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99% of Preppers are NOT PREPARED for a SHTF SCENARIO!

 
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No one knows what tshtf scenario will be and there is no way to predict it.

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OP is right; most are not mentally prepared. I don't even pretend to be, but having read this book my eyes are open a bit wider.

I just posted a thread on the free download.

Beyond Collapse has a huge amount of 'what if' scenarios that are discussed in detail with alternative solutions that will enable you to either predetermine what you would do in a given situation or know when to change your course of action based on available information. Plus many great prepping concepts in detail with references.

The author of the 256 page book for sale on Amazon for $19.00+, T. Joseph Miller, is now giving away free downloads.

Check it out; download info is about halfway down the page.


[link to www.shtfplan.com]

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No more anger.

When one realizes and has seen the pure love and joy that we are supposed to have as a reality- they tend to not care about fighting to the bitter end.

I am not a Christian- but I will not kill another in defence.
To me- that is the big taboo. Your own life is YOUR OWN LIFE. To be used or ended as you see fit- no one else.

But if a person professes to be a Christian?
They would not kill.
Period.

Why are you so attached to living a shit survivalist life when what is waiting for you is so glorious?

Geez...we all have been playing this game for eternity!

Remember- "It's Just a Ride"

(Hope ur havin fun Bill)

Namaste!
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If you're in survival mode, you're not keeping your eye on the ball. If you're a survival prepper, they've already beat you.
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No more anger.

When one realizes and has seen the pure love and joy that we are supposed to have as a reality- they tend to not care about fighting to the bitter end.

I am not a Christian- but I will not kill another in defence.
To me- that is the big taboo. Your own life is YOUR OWN LIFE. To be used or ended as you see fit- no one else.

But if a person professes to be a Christian?
They would not kill.
Period.

Why are you so attached to living a shit survivalist life when what is waiting for you is so glorious?

Geez...we all have been playing this game for eternity!

Remember- "It's Just a Ride"

(Hope ur havin fun Bill)

Namaste!
 Quoting: Boypony


So you see a mother and child being attacked by a larger predator.
Do you defend them?

If you defend them do you merely defend against the strikes or do you strike?

If you have to take the life of the predator to defend and preserve the lives of the weaker ones, do you?

Nothing glorious about it.
This is stark reality in many places around the world right now and it could be the scenario in many more places.
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What a 'pussy parade'...telling!

out
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That will be the reality alright. Your right.

Some of us already have excaped the cities and live in remote locations and have a group organized that will come together when shit happens.

Yes there will be hard choices to be made when the time comes and in different situations.

One thing for sure though. I won't be checking myself out. Against the rules Pal.

As hard as it may get you got to go with the flow and do your best. It only hurts for a second. What will be will be.

Last good struggle for life which is the prise in the first place. How soon we forget.
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I am a Woman also. Still won't do myself no matter what. Christian also but will protect myself and those around me. If you really think you go to hell for doing so then your really lost.

An eye for an eye. God does not condem anybody. We only condem ourselfs in the end.
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An Eye for an Eye?

Really?

You're gonna pull out Old Testament crap?

Guess y'all better start sacrificing goats and all that shit too.

Your a CHRISTian, remember?

Would Jesus whip out an AR15 to protect his disciples??
I doubt it.

Ever hear of "Turn the other cheek"???
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bullshit, medieval Europe was about as fundamentalist christian as you can get and European History is stuffed with violence and wars.
what you're talking about is the modern liberal pacifist interpretation of christianity.
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No more anger.

When one realizes and has seen the pure love and joy that we are supposed to have as a reality- they tend to not care about fighting to the bitter end.

I am not a Christian- but I will not kill another in defence.
To me- that is the big taboo. Your own life is YOUR OWN LIFE. To be used or ended as you see fit- no one else.

But if a person professes to be a Christian?
They would not kill.
Period.

Why are you so attached to living a shit survivalist life when what is waiting for you is so glorious?

Geez...we all have been playing this game for eternity!

Remember- "It's Just a Ride"

(Hope ur havin fun Bill)

Namaste!
 Quoting: Boypony


more bullshit, what is this will not kill period crap ?
you realise the bible now is merely a modern interpretation of what the clergy want it to be and that the medieval clergy tweaked large parts of it to "rein in" their wayward christian baronial charges.
Siward
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So much for pure love and joy ...
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Bump

Come on you tough ass preppers!
No response?
Well that's telling......
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Why would anyone want to talk to you? You won't prepare for a disaster. You think the government will save you and if it is too bad.. You are just going to eat a bullet. Sorry OD on tofu. Unlike belief in aliens you don't believe in guns. :)

I know a lot of people that are going to feed their neighbors glad you raen't going to be one of them.
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This is for all of you preppers who like to think you are ready for when the SHTF.

So you think you're prepared for the worst, eh?

Got those seeds and BOB all ready?

Guns & Ammo? Check.

Stored food/water? Check.

