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I live in in Newtown, CT

 
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So you saw all them official vehicles parked in them parking lot's way before the shooting even happened?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano

How else could an armed 'out of jurisdiction' SWAT person been 'in place' at the tree line when local police arrive?
Local PD radio traffic explicitly states, "chasing", "coming towards me", "Lima Echo"... he was 'law enforcement' not recognized by local PD!
These ARE facts.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


What i want to know is why there was a man carrying a gun in a gun free zone and why he was released. Did they confiscate his weapon and charge him for carrying in a gun free zone?

He was not on duty in his jurisdiction. So why is he allowed to have the gun in a gun free zone?
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
Sorry, but I'm a writer. I am highly suspicious of the use of "was" in OP's story. Newton, CT is a small town but a small town filled with middle to upper-middle class folk. Surely they know the difference between "We 'were' doing this and that" and "We 'was' doing this and that".
This is a highly dramatized story.

AND I'm NOT a shill! I just don't want the facts of this story getting muddled with silly BS.
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Sorry NZ, but Newtown was notoriously on the wrong side of the tracks until several years ago when a lot of money starting flowing in.

This guy sounds just like my cousin who lives in Southern Ohio. Countrified and believable.
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
This is the problem... the lack of verification that you live in Newton means can not take this post as definite evidence.

Assuming that you do live in Newton CT and that random guy's Wife works at Sandy Hook... this something that you need to come forward with. People need to know this stuff.

You can't keep this from the public, when the TPTB are using this to try to pass gun legislation and start a civil war! People need to know that the government used this opportunity for their benefit.

Please OP... if you are being genuine... come forward with this information with evidence. You need to do it as fast as possible as your life you could be in danger. If people know you came forward, they can not kill you without drawing huge suspicion.
 Quoting: Dr. Manhattan


Let me tell you guys that I do live here and I know multiple families that were impacted by these murders.

Having said that all the proof you need to know is readily available on the internet for you to put the pieces together.

I believe this was a professional hit and they used Lanza as a Patsy to make another "crazed Lone Gunman" scenario to justify a gun ban even though AR-15s are never used in crimes. Would it be easier to conduct such an attack with one handgun and multiple 16 round magazines ? Of course it would be. That is why they only found 4 hand guns in the school. But since they want to ban the AR-15 they have to include that weapon as part of the attack.

They are desperate to create a motive for Lanza and also avoid at all costs the reality that there were multiple gunmen on an operation in support of a political agenda to ban guns. ( That is my opinion and best guess as to what is going on)

The guy who started this thread knows the correct names of the local stores. I have no reason to think he is lying.

I know there is a lot of weird stuff like why is Robbie Parker and the McDonnells smiling and all that but those are ancillary issues. We have much bigger concerns.

There should be plenty of surveillance video but I will bet we will not see a single frame that conclusively identified Lanza with an AR-15. I may be wrong but I doubt it.

This action did what Fast and Furious failed to do. Before the bodies were cold Feinstein was waving her legislation and the President came to Newtown and raised the political card in the memorial service. While Congressman Nadler suggested to "exploit" the tragedy. The NRA is demonized. Many of us that express our concerns in the forums are attacked for simply raising the questions that should be raised. Why would we not want to know why a SWAT guy just happened to be at the scene with Lanza?


1. Newtown Bee reporter stated that a man "spotted" in the woods was an armed SWAT guy from another town. This is a massive red flag and the MSM media did not report it and
the State Police spokesman gave misleading information on the subject by stating "if we found somebody chopping wood we detained them"? SERIOUSLY WTF- There are also tweets from a local reporter on the scene Jany Libor is his name.

[link to newtownbee.com]




2. State Police issued a press release 1/18/2013 stating that only a shotgun was retrieved from the car. This is a blatant contradiction to the reports all day long that the AR-15 was left in the car and also there is incontrovertible proof that two long guns were retrieved as seen in the helicopter video.

Look at 2:30 on this video

[link to www.youtube.com]


3. These are the best videos I have found

Evidence of Assailants Disguised Dressed as Clergy


[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]


Crime scene with discarded clothes apparently for clergy/Nun disguises


[link to img.gawkerassets.com]

Multiple shooters -Man wearing camo arrested in wooded area - another man seen avoiding capture

[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]


Police Radio Transmission "Take the life of Adam"

[link to www.youtube.com]

I do live here NO BULLSHIT and I have had my nose in the dirt every day trying to find out what I can. But I really do not know much more than you do.

