When they start saying "Peace & Safety" and "Peace & Security" for the NWO... (more ancient prophecy being fulfilled NOW)

you continue to cling to this, and i'm not sure why.

the roman catholic church, specifically the papacy is the false prophet, not the antichrist.

are they "anti" Christ - yes, definitely

Relax, it's bullshit. You have more to fear from false Christians than you do anybody else except blind Jews.

All Gentiles are in the 7 churches in Re:2 and 3, it doesn't matter to God what little groups we have made. Judgment comes to all men based on what relationship described in the 7 letters best fits the one they have with God. Some are good and that will make them part of the 1/3 in Zec:13 and the ones who did not overcome will be in the 2/3 that do not see evening on the day the two witnesses are resurrected.

No person alive is exempt from being in this verse.

Re:1:7:
Behold,
he cometh with clouds;
and every eye shall see him,
and they also which pierced him:
and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.
Even so,
Amen.

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great thread Salt! I always look forward to your works!

thanks doc

i cant remember which movie your name comes from... refresh?

I stick with it because that is what the Bible promotes. The Clergy of the RCC left their first love and gave respect to the Pope instead of God alone. That makes them the ones highlighted in the verse below.

Re:2:4:
Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee,
because thou hast left thy first love.
Re:2:5:
Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen,
and repent,
and do the first works;
or else I will come unto thee quickly,
and will remove thy candlestick out of his place,
except thou repent.

The unrepented when the 7th trump sounds will be classified as 'goats' and the place they are sent is where all fallen angels have been since the flood and where satan is headed for the 1,000 years. No men are sent to the lake at the return or at the GWT.

M't:25:41:
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand,
Depart from me,
ye cursed,
into everlasting fire,
prepared for the devil and his angels:

Re:20:1:
And I saw an angel come down from heaven,
having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Re:20:2:
And he laid hold on the dragon,
that old serpent,
which is the Devil,
and Satan,
and bound him a thousand years,
Re:20:3:
And cast him into the bottomless pit,
and shut him up,
and set a seal upon him,
that he should deceive the nations no more,
till the thousand years should be fulfilled:
and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Re:19:21:
And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse,
which sword proceeded out of his mouth:
and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Isa:65:12:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Isa:65:13:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Isa:65:14:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
Isa:65:15:
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:

Scrubs one of the doctors had a screen play titled Dr. Acula and when I saw the dracula avatar in the ones available for free accounts... this who persona just flashed before my mind lol

it was a random occurrence that I can Dr. Acula on here

i used to watch that show non stop... i bet i seen every episode 5 times lol

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46 Prophecies the AntiChrist will fulfill


1. The antichrist will be a man - Daniel 7:24-25

2. He will confirm a covenant for 7 years - Daniel 9:27

Now also, this does not mean that he creates this covenant. The word here for "confirm" is 1396 gabar (gaw-bar'); a primitive root; to be strong; by implication, to prevail, act insolently: KJV-- exceed, confirm, be great, be mighty, prevail, put to more [strength], strengthen, be stronger, be valiant. The antichrist will strengthen a covenant for a 7 year time span. Now this could be an existing covenant (like the Jerusalem Covenant) or a new covenant drawn up at that time.

3. He will rise among 10 kings - Daniel 7:8

This 10 nation union will be a revived Holy Roman Empire - Daniel 2:44

4. He will uproot 3 kings from the original 10 kings to gain political power - Daniel 7:8

5. His 10 nation union will merge into a world government which he will dominate - Revelations 13:1-2

Now this also, could refer to several things. First, the 10 nations could merge into an EXISTING world government, such as the U.N. Or it could for a new world government, much like the U.N. Or, this 10 nation confederation could be something like the new 10 nation common stock market. A union like this would definitely rule the world, without having a "seat" of power. Whoever controls the money, controls the globe.

6. He will ascend to power on a platform of peace. By peace, he will destroy many - Daniel 8:25

7. He will be promoted and exalted by a miracle working religious partner (false prophet) - Revelations 13:11-12

8. He was, and is not, and yet is - Revelations 17:8

More than likely this is referring to political power. The antichrist will have ruled, but then be taken out of power. Only to rise back up again to power as the head of the One World Government.

