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BEYOND COLLAPSE --free book download --sells for $19 on Amazon (most are not mentally prepared for SHTF)
A current thread, Thread: 99% of Preppers are NOT PREPARED for a SHTF SCENARIO! brings up a valid point: that many have not mentally prepared for hard times that are very possibly on the horizon, and this could result in a great deal of needless misery or even your early demise.

This book, Beyond Collapse has a huge amount of 'what if' scenarios that are discussed in detail with alternative solutions that will enable you to either predetermine what you would do in a given situation or know when to change your course of action based on available information. Plus many great prepping concepts in detail with references.

The author of the 256 page book for sale on Amazon for $19.00+, T. Joseph Miller, is now giving away free downloads.

Check it out; download info is about halfway down the page.


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A note from author TJ Miller:

The reason I’m giving the book away is two-fold.

First, I want as many people to be aware of what’s coming, and to prepare for it. I don’t need to become a wealthy man in order for that to happen, so I gave it away in addition to having it printed. The second reason has to do with the fact that I really cannot tolerate having vital information being locked behind “digital rights management” and other crap. If it gets passed around, it gets passed around.
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exact opposite is going to happen , star trek style utopian earth !!
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exact opposite is going to happen , star trek style utopian earth !!
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That would certainly be preferable! How do you envision this happening?
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exact opposite is going to happen , star trek style utopian earth !!
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That would certainly be preferable! How do you envision this happening?
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exact opposite is going to happen , star trek style utopian earth !!
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That would certainly be preferable! How do you envision this happening?
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increase in lifespan to 200yrs -Telomere Rejuvenation ,CR

extreme tech innovations make life easy but competitive

moon base . asteroid mining -DSI, Planetry resourses

this is what actually going to happen
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While possible, not the likely outcome with the morans we have leading us
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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exact opposite is going to happen , star trek style utopian earth !!
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That would certainly be preferable! How do you envision this happening?
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


increase in lifespan to 200yrs -Telomere Rejuvenation ,CR

extreme tech innovations make life easy but competitive

moon base . asteroid mining -DSI, Planetry resourses

this is what actually going to happen
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But can it happen soon enough? I don't see our world leaders making much progress with those things, other than maybe for themselves. They don't seem to be the type that will share anything of theirs.
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Re: BEYOND COLLAPSE --free book download --sells for $19 on Amazon (most are not mentally prepared for SHTF)
more about book from link:

TJ takes a different approach to the ‘problem’ of surviving when the system as we know it falls apart.

Sure, you can stock up food, and guns and thousands of dollars worth of other supplies – but if that’s your entire plan, then you’re going to be in serious trouble, especially if we’re talking about a paradigm shift spanning years or decades.

Supplies eventually run out and Murphy’s law often turns the best laid plans into catastrophe. If you haven’t taken the time to explore all of the possibilities and how you may deal with them as they happen, then in all likelihood you will be, as TJ notes in his book, “as good as dead and/or exploited.”
"Who decides?"
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"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"
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Thank you for posting this info OP.
I saved it.Will look at it later when I have some free time.
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Thanks OP, can't wait to read it.
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rubbish, there is no shit hitting any fan ever - peeps keep saying this shit and it ain't gonna happen trust me
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oh yes, we can be prepared for everything...wtf
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exact opposite is going to happen , star trek style utopian earth !!
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That would certainly be preferable! How do you envision this happening?
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


increase in lifespan to 200yrs -Telomere Rejuvenation ,CR

extreme tech innovations make life easy but competitive

moon base . asteroid mining -DSI, Planetry resourses

this is what actually going to happen
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Not one chance in hell
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rubbish, there is no shit hitting any fan ever - peeps keep saying this shit and it ain't gonna happen trust me
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I'm sure there were at least 1 or 2 that were led into Hitler's gas showers said/thought the same!

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exact opposite is going to happen , star trek style utopian earth !!
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That would certainly be preferable! How do you envision this happening?
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


increase in lifespan to 200yrs -Telomere Rejuvenation ,CR

extreme tech innovations make life easy but competitive

moon base . asteroid mining -DSI, Planetry resourses

this is what actually going to happen
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33010190


Your not wrong at all, just the timing. I assume. The timing doesn't look soon for what you described.
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oh yes, we can be prepared for everything...wtf
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No, we can't. All we can do is try to do what we feel is reasonably possible and pray for the best.
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More from the author on what this book is about (it's different from most survival manuals)

"Most of all, I want this book to do more than just help the individual survive. It takes a community to rebuild civilization, and that community is going to need help and at least some practical guidance.

Unlike most survival/preparation resources, we’re going to assume that civilization will break down completely, and will likely take at least a century or more to return to the level it is now.

In such a situation, that electrical generator which too many experts recommend will end up being a glorified lawn ornament (unless of course you feel like making/storing an ocean of fuel and storing a mountain of spare parts…)

The idea of having a small backyard garden is a good start, but it’s not going to feed you and your family all by itself.

Expensive water filters are a good convenience while things are all chaotic, but eventually the filter elements are going to wear out, and you’re stuck with having to make your own clean water from then on. Solar panels can work for up to and beyond three decades, but the inverter, batteries, and electronics you plug into it probably won’t.

