WTF?? - China Missile Test Successfully Sinks Simulated US Aircraft Carrier!! | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8928481 Canada 01/25/2013 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PLA 'sinks' US carrier in DF-21D missile test in Gobi Quoting: DoorBert The People's Liberation Army has successfully sunk a US aircraft carrier, according to a satellite photo provided by Google Earth, reports our sister paper Want Daily — though the strike was a war game, the carrier a mock-up platform and the "sinking" occurred on dry land in a remote part of western China. A satellite image reveals two large craters on a 200-meter-long white platform in the Gobi desert used to simulate the flight deck of an aircraft carrier. The photo was first posted on SAORBATS, an internet forum based in Argentina. Military analysts believed the craters would have been created by China's DF-21D anti-ship missile, dubbed the "carrier killer." [link to www.wantchinatimes.com] US would sink their whole country in the same way, 2 big fucking craters |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26885962 United States 01/25/2013 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means absolutely nothing, who cares. Was the simulation done with the US using laser weapons as defense? [link to www.scienceworldreport.com] What about all the technology we don't even have a clue about. Yes, even your Uncle or "GLP insiders" who think you know everything don't. The tech you actually see is at least 40-50 years behind what is shown to the public and even those with high level military security clearance. Everything is compartmentalized. Fuck China and this unrealistic bullshit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33027468 United States 01/25/2013 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20253056 America probably has space based lasers that could pick off that rocket easily. If China are stupid enough to think this will work, they deserve to get their asses kicked. I think they are trolling. The Chinese have the capability to take those out, along with the satellites the high tech weapons of the U.S. rely upon. Then it becomes toe to toe. Read what happened at the river in Korea when the the U.S. pushed up against it. The biggest U.S. retreat in history up to that point in time. And btw.... the so-called space weaponry of the U.S. was unable to take out the satellite killer the Chinese used in 2008. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26885962 United States 01/25/2013 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20253056 America probably has space based lasers that could pick off that rocket easily. If China are stupid enough to think this will work, they deserve to get their asses kicked. I think they are trolling. The Chinese have the capability to take those out, along with the satellites the high tech weapons of the U.S. rely upon. Then it becomes toe to toe. Read what happened at the river in Korea when the the U.S. pushed up against it. The biggest U.S. retreat in history up to that point in time. And btw.... the so-called space weaponry of the U.S. was unable to take out the satellite killer the Chinese used in 2008. Uhm the lasers are now being mounted on aircraft...not satellites. Two totally different things. You know all of the latest and greatest up to date tech that the military actually uses? If so a white van is parked outside your house now eavesdropping. Trust me you or I don't even have a clue. It stated in the article the missile DF-21D they used does not even have the capability to reach the west coast of the US. Kinda hilarious and comparing Korea, which was a proxy war how many decades ago to this is hilarious. Just please stop. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33027468 United States 01/25/2013 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You must only include yourself in this. You don't know what you don't know. Every now and then someone will drop in and drop a clue here and there. Usually very poorly received. Which is fine. Some day, no one will bother... to bother. And you will truly be on your own that day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8928481 Canada 01/25/2013 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: FatalW1shes because nuclear submarines are easily tracked from space. [link to www.liveleak.com] oh? |
davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 01/25/2013 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | china's messages to the usa grow ever more stern.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31781644 they don't seem the kind to just run their mouth aimlessly. ....and no one seems to notice much less care. maybe two years ago china warned the US to stop the reckless spending and stop printing money. all of the printing devalues the dollar making the chinese investments worth less and every dollar we owe them also becomes worth less. i can't blame them for being pissed. who i can blame are the damn creeps in washington. what are they thinking? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21903530 Canada 01/25/2013 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also the insurgents 40 year old weaponry is the hardiest equipment ever produced, no need to upgrade Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10771535 40 years old? They still use Lee-Enfields which made their appearance 112 years ago in the Boer war. The Boers had the 1898 Mauser which is also still in use today as a sniper rifle. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27526740 United States 01/25/2013 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20253056 America probably has space based lasers that could pick off that rocket easily. If China are stupid enough to think this will work, they deserve to get their asses kicked. I think they are trolling. This; the united states navy has high energy laser systems that would snipe a flying bullet out of the sky, let alone a thier so called carrier killer. Like previous posters said, thier simulation obviously never accounted for counter measures; but hey, whatever makes the Chinese feel uppity, shooting ducks in the water. How come a bunch of camel jockeys with 40 year old weaponry are kicking your butts all over the desert? Kicking our butts? Have you noticed the ratio of killed "camel jockeys" vs killed Americans? Every so often one of them rolls a nat 20 despite the gear advantage. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33020675 Germany 01/25/2013 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone can blow up dummy ships. Those missiles or torpedoes need to go through an entire armada of defense mechanisms before getting close to the carrier. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22151483 No problem with supersonic torpedos using supercavitation. [link to en.wikipedia.org] I heard Russians have that technology and also my people improved it. You can be sure the chinese are developing this technology too (or allready have it). No chance to hit a torpedo which is approaching with more than 1000 miles per hour. |
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Rinty User ID: 18164113 United States 01/25/2013 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (Letter published 8 years ago) Camden Conference Needs ‘Billy Mitchell’ After WW I an army aviator, Billy Mitchell, insisted aircraft could sink battle ships. This was something the military brass would not hear. Mitchell was ridiculed. Demonstrations were arranged. Mitchell was right. The brass had resisted the crucial. The brass currently resists seeing the new ease of sinking ships. Prior to the invasion of Iraq there was the most expensive war-game ever, $250,000,000. It was Iraq vs. America. Surprise, surprise…, Iraq won. This embarrassment would have been kept quiet, but it came out first in the very conservative Army Times. They saw the danger. Articles on the Internet will talk about the brilliance of the retired Lt. General Van Riper, USMC, who played Iraq. The articles discuss his ‘swarm attack’. They are, unfortunately, too cryptic about looming danger. True Van Riper is brilliant. However, sinking naval ships needs only will, not brilliance. On our present course American ships will sink. Just like the longbow, simple rearrangement of available weaponry will be decisive. Brassy knights resisted the longbow too. The thought of peasants taking out knights was ridiculous. How could just a longer bow pierce armor? “Sir Uppyhad, before you ride out there with your new armor I would suggest you see what Yeoman York here can do at eighty paces to your old armor.” Uppyhad listens or dies. It was an eye opener 25 years ago when the H.M.S. Sheffield, a British destroyer, was sunk in the Falkland War by a French missile. But back then the danger seemed to be only from modern navies; missiles launched from ships or planes. This quality of missile, now way over 20 years old, can be launched from the seabed, even hidden in the sand with pop-up launchers built from nothing but liquid vinyl and sawdust. Just a few other dummy targets would scramble the ship’s defenses. During the real Iraq invasion the navy pulled out the stops to counter this threat. If a satellite spotted a trawler hovering in the Gulf an underwater team would be sent to bottom scout. I spoke to one of those divers in the Norfolk, Virginia airport. He said they were under equipped and under manned. The doctors sent him on leave because of exhaustion. He readily admitted that if there were any attempt to disguise missiles underwater they would not be found. The Gulf seabed was also scouted with unmanned ‘Hydroid’ subs created by Ken Jordon associated with Woods Hole Oceanographic. They would plow back and forth with Sonar, visual and metal detectors. Sonar is only good to about four meters in the sand. Metal detectors would pick up any under seabed metal. Can you dig up everything? The Gunsten Hall is one of America’s naval ships usually transporting marines and equipment. After unloading the marines the skipper volunteered the ship for another mission. Some number of ‘Platoons’, but seven in each, of trained dolphins were scouting the bottom. More trainers were called in as they had a problem with “dolphin boredom”. There is no adequate defense. This threat needs enough exposure to effect the group mind. A demonstration off the coast would be enough exposure. This is a community of sea knowledge. Perhaps Camden can devise a test. Why not? We are already betting lives. This danger is just over the ability of a terrorist group, but well within reach of a Third World nation. Knox County should know. The Crown never expected that George Washington’s General Henry Knox would drag cannon through the snow from upstate New York with 400 oxen all the way to Boston to blast the Redcoats to hell. You bet. Last Edited by Rinty on 01/25/2013 08:36 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32995561 Canada 01/25/2013 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China could hack the drones computer systems, again. To use your own arms against you is the ultimate coup. New Evidence Suggests China's Hacking Into US Drones Using Adobe Reader And Internet Explorer [link to articles.businessinsider.com] Iran: Yes, We Hacked the U.S.'s Drone, and Here's How We Did It [link to www.dailytech.com] Then you have Obuma who seems not to be a friend of America. Breaking: We were right, Obama GAVE Iran the Drone! [link to www.conunderground.com] Whatever the overcome...It won't be good! Interesting times indeed!! |