I have on very good source that the story about Lanza being denied a gun at Dick's Sporting Goods in Danbury is complete bullshit. They did not even carry the AR-15 anyway and why would Lanza need one.


I posted on another thread as well, what is so troubling is knowing that high level government personnel are covering for the criminals that did this. We know there were two long guns taken from the car and yet the state police press release said only a shotgun was retrieved?

We know a SWAT guy was caught with Lanza and Lt Vance states something like " oh we may have found some people cutting wood"?

What do you think will happen to anybody who speaks out.

Our hope is that someone from the local PD or some of the State Troopers come forward, or anonymously to the local paper. The main stream media, State Police and Federal are all on board with the official story.
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Excuse me... Jany L I B O R was the guys name?? gasp
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
OP, you should know that-

1) The law enforcement investigation is still ongoing.

2) You could be charged with interfering with a law enforcement investigation.

3) Law enforcement has vowed to charge anyone interfering - including anyone making up false stories on the internet, with a crime.
 Quoting: Holden 32744103


If that was the case then there wouldn't be any mainstream media reporting on their websites. lol

And #3, there is no way that would fly. #2, what I say is in no way, shape or form keeping them from doing their investigation.
 Quoting: Johnson4truth


Again, there have been plenty of fools charged with a crime for being as stupid as your thinking.

If you provide knowingly false information about an ongoing law enforcement investigation, you absolutely most certainly can be charged with a crime.

Theres a difference between what conspiracy theorists do(just interpreting existing info), and what youre doing(providing knowingly false info).

IN FACT - a press conference was given on national TV that anyone engaging in making up false 'evidence' about the Sandy Hook school shooting would be pursued to the fullest extent of the law. Its probably on youtube somewhere. It was posted here when they did that.
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Providing to whom --- each other?? I don't understand this is a forum for people to discuss their thoughts, if we could not do that then what is the point of having a forum? This person did not say they were at the school they only said they live in the town. Sounds like you are very anxious to shut someone up! What exactly is the case I thought the lone gunmen was dead?
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
This is the problem... the lack of verification that you live in Newton means can not take this post as definite evidence.

Assuming that you do live in Newton CT and your Wife works at Sandy Hook... this something that you need to come forward with. People need to know this stuff.

You can't keep this from the public, when the TPTB are using this to try to pass gun legislation and start a civil war! People need to know that the government used this opportunity for their benefit.

Please OP... if you are being genuine... come forward with this information with evidence. You need to do it as fast as possible as your life you could be in danger. If people know you came forward, they can not kill you without drawing huge suspicion.
 Quoting: Dr. Manhattan


I didn't say my wife worked at Sandy Hook. I don't even have a wife and I just broke up with my girlfriend.

Yes, I should post evidence. I may just do that at some point. But right now might not be a great time or it could be a perfect time. I'm just keeping my safety in mind.
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Lazy shills. At least make an attempt to disprove what he's saying. You're flag does nothing but make people giggle.
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
My question in the Sandy Hook HOAX up till now has been the 'out of jurisdiction' SWAT person in the tree line.

How did he get 'in place' even before local PD arrived, and found him.

The OP observation of closed roads and unusual cars indicates a pre-event planning and set-up. Not including the local PD in this almost got that SWAT person shot by the local PD. The SWAT first runs away from police, then confronts them, then ID's himself, all very indicative of someone not intending to be caught.

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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
Many of the verifications anybody can do on their own.

Many of the personnel involved are listed in the white pages.

John Manfredonia lives just a few houses from Lanza and was also at the scene and detained apparently. His phone number and address are in the white pages. So are the Phelps who some people believe are the Sextons in disguise maybe they are maybe they are not but maybe a phone call might resolve that.

All I can tell you is that I know for a fact that Danbury Hospital went on code silver expecting mass casualties and they were shocked when no casualties arrived but a few. I know people with contact with two of the victims that died.

I would not upload any pictures because there are electronic fingerprints all over those.

As I said, there is plenty of evidence at your keyboard on youtube and in articles.

