with let's say Ubuntu, but there are going to be things that it sucks at or the free software you mention is total crap.

HTML 5 was supposed to be the savior for native application development, but it's not taking off where some had predicted. People LIKE native applications, and trying to run an application under essentially a browser or browser component on any platform, although a great concept (Java anyone?) it's not adopting as fast as some might have expected.

Not sure what to think about Microsoft anymore--they excel in server OS, development/.NET, server applications (SharePoint, SQL Server, Project, Exchange), but with Windows 8, they are back in the world of a Vista fiasco, and in the light speed changes and incredible openness and talent that exists, others will not hesitate to step in at the right moment with new innovation.
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I upgraded some years ago to 3.3. Works great .
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you only get virus/malware from installing software from unverified sources in windows. Just make sure you have UAC (which is the equivalent of SUDO in linux.) on and only install from reputable sources.
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[link to www.sabayon.org]
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[link to linuxmint.com]
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[link to www.ubuntu.com]
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[link to ultimateedition.info]
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[link to www.elivecd.org]
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I use both, Windows/Linux.
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In another thread, someone mentioned a website that was listed by an anti-virus company as being a possible malware site.

I understand that most people are cost conscious and purchase PC's for various reasons. However, given Windows LONG history of being a virus magnet and extremely shitty reliability, WTF?

Is it too hard for most people to shitcan MS and simply install a different OS?

I can see needing to run it for "special" software, but for the love of all things holy, you CAN do almost everything one needs to do WITHOUT Windows. Even better, most are FREE and are not affected (yes, exceptions are out there) malware.

Just throwing this out for general discussion. Personally, I've bought many PC's and laptops that came with Windows... primarily because it's hard to buy one that doesn't come with it installed.

Why not just install another OS (Linux) and be done with it. What you'll end up with is a PC that actually does what it's supposed to.

What gives? Too hard to deal with? Love of Windows runneth too deeply?

Peace.
 Quoting: AwakenedDude


I have been looking to get into Linux.

I have a small netbook, a Lenovo laptop with a piddly Intel Atom processor. Slow as blazes and runs Windows XP SP3.

This slow little ladybug of a computer, would it be suitable for putting Linux on? Would it make the machine usable and worthwhile again? I never use it anymore.
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Why not just install another OS (Linux) and be done with it.
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Because everything sucks. Switching to a different flavor of shit isn't an improvement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31801898


Well, that would depend on your perspective. And I'm guessing your perspective is "Everything Sucks".

However, an alternative perspective would be that a FREE operating system that actually doesn't BSOD, has incredible community support, and is immune to 99% of all the malware (out of the box) is a pretty big incentive. And the icing on the cake:

PERFORMANCE/SPEED

Peace.
 Quoting: AwakenedDude


When you say performance and speed... what are you using that for?
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In another thread, someone mentioned a website that was listed by an anti-virus company as being a possible malware site.

I understand that most people are cost conscious and purchase PC's for various reasons. However, given Windows LONG history of being a virus magnet and extremely shitty reliability, WTF?

Is it too hard for most people to shitcan MS and simply install a different OS?

I can see needing to run it for "special" software, but for the love of all things holy, you CAN do almost everything one needs to do WITHOUT Windows. Even better, most are FREE and are not affected (yes, exceptions are out there) malware.

Just throwing this out for general discussion. Personally, I've bought many PC's and laptops that came with Windows... primarily because it's hard to buy one that doesn't come with it installed.

Why not just install another OS (Linux) and be done with it. What you'll end up with is a PC that actually does what it's supposed to.

What gives? Too hard to deal with? Love of Windows runneth too deeply?

Peace.
 Quoting: AwakenedDude


I have been looking to get into Linux.

I have a small netbook, a Lenovo laptop with a piddly Intel Atom processor. Slow as blazes and runs Windows XP SP3.

This slow little ladybug of a computer, would it be suitable for putting Linux on? Would it make the machine usable and worthwhile again? I never use it anymore.
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Yes, try Lubuntu.
It works fine on my netbook.

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