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This gets more credibility by the excellent new timeline

Newtown Sandy Hook School Massacre: Updated Timeline, Chronological Assemblage of Coverage
By James F. Tracy
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January 30
.. Redding CT Police Chief Douglas Fuchs states: “By 9:45 that morning I found myself with two other Redding police officers and Redding EMF standing in the parking lot of Sandy Hook School.” First reports of shots being fired at Sandy Hook was at 9:35AM. The distance from the Redding Police Department to Sandy Hook Elementary is 11.9 miles and takes 26 minutes to travel at legal speed. Assuming Fuchs and his cohorts were traveling at twice the legal speed (120MPH) to the school it would take them 13 minutes to arrive at 9:45AM. This is assuming there were in fact calls for backup to surrounding communities. Mark Follman and Brett Brownell, “WATCH: Newtown Parents Speak Out,” Mother Jones, February 8, 2013.

A well prepared operation!
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this just in from yahoo news: no records of this event, including 911 calls will be released. that seems odd.
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this just in from yahoo news: no records of this event, including 911 calls will be released. that seems odd.
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That makes no sense to me at all. The alleged shooter is dead. There is not going to be a trial so there are no "defendant's rights" to protect. They're not releasing anything because whatever they have will not support the "official story." Judging from the article, it seems at least a few journalists are questioning why nothing's being released. And no, sealing things "because it's so horrible" is not justification in my opinion. You'd think they'd want to release information just to shut the "conspiracy theorists" up.

"In denying a request by the AP for police reports and 911 calls, the Newtown Police Department said releasing the documents was prohibited by state law "as information to be used in a prospective law enforcement action."

"Adam" acted alone according to Vance so what's with this???
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Good thread here, although long and tons of shillery throughout.

After reading this entire thread, here's what stands out:

**Repeated requests asking about info on Scarlett Lewis's Child (no one has answered)

**Good info from Laura Lenhard (which went nowhere because everyone jumped down her throat about being a witch, which happens to be irrelevant for this thread)

**Best/most thorough post on this thread was this: Quote from user 24627187 on 1/25/13 on page 7 (not a single response to it)...but the thread got derailed too soon and everyone skipped over this important post.

**excellent post here that ALSO was overlooked. Good Quote from user 6866651
"The people who made this incident got what they wanted. Total confusion of the facts and a precursor to gun control.

There is no right answer on this story. They intentionally kept putting out counter-facts so nothing could be discerned. The obvious smoking gun IMO is the discarded clothing outside the lanza car, and the fact that 9/11, Colorado, 7/7 bombings, and Sandy Hook all had the same mock drills running.

You can't discover the real story. You have paid shills, whether government or 3rd party hired all over the internet. The only obvious thing about this Sandy Hook incident is that the intelligence services, in cooperation with homeland security, had a part in it. IMO."

99% of this thread was bogus, but the 1% listed above is what needs further examination.
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Good thread here, although long and tons of shillery throughout.

After reading this entire thread, here's what stands out:

**Repeated requests asking about info on Scarlett Lewis's Child (no one has answered)

**Good info from Laura Lenhard (which went nowhere because everyone jumped down her throat about being a witch, which happens to be irrelevant for this thread)

**Best/most thorough post on this thread was this: Quote from user 24627187 on 1/25/13 on page 7 (not a single response to it)...but the thread got derailed too soon and everyone skipped over this important post.

**excellent post here that ALSO was overlooked. Good Quote from user 6866651
"The people who made this incident got what they wanted. Total confusion of the facts and a precursor to gun control.

There is no right answer on this story. They intentionally kept putting out counter-facts so nothing could be discerned. The obvious smoking gun IMO is the discarded clothing outside the lanza car, and the fact that 9/11, Colorado, 7/7 bombings, and Sandy Hook all had the same mock drills running.

You can't discover the real story. You have paid shills, whether government or 3rd party hired all over the internet. The only obvious thing about this Sandy Hook incident is that the intelligence services, in cooperation with homeland security, had a part in it. IMO."

99% of this thread was bogus, but the 1% listed above is what needs further examination.
 Quoting: dmhennen


Great summary, D. Really interesting to go back and read these early threads. Pretty sure I hear several familiar voices "from Newtown."
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I will post no proof that I actually do live here. I'm sure some have clicked away immediately at that confession and I do not blame them. You may or may not believe in what I am about to say and that is your choice.

I live in Newtown. I live about 1 mile from Sandy Hook Elementary on Riverside Road. I didn't go to work on Friday Dec 14th. I called in sick but I was playing hooky. I work at a restaurant in Danbury. I've spent the past 2 hours debating with myself if I should post this. I could have posted it somewhere else but this site seems to always pop up when the Sandy Hook "shooting" is concerned. I figured this was the most popular spot.

