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I'm an Atheist. Why should I believe in a god? Which god? and why?

 
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Atheism is a claim to absolute knowledge of the existence or rather, lack thereof, of god. No logical person would make this claim.
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No its not.

Atheism only claims that believing in any religion that that person is somewhat familiar with is pointless.

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Positive atheism (also called strong atheism and hard atheism) is the form of atheism that asserts that no deities exist.[1] Negative atheism (also called weak atheism and soft atheism) is any other type of atheism, wherein a person does not believe in the existence of any deities, but does not explicitly assert there to be none.[1][2][3]
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Thank you, I meant to make that point in full.
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Have you done an astral projection? How do you know it is not your imagination or a trance?
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Where do you think shit like this...

:HexagonsE8:

...comes from?

The universe is a lattice.
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please explain. I don't understand the significance of the picture? thank you
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OP, there's only 2 going theories.

Evolution & Creation.

If not evolution, then it means there's a Creator.

Search your favorite tube place for "100 reasons why evolution is so stupid" to see science and evidence used to debunk evolution. That only leaves one thing left...
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Euhm.....


False dichotomy.

First of if it is evolution or creation then how exactly do you determine which creation myth is true out of the thousands we have?

Second off if you ultimately do decide out of the thousands of creation myths that the one in the Bible is correct then how are you supposed to know which interpretation of the Bible is correct? There are again thousands of different denominations within Christianity and they can't all be right at the same time.

Third off, you are comparing 2 things with each other which actually don't compare at all. The scientific method essentially doesn't have any dogma's or ultimate truths, while most religions are riddled with them.
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Yes, I have reasonable faith. If people witnessed that, I'd wonder if they have been duped. I'd question it. If I'd seen it myself, I think of other possibilities if possible and deduce what is more probable.
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Try the intensity of perhaps 20 orgasms stacked on top of each other, flowing through your entire body out from the spine and neck, when you hit the Crown Chakras with the Force of Desire.

Ignorance isn't bliss...

chuckle
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Trust me.

If you felt real meditative energy, you wouldn't question it.

thumbs
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I have, as a christian, when I was one. Religions experience it all around the world, even non religious.
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Right.

Thus proves the validity.

I can do it at will.

big_smile
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Have you done an astral projection? How do you know it is not your imagination or a trance?
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Where do you think shit like this...

HexagonsE8

...comes from?

The universe is a lattice.
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please explain. I don't understand the significance of the picture? thank you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32076855


giggle

Open your mind.

That is the structure of the universe's underpinnings.

Sacred Geometry.

Note the shape of carbon.

Hexagonal.

Water.

Triangular.

chuckle
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A genuine atheist should have no problem at all proving their convictions by committing suicide at a moments notice.

A true atheist has no intrinsic value for life by definition.
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A true atheist has no belief in a god or gods by definition... that is all.

Also I'll think you'll find that somebody who lacks belief in an afterlife will value their existence far too much to commit suicide to "prove" anything.

There is no better place, no better state of being then to be alive right here, right now, it's all we get so we hold onto it with both hands and we love it and preserve it to the best of our ability.

Life is the ultimate measure of value, because it's all we get.
Religion devalues life all the time, you see it in the actions of Islamic martyrs who blow themselves up in crowds of innocent civilians, you hear it in the language of mourning believers.

"He's gone to a better place."
"When we die we become perfect."
"We suffer on Earth but are rewarded in Heaven."
"God called him home."

I would argue that religion automatically devalues life by definition as it holds the concept of an afterlife in higher esteem than earthly existence.

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God is not a person.
God is quantum. The very fabric of our reality is mathematically vetted holographic. In true reality, our existence is a holographic simulation, like in a computer, albeit infinitely more complex. Incomprehensibly complex to the simple physical human brain. Since our reality is a simulation, there must be a program. A computus.

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How do you know this?
If this is a program, what programmed it? Then what programmed that? Then what programmed that?
There is no end. It does make sense, or offer an explaination.
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The finality of it all can not be comprehended via the human brain. If you can achieve an astral projection and bring that knowledge back, then you will have a glimpse. Otherwise just wait until you die. It's only a few years out for all of us.
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Have you done an astral projection? How do you know it is not your imagination or a trance?
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You just know. Like proving the existence of God, it is a thing of self confirmation. It is a solo realization, not a group effort. No matter what my achievements are, I will never be able to articulate them to someone who is not ready to see.

I've had astral projections my entire life with many instances of physical world confirmations like viewing people and catching them in lies. I have met up with fellow projectors on the astral plane and confirmed it in the physical realm.