Google " Sandy Hook + Nuns"

I think people need to press for answers on who were the two shadows confronted by police on Crestwood. Who was the SWAT Guy caught? What Happened to the maroon van with the guys in ski masks and a nun outfit. The guys running into the woods on the helicopter video apparently happened after the shed was searched so WTF happened there? The guys (2 shadows) confronted on Crestwood was 9:38 am what happened there?

whether I live here or not does not add much to the real good questions and evidence that is already out there. The wild ass theories that the whole thing is a hoax and nobody died discredits the whole alternative information movement and they get labled as CT nuts. This hoax theory also gives a free pass to the killers which is exactly what the perps want.

There are also many people on the net that are trying to discredit any CT advocate that has a real grasp on what happened and at the same time they try to promote and espouse the whacky CTs in an effort to discredit the whole movement of truth.

I have been here for many years. If somebody wanted to quiz me they could ask what store was where Walmart in Danbury is now? Kohls in Brookfield? What was the controversy about the Newtown Flag Pole? What is the name of the field across from the Police Station? what famous relative of the Kardashians lived in Newtown and on what road?
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My question in the Sandy Hill HOAX up till now has been the 'out of jurisdiction' SWAT person in the tree line.

How did he get 'in place' even before local PD arrived, and found him.

The OP observation of closed roads and unusual cars indicates a pre-event planning and set-up. Not including the local PD in this almost got the SWAT person shot by the local PD. The SWAT first runs away from police, then confronts them, then ID's himself, all very indicative of someone not intending to be caught.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


There was no out of jurisdiction, or even in jurisdiction, SWAT(or any other LE) in the tree line before local PD arrived.
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My question in the Sandy Hill HOAX up till now has been the 'out of jurisdiction' SWAT person in the tree line.

How did he get 'in place' even before local PD arrived, and found him.

The OP observation of closed roads and unusual cars indicates a pre-event planning and set-up. Not including the local PD in this almost got the SWAT person shot by the local PD. The SWAT first runs away from police, then confronts them, then ID's himself, all very indicative of someone not intending to be caught.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


There was no out of jurisdiction, or even in jurisdiction, SWAT(or any other LE) in the tree line before local PD arrived.
 Quoting: Holden 32744103


Archived radio traffic and heli video proves you wrong.
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
OP, you should know that-

1) The law enforcement investigation is still ongoing.

2) You could be charged with interfering with a law enforcement investigation.

3) Law enforcement has vowed to charge anyone interfering - including anyone making up false stories on the internet, with a crime.
 Quoting: Holden 32744103


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Incorrect. Dangerously incorrect.

Crimes that are done here can be charged with an offense, just as anywhere else.

Interferinfering with a criminal investiagtion by posting false information about what you supposedly personally saw during the event is exactly that, if/when it is a lie, that is.

In fact some criminal investigations have started from stuff that happened here, and at least one person is in prison as we speak for it.
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Just quit. Your attitude is the kind fascists love - never questioning authority.

If you never question it, you're gonna get lied to, you're gonna get deceived, and you're gonna get fucked over.

This is the atmosphere that exists in China and it's not going to being tolerated here.
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Right on Bro. Power to the people.

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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
From what I can tell there was at least 4 different (but similar) overlapping events that day.

12/14/12 - Sandy Hook Elementary shooting (unofficial drill)
12/14/12 - St Rosa School raided due to "suspected" shooting (not the bomb threat that came 2 days later)
12/14/12 - DHS/FEMA course on crisis response involving children prior to, during and after a disaster (course)
[link to www.ct.gov]
12/14/14 - Putnam County School Active-Shooter Drill (drill)
[link to southeast.patch.com]

The 4 overlapping events were used to control the official story being told to the public about the primary event (Sandy Hook Elementary). How much of a real event took place at Sandy Hook Elementary is hard to say, but drills and other "supposed" real-world events caused a lot of confusion and event overlap adding flexibility to the official story allowing them to cherry-pick pieces of data from various different events to arrive at a desired final outcome. Various participants from each event (mostly useful idiots) all met at the Sandy Hook Fire House (HIGHLY controlled staging area) to combine the various (similar) stories into 1 seemingly real event which is then attached to Sandy Hook Elementary and presented to the public via the MSM through controlled data "injects".



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So nice to read posts that get to the true point. Thanks!!

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We old timers on GLP have learned that the more important a story is, the harder the shills will work to discredit it. You just need to ignore them and roll on. Let the truth see the light of day. For the patriots and not the treasonous cowards.
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
My question in the Sandy Hill HOAX up till now has been the 'out of jurisdiction' SWAT person in the tree line.