9. The world government over which he rules will be a red (communistic or socialistic) government - Revelations 17:14

10. The antichrist will be preceded by 7 kings or rulers. He will be the 8th king. He will also be "of" the 7 - Revelations 17:11

Now this scripture has many different ways it can be viewed. The word "goeth" in the scripture is 5217 hupago (hoop-ag'-o); from 5259 and 71; to lead (oneself) under, i.e. withdraw or retire (as if sinking out of sight), literally or figuratively: KJV-- depart, get hence, go (a-) way. So we see that he will withdraw or retire from sight. But will rise back up again to power. Now this could be taken as to mean 7 kings. Or this could be taken as 7 World Governments that have ruled. So far there have been 6. 1. Egypt. 2. Assyria. 3. Babylon. 4. Medo-Persia. 5. Greece. 6. Rome

11. He will have a mouth speaking great things. Very boastful - Daniel 7:8

12. His look will be more stout than his fellows - Daniel 7:20
The word "stout" means 7227 rab (rab); by contracted from 7231; abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality): KJV-- (in) abound (-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great (-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, [time]), (do, have) many (-ifold, things, a time), ([ship-]) master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply (-tude), officer, often [-times], plenteous, populous, prince, process [of time], suffice (-lent). So this can have several meanings. It could mean one of the following: the antichrist will be larger in size than everybody else, will be older than everybody else, will have more of a "following" than anybody else, is a higher military or political rank than anybody else, or is more qualified than anybody else. What ever this verse is speaking about, it is obvious when you look at him.

13. He will have a fierce countenance - Daniel 8:23

14. He will understand puzzling things - Daniel 8:23

15. He will cause craft to prosper - Daniel 8:25
It is interesting to note the definition of the word "craft" here. It is 4820 mirmah (meer-maw'); from 7411 in the sense of deceiving; fraud: KJV-- craft, deceit (-ful, -fully), false, feigned, guile, subtilly, treachery. No wonder, for the Bible says that he is the father of lies. So his policy or his success will make it possible for his deception of the world to prosper. God said that if you do not believe the truth, that he would send strong delusion that you should believe a lie.

16. He apparently assumes world dominating power 3 1/2 years after he confirms the covenant. He then will continue to reign for 42 months - Revelations 13:5

17. The Abomination of Desolation is the event that signals the beginning of this final 42 months - Daniel 9:27
It is interesting to note, that many scholars believe that at the Abomination of Desolation is when Revelations 12:7-10 occurs. At which point the Antichrist becomes "possessed" by Satan himself and then forces the Mark or death upon everybody.

18. He opposes God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

19. He will speak marvelous things against the God of gods - Daniel 11:36

20. He will exalt himself above all that is called God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

21. He will sit in the temple of God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

22. He will claim to be God (or an incarnation of God) - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

23. He will take away the daily sacrifices from the temple - Daniel 11:31

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In my opinion, the 4th Kingdom is different than all previous kingdoms in that those in power are not visible to the masses. In previous kingdoms you had royalty who were clearly visible.

This kingdom has been progressively gobbling up the whole world since the time of the French Revolution. These are the banking families......descendants of the moneychangers who Christ threw out of the temple.


In the end times.....perhaps now.....there will be 10 global banking familes with 10 kings. These kings are currently without a visible kingdom......but still have amassed great power and authority. They are also united in purpose......having one mind.


When they see the one who comes back from the dead, they will declare "who can make war with him?" They will give this one their power/authority in exchange for visible rulership with him. The man of evil will remove three of them.


Daniel 7: 23-24

Rev 17: 12-13

Rev. 13: 3-5

My my somebody has been studying. Nice.

"This 10 nation union will be a revived Holy Roman Empire."
(Daniel 2:44)


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In regard to the above conclusion, how did you reach it?


Daniel 2: 44


"And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever."

He will sit in the temple of God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4 since the 3rd temple isn't built, what is bambam going to sit in, if it's him?

46 Prophecies the AntiChrist will fulfill


Control is political, commercial and religion. The mark at the beginning is a permit to buy and sell, consumers only buy things, business owners are the ones that buy and sell.

It would seem to be new kingdoms and it may not even have political borders if the 'horns' are a reference to language, either way every square foot of the land will be under their control as soon as the 5th trump sounds. Jerusalem is only taken during the 4 days the two witnesses are dead. The worship of the image can only happen in the 4 days they have control of Jerusalem as that is the only time the city is not protected.

