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I live in in Newtown, CT

 
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I am 200mtr from a main rd and always hear emergency cars etc even from the other side of town, why didn't op hear any sirens seen as he said he was that close to it all. why did op say he didn't know what was going on until he was watching tv at the corner store when most shops close to any thing like this ect know everything with all sorts of ppl walking in telling their own story of what is going on cos shop owned don't leave the shop and they get their news from walkins. Someone that is on this site and yet talks about what he is doing that night with mates and not have a camera out.. right..

more like he was having fruitloops.

Sure if you live in the area and the road is blocked off yes they don't allow cars or traffic but as for ppl yeah they do, why whos to say you don't care for a sick person and who needs you,or just gone to the docs for your childs medicine so as for getting home yeah that bit also I don't believe.
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Obviously, they would have kept quit until it went live, discretely staging everything into place so they could have complete control once it started to unfold.
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Has anyone seen this NBCNews twitter pic?
It is timestamped 8:36AM with a full firehouse of parents children and responders...
The only problem is the 911 call and the shooter wasn't reported until 9:40AM.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Someone in the cast seemed to have jumped the gun and Twittered earlier than instructed.
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I've heard time zone theories to explain that, but I'm in the Eastern zone...same as CT.

There's another reporter's twitter photo that shows traffic backed up due to road closures approaching the Lanza house at ~9:36am...I was also told it was a time zone issue.
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You actually have to log in, and set your time zone to get the accurate time for things on Twitter. You'll see that the 9:36 shows as 12:36, at least if you're in the Eastern time zone. If I don't log in to Twitter, and look at that news reporter's twitter photo, it shows 9:36.
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
I will post no proof that I actually do live here. I'm sure some have clicked away immediately at that confession and I do not blame them. You may or may not believe in what I am about to say and that is your choice.

I live in Newtown. I live about 1 mile from Sandy Hook Elementary on Riverside Road. I didn't go to work on Friday Dec 14th. I called in sick but I was playing hooky. I work at a restaurant in Danbury. I've spent the past 2 hours debating with myself if I should post this. I could have posted it somewhere else but this site seems to always pop up when the Sandy Hook "shooting" is concerned. I figured this was the most popular spot.

At around 8:50-9:00am I had just finished eating my breakfast. I had Captain Crunch cereal. I had used the last of my milk. I decided to go get some at Caraluzzi's because a friend of mine works there and I wanted to see what he was up to that evening. I get in my car at about 9:05am. I drive West on Riverside Road. Before I even got to the Fire House, I noticed a lot of vehicles parked there. Way, way, way more than usual. A few was parked on both sides of the road. I figured they was just doing some kind of training or a meeting. However one thing did stick out and that was the fact that a lot of the vehicles was solid silver and solid black. I drive past the Fire House and the Senior Center is right next door less than 100 yards. That parking lot was full as well with some of the same vehicles mixed with trucks and what not. Vehicles you would expect to see in a parking lot. Still I thought nothing of it. I go get my milk.

I'm in Caraluzzi's and I've been talking to my friend for a right good while and we hear 2 police cars go by. About 5 minutes later we hear a Helicopter. Dave comes from the back and said, "They must be doing another drill again. Scanner said mass casualty incident involving children". Right then I figured out why all those vehicles was at the Fire House and Senior Center. Because it's not the first time they have done that. They did a similar thing about 1 year ago around this time of year. And they are always doing car accidents that concerns Hazmat or whatever. I told them what I saw. Dave said, "Those cars sound like FBI cars. I guess they would be in on it". So I figure to go so I could catch a peek at what was going on. I get to town and couldn't go down Riverside Road. I told the officer that I live down there. He said, "No through traffic even for residents. Fire and Rescue and Police need to finish doing what they are doing". I said, "What are they doing?". He said, "I would tell you if I knew and I have no clue. The way it sounds they are running a drill but we have been blocked from main traffic. I was just told to do traffic control and make sure no one goes down there".

Then I drive west to Danbury. I don't know why but I just did. I was thinking to myself that that was what I get for playing hooky from work. I had the radio on but not loud enough to hear it. I turn it up thinking maybe I could catch what was going on. The local station mentioned nothing. At about 10:00 they break in from Sammy Hagar's "I Can't Drive 55". The guy said that he was hearing reports of an incident at Sandy Hook Elem and that surrounding schools was on lock down however, "I called my wife because she works at Newtown Middle School and she said they weren't on lock down and haven't heard anything about an incident. So it appears information has been mixed up. We need to get our stuff together before they tell me to report".

