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Welfare lottery ban...NC residents upset

 
geminilion
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“We’re giving them welfare to help them live, and yet by selling them a ticket, we’re taking away their money that is there to provide them the barest of necessities,” Stam said.

I wonder how they would know who's on welfare? If I come in to the store to buy lottery tickets with cash there's no way to know if I am on welfare.

I don't think anyone getting public assistance should be gambling. Or, do some think a dollar and a dream should be for everyone?

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Last Edited by geminilion on 01/25/2013 01:37 PM
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
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Re: Welfare lottery ban...NC residents upset
we had the same approach here in germany, but it was ruled as being wrong by a high court.
the reason was, it would be a discrimination to parts of the population. and it could have been the start of a 2 class society, where some people had less rights. this would be unconstitutional.

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7491t9 Oh yeah I can just see some hassled 7/11 clerk checking all that out, with ten impatient customers wanting to pay and get out of the place.

The legislation is currently being drafted and would see all lottery ticket merchants refusing to sell to individuals who receive government assistance or who are going through bankruptcy.
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7491t9 Oh yeah I can just see some hassled 7/11 clerk checking all that out, with ten impatient customers wanting to pay and get out of the place.

The legislation is currently being drafted and would see all lottery ticket merchants refusing to sell to individuals who receive government assistance or who are going through bankruptcy.
 Quoting: Judethz


Yeah right? Would EBT card carriers have to get a special tattoo for identification?

I don't get how a store employee would know.
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
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:7491t9: Oh yeah I can just see some hassled 7/11 clerk checking all that out, with ten impatient customers wanting to pay and get out of the place.

The legislation is currently being drafted and would see all lottery ticket merchants refusing to sell to individuals who receive government assistance or who are going through bankruptcy.
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Yeah right? Would EBT card carriers have to get a special tattoo for identification?

I don't get how a store employee would know.
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Mark of the Beast.
It's coming.
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I agree
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Re: Welfare lottery ban...NC residents upset
7491t9 Oh yeah I can just see some hassled 7/11 clerk checking all that out, with ten impatient customers wanting to pay and get out of the place.

The legislation is currently being drafted and would see all lottery ticket merchants refusing to sell to individuals who receive government assistance or who are going through bankruptcy.
 Quoting: Judethz


Yeah right? Would EBT card carriers have to get a special tattoo for identification?

I don't get how a store employee would know.
 Quoting: geminilion


Mark of the Beast.
It's coming.
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Hey ya never know!
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Oh yeah I can just see some hassled 7/11 clerk checking all that out, with ten impatient customers wanting to pay and get out of the place.

The legislation is currently being drafted and would see all lottery ticket merchants refusing to sell to individuals who receive government assistance or who are going through bankruptcy.
 Quoting: Judethz


Yeah right? Would EBT card carriers have to get a special tattoo for identification?

I don't get how a store employee would know.
 Quoting: geminilion


Mark of the Beast.
It's coming.
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blinker I bet that over the next few years we start seeing a whole slew of stupid laws like this getting passed, then languishing in limbo because there is no practicable way of enforcing them...yet.
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I wonder how they would know who's on welfare? If I come in to the store to buy lottery tickets with cash there's no way to know if I am on welfare.

I don't think anyone getting public assistance should be gambling. Or, do some think a dollar and a dream should be for everyone?


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They will start requiring ID to buy lotto tickets maybe?
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7491t9 Oh yeah I can just see some hassled 7/11 clerk checking all that out, with ten impatient customers wanting to pay and get out of the place.

The legislation is currently being drafted and would see all lottery ticket merchants refusing to sell to individuals who receive government assistance or who are going through bankruptcy.
 Quoting: Judethz


Yeah right? Would EBT card carriers have to get a special tattoo for identification?

I don't get how a store employee would know.
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RFID and anyone named "Latanya"...see comments below article.
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people on welfare have debit cards and on wic ... that looks just like a large paper check
on the debit card it should be a ban to buy things like this

it should be for food and rent and electricity and water but some states pay that separately

so food and rent that is IT!
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when is the last time any of you have been in a casino?

find one near you and walk around and take a good look at the people

its sad!

many of them 'and you can tell' are on government assistance
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I live in NC and let me tell you this is not going to fly. First and most of all, it is a racist attempt to tighten the chains around our neck. Tell me, I cant do something, aint gonna be some, "yessir master"

Besides how will they know we are spending our money on tickets? We dont use EBT to purchase. So tell me, how will they know how I spend my monthly check?
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people on welfare have debit cards and on wic ... that looks just like a large paper check
on the debit card it should be a ban to buy things like this

it should be for food and rent and electricity and water but some states pay that separately

so food and rent that is IT!
 Quoting: luckylulu


does it state that in legal terms somewhere in black and white?

because if it doesn't

this is still a free country and a person can spend it on whatever they wish to live

it gets into this is just a bunch of control freaks

trying to pound on the little guy ; the poor
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It is easy to stop. Buy all they want, but you can't collect the prize. ID require and a check on a database would bring up a hit and prize confiscated to repay the welfare you recieved or prize collection denied. End of story.