At around 8:50-9:00am I had just finished eating my breakfast. I had Captain Crunch cereal. I had used the last of my milk. I decided to go get some at Caraluzzi's because a friend of mine works there and I wanted to see what he was up to that evening. I get in my car at about 9:05am. I drive West on Riverside Road. Before I even got to the Fire House, I noticed a lot of vehicles parked there. Way, way, way more than usual. A few was parked on both sides of the road. I figured they was just doing some kind of training or a meeting. However one thing did stick out and that was the fact that a lot of the vehicles was solid silver and solid black. I drive past the Fire House and the Senior Center is right next door less than 100 yards. That parking lot was full as well with some of the same vehicles mixed with trucks and what not. Vehicles you would expect to see in a parking lot. Still I thought nothing of it. I go get my milk.

I'm in Caraluzzi's and I've been talking to my friend for a right good while and we hear 2 police cars go by. About 5 minutes later we hear a Helicopter. Dave comes from the back and said, "They must be doing another drill again. Scanner said mass casualty incident involving children". Right then I figured out why all those vehicles was at the Fire House and Senior Center. Because it's not the first time they have done that. They did a similar thing about 1 year ago around this time of year. And they are always doing car accidents that concerns Hazmat or whatever. I told them what I saw. Dave said, "Those cars sound like FBI cars. I guess they would be in on it". So I figure to go so I could catch a peek at what was going on. I get to town and couldn't go down Riverside Road. I told the officer that I live down there. He said, "No through traffic even for residents. Fire and Rescue and Police need to finish doing what they are doing". I said, "What are they doing?". He said, "I would tell you if I knew and I have no clue. The way it sounds they are running a drill but we have been blocked from main traffic. I was just told to do traffic control and make sure no one goes down there".

Then I drive west to Danbury. I don't know why but I just did. I was thinking to myself that that was what I get for playing hooky from work. I had the radio on but not loud enough to hear it. I turn it up thinking maybe I could catch what was going on. The local station mentioned nothing. At about 10:00 they break in from Sammy Hagar's "I Can't Drive 55". The guy said that he was hearing reports of an incident at Sandy Hook Elem and that surrounding schools was on lock down however, "I called my wife because she works at Newtown Middle School and she said they weren't on lock down and haven't heard anything about an incident. So it appears information has been mixed up. We need to get our stuff together before they tell me to report".

I get to Danbury and I go into Global gas station to get a Mt. Dew. They had the tv on and I froze. They was watching coverage of the "shooting". I just watched for 30 minutes frozen. Then I started thinking about all of those cars at the Fire Dept. I didn't know what to think about that. My brain just didn't work after watching the tv.

Fast forward to right this second. I've read the theories and the stories and honestly, those are the only ones that add up. I live here and I do not know what the **** went on. This town is fairly small. I know right many people. I know Eugene Rosen. He is an extremely creepy bastard. I know Scarlett Lewis. But I would like to know where in the hell she got all of that money to "spruce" herself up for interviews. But the Phelps and Parker families that seem to be shoved down our throat, I have no idea in hell who they are. I've asked family and friends and they don't know who they are. I know a Robert Parker, but that sure as hell isn't him in the interviews.

I just do not know what is going on.
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this is the kinda witness info you can be sure is not part of the official story.
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Anyone in Newtown know Josh Sugarmann?

He is a native of Newtown.



He also founded the Violence Policy Center (VPC) and is known for creating the term 'assault rifle'.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.libertybelles.org]

"The semi-automatic weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons — anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun — can only increase that chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons." — Josh Sugarman, 1988, Violence Policy Center."


So the event used to trigger the attack on the 2nd Amendment using the fear stirred by Josh Sugarmann in 1988 is centered in his own hometown.
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absolutely fascinating
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Dave comes from the back and said, "They must be doing another drill again. Scanner said mass casualty incident involving children"...Then I drive west to Danbury. I don't know why but I just did. I was thinking to myself that that was what I get for playing hooky from work. I had the radio on but not loud enough to hear it. I turn it up thinking maybe I could catch what was going on. The local station mentioned nothing. At about 10:00 they break in from Sammy Hagar's "I Can't Drive 55".

Just pointing out that there was no mention of a mass casualty before 10 a.m.

In fact, that is a key problem with the response--not a single Newtown cop reported a mass casualty (ever) to dispatch; it wasn't until 10:03 a.m. that EMT Cathy Dahlmeyer finally relayed to Bob Nute, "Call for everything."

So I would add this OP to the list of yet another piece of disinfo floated to make it seem as if the medical response was normal--it wasn't.

Not because the medical guys messed up, but because the cops messed up. Very sad, but very true.

By there own signed statements, cops had no later than 9:51 a.m. found that not two, but 26 students and staff had been gunned down.

Not one, single NPD guy tells this to dispatch.

And according to information snuck through via CSP officers' statements, NPD officers actually found those students and staff much earlier than 9:51 a.m.

Yet no one said anything.

Why?

Anyway, you have all kinds of media pieces and OPs like this thread put out there then to casually insert memes into the public that "we knew this was a mass casualty immediately."