I get to Danbury and I go into Global gas station to get a Mt. Dew. They had the tv on and I froze. They was watching coverage of the "shooting". I just watched for 30 minutes frozen. Then I started thinking about all of those cars at the Fire Dept. I didn't know what to think about that. My brain just didn't work after watching the tv.

Fast forward to right this second. I've read the theories and the stories and honestly, those are the only ones that add up. I live here and I do not know what the **** went on. This town is fairly small. I know right many people. I know Eugene Rosen. He is an extremely creepy bastard. I know Scarlett Lewis. But I would like to know where in the hell she got all of that money to "spruce" herself up for interviews. But the Phelps and Parker families that seem to be shoved down our throat, I have no idea in hell who they are. I've asked family and friends and they don't know who they are. I know a Robert Parker, but that sure as hell isn't him in the interviews.

I just do not know what is going on.
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THIS IS KEY
why is sadny hook scvhool not listed as a school in newtown?
Thread: SANDY HOOK SCHOOLnewtown DID IT EXIST?
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Thread: SMOKING GUN NUN CATHOLIC CONNECTION Video blunder Sandy Hook school shooting: (It's actually St. Rose school)

Thread: Sandy-hook: CNN-video of school-storming shows St.Rose-School at 2:56 pm !

Thread: Sandy Hook on scene child WITNESS CLAIMS they SAW RYAN LANZA HANDCUFFED TAKEN OUT OF WOODS
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if adam lanza died on the 13th

he could not have killed his mum
HIS MUM RETURNED FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE
ON THE 13TH OF DECEMBER

WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS FIND OUT ABOUT SANDY HOOK

was Adam Lanza a zombie? Dead 13th yet SUPPOSEDLY Responsible for 14TH DECEMBER 2012 MASSAACRE?

Thread: Adam Lanza's SSDI Death Record States He Died 1 Day Before Sandy Hook Event (Dec 13, 2012)

They made him look like a zombie on purpose in the his picture?
Thread: Why do the media keep using an obviously altered picture of Adam Lanza?

then they say he died one day before the supposd massacre at sandy hook school
Thread: Adam Lanza's SSDI Death Record States He Died 1 Day Before Sandy Hook Event (Dec 13, 2012)

A school that is not listed as a school in searches?

Thread: SANDY HOOK SCHOOLnewtown DID IT EXIST?
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st rose SCHOOL was on lockdown according to its preistLEADER
WIESS
FROM THAT MORNING UNTIL PAST 2PM WHEN POLICE RAIDED IT

WHY DID THEY RAID ST ROSE SCHOOL?

Thread: Sandy-hook: CNN-video of school-storming shows St.Rose-School at 2:56 pm !
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At around 8:50-9:00am I had just finished eating my breakfast. I had Captain Crunch cereal. I had used the last of my milk. I decided to go get some at Caraluzzi's because a friend of mine works there and I wanted to see what he was up to that evening. I get in my car at about 9:05am. I drive West on Riverside Road. Before I even got to the Fire House, I noticed a lot of vehicles parked there. Way, way, way more than usual.

SO THEY WERE ALL PREPARED AT EVEN 9.10 AM APPROX?

EVEN BEFORE THE FIRST POLICE WERE MEANT TO HAVE RECEVED ANY FIRST EMERGENCY CALLS?

WHICH ON THE POLICE AUDO ARE ABOUT 9.30 AM
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the nuns in the pueple van were meant to be Heading to
Danbury
its a main town
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
Those of you who believed the OP should work on your discernment.

Normally I would not mess with someone's fictional storytelling like this, but the OP crossed a line by pretending to be an eyewitness to one of the most heinous crimes in US history, when in fact he was not.



LOL, this thread OP is total bullshit.
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Holden, Normally I'd let a troll like you go but your claims are completely off the wall. The OP (whether he is telling the truth or not) never says he was an eyewitness to any crime, for goodness' sakes. He claims to have seen some cars, encountered some traffic, heard some speculation and some stuff on the radio. That is NOT being an "eyewitness" to a crime...and he never makes that claim or "crosses that line". You, on the other hand ARE making false claims.
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
You actually have to log in, and set your time zone to get the accurate time for things on Twitter. You'll see that the 9:36 shows as 12:36, at least if you're in the Eastern time zone. If I don't log in to Twitter, and look at that news reporter's twitter photo, it shows 9:36.
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Ahhhhh, thank you for the explanation. Since I don't have a twitter account, I'd certainly have no reason to log in!
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8 kids on the list are said to have been members of St Rose of Lima Church.
But, didn't go to school there?

Caroline Previdi
Grace McDonnell
Catherine Hubbard
James Mattioli
Olivia Engel
Jessica Rekos
Josephine Gay
Daniel Barden

Strange.
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Too good to miss!bump
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8 kids on the list are said to have been members of St Rose of Lima Church.
But, didn't go to school there?