Re:17:12:
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings,
which have received no kingdom as yet;
but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

Re:18:11:
And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her;
for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
Re:18:12:
The merchandise of gold,
and silver,
and precious stones,
and of pearls,
and fine linen,
and purple,
and silk,
and scarlet,
and all thyine wood,
and all manner vessels of ivory,
and all manner vessels of most precious wood,
and of brass,
and iron,
and marble,
Re:18:13:
And cinnamon,
and odours,
and ointments,
and frankincense,
and wine,
and oil,
and fine flour,
and wheat,
and beasts,
and sheep,
and horses,
and chariots,
and slaves,
and souls of men.


The 2nd woe is the 200M Horsemen (4 fallen angels) that will kill 1/3 of mankind (some 2.2B people in 1110 days (1260 (42 months)- 150 (1st woe) =1110)


That could still be the Beast since Satan and the Beast are the north and south kings in Da:11, the harlot of Satan's in Re:17 is the kings daughter in Da:11


Was a king on earth before the flood, is not since the flood as that is when they were put into the Pit, will be again when Satan releases him when the 5th trumps sounds in Re:9.


The only 3 that can rule is Satan, the Beast or the False Prophet, all 3 are angelic beings, men follow them but they do not call any of the plays, they are under a deception so how could they be the bosses. The ones creating the deception are the only bosses.


Red is the color of Satan. Jesus left the sword to the governments of the Nations in Romans 13, the 2nd seal is a prophecy about a red sword and when the first 4 trumps sound in 4 days the governments will use the sword against the same ones it is supposed to protect. By the end of the 4th trump Martial Law will be in force on a global scale, when the next trump sounds they fully surender to Satan and the Beast.

Re:13:4:
And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast:
and they worshipped the beast,
saying,
Who is like unto the beast?
who is able to make war with him?


Neb was the 1st (head of gold). Darius and Cyrus are 2 and 3 (silver). Alex and another and Rome are 4, 5 and 6 (brass) and Satan and the Beast from the Pit are 7 and 8.


Just what you would expect from a fallen angel that things he can challenge and beat God.


The verse below is the iron, the verse you are referencing is one of the 10 that are given kingdoms by the Beast, he conquerors 3 of the 10 kings but he is still fully human rather than angelic.


Angelic, just as the verses below are.

Da:11:2:
And now will I shew thee the truth.
Behold,
there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia;
and the fourth shall be far richer than they all:
and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.
Da:11:3:
And a mighty king shall stand up,
that shall rule with great dominion,
and do according to his will.



Angels know much more than any man does.


2Th:2:9:
Even him,
whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

That maens the sitting on the throne comes at the end of the 42 months rather than at the beginning.


There is no 7 year covenant. The last week of the 70 weeks started when John the Baptist was called, 3 1/2 years later the cross happened, 3 1/2 years after that the vision in Acts:10 took place and right after that peter started to teach Gentiles about God.


The overspreading of abominations was the return of the money changers, blood sacrifices for sin and the killing of Stephen. The referencer to Daniel in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 are for a verse from Daniel 11.

Da:11:31:
And arms shall stand on his part,
and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength,
and shall take away the daily sacrifice,
and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.


Satan has since the garden, that is why Re:12 covers 3 events where he does just that.


Okay.


That is what Satan does, men can't even get past the 'not dieing' thing.


Satan, not a man.


Satan, not a man.


Today (since Luke:21:24) prayer has been the method of repenting, in the 4 days the witnesses are dead Satan will be demanding worship, God kills the 7,000 (Re:11) that would be the first to take the mark and worship Satan and the 'image' (false Throne)

Pretty much a tent in that he only has 3 1/2 days, that is why the false throne (image in Re:13) is constructed and then brought to the city because there would be no time to build it.

Da:11:45:
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain;
yet he shall come to his end,
and none shall help him.

no. it has to be a true temple. ya can't desecrate a fake!

Somehow I don't think the two witnesses would be doing their duty if they let that happen. That is why God had Rome dismantle the one that was there in 70AD, just so Satan couldn't use it. Which verse are you specifically referencing?

Mathew 25:15

oops, typo ,meant 24:15

I'm agreeing with what you say about the characteristics of the antichrist, one world ruler.
Am puzzling over the 9th characteristic: Rev 17:14... please explain how you get out of this verse that this will be a socialistic/communistic system? Of course it will be, but this verse just doesn't say that for me. Do explain.