Anything that relies on batteries (even rechargeable ones) are guaranteed to be worthless once the battery chemicals wear out, and there are no more to be had.

Guns? A good idea for the more chaotic times, but eventually the bullets will run out, leaving you (and everyone else) with, at best, a bunch of clumsy clubs made from steel and wood.

Any advice that relies on buying and storing something should only be counted as either temporary, or the (sometimes literal) seeds of renewable items, be it tools, weapons, or wheat. Some items will be vital in spite of their being temporary, but some will help you make a permanent means of living long-term after it all settles down."

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5*s and green thumbs!

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exact opposite is going to happen , star trek style utopian earth !!
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HUH???
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rubbish, there is no shit hitting any fan ever - peeps keep saying this shit and it ain't gonna happen trust me
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Thanks for posting, OP!! Looks like a good book so far :)
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It's an interesting book, but from a brief look through the ultimate goal of the guide is to rebuild civilisation to essentially how it is now.

Surely that's the problem?

If I was heading up a society starting from scratch, there'd definitely be no money involved - that's at the root of everything that's wrong now.
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It's an interesting book, but from a brief look through the ultimate goal of the guide is to rebuild civilisation to essentially how it is now.

Surely that's the problem?

If I was heading up a society starting from scratch, there'd definitely be no money involved - that's at the root of everything that's wrong now.
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I guess if you were rebuilding, you'd do it pretty much however you thought best.

I doubt if it would even be possible to rebuild it exactlyhow it is now; many contributing factors of today's civilization wouldn't exist and there would be other unknown factors to consider.

The book's usefulness seems to be that it provides a basic guide on how to look at many different elements of civilization and then pick and choose how and what you'd want to accomplish.

Last Edited by Ralph--a house dog on 01/25/2013 07:44 PM
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"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"
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thanks for ythe heads-up on the free download

how's ralph handling all this doom and glooom
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exact opposite is going to happen , star trek style utopian earth !!
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That would certainly be preferable! How do you envision this happening?
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


increase in lifespan to 200yrs -Telomere Rejuvenation ,CR

extreme tech innovations make life easy but competitive

moon base . asteroid mining -DSI, Planetry resourses

this is what actually going to happen
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dream on!

you indians are always suckers for technology, don't they teach you anything else in bombay other than how to be engineering monkeys?

advanced tech is not for the masses but you can have your android and become one in the process.
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If SHTF I'll happily take my early exit than living like a fucking cave man until I get killed by some group of mercenaries trying to steal all the shit I wasted my life collecting.
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Al-Qaeda's leaders expect that the sun will soon rise in the west, as cosmic forces affect the Earth's orbit.

In that case, it would be handy to have the book "Uriel's Machine" by Knight and Lomas. It explains how a neolithic observatory such as Stone Henge works to establish a new calendar in these circumstances. This will be important for planting crops etc. You won't have to rebuild stone henge, simple posts in the ground will do.

New Jerusalem Russ will be of no help.
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A current thread, Thread: 99% of Preppers are NOT PREPARED for a SHTF SCENARIO! brings up a valid point: that many have not mentally prepared for hard times that are very possibly on the horizon, and this could result in a great deal of needless misery or even your early demise.

This book, Beyond Collapse has a huge amount of 'what if' scenarios that are discussed in detail with alternative solutions that will enable you to either predetermine what you would do in a given situation or know when to change your course of action based on available information. Plus many great prepping concepts in detail with references.

The author of the 256 page book for sale on Amazon for $19.00+, T. Joseph Miller, is now giving away free downloads.

Check it out; download info is about halfway down the page.


[link to www.shtfplan.com]
[link to docs.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


I CAN SEE AT 19 DOLLARS A SHOT HE IS GOING BE WELL PREPARED HOLD SOME OF YOUR PAPER MONEY WHAT YOU SAVE IS WHAT YOU HAVE WHEN IT GOES ASS UP.
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If the book is as bad as the post you refered to i doubt its worth reading =)
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thanks for ythe heads-up on the free download

how's ralph handling all this doom and glooom
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I don't want doom! Thanks for asking--I'm trying to learn how to do more things, even if it is just a smattering of a skill but I collect books, downloads on thumb drive on how-to stuff, too. Improving skills I do have.

Networking, meeting people, trying to stay in good health. Clearing out clutter, always trying to finally get organized.

Most important to me is making sure those close to me are ok and not depressed or having anxiety attacks or in total denial.

Staying balanced is not easy---carrying onward and planning for the future as usual while in the background preparing for a possible not so good future. I look at it as insurance.

How about you? My impression is that Canadians might have a bit less gloomy doom, but I suppose it depends on the circumstances.
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Awesome post..this really shows that this author is genuinely concerned with our recuperation after the fall of the democracy in this country. I dread the precedence of recent and near future government going-ons...but I will be damned if I am going to sit by silently while they run my country that I fought 8 years of combat and have spent the last 4 years educating people to protect. You fucked up sending the sons of this nation to war, TPTB...because now we are the sons of liberty come against you and all tyranny. My only suggestion this time is we don't stop with America but rid the whole world of it, lest we or any other nation saved from the cold grasp of tyranny be incrementally aswayed back into it like we have.

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