Strange.
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Not strange at all. The church I went to as a kid was also a school, but I did not go to school there, and this was the norm for the catholic kids in the neighborhood.
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Had you noticed a increased number of chinses visitors there Lately?

there is seeming mandarin chinses being speken by police in one of the vides

this links to st rose school
agani
they have had chinese teachers over and they have sent their own teachers to china

its part of their programme to get their kids learning mandarin chinese

so you have st rose linked up with that anomaly on the video of the police also.


Thread: SANDY HOOK close up CLEAR HD OF THE NUN outfits

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A FOREIGN LANGUAGE HEARD BEING SPOKEN IN SANDY HOOK

Listen carefully @3:10. The military/police aren’t speaking English.

[link to sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com]


Sure ENOUGH. Sounds Slavic.


More Japanese or chinese if you ask me


Technology Connects China and St. Rose of Lima Pre-School
News-Times Article May 24, 2012

But soon that is expected to change.

The Diocese of Bridgeport has a Chinese project under way that includes introducing the teaching of Mandarin Chinese in its 38 schools.

A contingent of principals and diocesan leaders visited China in February, including the school they visited via Skype on Thursday, Yu Niao Kin in Hangzhou, China.


Author Helen Yi Chen, the diocese's consultant on the project and an immigrant from China, brought Dames, St. Rose Principal Mary Maloney, Immaculate High School President Kathleen Casey and St. Gregory the Great Principal Sister Mary John O'Rourke and a couple of other diocesan educators on a seven-day expedition to visit some public and private schools in China.

Chen said it has been a wonderful partnership, because they all share a passion for education.

The project also includes teachers from China visiting the diocese in the summer to see its math and technology program and to have the diocesan students visit an international camp in China in high school.

[link to www.stroseschool.com]


ANOTHER SMOKING GUN

THE VOICE IS DEF CHINESE OR JAP
NOW WE HAVE ST ROSE SCHOOL
andy-hook: CNN-video of school-storming shows St.Rose-School at 2:56 pm !
CAVORTING WITH THE CHINESE IN ALNAGUAGE PROGRAM AND EVEN VISTING CHINA AND WE HAVE CHINESE TEACHERS IN NEWTON THIS VERY YEAR!

AND WE HAVE GUNMAN WAS A PREIST AND NUNS ON THE RUN
AND NUN ROBES BY THE BLACK CAR

I ASK
WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED?
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8 kids on the list are said to have been members of St Rose of Lima Church.
But, didn't go to school there?


Strange.
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Not strange at all. The church I went to as a kid was also a school, but I did not go to school there, and this was the norm for the catholic kids in the neighborhood.
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bULLSHIT

ST ROSE OF LIMA CHURCH

IS THE LOCAL CATHOLIC CHURCH
MANY OF THE VICTIMS FAMILIES ARE CATHOLIC

THE CHURCH IS NOT JOINED ONTO SANDY HOOK ELEM

ST ROSE OF LIMA SCHOOL IS A PRIVATE CATHOLIC SCHOOL
IN NEWTOWN IT WAS RAIDED BY POLICE
AFTER BEING DESERTED BY THE PRIEST AND TEACHERS WHO RUN IT
THE KIDS THERE WERE ABONONED FOR HOURS

WHILE THE PRESIST AND HIS TEACHER NUNS AND CLERGY
WENT TO SANDY HOOK

THE GUNMAN WAS REPORTEDLY DRESSED AS A PREIST
AND SO WAS LET INTO THE SANDY HOOK SCHOOL
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
bULLSHIT

ST ROSE OF LIMA CHURCH

IS THE LOCAL CATHOLIC CHURCH
MANY OF THE VICTIMS FAMILIES ARE CATHOLIC

THE CHURCH IS NOT JOINED ONTO SANDY HOOK ELEM

ST ROSE OF LIMA SCHOOL IS A PRIVATE CATHOLIC SCHOOL
IN NEWTOWN IT WAS RAIDED BY POLICE
AFTER BEING DESERTED BY THE PRIEST AND TEACHERS WHO RUN IT
THE KIDS THERE WERE ABONONED FOR HOURS

WHILE THE PRESIST AND HIS TEACHER NUNS AND CLERGY
WENT TO SANDY HOOK

THE GUNMAN WAS REPORTEDLY DRESSED AS A PREIST
AND SO WAS LET INTO THE SANDY HOOK SCHOOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31469306


First, why are you shouting?