How did he get 'in place' even before local PD arrived, and found him.

The OP observation of closed roads and unusual cars indicates a pre-event planning and set-up. Not including the local PD in this almost got the SWAT person shot by the local PD. The SWAT first runs away from police, then confronts them, then ID's himself, all very indicative of someone not intending to be caught.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


There was no out of jurisdiction, or even in jurisdiction, SWAT(or any other LE) in the tree line before local PD arrived.
 Quoting: Holden 32744103


This is the 10 thousand pound elephant in the room and is what everybody should be asking about but instead everybody complains about Robbie Parker smiling and then jumping to the conclusion that the whole thing is a hoax.

Yes there are intriguing questions about the stolen picture of Allison Wyat and the photoshop paste in of Emilie Parker and all that but in the end what do those get you ?

In the mean time we have hard evidence of radio transmissions and helicopter video and eye witness statements.
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
Anyone in Newtown know Josh Sugarmann?

He is a native of Newtown.



He also founded the Violence Policy Center (VPC) and is known for creating the term 'assault rifle'.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.libertybelles.org]

"The semi-automatic weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons — anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun — can only increase that chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons." — Josh Sugarman, 1988, Violence Policy Center."


So the event used to trigger the attack on the 2nd Amendment using the fear stirred by Josh Sugarmann in 1988 is centered in his own hometown.
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This is the most interesting information in the thread. What a coincidence...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18996623


An article that did capture this fact.

[link to www.countytimes.com]

See his outrage??? -

""Yeah, it's my home town," he said Thursday. "Class of 1978. I grew up there.""
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
This is the problem... the lack of verification that you live in Newton means can not take this post as definite evidence.

Assuming that you do live in Newton CT and that random guy's Wife works at Sandy Hook... this something that you need to come forward with. People need to know this stuff.

You can't keep this from the public, when the TPTB are using this to try to pass gun legislation and start a civil war! People need to know that the government used this opportunity for their benefit.

Please OP... if you are being genuine... come forward with this information with evidence. You need to do it as fast as possible as your life you could be in danger. If people know you came forward, they can not kill you without drawing huge suspicion.
 Quoting: Dr. Manhattan


Let me tell you guys that I do live here and I know multiple families that were impacted by these murders.

Having said that all the proof you need to know is readily available on the internet for you to put the pieces together.

I believe this was a professional hit and they used Lanza as a Patsy to make another "crazed Lone Gunman" scenario to justify a gun ban even though AR-15s are never used in crimes. Would it be easier to conduct such an attack with one handgun and multiple 16 round magazines ? Of course it would be. That is why they only found 4 hand guns in the school. But since they want to ban the AR-15 they have to include that weapon as part of the attack.

They are desperate to create a motive for Lanza and also avoid at all costs the reality that there were multiple gunmen on an operation in support of a political agenda to ban guns. ( That is my opinion and best guess as to what is going on)

The guy who started this thread knows the correct names of the local stores. I have no reason to think he is lying.

I know there is a lot of weird stuff like why is Robbie Parker and the McDonnells smiling and all that but those are ancillary issues. We have much bigger concerns.

There should be plenty of surveillance video but I will bet we will not see a single frame that conclusively identified Lanza with an AR-15. I may be wrong but I doubt it.

This action did what Fast and Furious failed to do. Before the bodies were cold Feinstein was waving her legislation and the President came to Newtown and raised the political card in the memorial service. While Congressman Nadler suggested to "exploit" the tragedy. The NRA is demonized. Many of us that express our concerns in the forums are attacked for simply raising the questions that should be raised. Why would we not want to know why a SWAT guy just happened to be at the scene with Lanza?


1. Newtown Bee reporter stated that a man "spotted" in the woods was an armed SWAT guy from another town. This is a massive red flag and the MSM media did not report it and
the State Police spokesman gave misleading information on the subject by stating "if we found somebody chopping wood we detained them"? SERIOUSLY WTF- There are also tweets from a local reporter on the scene Jany Libor is his name.

[link to newtownbee.com]




2. State Police issued a press release 1/18/2013 stating that only a shotgun was retrieved from the car. This is a blatant contradiction to the reports all day long that the AR-15 was left in the car and also there is incontrovertible proof that two long guns were retrieved as seen in the helicopter video.

