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Angel Helper User ID: 29337875 United States 01/26/2013 03:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Politicaly and philosphicaly i support free and open access to all substances and compounds by anyone with the resources to aquire them. Having said that, I am a stage III cancer fighter who is not using the western medicine system whatsoever. Including their painkillers. Those things suck. They did nothing for the considerable pain im in 24 hrs a day. The first few days were ok but after that unless i started upping administration intervals and dosing all the time, I couldent get any relief. Just the ghost of a shitty high sometimes. Of course doing just that leads to terrible addiction fast. Not to mention because I am treating this cancer naturally, I cannot afford the daily and constant immunosuppression that comes with Delta and MU opiate receptor agnonists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6524811 So instead I take the following but not all substances daily. Some I use to take tolerance breaks from the others. All are legally available online as of tonight. Kratom Yellow Horned Poppy extract Myrrh terpene faction isolates Kavalactone from kava Lactucarium from personally wildcrafted and processed wild lettuce. White willow bark Blue Lotus extract meditation prickly poppy extract american and mexican oriental poppy extract red poppy petal extract curcumin and ginger extracts Holy Basil oil Oil of Oregano Will any of these put you down like sister morphene? No. Can I get by on these instead of 60 mg of Dr prescribed Hydrocodone a day? Yes. In fact I have less pain after switching. Many also have some little investigated anti cancer effects and several are immuno-stimulant so they are an active part of my fight and not two steps back. Hope someone in need sees this. I looked some of these up, kratom is highly addictive. Is this so, or are these people just trying to keep us away from the natural cures? Thanks...I do not know much about this but want to find out as much as possible. Live and let live, for we all have our own lessons to learn. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13385958 United States 01/26/2013 03:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not good for the many people who have chronic pain and those who have surgeries and acute pain from various conditions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32299721 I used to get bad migraines, and I used to take percocet (hydrocodone) for them. Thank God I don't get them anymore (I'm old) because they will no longer prescribe that medication. I had a friend who had knee surgery, and they sent him home with vicodin which doesn't really work that well. So now they want to limit vicodin too. This is getting out of hand, yes there are people who abuse medications but there are millions who have valid reasons to take them and they should not be denied pain relief. I suspect this had a lot more to do with control and domination of the population rather than trying to help curb drug abuse. I'm seriously thinking of retiring outside of the US so I can have decent medical care in my old age, but our current government has decided to tax 30% of the money taken out of the US. I do think they want us to suffer. I'm not sure why, but they do. I agree with this. I was thinking exactly the same thing. They do want us to suffer and then break down and commit crime against one another. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32299721 United States 01/26/2013 04:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been reading up on kratom and it's claimed it's not really addictive, it's a leaf from a tree and it's been used in SE Asia for thousands of years. People there chew the leaves, it gives a bit of energy and lifts the mood and gets rid of pain from what I'm reading. I'm looking into it so in case a pain killer is needed perhaps this could work. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13385958 United States 01/26/2013 04:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been reading up on kratom and it's claimed it's not really addictive, it's a leaf from a tree and it's been used in SE Asia for thousands of years. People there chew the leaves, it gives a bit of energy and lifts the mood and gets rid of pain from what I'm reading. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32299721 I'm looking into it so in case a pain killer is needed perhaps this could work. How would you get it. Is it a legal herb on the market. I use valerian, St.Johns wort, skullcap pain and depression, they do help alot. |
pi User ID: 20063747 Canada 01/26/2013 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been reading up on kratom and it's claimed it's not really addictive, it's a leaf from a tree and it's been used in SE Asia for thousands of years. People there chew the leaves, it gives a bit of energy and lifts the mood and gets rid of pain from what I'm reading. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32299721 I'm looking into it so in case a pain killer is needed perhaps this could work. It is still an opioid drug containing material. It can and will cause dependence to develop. At small "stimulant" doses as you have mentioned, the dependence liability is small, but present. It would probably be not dissimilar to a coca leaf addiction. Do it everyday, stop and feel "off" type deal. :) |