Second, your call of 'bullshit' is bullshit. Lots of catholic kids go to public schools, even when there is a catholic school nearby. Just because there are catholic kids/families in Sandy Hook, it is NOT a logical conclusion that they therefore must be students at that catholic school.

All the stuff about priests and nuns and people dressed up as priests and nuns is IRRELEVANT to whether or not the kids were students at the catholic school at St Rose. They are completed unrelated things; there is no corollary or causal relationship between them.
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the nuns in the pueple van were meant to be Heading to
Danbury
its a main town
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there is also a grotto up the road, off 25 into Brookfield, past the intersection with Obtuse

I used to stop there sometimes, because it was very scenic

[link to www.flickr.com]

there is a catholic organization which built the grotto, it looks like a copy of lourdes with a big statue of the virgin Mary

sometimes the thought would go through my head: why such a significant grotto here...? Is there something particularly negative someone is trying to counter?

that thought did go through my head once or twice
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8 kids on the list are said to have been members of St Rose of Lima Church.
But, didn't go to school there?


Strange.
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Not strange at all. The church I went to as a kid was also a school, but I did not go to school there, and this was the norm for the catholic kids in the neighborhood.
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bULLSHIT

ST ROSE OF LIMA CHURCH

IS THE LOCAL CATHOLIC CHURCH
MANY OF THE VICTIMS FAMILIES ARE CATHOLIC

THE CHURCH IS NOT JOINED ONTO SANDY HOOK ELEM

ST ROSE OF LIMA SCHOOL IS A PRIVATE CATHOLIC SCHOOL
IN NEWTOWN IT WAS RAIDED BY POLICE
AFTER BEING DESERTED BY THE PRIEST AND TEACHERS WHO RUN IT
THE KIDS THERE WERE ABONONED FOR HOURS

WHILE THE PRESIST AND HIS TEACHER NUNS AND CLERGY
WENT TO SANDY HOOK

THE GUNMAN WAS REPORTEDLY DRESSED AS A PREIST
AND SO WAS LET INTO THE SANDY HOOK SCHOOL
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It was a drill.
There was no shooter let in because he was dressed as a priest or a nun or a devil costume.
Now pipe down with all your yelling disinfo in a crowded room.

Thank you.
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
Those of you who believed the OP should work on your discernment.

Normally I would not mess with someone's fictional storytelling like this, but the OP crossed a line by pretending to be an eyewitness to one of the most heinous crimes in US history, when in fact he was not.



LOL, this thread OP is total bullshit.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious

 Quoting: Holden 32744103


Holden, Normally I'd let a troll like you go but your claims are completely off the wall. The OP (whether he is telling the truth or not) never says he was an eyewitness to any crime, for goodness' sakes. He claims to have seen some cars, encountered some traffic, heard some speculation and some stuff on the radio. That is NOT being an "eyewitness" to a crime...and he never makes that claim or "crosses that line". You, on the other hand ARE making false claims.
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Read the thread before posting.

The OP WAS FULL OF SHIT. PERIOD. A moderator even confirmed it for you, in the post quoted (Mister Obvious).

I thought that would be enough. For most people it would be; but for an idiot - I guess not. Get a clue:
LOL, this thread OP is total bullshit.
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and about dat dere definition of eyewitness, get a clue about that also -
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"A witness is someone who has, who claims to have, or is thought, by someone with authority to compel testimony, to have knowledge relevant to an event or other matter of interest. In law a witness is someone who, either voluntarily or under compulsion, provides testimonial evidence, either oral or written, of what he or she knows or claims to know about the matter before some official authorized to take such testimony."

So, as you see, an eyewitness does not mean solely someone who actually saw the perpetrator commit the crime as you falsely assumed. It is anyone as detailed in the definition above.



The amount of ignorant idiots rambling on about hoaxes and conspiracies about the Sandy Hook shooting is astounding to me. It is sadly ironic that so many people thinking they have 'found the truth' are more lost than anyone else.
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
Those of you who believed the OP should work on your discernment.

Normally I would not mess with someone's fictional storytelling like this, but the OP crossed a line by pretending to be an eyewitness to one of the most heinous crimes in US history, when in fact he was not.



LOL, this thread OP is total bullshit.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious

 Quoting: Holden 32744103


Holden, Normally I'd let a troll like you go but your claims are completely off the wall. The OP (whether he is telling the truth or not) never says he was an eyewitness to any crime, for goodness' sakes. He claims to have seen some cars, encountered some traffic, heard some speculation and some stuff on the radio. That is NOT being an "eyewitness" to a crime...and he never makes that claim or "crosses that line". You, on the other hand ARE making false claims.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31862440

Read the thread before posting.