But again, if you are not spiritually mature enough to accept it, you will simply dismiss it. And that is fine. We must all learn to crawl before we can walk.

Astral projections are most easily remembered by using the gates of dreaming. The hypnogogic state. Everyone projects every night. The key is to remember then control.

1. Keep a dream journal
2. Google hypnogogic state. Use it to cross over consciously.
3. Transcend the physical world.

It is that easy. Monks have their arms and legs amputated. Eyes plucked out. Ears deafened. Tongue severed. All to achieve an astral projection. They have nurses keep them alive so they are forced to transcend.

All you have to do is keep a dream journal. REALLY keep a dream journal. Everything will progress from there. You will get a quantum leap in spiritual promotion.
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The human psyche tends to worship aspects of the self which it perceives it lacks. In the higher dimensions whatever we place focus on 'becomes'... hence, modern ritualism, mythology, demons, aliens and the rest.

That said, who are your role models? If you're like the majority you probably already worship an assortment of idols put forth by the matrix.
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OP, there's only 2 going theories.

Evolution & Creation.

If not evolution, then it means there's a Creator.

Search your favorite tube place for "100 reasons why evolution is so stupid" to see science and evidence used to debunk evolution. That only leaves one thing left...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1514972


Euhm.....


False dichotomy.

First of if it is evolution or creation then how exactly do you determine which creation myth is true out of the thousands we have?

Second off if you ultimately do decide out of the thousands of creation myths that the one in the Bible is correct then how are you supposed to know which interpretation of the Bible is correct? There are again thousands of different denominations within Christianity and they can't all be right at the same time.

Third off, you are comparing 2 things with each other which actually don't compare at all. The scientific method essentially doesn't have any dogma's or ultimate truths, while most religions are riddled with them.
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First - You have to start first with "Do I believe in God?" Yes or no will put you in one of these 2 categories. Once you believe in God (or don't believe there isn't one), then that's when the next question is asked. This would be the OP's second question. The 1st one needs to be answered first.

Second, this is done with research. Not reading a few tweets, but months/years of research that nobody wants to put time in to. And when one of these "quick people" want an answer and someone who researched it gives their opinion, they're immediately shut down. Research the bible, the different versions of it, etc, and you can trace all variances down to one specific version. Try King James Version. People can pull scripture out all they want to make whatever point they want -- I recommend going back and reading the entire chapter the verses refer to in order to get that all important context that so many people miss.

Third, I'm not sure I agree with you that the scientific method holds no ultimate truths. The Scientific method (used by reproducing results and observing them) can lead to many facts about life; commonly known as "truth." There are many kinds of truth, just like kool-aid. You cannot look for the answers to all truths in one location.

Again, I would recommend any Atheist to check out "100 Reasons why Evolution is so stupid" for some great explanations on definitions of terms; you'll discover that the argument of what to believe in is rooted in everyone not using the same definitions of terms.
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I'm an Atheist. Why should I believe in a god? Which god? and why?

I'm considering god, but need a rational reason to actually believe. I would never take blind faith, as you could end up in any religion just dependant on the influence around you.

Anyway, I'm searching, but need a rational way to decide.
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This is great.

I advise you to try seeking a mystical or peak experience.

Perhaps psyilocybe mushrooms, peyote or ayahuascha will give you the information you are looking for.

There is a far more 'deeper' and 'mystical' and 'ancient' aspects in this than just 'God', the mysteries lie deeper than just God himself.

Does any of this make sense?
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I'm an Atheist. Why should I believe in a god? Which god? and why?

I'm considering god, but need a rational reason to actually believe. I would never take blind faith, as you could end up in any religion just dependant on the influence around you.

Anyway, I'm searching, but need a rational way to decide.
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This is great.

I advise you to try seeking a mystical or peak experience.

Perhaps psyilocybe mushrooms, peyote or ayahuascha will give you the information you are looking for.

There is a far more 'deeper' and 'mystical' and 'ancient' aspects in this than just 'God', the mysteries lie deeper than just God himself.

Does any of this make sense?
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I understand a lot of people have posted wonderful comments written with many long paragraphs but if you take my route, it's simple and faster.
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OP, there's only 2 going theories.

Evolution & Creation.

If not evolution, then it means there's a Creator.

Search your favorite tube place for "100 reasons why evolution is so stupid" to see science and evidence used to debunk evolution. That only leaves one thing left...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1514972


Euhm.....


False dichotomy.

