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how the gov't steals land from the people
great article, must read


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Well, here you are again - Agenda 21.

In New Hampshire, the House of Representatives voted to ban UN Agenda 21 polices and prevent local, county and state governments from adopting the International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives (ICLEI) programs.

Representative Anne Cartwright stated: “I know it is totally against our Constitution from reading the UN biodiversity assessment. It’s through local initiative that it is being implemented in bits and pieces to erode our property rights.”

Cartwright believes ICLEI is attempting to remove individual property rights through sustainable development. She said: “They are very slowly implementing rules and regulations that have not reached a high level yet. They are implementing it through zoning, planning and regional planning things that impact our property rights.”


"We know it's against the constitution, but fuck it we're gonna do it anyhow." - a "representative" of the republic. I heard about ICLEI before and how dangerous it is. Slow and steady wins the race Fabian Socialism style.

Edit: maybe I spoke ill of the rep too soon. Courtesy of Pool here is another article about the UN driven ICKLEI agency:

[link to www.realnewsreporter.com]

NH voted against agenda 21. Here are some other states that are fighting the agenda:

In Kansas a resolution was approved that quashed Agenda 21 from taking over the state.

Tennessee also resolved an anti-Agenda 21 resolution that failed to receive Governor Bill Haslam’s signature.

The Arizona House of Representatives voted down a ban that resembles the NH ban.

Louisiana and Alabama have resolutions against Agenda 21 that are still under consideration.

Irving, Texas Mayor Beth Van Duyne and city manager Tommy Gonzalez pushed back by withdrawing membership from ICLEI.


Thanks Pool!
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Things are getting bad.

Pull your money out of the stock market, bank, 401k.

Get a personal loan and buy food, weapons and ammo.

Make sure your relationship with GOD and your testimony of Jesus is in good standing.
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President Obama, a big supporter of the UN’s Agenda 21 initiative, signed the executive order Establishing a White House Council on Strong Cities, Strong Communities where he outlined plans to partner with local communities and the US government to “provide them with comprehensive technical assistance to use and compete for Federal resources”.

Obama wants to gain governance over resources and implement US government objectives under the guise of suggestive communication with state and local governments. Simply put, when the US government provides the financial backing, they can create any outcome they desire. By using the cloak of sustainability and economic growth, the Obama administration is seeking to obtain voluntary control of our towns and cities from our local governments.


Bold emphasis is mine.

from the link I posted above.

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Things are getting bad.

Pull your money out of the stock market, bank, 401k.

Get a personal loan and buy food, weapons and ammo.

Make sure your relationship with GOD and your testimony of Jesus is in good standing.
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The government is trying to take everything we own. The above is good advice.

I read the other day in Mexico, people claim land by homesteading. Wish America was the way it was in the olden days.

These are scarey times...not just in America but globally.
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Things are getting bad.

Pull your money out of the stock market, bank, 401k.

Get a personal loan and buy food, weapons and ammo.

Make sure your relationship with GOD and your testimony of Jesus is in good standing.
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Also try to make as many trusted friends as possible. Strength in numbers!
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Even if you paid off your home loan, the bank couldn't give you the deed cause they don't have it, it's split up among many banks all over the place
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Re: how the gov't steals land from the people
Well, here you are again - Agenda 21.

In New Hampshire, the House of Representatives voted to ban UN Agenda 21 polices and prevent local, county and state governments from adopting the International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives (ICLEI) programs.

Representative Anne Cartwright stated: “I know it is totally against our Constitution from reading the UN biodiversity assessment. It’s through local initiative that it is being implemented in bits and pieces to erode our property rights.”

Cartwright believes ICLEI is attempting to remove individual property rights through sustainable development. She said: “They are very slowly implementing rules and regulations that have not reached a high level yet. They are implementing it through zoning, planning and regional planning things that impact our property rights.”


"We know it's against the constitution, but fuck it we're gonna do it anyhow." - a "representative" of the republic. I heard about ICLEI before and how dangerous it is. Slow and steady wins the race Fabian Socialism style.