The OP WAS FULL OF SHIT. PERIOD. A moderator even confirmed it for you, in the post quoted (Mister Obvious).

I thought that would be enough. For most people it would be; but for an idiot - I guess not. Get a clue:
LOL, this thread OP is total bullshit.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious






...
and about dat dere definition of eyewitness, get a clue about that also -
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"A witness is someone who has, who claims to have, or is thought, by someone with authority to compel testimony, to have knowledge relevant to an event or other matter of interest. In law a witness is someone who, either voluntarily or under compulsion, provides testimonial evidence, either oral or written, of what he or she knows or claims to know about the matter before some official authorized to take such testimony."

So, as you see, an eyewitness does not mean solely someone who actually saw the perpetrator commit the crime as you falsely assumed. It is anyone as detailed in the definition above.



The amount of ignorant idiots rambling on about hoaxes and conspiracies about the Sandy Hook shooting is astounding to me. It is sadly ironic that so many people thinking they have 'found the truth' are more lost than anyone else.
 Quoting: Holden 32744103


The number of "ignorant idiots" who truly believe it'd be more practical to wheel people on stretchers up and down this road, rather than park ambulances right outside or very close to the school, is astounding to me.

The number of "ignorant idiots" who believe this is the scene of a legitimate mass shooting is also astounding to me.

All this boils down to is common sense. If this meets anyone's standard, you clearly don't have any.

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How exactly did a moderator "confirm" anything? Whatever a mod says is fact? Please. People are free to form their own opinions and decide whether or not they believe what is posted. You or anyone else, unless presenting something factual, can't "confirm" anything. Why on earth would you be on a site like this if you just automatically believe something because someone says it's true or not?

Last Edited by Zuzu's Petals on 01/26/2013 12:35 PM
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
Those of you who believed the OP should work on your discernment.

Normally I would not mess with someone's fictional storytelling like this, but the OP crossed a line by pretending to be an eyewitness to one of the most heinous crimes in US history, when in fact he was not.



...

 Quoting: Holden 32744103


Holden, Normally I'd let a troll like you go but your claims are completely off the wall. The OP (whether he is telling the truth or not) never says he was an eyewitness to any crime, for goodness' sakes. He claims to have seen some cars, encountered some traffic, heard some speculation and some stuff on the radio. That is NOT being an "eyewitness" to a crime...and he never makes that claim or "crosses that line". You, on the other hand ARE making false claims.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31862440

Read the thread before posting.

The OP WAS FULL OF SHIT. PERIOD. A moderator even confirmed it for you, in the post quoted (Mister Obvious).

I thought that would be enough. For most people it would be; but for an idiot - I guess not. Get a clue:
LOL, this thread OP is total bullshit.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious






...
and about dat dere definition of eyewitness, get a clue about that also -
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"A witness is someone who has, who claims to have, or is thought, by someone with authority to compel testimony, to have knowledge relevant to an event or other matter of interest. In law a witness is someone who, either voluntarily or under compulsion, provides testimonial evidence, either oral or written, of what he or she knows or claims to know about the matter before some official authorized to take such testimony."

So, as you see, an eyewitness does not mean solely someone who actually saw the perpetrator commit the crime as you falsely assumed. It is anyone as detailed in the definition above.



The amount of ignorant idiots rambling on about hoaxes and conspiracies about the Sandy Hook shooting is astounding to me. It is sadly ironic that so many people thinking they have 'found the truth' are more lost than anyone else.
 Quoting: Holden 32744103


The number of "ignorant idiots" who truly believe it'd be more practical to wheel people on stretchers up and down this road, rather than park ambulances right outside or very close to the school, is astounding to me.

The number of "ignorant idiots" who believe this is the scene of a legitimate mass shooting, is astounding to me also.

All this boils down to is common sense. If this meets anyone's standard, you clearly don't have any.

[link to www.youtube.com]

How exactly did a moderator "confirm" anything? Whatever a mod says is fact? Please. People are free to form their own opinions and decide whether or not they believe what is posted. You or anyone else, unless presenting something factual, can't "confirm" anything.
 Quoting: Zuzu's Petals


Right on, ZP.
If any person does not understand that in a real incident that every single person would have been transported to a hospital while lifesaving measures attempted does not comprehend real life.

You could find a person who was killed in a motorcycle crash.
They'll scrape together whatever remains and fly or drive them to a hospital. They don't just leave them there on the side of the road because they're dead and no point in trying to remove them.