Well guess what?

NONE of it will do you any good in a real SHTF scenario.

First-
Are you guys really sure you want to live in a world where you & your family are being hunted and killed like insects???


And don't give me that "I got my BOB and my water filter and my Boy Scout book" shit......cause in a true SHTF scenario the only possible way to survive is to be a part of a SERIOUSLY organized military stlye camp with heavy firepower and 24 hour perimeter guards, medical skills,mass storage of supplies and most importantly-

THE COLD HEARTED MIND OF A KILLER.

Because you'll have to murder those poor starving families that try to steal your shit or join your compound when you already don't have enough for yourselves.

And you don't want to use gunfire unless ABSOLUTELY necessary, because it draws attention to you and ammo is precious.

So are you ready to be covered in blood after cutting the throats of those poor fuckers just desperate for food????

THAT'S REALITY.

Hope you're not Christian- cause I don't think
"That's what Jesus would do". And a real Christian cannot justify murder by using the "protecting my family" excuse.

Have you ever watched anyone die from getting their throat cut?
Hope you can sleep with that image in your mind!

All you "preppers" who think you're all ready for the apocalypse are in for a big surprise.

You'll never survive buggin out with your family! As soon as anyone sees you or hears gunfire from your hunting- you become a target.

And a 30-06 deer rifle with a good scope will pick you and your kids off one at a time and there will be NOTHING you can do about it!

Then the fuckers will come steal your shit.

Sound like a great life?

Fuck That.

I'll be humanely checking myself out before that happens and crossing over to the Glory that is TRUE REALITY that lies behind this fucked up shit we have now.

Namaste-
-Boypony
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propoganda
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the push is one to convince everyone to rely on the system.....

LOL...nice try shill boy
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the push is one to convince everyone to rely on the system.....

LOL...nice try shill boy
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'on'
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Most people envisage a scenerio like Dawn of the Dead.
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OP is a Coward.

And their is a special place in hell for his kind.
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OP is a Coward.

And their is a special place in hell for his kind.
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he'll be tossed into the lake of fire along with dirt bag and the court jester.
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Bump

Come on you tough ass preppers!
No response?
Well that's telling......
 Quoting: Boypony


Humanity have survived asteroid strikes.

Humanity has survived Dinosaurs.

Humanity has survived plagues, and waves.

Where there is a will, there is a way, and all you really need is a knife, para cord, and mostly a firm mind, body, and spirit, and a Human can overcome anything.

Yours is a fear of death ultimately. You mind runs around thinking of all the ways to die.

You have already defeated yourself.

If you mind runs on how to survive, no matter what, no matter where, and is ready, that is all one can do, and nothing beyond that is going to make any difference anyway.

A virus could be released, and only a few people that have certain mutations survive. All those that prepped, and all those were alive, would not be there anyway, and there might not be another person for 50 miles.

What then but survive until you die, however long that may be. Humans overcome, adapt, very quickly under stress, as all the sciences show, and our DNA as well.

Bugger off quitter.
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I think most would be aware that their would be lots of violence going on.... I am prepared to do whatever it takes as long as i abide universal law, or i will die trying.

Thats IF, things where to get to that stage.
Im more inclined to believe people would come together and think of an alternative to get past the times, rather than slitting each other throats. I think the biggest area of violence would be the government imposing ...... on the people.
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I think most would be aware that their would be lots of violence going on.... I am prepared to do whatever it takes as long as i abide universal law, or i will die trying.

Thats IF, things where to get to that stage.
Im more inclined to believe people would come together and think of an alternative to get past the times, rather than slitting each other throats. I think the biggest area of violence would be the government imposing ...... on the people.
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If the food supply stop people will go ape mate.
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Do us a favor when you snuff yourself and do it in a big freezer.
That way at least you'll be of some use to somebody.
We don't all think we'll make it, but some of us are sure as hell gonna try.
You're a cowardly little shit and if you have a wife and kids you're a serious pos.
I have minimal preps, minimal firepower but a whole heap of fucking willpower.
Grow a pair...
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My question to OP is, if the other side is so awesome as you say, what are you waiting for? This side is not gonna get better and you already made your choice so...

Unless your not only a coward for wanting to check out when things gets rough, but also a coward for not checking out right now.

If life after SHTF is not worth living, i doubt in your mind life before is not worth that much more.

So?
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The funniest part about all this prepper bullshit to me though, is how they are in large part are made up of paranoid, and out of shape military wannabes. I mean of course you got a couple serious folks mixed in there but I find it funny how no one ever emphasizes the importance of keeping in good physical condition in the off chance that you have to abandon all your junk because you're big sweet 'tacticool' rifle just jammed and won't fire.

I mean do they think that all that crap they bring along with them is going to help if you have to do something people aren't too familiar with these days...a thing called running?

And to be honest, I too would focus a lot more on the cool and entertaining things like guns if I could afford such luxurious items. However, being that all I have is my body, mind, and a knife, I figure that I may just have to make due with that if anything happens to occur in the near future.