No one knew. That's why there weren't more than two ambulances on scene for more than half an hour after shooting had begun. In other words, those kids bled for a solid half hour before anyone had any clue there were even any kids shot. And NOT because cops didn't know they'd been shot, but because for some inexcusable reason (sorry, but that has to be said at some point) they didn't relay the information as to the staggering jump in patient numbers.

They'll say it's because everyone was dead and there was no point, but how come CSP had the exact OPPOSITE reaction?? It was CSP who told Dahlmeyer to call for everything (even though her interview tried to sort of say Chapman told her this).

You can hear Kullgren start to shut things down the minute things go south--he does tell an ambulance to stage outside the school at some point (it doesn't, because 1) it's not there yet and 2) the roads are hopelessly blocked), but you can hear the hesitation in his voice even though the shooter has been down for ages.

Anyway. Going back to these old threads is really revealing (which is why some of them have vamoosed). Once you placed these strange 'I'm from Newtown!' and media pieces in the context of NPD stalling EMS--worse, they didn't even call for more EMS--almost everything snaps into place.
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Sorry--the first para above (ending w/Hagar) was a quote from the OP.
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When I say Kullgren seems to shut things down after things go south, I mean after one of the NPD guys offs the kid in cuffs.

This suspicion does not come from me--it comes from the brave CSP guys (and at least one NPD guy) who felt bad enough about what happened to take serious risks when penning their sworn statements--risks that make it fairly obvious what happened and why local cops on scene suddenly went dark for a good 10 minutes.
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Some weird shit happened there, thats for sure...
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Hi, I mean no disrespect but there's been so many people trying to screw with facts we actually know. To be honest, I can't be sure whether your story is real or not. Sorry, I'm honestly not saying your a lier. It's just very difficult to trust anyone these days.

Perhaps, you could tell us some things you know for sure, that won't identify who you are? Like, "Was Sandy Hook Elementary school really still in operation at the time of the 'shooting'?" Because, there's a lot of evidence showing it had been closed for quite awhile. It was due to the age and very poor condition of the building.

Do you know anyone, like a neighbor, a friend, a family members friend etc, who's child actually went to SHES and or was possibly even a witness or victim?

Are you friends with any of the SH Volunteer Firefighters? If so did you ask any of them what really happened?

Have you seen any of "the families" who were constantly on the news and also did a lot of National interviews; anywhere around town since the [alleged] shooting? I.e. grocery stores and other places?

As, it is a very small town I would think there aren't a ton of local store's. It's kinda strange no one you know has seen even one of these people.

If SH had approximately 500 students and let's say a mother and father living there. That's 1500 people not counting and siblings or school staff! So Where the #uck did they all go? If all these people really live there many local residents must know them. Right?

Did you go to any school with any male with the last name Lanza?

Did you personally ever go to SHES when you were young ? If so how many years ago would it be since you had seen the school?

Finally... Did you notice a lot of new people move to the area in the year or 2 prior to the "Shooting"? Meaning: So many new families where you and your family /friends thought it was kinda strange?

Thanks for any information you can give.
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Some weird shit happened there, thats for sure...
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Hi, I mean no disrespect but there's been so many people trying to screw with facts we actually know. To be honest, I can't be sure whether your story is real or not. Sorry, I'm honestly not saying your a lier. It's just very difficult to trust anyone these days.

Perhaps, you could tell us some things you know for sure, that won't identify who you are? Like, "Was Sandy Hook Elementary school really still in operation at the time of the 'shooting'?" Because, there's a lot of evidence showing it had been closed for quite awhile. It was due to the age and very poor condition of the building.

Do you know anyone, like a neighbor, a friend, a family members friend etc, who's child actually went to SHES and or was possibly even a witness or victim?

Are you friends with any of the SH Volunteer Firefighters? If so did you ask any of them what really happened?

Have you seen any of "the families" who were constantly on the news and also did a lot of National interviews; anywhere around town since the [alleged] shooting? I.e. grocery stores and other places?

As, it is a very small town I would think there aren't a ton of local store's. It's kinda strange no one you know has seen even one of these people.

If SH had approximately 500 students and let's say a mother and father living there. That's 1500 people not counting and siblings or school staff! So Where the #uck did they all go? If all these people really live there many local residents must know them. Right?

Did you go to any school with any male with the last name Lanza?

Did you personally ever go to SHES when you were young ? If so how many years ago would it be since you had seen the school?

Finally... Did you notice a lot of new people move to the area in the year or 2 prior to the "Shooting"? Meaning: So many new families where you and your family /friends thought it was kinda strange?

Thanks for any information you can give.
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I think you're asking the wrong person?!
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"Nobody Died at SandyHook" an excellent book and also a better video, showing that the photos of children exiting were staged. SandyHook was a hoax.

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"Nobody Died at SandyHook" an excellent book and also a better video, showing that the photos of children exiting were staged. SandyHook was a hoax.
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I like your style MarPep..... and true that by the way!





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