I'd like for a photo of the FEMA portable MORT that is claimed to be in the Parking LOT of Sandy Hook to be posted.
There isn't one. Because there wasn't one.
And that is their last rationale for leaving 27 alleged bodies there at the school.
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I'd like for a photo of the FEMA portable MORT that is claimed to be in the Parking LOT of Sandy Hook to be posted.
There isn't one. Because there wasn't one.
And that is their last rationale for leaving 27 alleged bodies there at the school.
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It was this THING. lmao
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I am 200mtr from a main rd and always hear emergency cars etc even from the other side of town, why didn't op hear any sirens seen as he said he was that close to it all. why did op say he didn't know what was going on until he was watching tv at the corner store when most shops close to any thing like this ect know everything with all sorts of ppl walking in telling their own story of what is going on cos shop owned don't leave the shop and they get their news from walkins. Someone that is on this site and yet talks about what he is doing that night with mates and not have a camera out.. right..

more like he was having fruitloops.

Sure if you live in the area and the road is blocked off yes they don't allow cars or traffic but as for ppl yeah they do, why whos to say you don't care for a sick person and who needs you,or just gone to the docs for your childs medicine so as for getting home yeah that bit also I don't believe.
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In america, a grocery store is not a place with high traffic at 9 in the morning. They are not places where anyone "chats up" the staff unless you are personal friends with them, as this guy was. And most people are sheep and wouldn't think twice about the amount of vehicles or their type parked near the firehouse.

There were no sirens because it wasn't an official 9-11 event until 30 MINUTES LATER.

And where do you get this doing things at night with your mates without a camera crap from. Did you even read the article?
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Right on, ZP.
If any person does not understand that in a real incident that every single person would have been transported to a hospital while lifesaving measures attempted does not comprehend real life.

You could find a person who was killed in a motorcycle crash.
They'll scrape together whatever remains and fly or drive them to a hospital. They don't just leave them there on the side of the road because they're dead and no point in trying to remove them.

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ROFLMAO!!! Absolutely false. Only those with a potential to be saved are taken to an ED. People are routinely declared dead on scene. Are you gonna do CPR on someone whose head is gone from the jaw up? Uh no, idiot. Additionally, with an active crime scene investigation (der hurr such as Sandy Hook), the bodies will not be moved until the crime scene investigators determine them to be moved.

I continue to ask myself, why do I even bother to debate with damn ignorant fools who make such plainly untrue claims?

OMG SMGDMFH
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Holden, Normally I'd let a troll like you go but your claims are completely off the wall. The OP (whether he is telling the truth or not) never says he was an eyewitness to any crime, for goodness' sakes. He claims to have seen some cars, encountered some traffic, heard some speculation and some stuff on the radio. That is NOT being an "eyewitness" to a crime...and he never makes that claim or "crosses that line". You, on the other hand ARE making false claims.
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Read the thread before posting.

The OP WAS FULL OF SHIT. PERIOD. A moderator even confirmed it for you, in the post quoted (Mister Obvious).

I thought that would be enough. For most people it would be; but for an idiot - I guess not. Get a clue:
LOL, this thread OP is total bullshit.
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and about dat dere definition of eyewitness, get a clue about that also -
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"A witness is someone who has, who claims to have, or is thought, by someone with authority to compel testimony, to have knowledge relevant to an event or other matter of interest. In law a witness is someone who, either voluntarily or under compulsion, provides testimonial evidence, either oral or written, of what he or she knows or claims to know about the matter before some official authorized to take such testimony."

So, as you see, an eyewitness does not mean solely someone who actually saw the perpetrator commit the crime as you falsely assumed. It is anyone as detailed in the definition above.



The amount of ignorant idiots rambling on about hoaxes and conspiracies about the Sandy Hook shooting is astounding to me. It is sadly ironic that so many people thinking they have 'found the truth' are more lost than anyone else.
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The number of "ignorant idiots" who truly believe it'd be more practical to wheel people on stretchers up and down this road, rather than park ambulances right outside or very close to the school, is astounding to me.

The number of "ignorant idiots" who believe this is the scene of a legitimate mass shooting, is astounding to me also.

All this boils down to is common sense. If this meets anyone's standard, you clearly don't have any.

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How exactly did a moderator "confirm" anything? Whatever a mod says is fact? Please. People are free to form their own opinions and decide whether or not they believe what is posted. You or anyone else, unless presenting something factual, can't "confirm" anything.
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Right on, ZP.
If any person does not understand that in a real incident that every single person would have been transported to a hospital while lifesaving measures attempted does not comprehend real life.

You could find a person who was killed in a motorcycle crash.
They'll scrape together whatever remains and fly or drive them to a hospital. They don't just leave them there on the side of the road because they're dead and no point in trying to remove them.