In my mind you are in pretty poor shape if you cannot run a mile or bench press your own weight a few times....

So to all you preppers who haven't already, GET YOUR FATASSES ON A TREADMILL!!!
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some saliva just ran down the side of my mouth reading your post op, i think im ready to go.
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I agree the only preps you really need is a good knowledge of your environment and survival skills all those preppers are trying to continue in a manner they have become used to those that will actually survive and thrive are those prepared to adapt from day one and move away from the old system imagine 10 mths down the line and your provisions are gone , they will be the ones left behind as most who haven't died will already be adapted to a new reality the preppers will be playing catch up in other words make sure you have written knowledge as in books they are the only preps you need imho
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This is for all of you preppers who like to think you are ready for when the SHTF.

So you think you're prepared for the worst, eh?

Got those seeds and BOB all ready?

Guns & Ammo? Check.

Stored food/water? Check.

Well guess what?

NONE of it will do you any good in a real SHTF scenario.

First-
Are you guys really sure you want to live in a world where you & your family are being hunted and killed like insects???


And don't give me that "I got my BOB and my water filter and my Boy Scout book" shit......cause in a true SHTF scenario the only possible way to survive is to be a part of a SERIOUSLY organized military stlye camp with heavy firepower and 24 hour perimeter guards, medical skills,mass storage of supplies and most importantly-

THE COLD HEARTED MIND OF A KILLER.

Because you'll have to murder those poor starving families that try to steal your shit or join your compound when you already don't have enough for yourselves.

And you don't want to use gunfire unless ABSOLUTELY necessary, because it draws attention to you and ammo is precious.

So are you ready to be covered in blood after cutting the throats of those poor fuckers just desperate for food????

THAT'S REALITY.

Hope you're not Christian- cause I don't think
"That's what Jesus would do". And a real Christian cannot justify murder by using the "protecting my family" excuse.

Have you ever watched anyone die from getting their throat cut?
Hope you can sleep with that image in your mind!

All you "preppers" who think you're all ready for the apocalypse are in for a big surprise.

You'll never survive buggin out with your family! As soon as anyone sees you or hears gunfire from your hunting- you become a target.

And a 30-06 deer rifle with a good scope will pick you and your kids off one at a time and there will be NOTHING you can do about it!

Then the fuckers will come steal your shit.

Sound like a great life?

Fuck That.

I'll be humanely checking myself out before that happens and crossing over to the Glory that is TRUE REALITY that lies behind this fucked up shit we have now.

Namaste-
-Boypony
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Typical American....gotta have your guns.....
Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regiment to keep my mind limber.
:Dudeism:
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Humanity has survived Dinosaurs.

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Erm, are you retarded?
Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regiment to keep my mind limber.
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That will be the reality alright. Your right.

Some of us already have excaped the cities and live in remote locations and have a group organized that will come together when shit happens.

Yes there will be hard choices to be made when the time comes and in different situations.

One thing for sure though. I won't be checking myself out. Against the rules Pal.

As hard as it may get you got to go with the flow and do your best. It only hurts for a second. What will be will be.

Last good struggle for life which is the prise in the first place. How soon we forget.
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Really?
Whose rules say that?
So I guess Grandma needs to be a veg on life support after all!

I personally have seen the other side......and staying here cause you're a chicken shit afraid to die isn't being "brave"......that's the cowardly thing IMHO.

It takes alot of balls to CHOOSE the time and place of your "death". Only the ones who KNOW what lies beyond have lost the fear of death and have no qualms about doing the right thing when the time is right.

Religitards only "have faith"...they don't KNOW!

Reality is SO much more than this!!!!

Imagine having bad cataracts for years and years and finally having them fixed......now multiply that x 1,000. That isn't even close to describing what waits for us. And if it comes down to feeding myself dirt sammich's....????

I'm outta here.
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Maybe you can choose the time an place of your own death to be like, right now. Leave the preppers alone, if they want to survive, its their own business and you sir, really dont have anything to say about it.
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If anyone wants a good preview of modern SHTF scenarios, read Selco's story at shtfplan, or Ferfal's story, google will lead you there. I believe Ferfal's version will be closer to North America's, as we have not had military fighting here, so there is not much loose ordnance available.
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Bump

Come on you tough ass preppers!
No response?
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Sorry. We are just setting back watching this lame ass defeatist say how he's going to wimp out before the going gets tough.

....what a coward!
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Yeah, reality sucks.

We're filled with SHIT from the media to take us away from reality, take Scott of the Antartic for example, selfless sacrifice?....murder more like!

The apocolypse will be the disintegration of society as we know it along with the MEDIA, therefore reality will shine through NOT bullshit.

And is it any wonder the MEDIA fills us with fantasy?....cos we're all desperately trying to escape from reality, as it's is so hard and cruel, it's the beast under your bed.

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