Look at 2:30 on this video

[link to www.youtube.com]


3. These are the best videos I have found

Evidence of Assailants Disguised Dressed as Clergy


[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]


Crime scene with discarded clothes apparently for clergy/Nun disguises


[link to img.gawkerassets.com]

Multiple shooters -Man wearing camo arrested in wooded area - another man seen avoiding capture

[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]


Police Radio Transmission "Take the life of Adam"

[link to www.youtube.com]

I do live here NO BULLSHIT and I have had my nose in the dirt every day trying to find out what I can. But I really do not know much more than you do.

I have on very good source that the story about Lanza being denied a gun at Dick's Sporting Goods in Danbury is complete bullshit. They did not even carry the AR-15 anyway and why would Lanza need one.


I posted on another thread as well, what is so troubling is knowing that high level government personnel are covering for the criminals that did this. We know there were two long guns taken from the car and yet the state police press release said only a shotgun was retrieved?

We know a SWAT guy was caught with Lanza and Lt Vance states something like " oh we may have found some people cutting wood"?

What do you think will happen to anybody who speaks out.

Our hope is that someone from the local PD or some of the State Troopers come forward, or anonymously to the local paper. The main stream media, State Police and Federal are all on board with the official story.
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Excuse me... Jany L I B O R was the guys name?? gasp
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the man's name is libor jany, not the other way around ... and he's not just a local reporter; he works for the hearst connecticut media group

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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
I will post no proof that I actually do live here.

I wouldn't call BS on this, but I guess this can be easily resolved. Shoot some pics with your mobile phone from the school or Rosen's house and report back.

It's not like we are asking for your utility bill right?

That shouldn't be a problem? Today when you come home from work, just drive by one of these places we talk about and snap a pic with your cell...so easy 1.2.3

The IP doesn't mean anything, everyone can change their IP these days.

I would have a thousand questions, so I will check back for some photos.


Thanks!
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If you are real...
The Exif data will be sufficient proof. Don't take pictures with
Your phone. Traceable back to you. Don't send pictures
using your phone or public wi-fi. Use a Hard-wired location
Such as library or college where many use the same terminal.
Stay safe.
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Yes, however, it should be very easy to solve the problem. You would be very useful, if you claim to be a real concerned citizen of Newtown/Sandy Hook.

Like I said, as soon as I get anything from you that tells me you are real, I will draft you a Todo-List. If you aren't scared to ask questions, and really want to know what happened in your town, I would have several people you could ask some questions.

If I tell my other author of you, and you are real, he will have plenty to add to the list. We can only do so much besides blogging and calling people.

I seriously hope we can go further in this thread...


So let's do this.
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OP, don't trust anyone on here with private info, including this person ^^. A LOT of people come to GLP. You would be VERY surprised to know who...
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
My question in the Sandy Hill HOAX up till now has been the 'out of jurisdiction' SWAT person in the tree line.

How did he get 'in place' even before local PD arrived, and found him.

The OP observation of closed roads and unusual cars indicates a pre-event planning and set-up. Not including the local PD in this almost got the SWAT person shot by the local PD. The SWAT first runs away from police, then confronts them, then ID's himself, all very indicative of someone not intending to be caught.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


There was no out of jurisdiction, or even in jurisdiction, SWAT(or any other LE) in the tree line before local PD arrived.
 Quoting: Holden 32744103


Archived radio traffic and heli video proves you wrong.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


The Newtown Bee reporter name is Andrew Gorosko you can call him if you want.

My guess is that a local cop is so disgusted with what happened he mustered up the courage to tip off the reporter. We need more like him.

[link to newtownbee.com]
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Re: I live in in Newtown, CT
My question in the Sandy Hook HOAX up till now has been the 'out of jurisdiction' SWAT person in the tree line.

How did he get 'in place' even before local PD arrived, and found him.

The OP observation of closed roads and unusual cars indicates a pre-event planning and set-up. Not including the local PD in this almost got that SWAT person shot by the local PD. The SWAT first runs away from police, then confronts them, then ID's himself, all very indicative of someone not intending to be caught.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


Go find the picture of the supposed State police SWAT from the day. While CT SWAT was there as some point many who do not where the same uniform. Also most do not have identifying shoulder patches. And one has a patch that is a 'morale patch' available from the internet.

