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ParanoiaGirl
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I just found an article at the Daily Beast -
[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

Found it interesting that Adam Lanza had a girlfriend, who of course is missing. He also had a friend, who of course is missing.

But the important thing, he also killed someone in Hoboken...

"News organizations are trying to be as responsible as possible while still providing details of the tragedy. The narrative being pieced together is that Adam Lanza, who is from Newtown, traveled to a family home in Hoboken, N.J., yesterday, and killed at least one person there before going back to Connecticut. It is believed that one victim is Lanza’s father. Lanza’s girlfriend and a friend are reported missing in New Jersey."

Why did they report that he killed someone in Hoboken and what happened to this person? Apparently it isn't his father as Peter Lanza was suppose to have picked up his son's body recently.

I would like to know how the media mistakenly reported a murder. Don't you have to have a body? Also, who is the missing girlfriend? This is important because at this point she is the only one that could describe Adam Lanza.

The police...
"An unnamed police officer told a Fox reporter that Lanza had a “checkered past” and had been a “troubled youth for most of his life,” but would not elaborate because juvenile records are kept confidential."

He was a problem for most of his life but no one remembers him?

There are more articles saying that Adam had committed murder in NJ, (this one is actually talking about how Ryan was confused for Adam), like the one from the Newtown Patch...

"The reports said Lanza, a 24-year-old Quinnipiac University graduate, had murdered someone in his Hoboken apartment and then drove to Newtown, Conn., where he used a .223 caliber rifle to kill 27 people before turning the gun on himself."

Wy was the media so quick to say Adam/Ryan murdered someone in New Jersey and where or where did that body go? wtf
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I guess his dad knows way too much, at GE Fin., that is. Just as that other fellows' dad is to FICA.
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23,000 new homes sales, Nationwide? Youch.
reminds me of:

"In mine ears [said] the LORD of hosts, Of a truth many houses shall be desolate, [even] great and fair, without inhabitant."

Isaiah 5:9
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Thank you OP for reminding people about this event/non-event
published by the media.

How could they get away with saying a body was found in
Ryan's Hoboken, NJ apartment along with quotes from neighbors and then have it just fade away?

Even going so far as to name the body that of Peter Lanza.
A few even went so far as to tell a tale of how "Adam" Lanza travelled there to kill him the day before when the
suspect changed from Ryan to Adam.
The story of Dad being dead in the apartment remained.

Where is Peter Lanza and has he given an interview?
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Thank you OP for reminding people about this event/non-event
published by the media.

How could they get away with saying a body was found in
Ryan's Hoboken, NJ apartment along with quotes from neighbors and then have it just fade away?

Even going so far as to name the body that of Peter Lanza.
A few even went so far as to tell a tale of how "Adam" Lanza travelled there to kill him the day before when the
suspect changed from Ryan to Adam.
The story of Dad being dead in the apartment remained.

Where is Peter Lanza and has he given an interview?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838



You don't often hear that someone was killed and then, oooops, never mind. They had a full story and something messed up the story that suppose to be released.

I think that Peter Lanza, or his wife, had something on them and they were going to frame Ryan and then Peter destroyed the evidence or decided to "behave" he did something and they then made up Adam to take the fall because Peter was working with them.

The only thing worse than being murdered is having your love ones murdered. I believe THEY killed Nancy Lanza and told Peter if he doesn't do what they say, what they want, Ryan was next. This was ALL about Peter Lanza and what he knows.
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Scott Vollmer lives in Hoboken, NJ, about a mile and a half away from Ryan Lanza.

Vollmer is the *son of a Sandy Hook Elementary School kindergarten teacher*. Does that phrase ring a bell?

Mr. Vollmer is the director of catering and *special event planner* for one Michael Bloomberg. Does that name ring a bell? Does it ring it again when you consider who the first major politician was to start speaking out against guns after the Sandy Hook incident?

Mr. Vollmer's mom, the teacher, had the presence of mind to bring reading material into the closet (or bathroom) to entertain her students while the school was locked down. They all remained safe.
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Thank you OP for reminding people about this event/non-event
published by the media.

How could they get away with saying a body was found in
Ryan's Hoboken, NJ apartment along with quotes from neighbors and then have it just fade away?

Even going so far as to name the body that of Peter Lanza.
A few even went so far as to tell a tale of how "Adam" Lanza travelled there to kill him the day before when the
suspect changed from Ryan to Adam.
The story of Dad being dead in the apartment remained.

Where is Peter Lanza and has he given an interview?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838



You don't often hear that someone was killed and then, oooops, never mind. They had a full story and something messed up the story that suppose to be released.