First of if it is evolution or creation then how exactly do you determine which creation myth is true out of the thousands we have?

Second off if you ultimately do decide out of the thousands of creation myths that the one in the Bible is correct then how are you supposed to know which interpretation of the Bible is correct? There are again thousands of different denominations within Christianity and they can't all be right at the same time.

Third off, you are comparing 2 things with each other which actually don't compare at all. The scientific method essentially doesn't have any dogma's or ultimate truths, while most religions are riddled with them.
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First - You have to start first with "Do I believe in God?" Yes or no will put you in one of these 2 categories. Once you believe in God (or don't believe there isn't one), then that's when the next question is asked. This would be the OP's second question. The 1st one needs to be answered first.

Second, this is done with research. Not reading a few tweets, but months/years of research that nobody wants to put time in to. And when one of these "quick people" want an answer and someone who researched it gives their opinion, they're immediately shut down. Research the bible, the different versions of it, etc, and you can trace all variances down to one specific version. Try King James Version. People can pull scripture out all they want to make whatever point they want -- I recommend going back and reading the entire chapter the verses refer to in order to get that all important context that so many people miss.

Third, I'm not sure I agree with you that the scientific method holds no ultimate truths. The Scientific method (used by reproducing results and observing them) can lead to many facts about life; commonly known as "truth." There are many kinds of truth, just like kool-aid. You cannot look for the answers to all truths in one location.

Again, I would recommend any Atheist to check out "100 Reasons why Evolution is so stupid" for some great explanations on definitions of terms; you'll discover that the argument of what to believe in is rooted in everyone not using the same definitions of terms.
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You're making this far more confusing than any of this has to be for OP.

Let's get OP on the right track, first.
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You're agnostic not an atheist.
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Ok, no proof of a god/creator has come forward. I shall stick with reason. Unless my view on reason can be proved wrong. Every truth can be found by reason and evidence. There is none for a god or matrix, only imagination. It does bother me that people blindly follow things without exercising reason because I think they can miss out or lead others to miss out. But I don't deny that it is good for some people. But on the flip side painful for a lot of other people.
I don't have a problem with religion, but with it's effect on mankind.
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You should believe in the god called "Crom"...according to Conan, he will help you out, not like the christian pussy god. lol
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You can believe in God without following a religion...
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You should believe in the god called "Crom"...according to Conan, he will help you out, not like the christian pussy god. lol
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I think I'll go with Thor.

That god has a hammer... Jesus was nailed to a cross.

Know what I'm saying?
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OP, there's only 2 going theories.

Evolution & Creation.

If not evolution, then it means there's a Creator.

Search your favorite tube place for "100 reasons why evolution is so stupid" to see science and evidence used to debunk evolution. That only leaves one thing left...
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Euhm.....


False dichotomy.

First of if it is evolution or creation then how exactly do you determine which creation myth is true out of the thousands we have?

Second off if you ultimately do decide out of the thousands of creation myths that the one in the Bible is correct then how are you supposed to know which interpretation of the Bible is correct? There are again thousands of different denominations within Christianity and they can't all be right at the same time.

Third off, you are comparing 2 things with each other which actually don't compare at all. The scientific method essentially doesn't have any dogma's or ultimate truths, while most religions are riddled with them.
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First - You have to start first with "Do I believe in God?" Yes or no will put you in one of these 2 categories. Once you believe in God (or don't believe there isn't one), then that's when the next question is asked. This would be the OP's second question. The 1st one needs to be answered first.

Second, this is done with research. Not reading a few tweets, but months/years of research that nobody wants to put time in to. And when one of these "quick people" want an answer and someone who researched it gives their opinion, they're immediately shut down. Research the bible, the different versions of it, etc, and you can trace all variances down to one specific version. Try King James Version. People can pull scripture out all they want to make whatever point they want -- I recommend going back and reading the entire chapter the verses refer to in order to get that all important context that so many people miss.

Third, I'm not sure I agree with you that the scientific method holds no ultimate truths. The Scientific method (used by reproducing results and observing them) can lead to many facts about life; commonly known as "truth." There are many kinds of truth, just like kool-aid. You cannot look for the answers to all truths in one location.

Again, I would recommend any Atheist to check out "100 Reasons why Evolution is so stupid" for some great explanations on definitions of terms; you'll discover that the argument of what to believe in is rooted in everyone not using the same definitions of terms.
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I've looked at things in detail for years, so i have my own opinions. But I'm willing to change my beliefs based on reason and evidence.
Ok, i'll put the documentry on. But I know a lot of arguments that have been disproven, so i don't expect much. thank you for your time.
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OP, there's only 2 going theories.