pi User ID: 20063747 Canada 01/26/2013 04:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been reading up on kratom and it's claimed it's not really addictive, it's a leaf from a tree and it's been used in SE Asia for thousands of years. People there chew the leaves, it gives a bit of energy and lifts the mood and gets rid of pain from what I'm reading. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32299721 I'm looking into it so in case a pain killer is needed perhaps this could work. How would you get it. Is it a legal herb on the market. I use valerian, St.Johns wort, skullcap pain and depression, they do help alot. Yes kratom is legal. Google it. :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32299721 United States 01/26/2013 04:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not good for the many people who have chronic pain and those who have surgeries and acute pain from various conditions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32299721 I used to get bad migraines, and I used to take percocet (hydrocodone) for them. Thank God I don't get them anymore (I'm old) because they will no longer prescribe that medication. I had a friend who had knee surgery, and they sent him home with vicodin which doesn't really work that well. So now they want to limit vicodin too. This is getting out of hand, yes there are people who abuse medications but there are millions who have valid reasons to take them and they should not be denied pain relief. I suspect this had a lot more to do with control and domination of the population rather than trying to help curb drug abuse. I'm seriously thinking of retiring outside of the US so I can have decent medical care in my old age, but our current government has decided to tax 30% of the money taken out of the US. I do think they want us to suffer. I'm not sure why, but they do. I agree with this. I was thinking exactly the same thing. They do want us to suffer and then break down and commit crime against one another. What's interesting too is we rarely see any public service ads telling us to be careful with alcohol. I don't even see as many drunk driving ads as I used to if any. It's strange because alcohol is so damaging mentally, physically and socially, many people go nuts and lose it while drinking. They get into fights, they have sex with people they shouldn't be having sex with, it leads to all sorts of bad destructive behavior and it causes so much illness to the body and the mind and society. They talk about the health costs associated with cigarettes, and they have succeeded in getting most people to quit smoking, yet not a word is said about the damaging effects of alcohol. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33048179 United States 01/26/2013 04:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gotta love our Government. Screwing us over left and right, taking away our rights one by one, and now they're "worried" about our prescription drug use? Yeah, sure. Thanks for the concern! I don't buy it! They are always coming up with some new way to control us "for our own good"! GTFO! |
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Sarah Conner User ID: 1513903 United States 01/26/2013 06:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com] It's all about marketing and profiteering on the suffering of the serfs of the "service" economy. Thank you for the info on alternative remedies for pain. I will investigate. |
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lupa14714 User ID: 23350068 United Kingdom 01/26/2013 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know several people with chronic pain and they already have problems getting drugs for their legitimate problems, meanwhile I know addicts who can easily get these drugs. More laws will only harm those who legitimately need the drugs and will only further expand the black market as patients turn to the streets to treat their chronic pain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25898128 that's exactly what's happening here,i cannot get one single valium for my epilepsy( i'm highly allergic to the epilim they put me on,got photos of what 3 days of it did to me,then dr wanted x5 my dose!)so i cannot have the legitimate drug for it too,valium.i'm scrwed. church of euthanasia. [link to www.facebook.com] have just left my paranormal photos on,as I,m leaving soon.some you have to see whole picture,as clipped. |
lupa14714 User ID: 23350068 United Kingdom 01/26/2013 06:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh,forgot to say i have to buy it illegally off all the junkys getting huge scripts for tamazepam,dihydrocodien,methadone diazepan,df118's diconal etc etc.drs give em loads they the sell for cash for heroin church of euthanasia. [link to www.facebook.com] have just left my paranormal photos on,as I,m leaving soon.some you have to see whole picture,as clipped. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25042174 Japan 01/26/2013 07:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My husband is in terrible pain at times, but cannot get prescriptions needed. He gets a watered down version that does not work, or a small amount of pills for a longer length of time. Quoting: tiger1 FTR, he needs a knee replacement(both), and surgery on both shoulders. His left leg swells the worst, even when he does nothing but sit. The left hip was broken in 3 places, and the doctors let it heal that way. He has had several surgeries, but they have all failed or had limited success. Cut off arms and legs, problem solved. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32299721 United States 01/26/2013 07:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My husband is in terrible pain at times, but cannot get prescriptions needed. He gets a watered down version that does not work, or a small amount of pills for a longer length of time. Quoting: tiger1 FTR, he needs a knee replacement(both), and surgery on both shoulders. His left leg swells the worst, even when he does nothing but sit. The left hip was broken in 3 places, and the doctors let it heal that way. He has had several surgeries, but they have all failed or had limited success. Cut off arms and legs, problem solved. Go away pest. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32707506 United States 01/26/2013 07:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My husband is in terrible pain at times, but cannot get prescriptions needed. He gets a watered down version that does not work, or a small amount of pills for a longer length of time. Quoting: tiger1 FTR, he needs a knee replacement(both), and surgery on both shoulders. His left leg swells the worst, even when he does nothing but sit. The left hip was broken in 3 places, and the doctors let it heal that way. He has had several surgeries, but they have all failed or had limited success. Why can't the doctors who made this decision see the harm they are going to cause ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32707506 United States 01/26/2013 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My husband is in terrible pain at times, but cannot get prescriptions needed. He gets a watered down version that does not work, or a small amount of pills for a longer length of time. Quoting: tiger1 FTR, he needs a knee replacement(both), and surgery on both shoulders. His left leg swells the worst, even when he does nothing but sit. The left hip was broken in 3 places, and the doctors let it heal that way. He has had several surgeries, but they have all failed or had limited success. Cut off arms and legs, problem solved. Why don't you go and drink some of the Fukushima tonic water, crappantz |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33054935 United States 01/26/2013 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ask yourself, why is your benevolent government so hell bent on stopping painkillers on the basis of the plausible lie that they are protecting health but are quite happy to let people drink alcohol until they pass out, eat GMOs, consume nano-particles, breath poisoned air and indeed to put sodium fluoride in drinking water, to name but a small sample of things that are not considered dire public health sins but are linked to some of the most horrific illnesses ever known to humankind, not to mention posing a danger to others, as is the case with alcohol? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23554071 I always just considered that they were incredibly stupid, but that doesn't seem to cover it all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31194169 Canada 01/26/2013 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not good for the many people who have chronic pain and those who have surgeries and acute pain from various conditions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32299721 I used to get bad migraines, and I used to take percocet (hydrocodone) for them. Thank God I don't get them anymore (I'm old) because they will no longer prescribe that medication. I had a friend who had knee surgery, and they sent him home with vicodin which doesn't really work that well. So now they want to limit vicodin too. This is getting out of hand, yes there are people who abuse medications but there are millions who have valid reasons to take them and they should not be denied pain relief. I suspect this had a lot more to do with control and domination of the population rather than trying to help curb drug abuse. I'm seriously thinking of retiring outside of the US so I can have decent medical care in my old age, but our current government has decided to tax 30% of the money taken out of the US.I do think they want us to suffer. I'm not sure why, but they do. You obviously don't have any lawyer or politician friends. |
lupa14714 User ID: 23350068 United Kingdom 01/26/2013 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ask yourself, why is your benevolent government so hell bent on stopping painkillers on the basis of the plausible lie that they are protecting health but are quite happy to let people drink alcohol until they pass out, eat GMOs, consume nano-particles, breath poisoned air and indeed to put sodium fluoride in drinking water, to name but a small sample of things that are not considered dire public health sins but are linked to some of the most horrific illnesses ever known to humankind, not to mention posing a danger to others, as is the case with alcohol? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23554071 I always just considered that they were incredibly stupid, but that doesn't seem to cover it all. it does seem the most logical reason,people i know now in college,uni.cannot understand subject being taught,but get all the test answers wanted off web to get degree.i remember years back,news story,posh uni guy selling exams to be taken,so just gotta be sneaky for half of them,or rich. church of euthanasia. [link to www.facebook.com] have just left my paranormal photos on,as I,m leaving soon.some you have to see whole picture,as clipped. |
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natasha77 User ID: 32834078 United States 01/26/2013 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One pill is not enough for extreme pain. Two pills make me very nauscious. I took oxy once and my pain got worse. Still, this isn't right. It does benefit most and WTH are they doing taking over the meds??? SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY! I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28185728 United States 01/26/2013 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ucsf.edu] Politicians are disgusting. If they cared one bit about people in pain they would legalize cannabis to address this overuse of opiates in America. Cannabis can augment effects of opiates, leading to less equal pain relief with a drop in level of opiate intake. Yet remains a Schedule 1 controlled substance. The FDA is the legal department for Monsanto, Phizer, Eli Lilly and the heroin production industry in Afghanistan. Inflicting opiate dependance on a nation is an old trick to pacify a population while trying to conquer them economically. (see opium wars) Soon the numbers will show that more people are checking into rehab for opiate dependance than alcoholism. Cognitive dissonance is starting to rot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17851333 United States 01/26/2013 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The danger of Vicodin is that it combines an opioid with acetaminophen. My husband was addicted to Vicodin, big time. He also had a drinking problem. That spelled disaster for him. Quoting: KoFFee_ Eventually, all the drugs and alcohol destroyed his liver, just as I suspected it would. He had no problem getting multiple prescriptions from the doctors in this area. And if he ran out, or couldn't get them from me(I hid his pills on him), he would get them from his friends. Yes, they love those pills, many people do. They make me nauseated and I can't take them, so I can't understand why so many want to take them all the time. I guess they feel good where they make me feel sick. Good for me. |
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