I think that Peter Lanza, or his wife, had something on them and they were going to frame Ryan and then Peter destroyed the evidence or decided to "behave" he did something and they then made up Adam to take the fall because Peter was working with them.

The only thing worse than being murdered is having your love ones murdered. I believe THEY killed Nancy Lanza and told Peter if he doesn't do what they say, what they want, Ryan was next. This was ALL about Peter Lanza and what he knows.
 Quoting: ParanoiaGirl 32926269


I think something along those lines, too.
I called it showing them the Ghost of Christmas future.
If they didn't go along then Peter would be found dead
in Ryan's apartment and Ryan framed for killing him and
a whole bunch of school kids.
Ryan gets picked up and taken "somewhere" and magically the story changes to a fictitious version of Ryan named "Adam".
The supposed subject named in all cop drill scenarios.

It is further disturbing that the scenario in the mirror drill held that day was a story of two school shooters who enter the building to kill their mother who was a teacher there.

It seemed to be about blackmail.
And about second amendment.

Just like 9/11 there is never just one mission or objective
to be obtained.
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Scott Vollmer lives in Hoboken, NJ, about a mile and a half away from Ryan Lanza.

Vollmer is the *son of a Sandy Hook Elementary School kindergarten teacher*. Does that phrase ring a bell?

Mr. Vollmer is the director of catering and *special event planner* for one Michael Bloomberg. Does that name ring a bell? Does it ring it again when you consider who the first major politician was to start speaking out against guns after the Sandy Hook incident?

Mr. Vollmer's mom, the teacher, had the presence of mind to bring reading material into the closet (or bathroom) to entertain her students while the school was locked down. They all remained safe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32284139


Scott Vollmer could very well have been ONE of the guys crawling the hall that day - I am not disagreeing with that. I personally don't think there is anyone dead except for Nancy Lanza.

I think this was all preplanned and not very well planned but Scott Vollmer would be someone to keep their mouth shut and be able to ENTER the school with little or no problem. AND he did have a reason of course.

Do you think it's possible the the NJ death may have been announced as an "alabi" for Scott if he was caught?
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Do you think it's possible the the NJ death may have been announced as an "alabi" for Scott if he was caught?
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I think it gives them a reason to drop Ryan Lanza's name into the case...I don't think Vollmer's identity was supposed to come out at all, under any circumstances.
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Do you think it's possible the the NJ death may have been announced as an "alabi" for Scott if he was caught?
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I think it gives them a reason to drop Ryan Lanza's name into the case...I don't think Vollmer's identity was supposed to come out at all, under any circumstances.
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Do you think someone was murdered in NJ and maybe Scott Vollmer murdered them OR do you think the NJ thing was sort of like an obvious trail leading to the real suspect? Has Vollmer addressed any of this?
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Do you think someone was murdered in NJ and maybe Scott Vollmer murdered them OR do you think the NJ thing was sort of like an obvious trail leading to the real suspect? Has Vollmer addressed any of this?
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I doubt there was any related murder in NJ, just as I don't think there's any missing girlfriend.

I don't think Vollmer has even been mentioned by name in the media, let alone been interviewed.
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I have identified the people in the pictures we are being shown that represent Adam, Ryan, and Nancy Lanza as other people 100%
Face measurements, dental 100%

So my question is did this family exist?
If they did, were they murdered, and how can we
Get to the bottom of who was murdered in Nj?
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Do you think someone was murdered in NJ and maybe Scott Vollmer murdered them OR do you think the NJ thing was sort of like an obvious trail leading to the real suspect? Has Vollmer addressed any of this?
 Quoting: ParanoiaGirl 32926269


I doubt there was any related murder in NJ, just as I don't think there's any missing girlfriend.

I don't think Vollmer has even been mentioned by name in the media, let alone been interviewed.
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I remember reading one of your other posts about this and I guess not many are seeing the likelyhood of Vollmer. There is just so much wrong with this whole Sandy Hook stuff that it is hard to stay on one subject.

I see it is possible and I believe he would be a great subject considering who he already works for and it is strange that his mom works at the school.

Good luck in promoting this as many are too busy pointing out shills and non-shills. A lot of the threads are loaded with people claiming the other is lying. I think they do protest too much.
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I agree about the dis info but I for one believe it is a higher priority to nail these people portraying themselves as victims.

I mean come on poster these damn people are making millions of this tragedy and have connections , no relations, to the very people who do not even hide the fact instead openly admit they are involved in transforming and taking over the United States. Wtf? Are you a shill?
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Thank you OP for reminding people about this event/non-event
published by the media.