Who they going to trust to go collect their prize/winnings?

Although I do know of a friend.who just collected on a lottery win for his sister and she gave him $700. She couldn't collect because she would lose her foodstamps and her portion of rent for section 8 would increase.

He told me he was issued a 1099 and it would be reported to the IRS, so he will pay the taxes on it. Thus the $700 payment he received for a $2500 prize. She gets $1800 in her pocket.
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I'm undecided about this. If they are going to ban people on welfare from buying lottery tickets, then why not ban them from buying other wasteful/harmful stuff such as booze, smoking, etc as well?
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I'm undecided about this. If they are going to ban people on welfare from buying lottery tickets, then why not ban them from buying other wasteful/harmful stuff such as booze, smoking, etc as well?
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It won't work. The only way to stop taxpayer funding of free booze, smokes and Escalades is to stop refilling those EBT cards. Cutting off the Welfare is the only way. As long as we're giving them money in any form, the abuse will continue.
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“We’re giving them welfare to help them live, and yet by selling them a ticket, we’re taking away their money that is there to provide them the barest of necessities,” Stam said.

I wonder how they would know who's on welfare? If I come in to the store to buy lottery tickets with cash there's no way to know if I am on welfare.

I don't think anyone getting public assistance should be gambling. Or, do some think a dollar and a dream should be for everyone?

New York:


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 Quoting: geminilion



The DHS has a ledger and database for anyone who receives government aid.
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Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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I'm undecided about this. If they are going to ban people on welfare from buying lottery tickets, then why not ban them from buying other wasteful/harmful stuff such as booze, smoking, etc as well?
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Rather then poking the hornets nest, douse it with gasoline for a week and let the sun work it's magic.
My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
geminilion (OP)
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It is easy to stop. Buy all they want, but you can't collect the prize. ID require and a check on a database would bring up a hit and prize confiscated to repay the welfare you recieved or prize collection denied. End of story.

Who they going to trust to go collect their prize/winnings?

Although I do know of a friend.who just collected on a lottery win for his sister and she gave him $700. She couldn't collect because she would lose her foodstamps and her portion of rent for section 8 would increase.

He told me he was issued a 1099 and it would be reported to the IRS, so he will pay the taxes on it. Thus the $700 payment he received for a $2500 prize. She gets $1800 in her pocket.
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Yes indeed..if a win is big enough to report taxes DSS will be looking for some dough. Most just have someone else turn the ticket in.
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
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I'm undecided about this. If they are going to ban people on welfare from buying lottery tickets, then why not ban them from buying other wasteful/harmful stuff such as booze, smoking, etc as well?
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Technically if you are getting cash assistance you can do whatever you want with it. Once you get your cash out of the ATM there's no way to tell what one is spending money on.
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
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I live in NC and let me tell you this is not going to fly. First and most of all, it is a racist attempt to tighten the chains around our neck. Tell me, I cant do something, aint gonna be some, "yessir master"

Besides how will they know we are spending our money on tickets? We dont use EBT to purchase. So tell me, how will they know how I spend my monthly check?
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Tack up another use for drones.
My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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Tack up another use for drones.
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cruise
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
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Tack up another use for drones.
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The 35k drones that were released this summer for the various police departments. They have a purpose. Which is to monitor. Is it too much to believe they'll be monitoring ATM machines?
My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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Don't know what the big deal is the money just going back to the goverment to pay for schooling
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First of all, the state or the county needs to take said welfare benefits and use it to pay each recipients rent and lights or gas for their heat. That way they know the money is being put to good use,period.

They already take the low income Energy Assistance checks that ppl get and put it towards their lights or gas bill to keep lights and heat on. They started doing this a couple yrs ago. I think it's a good idea.

They should never see a dime of that money but they could be mailed receipts saying that such and such bill has been paid and they are current.
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If Tyron wants lottery tickets, smokes and booze, then he needs to get a job and pay for it out of his own hard earned money. It is not the tax payers responsibility to pay for your lifestyle.
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If Tyron wants lottery tickets, smokes and booze, then he needs to get a job and pay for it out of his own hard earned money. It is not the tax payers responsibility to pay for your lifestyle.
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If they win big then take whatever they costed taxpayers out of the winnings.
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If they win big then take whatever they costed taxpayers out of the winnings.
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You could do that,too. But they would scream discrimination! Just like they all fucking do, case in point see above at Tyron! They think we owe them something. Fuck him. He
s a man, let him get a job and stop living off his gf.

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