I'd like for a photo of the FEMA portable MORT that is claimed to be in the Parking LOT of Sandy Hook to be posted.
There isn't one. Because there wasn't one.
And that is their last rationale for leaving 27 alleged bodies there at the school.
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NO, you don't understand the actual purpose of certain regional DMORTs. They are used to spoliate evidence and cover up crimes.

“On December 14, 2012, Adam Peter Lanza, age 20, fatally shot twenty children and six adult staff members and wounded two at Sandy Hook Elementary School in the Sandy Hook village of Newtown, Connecticut.[6][7] Before driving to the school, he had shot and killed his mother, Nancy Lanza, at their Newtown home.[9][11][12] After killing the students and staff members, Lanza committed suicide by shooting himself in the head as first responders arrived. … Newtown police dispatch first requested officers on the scene at 9:35 a.m.[44] Connecticut State Police received the first call at 9:41 a.m.,[36] and with Newtown police, quickly mobilized local police dog and Police Tactical Units, a bomb squad, and a state police helicopter. …. Police locked down the school and began evacuating the survivors room-by-room, escorting groups of students and adults away from the school. The school was swept for additional shooters at least four times by the police. No shots were fired by the authorities. At approximately 10:00 a.m., Danbury Hospital scrambled extra medical personnel in expectation of having to treat numerous victims. Only three wounded patients were evacuated to the hospital, where two children were later declared dead.[53] The other was an unidentified adult.[8] The New York City medical examiner dispatched a [DMORT Region II] portable morgue to assist with the aftermath [and disrupt C2CSI – Luckily AD was monitoring all PKI transmissions to HSBC Illinois and Canada Square].”

“Information Resources – Servers [in the DMORT Portable Morgue as used at Sandy Hook to process encrypted images of the faces of children shot with HSBC Illinois’ Fast and Furious Bushmaster rifles]

The Server runs Windows Server 2003, is physically secured, requires AD [Abel Danger] authentication from encrypted authorized clients, is on its own network that is not connected to the internet, any other network or outside world. ALL logs will be reviewed each day. This means:

• Only DPMU computers can be used, and with locked down USB ports
• There will be no email, messaging, or access from outside the network
• No thumb drives can be used, no files can be copied
• The network will be managed by tough IR people with tough policies
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(numbered footnote references have live links and can be found at the link to the entire story given below)

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other relevant links are selected from dozens of investigative reports from the search terms DMORT SANDY HOOK in the search engine on the abeldanger.net site.

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Plum City – (AbelDanger.net). United States Marine Field McConnell has linked Michelle Obama – the alleged intellectual property custodian of partial-birth abortion snuff films, produced at University of Chicago oath ceremonies – to the apparent use of a Sandy Hook DMORT Region II pedophile morgue to disfigure children’s corpses for an anti-Bushmaster rifle Wag the Dog story.

McConnell claims Obama was tasked as an intellectual-property lawyer at Sidley Austin by Bernardine “Torture – Paradigms and Practice” Dohrn, to develop partial-birth snuff film oath ceremonies at the University of Chicago Hospitals and thereby entrap and extort witnesses throughout their professional careers.

[link to www.abeldanger.net]

To see all the investigative reporting, just search the abeldanger site using terms DMORT SANDY HOOK.
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
Those of you who believed the OP should work on your discernment.

Normally I would not mess with someone's fictional storytelling like this, but the OP crossed a line by pretending to be an eyewitness to one of the most heinous crimes in US history, when in fact he was not.



LOL, this thread OP is total bullshit.
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Holden, Normally I'd let a troll like you go but your claims are completely off the wall. The OP (whether he is telling the truth or not) never says he was an eyewitness to any crime, for goodness' sakes. He claims to have seen some cars, encountered some traffic, heard some speculation and some stuff on the radio. That is NOT being an "eyewitness" to a crime...and he never makes that claim or "crosses that line". You, on the other hand ARE making false claims.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31862440

Read the thread before posting.

The OP WAS FULL OF SHIT. PERIOD. A moderator even confirmed it for you, in the post quoted (Mister Obvious).

I thought that would be enough. For most people it would be; but for an idiot - I guess not. Get a clue:
LOL, this thread OP is total bullshit.
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and about dat dere definition of eyewitness, get a clue about that also -
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"A witness is someone who has, who claims to have, or is thought, by someone with authority to compel testimony, to have knowledge relevant to an event or other matter of interest. In law a witness is someone who, either voluntarily or under compulsion, provides testimonial evidence, either oral or written, of what he or she knows or claims to know about the matter before some official authorized to take such testimony."

So, as you see, an eyewitness does not mean solely someone who actually saw the perpetrator commit the crime as you falsely assumed. It is anyone as detailed in the definition above.