Evolution & Creation.

If not evolution, then it means there's a Creator.

Search your favorite tube place for "100 reasons why evolution is so stupid" to see science and evidence used to debunk evolution. That only leaves one thing left...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1514972


Euhm.....


False dichotomy.

First of if it is evolution or creation then how exactly do you determine which creation myth is true out of the thousands we have?

Second off if you ultimately do decide out of the thousands of creation myths that the one in the Bible is correct then how are you supposed to know which interpretation of the Bible is correct? There are again thousands of different denominations within Christianity and they can't all be right at the same time.

Third off, you are comparing 2 things with each other which actually don't compare at all. The scientific method essentially doesn't have any dogma's or ultimate truths, while most religions are riddled with them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089462


First - You have to start first with "Do I believe in God?" Yes or no will put you in one of these 2 categories. Once you believe in God (or don't believe there isn't one), then that's when the next question is asked. This would be the OP's second question. The 1st one needs to be answered first.

Second, this is done with research. Not reading a few tweets, but months/years of research that nobody wants to put time in to. And when one of these "quick people" want an answer and someone who researched it gives their opinion, they're immediately shut down. Research the bible, the different versions of it, etc, and you can trace all variances down to one specific version. Try King James Version. People can pull scripture out all they want to make whatever point they want -- I recommend going back and reading the entire chapter the verses refer to in order to get that all important context that so many people miss.

Third, I'm not sure I agree with you that the scientific method holds no ultimate truths. The Scientific method (used by reproducing results and observing them) can lead to many facts about life; commonly known as "truth." There are many kinds of truth, just like kool-aid. You cannot look for the answers to all truths in one location.

Again, I would recommend any Atheist to check out "100 Reasons why Evolution is so stupid" for some great explanations on definitions of terms; you'll discover that the argument of what to believe in is rooted in everyone not using the same definitions of terms.
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I've looked at things in detail for years, so i have my own opinions. But I'm willing to change my beliefs based on reason and evidence.
Ok, i'll put the documentry on. But I know a lot of arguments that have been disproven, so i don't expect much. thank you for your time.
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You're agnostic not an atheist.
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I'm an atheist, trust me, I know.
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just watch this, will help with some of the non faith justified side of things you are looking for

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You're agnostic not an atheist.
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I'm an atheist, trust me, I know.
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Then you wouldn't even entertain the possibility of a God. You sound like you have doubts about your beliefs.
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I'm an Atheist. Why should I believe in a god? Which god? and why?

I'm considering god, but need a rational reason to actually believe. I would never take blind faith, as you could end up in any religion just dependant on the influence around you.

Anyway, I'm searching, but need a rational way to decide.
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You don't have to believe in God. But you are on the

correct path by considereing God. Yes, be open to the

possibility that there may be a God. Be open to that

idea, it may take a while, it may take years, it may take

your whole life, but that does not matter as long as

you are seeking the truth. All the while, live a

good life.
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and the simplest way, just pray
"God if you are real, show me. Talk to me. Fill me with your spirit. If you are real I want to know you" etc

Act like "God" is standing in your room with you, converse with Him. If you dont get any breakthroughs then make your own decision. If you truly knock on the door with an open heart, you will get the answers you are looking for
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OP, there's only 2 going theories.

Evolution & Creation.

If not evolution, then it means there's a Creator.

Search your favorite tube place for "100 reasons why evolution is so stupid" to see science and evidence used to debunk evolution. That only leaves one thing left...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1514972


Euhm.....


False dichotomy.

First of if it is evolution or creation then how exactly do you determine which creation myth is true out of the thousands we have?

Second off if you ultimately do decide out of the thousands of creation myths that the one in the Bible is correct then how are you supposed to know which interpretation of the Bible is correct? There are again thousands of different denominations within Christianity and they can't all be right at the same time.

Third off, you are comparing 2 things with each other which actually don't compare at all. The scientific method essentially doesn't have any dogma's or ultimate truths, while most religions are riddled with them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089462


First - You have to start first with "Do I believe in God?" Yes or no will put you in one of these 2 categories. Once you believe in God (or don't believe there isn't one), then that's when the next question is asked. This would be the OP's second question. The 1st one needs to be answered first.