Edit: maybe I spoke ill of the rep too soon. Courtesy of Pool here is another article about the UN driven ICKLEI agency:

[link to www.realnewsreporter.com]

NH voted against agenda 21. Here are some other states that are fighting the agenda:

In Kansas a resolution was approved that quashed Agenda 21 from taking over the state.

Tennessee also resolved an anti-Agenda 21 resolution that failed to receive Governor Bill Haslam’s signature.

The Arizona House of Representatives voted down a ban that resembles the NH ban.

Louisiana and Alabama have resolutions against Agenda 21 that are still under consideration.

Irving, Texas Mayor Beth Van Duyne and city manager Tommy Gonzalez pushed back by withdrawing membership from ICLEI.


Thanks Pool!
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another reason why Americans need to stockpile weapons, guns, reloading gear, etc.
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What a hyprocrital thread. Is it really the Government or prophecy be fulfilled? This country was built by STEALING in multiple ways, from multiple groups of people and everyone on this planet is aware of it. Karma? It's fair to be scare because the ancestors of the red, brown and black peoples were scared too. There is no wrong or right, but there is Cause and Effect to your actions in this world we live in, so...

Love peace joy
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There is no such thing as private property in the United States.

You own nothing, except for your mind and your body, and that is what the government is currently going after. Many could be said to no longer control and therefore no longer own their own minds and bodies.


You think you own your house? First of all, the bank owns it if you still have a mortgage.
Mortgage paid off? Paid cash in full for your house?

The government still owns it. You are a tenant, renting the property from the true owner, the government.

Stop paying your property taxes, and discover who truly owns your home and your land.

Same goes for "your" business, and "your" vehicle.


I no longer doubt massive revolution approaches. I do pray that when the dust settles, that righteous men and women will organize the next paradigm.
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You are slaves with pea shooters
You have no plan other than survival
Like an animal
You are powerless
Get used to it
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If this is because the properties were insured with Flood/Disaster Insurance which the Federal Government had insured, then this might not be so outrageous as it is on its face...

Although the Federal Government put the Flood Insurers out, and forced homeowners living in high risk flood and hurricane areas to insure with the .gov as the insurer...
Currently working on:
Bach: Invention No. 1
Joplin: Maple Leaf Rag
Mendelssohn: Tarantella Op.102 no.3
Mendelssohn: Venetian Boat Song Op. 19 no. 6 (both from 'Songs Without Words')
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Re: how the gov't steals land from the people
What a hyprocrital thread. Is it really the Government or prophecy be fulfilled? This country was built by STEALING in multiple ways, from multiple groups of people and everyone on this planet is aware of it. Karma? It's fair to be scare because the ancestors of the red, brown and black peoples were scared too. There is no wrong or right, but there is Cause and Effect to your actions in this world we live in, so...

Love peace joy
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And further actions will just have further actions and affects, such as taking stuff, and killing People now, because you think its going to atone fore something.

It will only repeat the cycle, and the ones truly ruling the Earth, which are probably not even Human, will continue to divide and conquer us, only to steal our resources and energy.

If that is what People want, that is what People will get, and their hardly will be anyone left, and most likely they will be a equal mix of races, color, etc, to start all over again, trying still to learn the same lesson.


Why repeat the foolishness, there is only one enemy of Humanity, and that is ourselves, and why we allow People to run our lives the way we have all these years.
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Re: how the gov't steals land from the people
Same in UK.

Agree with the above - take money out of banks and buy tangible supplies.

I work in big bank - got friend who works in civil service where they expected him to ride around on bike with list extracted from database of empty properties.

His task was to verify if people were living in non-council tax paying accommodation and either get them paying, or, find out if the property was owned by a live person.
If place empty and not claimed by anyone, council repossessed under old law that makes property theirs again.....

bump:bumpity:bump

then another person goes to value place for tax / sell off / rental and either way, starts to earn from find
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There is no such thing as private property in the United States.