When you compare to photos from CT state SWAT teams that are known authentic it is obvious that there non-CT State Police SWAT in camo there. Why?
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My question in the Sandy Hill HOAX up till now has been the 'out of jurisdiction' SWAT person in the tree line.

How did he get 'in place' even before local PD arrived, and found him.

The OP observation of closed roads and unusual cars indicates a pre-event planning and set-up. Not including the local PD in this almost got the SWAT person shot by the local PD. The SWAT first runs away from police, then confronts them, then ID's himself, all very indicative of someone not intending to be caught.
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There was no out of jurisdiction, or even in jurisdiction, SWAT(or any other LE) in the tree line before local PD arrived.
 Quoting: Holden 32744103


This is the 10 thousand pound elephant in the room and is what everybody should be asking about but instead everybody complains about Robbie Parker smiling and then jumping to the conclusion that the whole thing is a hoax.

Yes there are intriguing questions about the stolen picture of Allison Wyat and the photoshop paste in of Emilie Parker and all that but in the end what do those get you ?

In the mean time we have hard evidence of radio transmissions and helicopter video and eye witness statements.
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I discounted the 'SWAT' as another volunteer 'just doing his job' because how else could he get in there?
OTOH if there was a staging area for FBI cars and closed roads according to OP. "SWAT' was assigned there pre-Hoax.

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The only problem I have with the original post is..

Eating Captain Crunch and Mountain Dew?! You're better than that! All that GMO food is toxic!
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Same thing i was thinking!
WAR INSIDE MY HEAD.
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This is all very interesting.
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Excuse me... Jany L I B O R was the guys name?? gasp
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the man's name is libor jany, not the other way around ... and he's not just a local reporter; he works for the hearst connecticut media group




Who has a name like that? I didn't really follow the comments but I know Libor has come up regarding GE and Peter Lanza. It was Libor wasn't it?

Maybe I'm off on that.
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I know Scarlett Lewis. But I would like to know where in the hell she got all of that money to "spruce" herself up for interviews.
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You end by by saying you "don't know what's going on" but present your experience and theory. well, no one believes what the media presents as truth, and our govenment has zero credibility. But I DO know Scarlett Lewis, her mother Maureen, her ex Neil (Jesse's father) and her two sons. My kids saw hers all summer, they go boating on the same lake together. They are kind and good people, Scarlett owns a farm and has opened it up to many children who might not ever get to go horseback riding or experience "farm life". So why in the world would you put such an ugly, unrelated remark into your post? Are you one of her stupid neighbors who bought one of the "McMansions" in the new development they put in across the street, and who now complain about her barn and animals even though they live across from a working 1700's farm??? One of the people who have left nasty notes, have let her sheep and other animals out then called Animal Control to complain? Hmmm ???

I live two towns away (Huntington) and my shop, Talisman (you can google it to confirm) is one town away in Monroe. We are ALL devastated here by this senseless, horrible act of violence. No matter who or what perpetrated it, the children ARE dead. We are all grieving. There are many unanswered questions, much that is not being told to us and we are aware of all that. But don't say things that are just mean and have no relevance - Scarlett doesn't deserve that, and as her friend I am deeply offended. Come to the shop, I'll be happy to discuss this in in-depth with you ...

Thank you,
Laura Lenhard (I am NO "anonymous coward"!!!)
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Are you a witch?

[link to www.talismanct.com]
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Excuse me... Jany L I B O R was the guys name?? gasp
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the man's name is libor jany, not the other way around ... and he's not just a local reporter; he works for the hearst connecticut media group




Who has a name like that? I didn't really follow the comments but I know Libor has come up regarding GE and Peter Lanza. It was Libor wasn't it?

Maybe I'm off on that.
 Quoting: Angelic_Warrior


I thought the same thing but then I realized he looks Arabic or something so I guess it's possible
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I know Scarlett Lewis. But I would like to know where in the hell she got all of that money to "spruce" herself up for interviews.
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You end by by saying you "don't know what's going on" but present your experience and theory. well, no one believes what the media presents as truth, and our govenment has zero credibility. But I DO know Scarlett Lewis, her mother Maureen, her ex Neil (Jesse's father) and her two sons. My kids saw hers all summer, they go boating on the same lake together. They are kind and good people, Scarlett owns a farm and has opened it up to many children who might not ever get to go horseback riding or experience "farm life". So why in the world would you put such an ugly, unrelated remark into your post? Are you one of her stupid neighbors who bought one of the "McMansions" in the new development they put in across the street, and who now complain about her barn and animals even though they live across from a working 1700's farm??? One of the people who have left nasty notes, have let her sheep and other animals out then called Animal Control to complain? Hmmm ???