How could they get away with saying a body was found in
Ryan's Hoboken, NJ apartment along with quotes from neighbors and then have it just fade away?

Even going so far as to name the body that of Peter Lanza.
A few even went so far as to tell a tale of how "Adam" Lanza travelled there to kill him the day before when the
suspect changed from Ryan to Adam.
The story of Dad being dead in the apartment remained.

Where is Peter Lanza and has he given an interview?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838



You don't often hear that someone was killed and then, oooops, never mind. They had a full story and something messed up the story that suppose to be released.

I think that Peter Lanza, or his wife, had something on them and they were going to frame Ryan and then Peter destroyed the evidence or decided to "behave" he did something and they then made up Adam to take the fall because Peter was working with them.

The only thing worse than being murdered is having your love ones murdered. I believe THEY killed Nancy Lanza and told Peter if he doesn't do what they say, what they want, Ryan was next. This was ALL about Peter Lanza and what he knows.
 Quoting: ParanoiaGirl 32926269


That makes so much sense, it's scary. I believe that as well.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Scott Vollmer lives in Hoboken, NJ, about a mile and a half away from Ryan Lanza.

Vollmer is the *son of a Sandy Hook Elementary School kindergarten teacher*. Does that phrase ring a bell?

Mr. Vollmer is the director of catering and *special event planner* for one Michael Bloomberg. Does that name ring a bell? Does it ring it again when you consider who the first major politician was to start speaking out against guns after the Sandy Hook incident?

Mr. Vollmer's mom, the teacher, had the presence of mind to bring reading material into the closet (or bathroom) to entertain her students while the school was locked down. They all remained safe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32284139


Scott Vollmer could very well have been ONE of the guys crawling the hall that day - I am not disagreeing with that. I personally don't think there is anyone dead except for Nancy Lanza.

I think this was all preplanned and not very well planned but Scott Vollmer would be someone to keep their mouth shut and be able to ENTER the school with little or no problem. AND he did have a reason of course.

Do you think it's possible the the NJ death may have been announced as an "alabi" for Scott if he was caught?
 Quoting: ParanoiaGirl 32926269


Wow! Hadn't heard of Scott Vollmer before. Just keeps piling up, doesn't it?
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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If Scott Volmer had a role in this, it was very likely as an "event" coordinator.
I mean, after all, that is his job description.
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I just found an article at the Daily Beast -
[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

Found it interesting that Adam Lanza had a girlfriend, who of course is missing. He also had a friend, who of course is missing.

But the important thing, he also killed someone in Hoboken...

"News organizations are trying to be as responsible as possible while still providing details of the tragedy. The narrative being pieced together is that Adam Lanza, who is from Newtown, traveled to a family home in Hoboken, N.J., yesterday, and killed at least one person there before going back to Connecticut. It is believed that one victim is Lanza’s father. Lanza’s girlfriend and a friend are reported missing in New Jersey."

Why did they report that he killed someone in Hoboken and what happened to this person? Apparently it isn't his father as Peter Lanza was suppose to have picked up his son's body recently.

I would like to know how the media mistakenly reported a murder. Don't you have to have a body? Also, who is the missing girlfriend? This is important because at this point she is the only one that could describe Adam Lanza.

The police...
"An unnamed police officer told a Fox reporter that Lanza had a “checkered past” and had been a “troubled youth for most of his life,” but would not elaborate because juvenile records are kept confidential."

He was a problem for most of his life but no one remembers him?

There are more articles saying that Adam had committed murder in NJ, (this one is actually talking about how Ryan was confused for Adam), like the one from the Newtown Patch...

"The reports said Lanza, a 24-year-old Quinnipiac University graduate, had murdered someone in his Hoboken apartment and then drove to Newtown, Conn., where he used a .223 caliber rifle to kill 27 people before turning the gun on himself."

Wy was the media so quick to say Adam/Ryan murdered someone in New Jersey and where or where did that body go? wtf
 Quoting: ParanoiaGirl 32926269


Do you remember the first interview with Marsha Lanza? The one where she was standing outside her front door? I know at the beginning of that interview she stated that at first they were told that Peter and Ryan were also dead. The thought the whole family had been murdered. She even used a family nickname they had for Peter. Now, all the only versions of that video I can find have that part edited out. I know someone on GLP must have an original copy
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Do you remember the first interview with Marsha Lanza? The one where she was standing outside her front door? I know at the beginning of that interview she stated that at first they were told that Peter and Ryan were also dead. The thought the whole family had been murdered. She even used a family nickname they had for Peter. Now, all the only versions of that video I can find have that part edited out. I know someone on GLP must have an original copy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402512


I unfortunately didn't pay much attention to the interview at the time. But who called her and told her that the family was murdered? Why would any police officer notify the next of kin without actually seeing bodies?