You own nothing, except for your mind and your body, and that is what the government is currently going after. Many could be said to no longer control and therefore no longer own their own minds and bodies.


You think you own your house? First of all, the bank owns it if you still have a mortgage.
Mortgage paid off? Paid cash in full for your house?

The government still owns it. You are a tenant, renting the property from the true owner, the government.

Stop paying your property taxes, and discover who truly owns your home and your land.

Same goes for "your" business, and "your" vehicle.


I no longer doubt massive revolution approaches. I do pray that when the dust settles, that righteous men and women will organize the next paradigm.
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


Thanks for this.

I don't think people realize that they own nothing and are mere slaves and tenants to the power-lords.
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There is no such thing as private property in the United States.

You own nothing, except for your mind and your body, and that is what the government is currently going after. Many could be said to no longer control and therefore no longer own their own minds and bodies.


You think you own your house? First of all, the bank owns it if you still have a mortgage.
Mortgage paid off? Paid cash in full for your house?

The government still owns it. You are a tenant, renting the property from the true owner, the government.

Stop paying your property taxes, and discover who truly owns your home and your land.

Same goes for "your" business, and "your" vehicle.


I no longer doubt massive revolution approaches. I do pray that when the dust settles, that righteous men and women will organize the next paradigm.
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


Thanks for this.

I don't think people realize that they own nothing and are mere slaves and tenants to the power-lords.
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Yes, very valid point made. All but an illusion, to keep peace, for now. They have made the common man dependent, giving a false sense of security to many, all the while undermining the true virtues that make us human...
-then again, the masses greed and materialistic values lets them control, and is holding back, the shift, to the next paradigm, I believe...We'll come around, as a whole, it's the only way.
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Re: how the gov't steals land from the people
What a hyprocrital thread. Is it really the Government or prophecy be fulfilled? This country was built by STEALING in multiple ways, from multiple groups of people and everyone on this planet is aware of it. Karma? It's fair to be scare because the ancestors of the red, brown and black peoples were scared too. There is no wrong or right, but there is Cause and Effect to your actions in this world we live in, so...

Love peace joy
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Our government will/is slowly trying to take it all. And it all starts with guns. Once they confiscate guns, then they'll go after gold, silver, land, homes, all of it. Don't like? They'll throw you in a FEMA camp. No more phone calls. No more lawyers to bail you out......
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the owner of the land has to prove it in court against the other person in court to say they own it and must produce the paperwork...we all have the right to face our accuser in court...so we cannot be convicted of trespassing on federal land because the owner has to push the charge,,plead not guilty ,be your own lawyer and ask to face your accuser in court..good luck finding someone who owns govt land to sit across from you..after all they would ask you to prove you owned your property with your paperwork,right? yuk yuk yuk.
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Property DOESN'T belong to YOU ! It belongs to the town(s), all of which are corporations, like your state and federal governments.

READ the mortgage paper YOU SIGNED ! It says you are " a tenant " ( a person who occupies land or property RENTED from a LANDLORD." ) on the property, NOT an OWNER !

If you don't pay your taxes, see how quickly the town will seize it ! Just one MORE slight of hand the elite/PTB have pulled on the uneducated sheeple .

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ANOTHER thoughtful post, Black clax !

To PROVE your point, that is EXACTLY what the Federal Government DID in the late 1960s to get control of the school systems in every town/city in every state. Offer them MONEY for all kinds of 'improvements' until they were like drug addicts ... HOOKED on that extra money in their annual budgets, THEN started with their oversight/regulations/'guidance' till they WERE IN CONTROL, NOT the locals. I lived through it as a teacher from 1965 to 1985.

Wrong title, as the government/town/state already owns what you THINK you own. You 'bought it' but THEY NEVER relinquished CONTROL !

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if you think it's bad here try cambodia where gov can confiscate land to sell for their own pockets and jail the owners for protesting ( mostly women with children )





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