The amount of ignorant idiots rambling on about hoaxes and conspiracies about the Sandy Hook shooting is astounding to me. It is sadly ironic that so many people thinking they have 'found the truth' are more lost than anyone else.
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Me the idiot? No, you are giving the definition for a WITNESS claiming it is actually the same legal definition as an EYEWITNESS. No, you're wrong.

eyewitness n. a person who has actually seen an event and can so testify in court.

The OP never claims to have seen the crime or anything having to do with it, except some traffic. That is NOT an eyewitness.
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
Right on, ZP.
If any person does not understand that in a real incident that every single person would have been transported to a hospital while lifesaving measures attempted does not comprehend real life.

You could find a person who was killed in a motorcycle crash.
They'll scrape together whatever remains and fly or drive them to a hospital. They don't just leave them there on the side of the road because they're dead and no point in trying to remove them.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


ROFLMAO!!! Absolutely false. Only those with a potential to be saved are taken to an ED. People are routinely declared dead on scene. Are you gonna do CPR on someone whose head is gone from the jaw up? Uh no, idiot. Additionally, with an active crime scene investigation (der hurr such as Sandy Hook), the bodies will not be moved until the crime scene investigators determine them to be moved.

I continue to ask myself, why do I even bother to debate with damn ignorant fools who make such plainly untrue claims?

OMG SMGDMFH
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They might be declared dead at the scene. But, they are still transported to a hospital morgue.
Now shill some more.

I have 4 relatives who are nurses and they all say that they would have been, SHOULD have been transported REGARDLESS.
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Right on, ZP.
If any person does not understand that in a real incident that every single person would have been transported to a hospital while lifesaving measures attempted does not comprehend real life.

You could find a person who was killed in a motorcycle crash.
They'll scrape together whatever remains and fly or drive them to a hospital. They don't just leave them there on the side of the road because they're dead and no point in trying to remove them.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


ROFLMAO!!! Absolutely false. Only those with a potential to be saved are taken to an ED. People are routinely declared dead on scene. Are you gonna do CPR on someone whose head is gone from the jaw up? Uh no, idiot. Additionally, with an active crime scene investigation (der hurr such as Sandy Hook), the bodies will not be moved until the crime scene investigators determine them to be moved.

I continue to ask myself, why do I even bother to debate with damn ignorant fools who make such plainly untrue claims?

OMG SMGDMFH
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You can't "debate" which is why you're resorting to the personal attacks, name calling and "OMG SMGDMFH."

Personally, I'm not looking to "debate" anything regarding Sandy Hook. I'd just like answers that mesh with my common sense. There don't seem to be many.

Regarding not moving bodies because it was an active crime scene investigation...They'd have moved them if they were fighting for their lives. I realize you're talking about the deceased, but how are you qualified to state that as fact? By your logic, they wouldn't move the injured until they'd finished getting what they needed - photos, evidence, etc. Again, doesn't make sense.

It makes sense to me that they wouldn't necessarily transport people shot to the head who were clearly dead. But, who pronounced them dead? And who did so that quickly?

You can hear in the audio, someone saying, "How many ambulances are you going to need?" The response is: "We don't know, they're not telling us." What?! Again, why not err on the side of caution, and ask for several? You can't justify this to me. To know so early on that they wouldn't even need ambulances? To park them so far away from the school? To literally wheel stretchers up that road and possibly back to the ambulances? That makes zero sense to me and never will make sense.

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Right on, ZP.
If any person does not understand that in a real incident that every single person would have been transported to a hospital while lifesaving measures attempted does not comprehend real life.

You could find a person who was killed in a motorcycle crash.
They'll scrape together whatever remains and fly or drive them to a hospital. They don't just leave them there on the side of the road because they're dead and no point in trying to remove them.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


ROFLMAO!!! Absolutely false. Only those with a potential to be saved are taken to an ED. People are routinely declared dead on scene. Are you gonna do CPR on someone whose head is gone from the jaw up? Uh no, idiot. Additionally, with an active crime scene investigation (der hurr such as Sandy Hook), the bodies will not be moved until the crime scene investigators determine them to be moved.

I continue to ask myself, why do I even bother to debate with damn ignorant fools who make such plainly untrue claims?

OMG SMGDMFH
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They might be declared dead at the scene. But, they are still transported to a hospital morgue.
Now shill some more.

I have 4 relatives who are nurses and they all say that they would have been, SHOULD have been transported REGARDLESS.
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Not until the crime scene is cleared by law enforcement!

Are you seriously suggesting that EMS just moves on in and picks up the body as they please?

Really?

What youre claiming is beyond comical in its absurdity. You are denying the most basic knowledge!

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