Second, this is done with research. Not reading a few tweets, but months/years of research that nobody wants to put time in to. And when one of these "quick people" want an answer and someone who researched it gives their opinion, they're immediately shut down. Research the bible, the different versions of it, etc, and you can trace all variances down to one specific version. Try King James Version. People can pull scripture out all they want to make whatever point they want -- I recommend going back and reading the entire chapter the verses refer to in order to get that all important context that so many people miss.

Third, I'm not sure I agree with you that the scientific method holds no ultimate truths. The Scientific method (used by reproducing results and observing them) can lead to many facts about life; commonly known as "truth." There are many kinds of truth, just like kool-aid. You cannot look for the answers to all truths in one location.

Again, I would recommend any Atheist to check out "100 Reasons why Evolution is so stupid" for some great explanations on definitions of terms; you'll discover that the argument of what to believe in is rooted in everyone not using the same definitions of terms.
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So you fully agree that your statement "If not evolution, then it means there's a Creator." is a false dichotomy?

Your statement already excludes possibilities like for example "If not evolution, then it means there's a Creator or it means a whole bunch of creators or it means we are just a computer program in a very powerful AI or the thousands of other possibilities."

That simply is a horrid way to try and argue your case and makes it utterly impossible to go into argument against you because your arguments are simple fallacies.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Please try to learn to phrase your thought processes better and overall if you fall back to fallacies then overall you really can't logically defend your claims.
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and the simplest way, just pray
"God if you are real, show me. Talk to me. Fill me with your spirit. If you are real I want to know you" etc

Act like "God" is standing in your room with you, converse with Him. If you dont get any breakthroughs then make your own decision. If you truly knock on the door with an open heart, you will get the answers you are looking for
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Been there, done that, didn't work.

Now let me guess, you are gonna blame me for not trying hard enough?

What about the billions of non-Christians (past and present) who have tried similar methods and came to the conclusion that Islam was right or that Buddha really is the way to enlightenment? Did they also all not try hard enough?
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Re: I'm an Atheist. Why should I believe in a god? Which god? and why?
Atheism is a claim to absolute knowledge of the existence or rather, lack thereof, of god. No logical person would make this claim.
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This is false. Atheists aren't that egotistical to make such a claim. They are simply without belief. It is the theists who make the claim to absolute knowledge that God exists. Atheists just find that illogical.
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Re: I'm an Atheist. Why should I believe in a god? Which god? and why?
I'm an Atheist. Why should I believe in a god? Which god? and why?

I'm considering god, but need a rational reason to actually believe. I would never take blind faith, as you could end up in any religion just dependant on the influence around you.

Anyway, I'm searching, but need a rational way to decide.
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First ask yourself what you believe in ..?

Why do believe what yo do?

How do you know what you believe in is true...

You should start out reading the Book of JOB in the BIBLE

Realize you worship GOD in spirit

Realize that the fear of GOD is the beginning of wisdom.

The Fear that you realize is the fear of being seep rated from him.
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Re: I'm an Atheist. Why should I believe in a god? Which god? and why?
I'm an Atheist. Why should I believe in a god? Which god? and why?

I'm considering god, but need a rational reason to actually believe. I would never take blind faith, as you could end up in any religion just dependant on the influence around you.

Anyway, I'm searching, but need a rational way to decide.
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Are you serious or playing? Using the intellect, and doing research, there are numerous proofs of God, but no matter how logical the arguments are, I doubt they are persuasive.

Why? An argument appeals to the intellect. The intellect looks for observable phenomena (evidence), compares that to logical statements, listens to the voices of proponents and critics, and then analzes it himself or herself.

What's missing? Love. Love is not logical. You can't prove it ever. There's some evidence but it's largely circumstancial. No one looking outside your heart (proponents or critics) or even the Beloved can know your heart. There's no way to validate it with analysis or logical or evidence. It won't compute.

But because there's Free Will and assuming you're truly interested OP, then:
[link to www.philosophyofreligion.info]

Knock yourself out! Even if you disagree, they are elegant to read and study.
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Re: I'm an Atheist. Why should I believe in a god? Which god? and why?
I'm an Atheist. Why should I believe in a god? Which god? and why?

I'm considering god, but need a rational reason to actually believe. I would never take blind faith, as you could end up in any religion just dependant on the influence around you.

Anyway, I'm searching, but need a rational way to decide.
 Quoting: Please be serious 32076855


First ask yourself what you believe in ..?

Why do believe what yo do?

How do you know what you believe in is true...

You should start out reading the Book of JOB in the BIBLE

Realize you worship GOD in spirit

Realize that the fear of GOD is the beginning of wisdom.

The Fear that you realize is the fear of being seep rated from him.
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