Fuck the system User ID: 28951238 Ireland 01/25/2013 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | more bullshit propaganda, love the site but avoid your threads like the fuckin plague. I only clicked to write this. I get the same news from the propaganda tabloids. And the reason why I come to this site...for alternative news from credible sources and not the fuckin bullshit propaganda that comes from you. There's enough mass media spewing your shit. WHAT MAKES YOU DIFFERENT???????????????? look at your ratings!!!! I aint callin you a shill or nothin but I dont understand you. try help me understand, I know what glp is but I dont know your game Fuck the system |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30756886 United States 01/25/2013 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Carriers in 2020 will be like battleships in 1945. Huge wastes of money. The USA will have 50,000+ drones capable of carpet bombing china by the time anything serious goes down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32877937 But if they want to stragtegize the old war, more power to them. What, you don't think they have drones too? Dumbass |
AdHocBOHICA User ID: 32335824 United States 01/25/2013 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Carriers have been obsolete for quite a number of years in regards to Superpower bluewater navy warfare. Great post DB! “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
MHz User ID: 32332417 Canada 01/25/2013 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means absolutely nothing, who cares. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26885962 Was the simulation done with the US using laser weapons as defense? Why would that even fucking matter, you think they are any less advanced that Russian anti-ship missiles. [link to www.wired.com] The U.S. Navy can’t stop China’s most sophisticated anti-ship missile — and won’t even start testing a defense until 2014. "Most anti-ship cruise missiles fly below the speed of sound and on a straight path, making them easier to track and target," notes Bloomberg News‘ Tony Capaccio. Not China’s so-called "Sizzler" missile, already aboard eight Kilo-class submarines. The Sizzler starts at subsonic speeds. Within 10 nautical miles of its target, a rocket-propelled warhead separates and accelerates to three times the speed of sound, flying no more than 10 meters (33 feet) above sea level. On final approach, the missile ‘has the potential to perform very high defensive maneuvers,’ including sharp-angled dodges, the Office of Naval Intelligence said in a manual on worldwide maritime threats. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10771535 United States 01/25/2013 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also the insurgents 40 year old weaponry is the hardiest equipment ever produced, no need to upgrade Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10771535 40 years old? They still use Lee-Enfields which made their appearance 112 years ago in the Boer war. The Boers had the 1898 Mauser which is also still in use today as a sniper rifle. i was just using his wording in my post |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10771535 United States 01/25/2013 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone can blow up dummy ships. Those missiles or torpedoes need to go through an entire armada of defense mechanisms before getting close to the carrier. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22151483 No problem with supersonic torpedos using supercavitation. [link to en.wikipedia.org] I heard Russians have that technology and also my people improved it. You can be sure the chinese are developing this technology too (or allready have it). No chance to hit a torpedo which is approaching with more than 1000 miles per hour. fill a swathe of the sky with microwaves or some shit |
Saddletramp User ID: 1052341 Puerto Rico 01/25/2013 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well I bet the pile of pallets that they sank in the desert probably didn't have Aegis Defense System... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
PoppyCock User ID: 31958227 Canada 01/26/2013 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20253056 America probably has space based lasers that could pick off that rocket easily. If China are stupid enough to think this will work, they deserve to get their asses kicked. I think they are trolling. The Chinese have the capability to take those out, along with the satellites the high tech weapons of the U.S. rely upon. Then it becomes toe to toe. Read what happened at the river in Korea when the the U.S. pushed up against it. The biggest U.S. retreat in history up to that point in time. And btw.... the so-called space weaponry of the U.S. was unable to take out the satellite killer the Chinese used in 2008. First of all Mr 50 cent Party member [link to www.newstatesman.com] Unless America was at war with China it would not contemplate destroying a Chinese missile test against a Chinese satellite. Next time invite America to the party and you will see how easy it is to defeat your missiles. Second China did not declare war with America when they stormed through Korea during the Korean war and any future war will be nothing like Korea unless you want to fight a new war like you fought WWII. - Throw more people at the enemy than they have bullets. As far as knocking out space targets. You knocked out your own satellite that is hardly an achievement. its about as hard as finding you way home after a party. I say we should: 1) Cut China off the Internet so we eliminate cyber theft. 2) We apply a 50% import tax on all Chinese goods. End of Problem and End of Discussion about the problem. If China had the power to do anything right now they would use it - so they don't have the power. Some Chinese guy would not be arrested for trying to illegally purchase composites used to make 5-Gen fighters if China's jets were as good as America. Learn the hard way or don't learn at all. It makes no difference China full on its own propaganda will shoot itself in the foot and be relegated to the Third World country it is. |
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