"Hello Ms. Lanza, don't freak out but we think your family is dead. We don't have proof or any real reason to think this, but you know, it could be possible."
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Do you remember the first interview with Marsha Lanza? The one where she was standing outside her front door? I know at the beginning of that interview she stated that at first they were told that Peter and Ryan were also dead. The thought the whole family had been murdered. She even used a family nickname they had for Peter. Now, all the only versions of that video I can find have that part edited out. I know someone on GLP must have an original copy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402512


I unfortunately didn't pay much attention to the interview at the time. But who called her and told her that the family was murdered? Why would any police officer notify the next of kin without actually seeing bodies?

"Hello Ms. Lanza, don't freak out but we think your family is dead. We don't have proof or any real reason to think this, but you know, it could be possible."
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She found out through the media. She said the media stated Peter and Ryan had been murdered. I guess I should have been a little clearer on that. She was interviewed on her front doorstep.
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Why does everyone keep ignoring this?

Here is what I found in a “People Search”
Adam Lanza
New Haven, CT
Lives with:
Kathy Lanza

Kathy Lanza
New Haven, CT
Lives with:
Cathy Lanza
Adam Lanza

I did a four hour search on Nancy and there was never anyone by the name of Adam Lanza living with her.

How much you want to bet Adam Lanza moves into Nancy’s house with Kathy and Cathy?
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Why does everyone keep ignoring this?

Here is what I found in a “People Search”
Adam Lanza
New Haven, CT
Lives with:
Kathy Lanza

Kathy Lanza
New Haven, CT
Lives with:
Cathy Lanza
Adam Lanza

I did a four hour search on Nancy and there was never anyone by the name of Adam Lanza living with her.

How much you want to bet Adam Lanza moves into Nancy’s house with Kathy and Cathy?
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Well that would explain the missing girlfriend and friend cool2

Yeah, I don't think Adam ever existed considering that half the people said they didn't know him, the cops said he was basically a teen criminal and his aunt said he was a bright boy that was homeschooled. Of course, his father didn't pick him up from the morgue till days later and his mom's obit never mentioned him.
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It is further disturbing that the scenario in the mirror drill held that day was a story of two school shooters who enter the building to kill their mother who was a teacher there.
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Link???
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Why does everyone keep ignoring this?

Here is what I found in a “People Search”
Adam Lanza
New Haven, CT
Lives with:
Kathy Lanza

Kathy Lanza
New Haven, CT
Lives with:
Cathy Lanza
Adam Lanza

I did a four hour search on Nancy and there was never anyone by the name of Adam Lanza living with her.

How much you want to bet Adam Lanza moves into Nancy’s house with Kathy and Cathy?
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Those are wrong a lot. My own info is all wrong.
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I am wondering has anyone found out who the car was registered to? At first we were told it was his moms car and others thought it was Rodia's car then they released it was not registered to Nancy or Adam but to a family friend. So I am just curious who that would be and how (this supposed) Adam got the car?
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I would like to know how the media mistakenly reported a murder. Don't you have to have a body?
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No, the media doesn't "have to have a body" to report something.

They reported a number of rumors during the initial part of this story that turned out to be false.

They screwed up.
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Isn't that Standard Operating Procedure to boost you "crime solved" statistics.

Find a Dead Guy, and blame it on HIM.

Fabricate enough evidence and point it in the direction of the DEAD GUY.

You get to solve your case easily, you get an "outstanding performance" review, the Dead Guy isnt going to talk, you can go back to hanging out at the Strip Club and the Doughnut Shop?
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I would like to know how the media mistakenly reported a murder. Don't you have to have a body?
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No, the media doesn't "have to have a body" to report something.

They reported a number of rumors during the initial part of this story that turned out to be false.

They screwed up.
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Those were not rumors, those were lies.
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I would like to know how the media mistakenly reported a murder. Don't you have to have a body?
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No, the media doesn't "have to have a body" to report something.

They reported a number of rumors during the initial part of this story that turned out to be false.

They screwed up.
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Those were not rumors, those were lies.
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Yes the media was doing a lot of lying. As far as the rumors - where were they coming from, the police? Obviously the news received a "credible source". What makes the National Enquirer different from the local news channels? We know it's all fake - why isn't the NE considered real?
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