I live two towns away (Huntington) and my shop, Talisman (you can google it to confirm) is one town away in Monroe. We are ALL devastated here by this senseless, horrible act of violence. No matter who or what perpetrated it, the children ARE dead. We are all grieving. There are many unanswered questions, much that is not being told to us and we are aware of all that. But don't say things that are just mean and have no relevance - Scarlett doesn't deserve that, and as her friend I am deeply offended. Come to the shop, I'll be happy to discuss this in in-depth with you ...

Thank you,
Laura Lenhard (I am NO "anonymous coward"!!!)
 Quoting: CTChick


tell us more about the witchcraft store you run

:fryglow:
 Quoting: The Gallows


Pretty cool shop. just didnt know that CT had such a "New Age" following.

"Talisman is a New Age shop offering unique artifacts and objects, both newly made and vintage, all of a spiritual/mystical nature from around the world, throughout the ages.

Talisman is a place where people can meet and gather to discuss ideas and issues concerning aspects of their personal beliefs without fear of ridicule or judgment. We will offer opportunities to experience various truths and healings through diverse personal spiritual experiences."

from talismanct.com

FREE ADVERTISING LAURA. ;)
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I like the sign in the pic that says 'Witch Way'.
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In IL we have PD channels for multijurisdictional APB's.
Maybe 'Mr Swat' was just driving thru and picked up the radio bulletin and stationed himself in the woods.

All this without;
Reporting/IDing himself to local PD?!
Going to the trees instead of the school where shots were heard coming from? (Maybe not the hero type?)

Local PD catches him after a local school shooting incident where the local cops' children or local friends of his children attend... then lets a non-local, armed guy, in camo, with a 'Get out of Jail Free' ID card sit in the front seat of his squad car.
I don't think that local PD would be able to look at his local PD comrades or local residents in the face again!

Sounds like an elaborate hoax.

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Fast forward to right this second. I've read the theories and the stories and honestly, those are the only ones that add up. I live here and I do not know what the **** went on. This town is fairly small. I know right many people. I know Eugene Rosen. He is an extremely creepy bastard. I know Scarlett Lewis. But I would like to know where in the hell she got all of that money to "spruce" herself up for interviews. But the Phelps and Parker families that seem to be shoved down our throat, I have no idea in hell who they are. I've asked family and friends and they don't know who they are. I know a Robert Parker, but that sure as hell isn't him in the interviews.

I just do not know what is going on.
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Does Scarlett Lewis have a son and is he now deceased?
 Quoting: ParanoiaGirl 32926269


I am surprised he didn't verify that. He just made a bad comment about her which wasn't nice.
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let me add my voice to those rightfully calling the op a lying little tramp - and no doubt another military or pig family brat. not one cried - not one died - the op lied. oh, and the talisman person? et tu, porcus
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Wasn't trying to advertise my shop (and know I don't sell online, no reason to think I'd benefit from this) - just didn't want anyone throwing up BS flags on my post as I have nothing to prove or hide. Like most of the people on GLP, I follow the pinned threads because I love the fact I can read about what is going on all around the world from the perspective of people who are actually experiencing it first-hand. Particularly in the case of earth events (quakes, hurricanes etc) this is amazing.

As far as this thread - I've known Scarlett and her family (all of whom are church-going Christians) for over ten years. I think the world of her, she is and always has been a good, kind person.

I wish I had details to present on the SH shooting - I do not. I wasn't trying to derail this thread, I was sticking up for my friend as I believe almost anyone else would. It was so badly reported on from the onset, and there is so much we are not being told. The only information I find alarming is that I have heard Adam's father (a high ranking banker) was scheduled to give damning testimony in the Libor scandal -- as was the father of the Colorado "Batman" shooting. Deeply suspicious.
 Quoting: CTChick


Most church going Christians don't have anything to do with witches, nor would they let their kids hang out with a witches kids.

Nice try Laura.

We've been exploring the satanic aspect of this event also. You are helping us to put the pieces together, actually. Thank you for disclosing yourself to us.

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