I had never noticed in Rev 17:8 that he was, is and will come.... very good... had never really thought about that...had read it hundreds of times, but was concentrating on other things. Very good
Please explain about Rev 17;14-- to me that verse just means that all these powerful nations will turn on Jesus when He returns and His holy ones --an incredible verse showing how when they see Him coming, they will try to kill Him... again! I don't see anything political there---can't see the socialism or communism. Of course, all tyrants have always been "progressive" (communistic/marxist in idealogy) and of course the antichrist will be, but that verse doesn't say that to me

P.S. me again:
on Rev 17: 8 "that HE WAS and IS NOT and WILL COME" and
again Rev 17:11 "and the beast which WAS and IS NOT" I have always assumed that was referring to the fatal head wound ...therefore HE WAS (he was alive) and IS NOT (then he temporarily died from his head wound) and then WILL COME back to life from his fatal head wound. of course that could fit your statement that he will rule, be removed from power (because of the head wound), then resume power and rise back up.

haven't read the whole thread, but where does it say the A/C will be loved by everyone?

It's says (if memory serves) that all will be made to worship the beast...Not the A/C...Even if they are one and the same in the context of that passage, it doesn't say people will do it willingly.

All will wonder after the Beast...again...not the same as adoration.

I'm not seeing that he'll be greatly loved...greatly feared, maybe.

Well SOMEBODY...maybe like George Soros.... will have to love him or be confident that he is very popular in the beginning of his power (think obama).... obama is adored, and it isn't a stretch to visualize him as antichrist--that adoration may change to fear...but not likely, for the people who adore him now may continue to do so in the future, even if he does turn out to be the antichrist

I would put that verse as being during the 3 days the two witnesses are dead in the streets of Jerusalem. The abomination would be the throne on holy ground rather than a building being worse. Even if the worship part is not done until the day the witnesses are raised that still leaves the 3 days and nights to put together a building and they could move big stones with ease.

The ones in Judea are Gentiles, the same ones that are passing back and forth. Anybody in Judea would be affected rather than it being Jews being addressed, only the 144,000 make it be be witnesses and the rest are resurrected after the city is destroyed. The quake that kills 7,000 would be when the deception is up and the Gentiles that see that are the ones that must run away without stopping for anything if they expect to make it to the nearest mountains before the city is destroyed. The 144,000 see it from the mountain at the north end of the Sea of Galilee where Moses and Elias and a transfigured Jesus were seem .

Re:11:9:
And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half,
and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

Re:11:12:
And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them,
Come up hither.
And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud;
and their enemies beheld them.
Re:11:13:
And the same hour was there a great earthquake,
and the tenth part of the city fell,
and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand:
and the remnant were affrighted,
and gave glory to the God of heaven.

M't:24:16:
Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
M't:24:17:
Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
M't:24:18:
Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
M't:24:19:
And woe unto them that are with child,
and to them that give suck in those days!
M't:24:20:
But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter,
neither on the sabbath day:
M't:24:21:
For then shall be great tribulation,
such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time,
no,
nor ever shall be.

The ones who repent and run fast will see events that follow the 7th trump sounding as being as Re:10 describes, the ones who have not repented when that trump sound will see all 7 vials poured out (Re:16)in just a few hours. By the end of that very day all sinners in the world are in the grave and anybody destined for life in the 1,000 years will be alive and in the same state Jesus was on the morning of His resurrection. To be glorified they will need to visit the river in Eze:47.

Re:11:14:
The second woe is past;
and,
behold,
the third woe cometh quickly.
Re:11:15:
And the seventh angel sounded;
and there were great voices in heaven,
saying,
The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord,
and of his Christ;
and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Re:18:8:
Therefore shall her plagues come in one day,
death,
and mourning,
and famine;
and she shall be utterly burned with fire:
for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Fear of death is his method of control. Rewards of material things is how he gathers followers.

M't:10:28:
And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

1. The antichrist will be a man - Daniel 7:24-25

i think the rev 17:8 refers to stints of power, but it could be more. my understanding is it refers to times of power position.

i think the scripture regarding communism is an error/typo. i am looking at it now.

As always, Salt you have the best threads. It makes me feel really bad about some of the stupid things I have posted on GLP. I pray that God will forgive me, and apologize to all of GLP.
This may be alittle off subject, but what do you think of St. Malachy, The Prophecy of the Popes. With Petrus Romanus or Peter the Roman being the last pope. Would like to know what you are anyone thinks on this. It is very interesting.

thanks for your compliments. what have you posted that is making you feel bad?

i would have to read up on the stuff you listed to post anything of merit. but, i can tell you that we are very very close to TSHF. for whatever that's worth, we should keep our eyes on pope activity and compare it to prophecy.